Lagna/10th House Lord Jupiter in 8th House

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Hello,
My DOB is 1.6.1982.
Time: 00.55 am
Place: Kolkata
Can someone analyze my career prospects. I give details of my D1 and D10 charts below

D1
Pisces: (Lagna) no planets
Aries: Venus
Taurus: Sun (vargottam in D9)+ Retrogarde Mercury
Gemini: Rahu
Cancer: no planets
Leo: no planets
Virgo: R Saturn+moon+Mars
Libra: R Jupiter
Scorpio: no Planets
Sagi: Ketu
Capri: no planets
Aquarius: no planets

In my D10 chart I have Sagitarius Lagna with Saturn Jupiter and Rahu in the house. I have Sun Venus Mercury and Ketu in Gemini and Moon and Mars in Leo

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In my D1 or lagna chart the 10th house lord is not Mercury but Jupiter
The 10th house lord Jupiter in the 8th must have pushed me in the area of research because the 8th signifies hidden knowledge. Dear Sandeep can you please explain to me what made you interpret my planetary positions as conducive to interior designing.
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hello auro,

I had a broad look at your chart. Please give me feedback regarding these points. Your education is related to enineering. Looks like it was not smooth - u must have experienced no help from any quarter, breaks etc. If u can provide me feedback on these points i will be able to proceed further.

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Dear Pink1
Thank you for your efforts but I am afraid they are not quite accurate. I have been a student of Humanities (English literature) and have completed my MPhil and am on my way to do my PhD in the field of Indian English literature. My education career apart from a very few and insignificant glitches in my early years in school has been exceptionally smooth. This is because I had been among the best students in my batch. I had topped in my College and was among the first three in my University exams. My MPhil too has fetched me first class marks.
I didn't intend to brag but I am just trying to give you enough informations so that you can match it with my chart details.

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Dear all,
While analyzing a chart these are some of the indications I find useful in understanding the education sector of a native. I would much appreciate your comments.
The bhavas that need to be looked at carefully while judging the sector of education are 4th and 5th house and for understanding the scope of higher education the 9th house.
The important planets to be considered while analyzing basic education in the chart are the 4th and 5th house lord, Jupiter and Mercury. (and of course the planets placed in these houses.
If all these grahas and bhavas are strong the native will not only be intelligent but also learned and show a remarkable progress in education.
Now for some rule of thumbs (Here I am taking up the field of Mathematics)
1.If Jupiter is powerful in kendra or trikon and Mercury is in second house and Venus is exalted then the native will be a great mathematician.
2. If Mars is in the second house aspected or joined by a benefic then the native will be a mathematician.
3.If Moon is joined by Mars and sits in a kendra and is aspected by Mercury the native will be a mathematician.
4. If a powerful Mercury is joined by the lord of 8th house and Jupiter is in Lagna and Shani in the 8th then the native will be a great mathematician.

If Mars, Mercury and Saturn are powerful and are situated in the kendra or trikon from lagna it shows that the native has a potential to be a great engineer.

If Venus Mercury and Moon are powerful and located in the kendra or trikon then there is a strong chance of the native moving into the field of medicine. If Mars is associated it shows a potentiality towards being a surgeon.

From my own personal chart and my career as a research scholar I see that if your lagna lord (Jupiter in my case) is placed in 8th house you develop a potential towards research work.

These are some rules of thumb....they are preliminary....and I would like your comments. Please add any other sutras if you can. I havent dealt with the 9th house here but seek to do it in a seperate post.

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Hello Auro,

Thank u for the inputs. If i am right, currently u r under rahu dasa (lahiri ayanamsa). It does not have the touch of eighth house for research. As far i know, a dasa shoul also indicate the event. Another point is, i have come across some charts with lagna lord in the eighth house but they are not in to research. Kindly give me some more inputs.

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Dear Pink1
Your post has two aspects first about the Rahu dasa and second about 8th house and research. I'll try and address them seperately.....they are my personal observations and so I would very much like your comments on it.
You are quite right in saying that I am running the rahu dasa. In fact I am under Ketu antar dasa in Rahu Mahadasa which will continue till 18/9/09. The Rahu Mahadasa had set on from 2/3/99. Rahu usually marks expansion. In my case the expansion and broadening of horizon had taken place in the field of education (Rahu you will notice is in my 4th house which is also related with education). Moreover my Rahu and Ketu are forming a raj yoga (they are sitting in Kendra and aspected by the lord of trines). Thus this period has been fruitful for me. Moreover Rahu is being aspected by the Jupiter sitting in my 8th house.
Now let us come to the career that Ketu has given to me. Ketu by itself is a planet of mystery and knowledge hidden in profound depths. It is sitting in the house of Jupiter, and Guru is a planet denoting knowledge and teaching. In my D10 chart I have Sagitarius Lagna and there Jupiter is sitting in the lagna strengthening the indications of study. My higher studies is also indicated by the fact that my 9th house lord Mars is sitting in kendra. I am engaged as a research fellow as also a guest lecturer in a college and am earning from research and teaching.
About my being a researcher....well you see when you say that you have seen charts with lagna lord sitting in the 8th and the fact that they are not into research it might be very true. Firstly to understand whether someone will undertake research numerous factors must be taken into account .....lagna lord being in the 8th is just one of the indications. 8th house signifies hidden knowledge and unexplored depths therefore in my case where the lagna and 10th house lord Jupiter sits in the 8th house it pretty much indicates research work. Add to this the positioning of the 9th house lord in Kendra.
I will just leave you with one more thought. Rahu indicates foreigness and in the Rahu dasa Ketu antardasa I am thinking of going abroad to do my PhD. Quest in that direction has so far proved to be rewarding.
Waiting for your reply
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Dear Auro,

I was born on May 25th 1982 in Hospet, Karanataka (Coordinates longitude 76 20 and latitude 15 16), India- 2.35 AM.

We share the same lagna-Pisces and but for the placement of moon and Venus the placement of other planets are exactly the same; So I was following this thread very closely. FYI, Moon is in 4th house along with Rahu and Venus is exalted in the first house.


Dear pink1,

I am one of those natives whose lagna lord is in 8th house but I am not into research. I am a programmer; Now most of the astrologers whom I talk to say this is not the right field of career for me? Is it correct? If so what field of career is best suited for me?In my current job I do not have any job satisfaction.

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hello rajath ji,

You are one destined to live abroad. The profession u are in is indicated by the planets in ur chart. Educational qualifications can not be improved more than what u possess now. Coming days are definitely better than the ones u have seen. Delay in marriage and in having children is for sure. You will get married in 34th year.

Regarding choosing career, people differ and debate the topic of fate and freewill. No one can convince the other. I do not know about other but i believe that we can not choose in matters of parentage, education, marriage etc. We can use freewill only to react to the circumstances and situtaions brought to us by planets.

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I use JHora and when i enter details about Auro's chart I get capricorn as a lagna.. I am not sure what i m missing ?

The date is 1st June 82.. right ? and the native is a male ?
Nitin21

Sorry about this. I had some settings problem. I get the pisces lagna now.. just wanted to confirm. You are a male, right Auro ?
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Dear Auro,

Your education is definitely related to history, politics and literary sciences. Your basic education had its own share of ups and downs but not denial.

Basically, our L-4 mercury should have given you studies in the fields related to numbers, but being 12th from itself and conjoined 6th lord sun, it did not. This leaves for Guru to be checked for success in education, Guru indicates literature related education and being a planet with strength(Chestabala) also aspecting your 4th house your studies puts strong influence in its matters. Same is the case with Saturn in from 7th house which influences philosophical matters since its 12th lord.

However, Jupiter being in 8th is not a good indication of learning for spiritual and religious matters. This is strengthened by your 9th mars being in 12th from Jupiter. But the pursuit is not outrightl rejected because 9th lord mars is also 11th from itself.

Your career in Teaching is strengthened by Jupiters aspect on 2nd and Venus being in 2nd house of speech. Venus is 3rd lord of communication and being in house of speech strengththens this ability. You have a clear, objective way of teaching and your tone is very subtle and polite. These indicate a successful career in the areas of communication with and amongst imparting of training. Add to facts above and you get the whole picture.

The bigger part is yet to happen. You will gain tremendous gains in foreign lands with regards to your higher form of degrees. And you will deifinitely do it. This is a fact from D-24 9th lord exalted in 12th house, aspected by your 7th lord Mars via 8th aspect and Saturns 10th aspect. Sun and Jupiter here with mutual aspects on 5th and 11th indicate that you will also achieve great fame with regards to your education. My only confusion is whether you will do it in your field i.e. literature related.

Your desire for studying more and more is also insatiable. Overall a very good chart from an education perspective apart from the Rahu factor in 4th. However, Good Rahu gets in the chart, it does not leave its maleficence completely. So you will have to watch for last minute problems in your education at all times.

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Careerwise, your D-1 10th lord is lagna lord in D-10 and also in lagna of d-10. This part of your chart is strong and revolves around lagna and 7th house only. It is highly indicated that you will do your work in foreign lands and that too a business eventually.

Good chart Auro from career and education perspective.

Have a great day.

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Dear Rajath
Let me please clarify this since its getting a bit embarassing for me now. Lagna/10th lord in the eighth house is not a sure indication that you will be a researcher. If I seem to have implied it in my earlier post it was definitely not my intention. What I meant was that lagna/10th lord being in 8th or any of the Moksha sthanas in the chart give a tendency towards probing deeper mysteries and hidden knowledge. Now whether or not you will be a researcher by profession or not cannot be simply judged by the placement of lagna/10th house lord in the 8th house. Numerous other factors are to be taken into account.....the planetary positions in the D charts for example. Astrosonu has given a quite thorough analysis of some of my own D charts which you can look up for academic purpose.

Wishing you all the success in life
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hello Auro,

After matching the events and excellence that you have achieved in education and ur current idea and issues related to foreign travel with the planets positions in ur chart, i think there seems to be an error in the birth time of about 5-10 minutes. After this correction, i get what all you said regarding the events. Thanks for the inputs regarding the events.

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Dear Auro,

You are very right in saying that the lagna lord in 8th clearly indicates research( occult, hidden, depths of knowledge) and also it makes you a miser. I also agree with astrosonu that " Careerwise, your D-1 10th lord is lagna lord in D-10 and also in lagna of d-10. This part of your chart is strong and revolves around lagna and 7th house only. It is highly indicated that you will do your work in foreign lands and that too a business eventually".

Apart from this let me add a few opinions of my analysis. The best planets for you careerwise and financial wise are JU, RA and ME and SU.Before proceeding however let us consider KE. In my opinion contrary to your opinion MA's aspect on KE is not good. Yes indeed nodes conj. a trinal lord is a rajyoga but reg. mere aspect of trinal lord; I'm not sure. Morever in my experience aspect of SA and MA no matter how well placed is always bad. Had it been some other benefic planet even then I would 've considered it . Further in my experience if RA is found to be giving good effects then KE is generally found otherwise and vice-versa. They 've usually complementary effects. In your case RA would always be a benefic not because simply of it's position but by virtue of JU's ASPECT!!

Further MA SA conj. is not good for pisces lagna and makes the period of MA a difficult one( not SA's which is placed in a friendly sign). MA is not very well placed in navamsa and dasamsa either. Moon is the last but least malefic planet for you. In d-1 it is afflicted by SA and in navamsa by RA( I've considered mean positions of nodes) and not well placed in dasamsa either as the 8th lord further afflicting MA.

So first pls send feedback -the last dasha of MA( 1992-1999) except for the benefic periods of JU, ME and SU would not have been very good. Besides the sub-periods of KE( Aug. 1996-Jan.1997) and that of moon( July 1998-Feb. 1999) would have also not fared good.

Reg. the good planet's I needn't elaborate I suppose as everybody has given the right analysis reg. them. JU as 1st/10th lord in 8th in natal is giving apart from research; wealth, longevity as well. As 10th lord in natal falling in mooltrkn navamsa JU is giving Rajyoga. It's giving wealth as it is aspecting the 2nd house in the natal and from moon lagna it is in 2nd house itself and from sun lagna RA is in 2nd again aspected by JU. In D-10 it is already excellently placed. So in fact the last RA-JU periods from Feb. 1999 til April 2004 must have been careerwise and financially beneficial to you. Pls send feedback.

ME and Sun are well placed in all d-1, d-9, d-10. I'm not sure of the present KE period that last till Sept. 2010 of being very good. Moreover this is your 2nd phase of Sade-Sati and that too with SA trasiting over natal SA and MA. In fact it should cause havoc. Maybe RA aspected by strong JU is protecting you from outright failure. Anyway the next MD of JU from 2017 would be a jackpot for you!!!!!

best of luck

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Dear Astrosonu

I had a question regarding your statement-"Basically, our L-4 mercury should have given you studies in the fields related to numbers, but being 12th from itself and conjoined 6th lord sun, it did not.This leaves for Guru to be checked for success in education, Guru indicates literature related education and being a planet with strength(Chestabala) also aspecting your 4th house your studies puts strong influence in its matters. Same is the case with Saturn in from 7th house which influences philosophical matters since its 12th lord.
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Even as a beginner in astrology I can totally understand that the conjunction of 4th lord ME with sixth lord SUN in third house (12th from 4th) did not give Auro ji education related to numbers/computers. I am failing to understand how it happened in my case; infact I also did MS in Computer Science. As such I had lots of interest in history and civics when I was in school but ultimately I was forced to take Engineering when the time came. Can you please explain to me what planetary configurations lead me in this path?

Also, I am in the IT field-a field indicated by Mercury(4th lord) but as mentioned above, it is in 3rd house (12th from 4th); Again it should not have given me a career in field related to numbers. Can you please explain to me what planetary configurations have lead me in this path?(To be very frank, I am facing dead ends in this field);

On the contrary since VE(3rd and 8th house lord ) is exalted in the first house, the stars should have led me into a career related to services like IAS in India or like management in the private sector; Again can you please explain to me what planetary configurations is preventing me from pursuing a career in the fileds mentioned above? Do you see any indications of the switch- from IT field to services sector- in my chart?

My birth details are as below:
May 25th 1982 in Hospet, Karanataka (Coordinates longitude 76 20 and latitude 15 16), India- 2.35 AM.

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Rajath,


First of all mercury is not related to computers. It is only related to mathematics and communications. The Technology field is attributed to Rahu and Saturn, that too mostly related to computers.

I think you are a mechanical engineer. Moon in 4th indicates this. This also means you have a great flair for poetry and artistic pursuits, but not as career. Moon and Venus are the difference between you and Auro in the D-1 chart. Venus in lagna and not in 2nd house of speech. Your strengths are your charismatic personality and good looks. You are a truth speaker too. But that additional advantage of Venus being in 2nd and getting directional strength is not there. So, you are not into Group counselling, speeches, training masses etc.


Secondly, your D-24 and Auros D-24 is different. Your D-24 has Saturn in 9th indicating technology related higher degree. And it is also in parivartan yoga with Jupiter in 11th. Good for gaining wisdom in technology related field for you in terms of education. Thats why you did MS Computers.

Your career is more so ascertained by Retro Saturn again in 10th, indicating a career in Technology. But you also have a jupiterian aspect like Auro in your charts. Hence you can do research in terms of technology, write white papers and come up with innovative ideas. Although jupiter and saturn are like always fighting to have a say in career matters (which is why you see a dead end) but it will not be. Both the planets are strong in your chart and will not let you have a dead end.

The problem is that mercury your karaka for intellect is placed in 6th and therefore afflicted in d-10.

Classic case of deeper analysis of similar looking D-1 charts via varga charts.

Hope this helps.

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Nice analysis sonu ji;thanks a ton for your insights; Your analysis wrt education and career is really impressive;I learnt a lot from your post;


However I do want to indicate that I am a Computer engineer.

Does JU's 5th aspect on VE(in D-24) or 9th aspect on MOON in D-24 give me education related to management?

Wrt to career honestly I do not feel like I have any inclination towards research but feel like I am more managerial by nature; may be due to exalted VE in 1st house. Do the stars indicate a switch over to services/management field?

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Hi Rajath,

What was your first graduation into ? Ur PG is MS Computers is what i know.

Your ability is more so in terms of teamwork and collaboration. Jupiters aspect on venus in 3rd house in d-24 means you can take up subjects of such nature for study. This eventually and practically builds capability for taking up a managerial position as this aspect is complemented by Sun in 11th house of goal achievements. You will also reap good fame in terms of education in your society.

Jupiter and moon in 5/9 axis in your d-24 is very good for attitude towards education. Although you do not have insatiable desire for education like Auro's chart, you do have a great approach towards getting yourself educated and you see a lot of value proposition in that aspect.

In summary Jupiter + Sun in 11th house in D-24 complements lots of goals that you want to achieve with regards to education and you will do that.

however the same support is not there in your D-10. Your career will be very good with minimal ups and downs and minimal change in jobs. Saturn and Jupiter both will give stability and discipline in 10th house. But will also make you work hard to achieve your goals. Things will not be coming easy. Your teamwork and collaboration related efforts will yield minimal fruits in your work environment with mercury and venus in 6th house. These are lords of 3rd and 4th house.

This leaves Sun, Jupiter and Saturn to do most of work. Jupiter and Saturn will give you authority like a management position etc but your execution plans at workplace will suffer owing to merc and venus in 6th as i mentioned before. However, you are sure to reap fame because of moon in own house in 5th. People will look upto you for solutions to their problems.

Jupiter does aspect your merc and venus in 6th, so its not that teamwork is outrightly rejected. But, as i said it does not come by default.

Money in career is not an issue for you.

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[quote="rajath25"]Nice analysis sonu ji;thanks a ton for your insights; Your analysis wrt education and career is really impressive;I learnt a lot from your post;


However I do want to indicate that I am a Computer engineer.

Does JU's 5th aspect on VE(in D-24) or 9th aspect on MOON in D-24 give me education related to management?

Wrt to career honestly I do not feel like I have any inclination towards research but feel like I am more managerial by nature; may be due to exalted VE in 1st house. Do the stars indicate a switch over to services/management field?

Warm regards
Rajath[/quote]
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Thanks again sonu ji,

FYI I did my bachelors in computer science;

From a very young age I have attached a lot of importance to education and it continues to this day; I have a lot of respect for educated people than for the rich. You are absolutely right on that front.

WRT MS in computers, looking back at dasha-antardasha periods, I finished my MS in May 2005 during JU dasha and Shani antardasha; This fits in perfectly with your explanation that the parivartana yoga between JU (9th house lord) and Shani (11th house lord) in D-24 is good for gaining wisdom in technology related field in terms of education.

You are also correct that I do not have insatiable desire for education but I just want to do MBA as the last part of formal education. Hence I was trying to know if MBA is indicated in my chart. Please dont get me wrong I shall ask you one more time- Do the stars indicate MBA education in my D-24 or D-1 chart?

You have indicated that both Jupiter and Saturn will give me authority like a management position but I am in the middle of JU dasha (8 years into it) I still remain a programmer; that may be due to weak placement of Jupiter in the natal chart, correct? Please confirm the same.

But 8th house lord VE exalted in natal chart should have led me into a career in the social services sector; I fail to understand why VE influence is not being felt wrt my career but instead SA that too in D-10 chart is deciding my career field. I guess D1 chart is the most important of all charts while predicting on any aspect of the individual.

And lastly can you please explain what planetary configuration indicate that "Money in career is not an issue for you. "

Eagerly looking forward to your reply.

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Rajath
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Hi Rajath,

Things will happen with time. As i mentioned Saturn will make you work hard to achieve your aims but will not deny. It will make you disciplined in your work.

Venus in your natal chart is not related to your career either by lordship or aspect. Hence you dont see those effects in your career.

Regarding programmer position etc. Things will only happen with time. So in your field if there is a criteria for a PM to have min say 10 years, it will come at right time for you. And as i said it will not be easy like you may see in your surroundings and compare yourself to others. But it will come. Mercury and Venus afflicted in your D-10 will create resistance too as i mentioned before, but will not deny you success as Jupiterian aspect is there.

MBA wise I dont see any issue. Since the planetary combinations support good, you just have to excercise your free-will. You will definitely not face any resistance in that matter.

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Sonu
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Thanks a ton sonu ji; your words are really reassuring.

FYI I just started VE antardasha in JU mahadasha in late november; Does it indicate a change in my career? If so when is it most likely to happen? OR should I continue with my current job?

And lastly can you please explain what planetary configuration indicate that "Money in career is not an issue for you. "

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Rajath
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For the next 2.5 years, just relax and have fun :) . You will get the best from your career and if not married you will get married. If married you will have a roller coaster ride ahead. Just be pious throughout this period. Whenever a good dasha runs, accumulate as much punya as you can by donating to the poor and needy. Charity is the best form of punya accumulation in Kali yuga. This will take care of you even during bad times.

Money is not an issue because you although you have jupiter in 8th, it aspects 2nd house of wealth in D-1. MArs the 2nd lord is also aspecting its own house by 8th aspect from 7th house in D-1. This is again confirmed by jupiters 5th aspect on 2nd house in D-10. Beware of debts though. Dont take heavy loans unless absolutely necessary.

If you really really want to lift yourself up in the career. Recite Shri Vishnu Sahasranama 108 times after bath. The whole cannot be recited 108 times every day as it is too big. But, there are a couple of lines, which are equivalent to the whole Sahasranama. Email me and I will send across to you the stotras. This will take care of your afflicted mercury and intellectually you will improve gradually over a period of time. Just recite this whole heartedly. You will be amazed to see the results.

If you do all this as i mentioned above, changes in career etc will automatically turn out to be positive for you.

Good luck.


[quote="rajath25"]Thanks a ton sonu ji; your words are really reassuring.

FYI I just started VE antardasha in JU mahadasha in late november; Does it indicate a change in my career? If so when is it most likely to happen? OR should I continue with my current job?

And lastly can you please explain what planetary configuration indicate that "Money in career is not an issue for you. "

Regards
Rajath[/quote]
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Dear Anand
It was great reading your analysis. Let me first get down to the feedbacks that you have asked for. During the period of Mars mahadasa I was in school and the year Mars MD ended also marked the year my class 10 exam results were published. The school I was studying only had uptill class 10 and then I moved on to anew school to do my class 11 and 12. I was not a smashingly bright students in my early classes and had difficulties with a few subjects but I was always good in English and Biology. However as I graduated to higher classes my grades started improving and I remember getting a sudden spurt of enthusiasm in my studies (though maths remained a nightmare). In the antardasa of Sun I believe. It was from my school days that I developped this almost mad desire to study hard. I remember putting in a lot of efforts.
However my next two years were the worst in terms of studies. The Rahu MD Rahu antardasa period till 2001. ((I am a bit confused as it should have given me good results especially if my Rahu is so excellent). It ended with my getting into college and it is from there that my educational career really took off.
About your Mars and Ketu prediction. I fully agree that Mars aspecting Ketu is not good but the bad effects have largely been felt in terms of my fathers health (I share excellent relations with him). He has had to undergo two open heart surgeries the first one in 1988 (my chandra MD and Mercury AD was running then) and a second one in 2000 (Rahu MD Rahu AD). Mars aspecting Ketu signifies accident operation and bloodshed but what I cant understand is why my father was undergoing surgeries in periods unconnected with my mars or Ketu dasa and antardasa.
However I am not very sure about the fact that if Rahu gives good results Ketu will give the reverse. Well u see if Rahu is exalted in a chart Ketu too will be exalted (as in my case) and even a natural malefic cannot be absolutely bad when exalted. About Mars. I agree with u that my Mars is not in too happy a position but I believe its position in Kendra must have warded off some of the bad influences. Otherwise as my 9th lord it is acting fine in terms of higher education.
You also referred to my second phase of Saturn sadesati. Well this has affected me on the relationship front (since my Moon is in my 7th in which Saturn is now transiting). However I am absolutely comfortable with Saturn's effect. It all depends upon the attitude. I believe Saturn as an agent of death and transformation can be tremendously refreshing and u come out a new man....a stronger man.
Let me know what u think.
Auro
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