French killer brothers

[adity]

Hi

Anybody has the data of the French killer brothers?

Regards

[howzat]

hello,

why not. now only I will gave you see.

kouchi brothers no? see - one fellow

7 September 1980 at 01:40 AM
Parisu 48 north 5219, 2 east 2127

another fellow

29 November 1982 at 22:20 10:20 PM
Place Parisu 48 north 5219, 2 east 2127

for you what? why you want this one?

[vedicmaths]

Hi adity

Birth data of the french killers:

Name : Kouachi, Chérif
born on 29 November 1982 at 22:20
Place Paris Arrondissement 10, France, 48n5219, 2e2127
Timezone MET h1e (is standard time)

Name : Kouachi, Saïd
born on 7 September 1980 at 01:40 (= 01:40 AM )
Place Paris Arrondissement 10, France, 48n5219, 2e2127
Timezone MEDT h2e (is daylight saving time)

On 9 January 2015, around 17:20, both were killed by the police

regards

vedicmaths

[vedicmaths]

Hi adity,

Though the analysis can be in the hind sight, is it possible to see the terrorism in these charts ?

regards

vedicmaths

[adity]

Dear Vedic and Howzat

Thank you for the data. I changed my computer and I am unable to download jhora. It keeps saying the archived zip file is invalid

Vedic i am sure we cannot look at the horoscope and say so and so is a terrorist or going to be a terrorist. However, I am sure one can find out to what extent a person can go to depending on the status of the 9th lord ,moon and the rest of the planets. How badly is the mind afflicted, what are the aspects on the moon, and the 9th lord. What is the status of Mars in the chart, does the person have enough courage to carry out a henious crime etc, aspects of rahu ketu on jupiter etc.

Howzat can you throw some light on the charts please. Meanwhile, I will try to keep downloading jhora

[howzat]

What to throw light madam. only darkness is there. first I will do for cherif kouachi. his horrorscope is having all the ingedients for making a jihadi.

firstly we must means we must see how lagna lord is. nicely he is sitting in the 10th. but if see means Shani is putting aspect for him. there only 50 percent discount we must give. why means shani is 8th lord. Moon is not having anybody this side that side please note.

twosly what means my favourite ingredient is came. graha yuddha. here if see means Budha and Venus is in war. frank to frank if I must tell means when such horoscope is came, best is to keep B.P.H.S. in the hand only. B.P.H.S. is clean cut clear - for cancer lagna venus is deadly evil. I am shocking but this is a cut clear fact. Sage Parashara told to mitriya very clear - 11th lord is dangerious lord.

here if see means 3rd lord and 11th lord is in war. dasha is of 3rd lord. like misguided missile, this fellow has misused his free will. upachaya house is evil. why tell? because of like this only. people are misuse their free will and next life they are born as what and all. see peoples are standing to q to go to the foreign. in such a situation this lucky fellow who is citizen of france that too ........... he is squandering his life. ok if he is along squandering means that is one thing. he is wasting others peoples life also no that only is problem.

another secret I want to tell for you. too many malefics in the 6th house means he is having violent tendencies. this is best secret I am giving. you test and see. see here ketu and kuja and shani and rahu - all the gentlemen of the sky is seeing or sitting in 6th bhava. there only script for violent story picture is written. in true nodes ketu is in Mrityu bhaga. In mean nodes Rahu is in mrityu bhaga. this fellow is so confusious even rahu and ketu are confusing.

also what you know? when budha and shani afflicted means the thinking only is ulta. see this fellow is listen to two some wise peoples from yemen. rest he is only digging his own grave. if alone he is digging means ok. one intelligent genius less in the world but he is tooking so many other peoples also. that is problem.

another what you know. if you put focus and see hardly this 9th lord Guru he is unfflicted. ok we can be able to tell he is in border this side that side, but if see means so much nothing is there. yet 9th house of dharma which should have given good effect, why it gave so bad effect I am not knowing. that too 9th house is dharma and religion house. why like this he did I cannot be able to understand.

one super point is what means when he is die (9 jan 2015) budha and shukra is in planetary war in his 7th bhava and Guru was in Mrityu bhaga on 7th jan in his lagna. whether this is having any thing to do with his action I am not knowing.

[howzat]

Now ladys and gentlemens please read what I am writing carefully ah. please. don't come and do the fighting. please read with cool heads and think. please. for all peoples who are love astrology you please open your minds and see

two peoples are there.
they are born in same country.
they are born to same mother and father.
they are practice the same religion.
growing time environment is also the same.
both are committing same atrocity
both are dying on same day around same time

but

horoscope is different.

then how we can able to tell free will is not there? how we can tell that horoscope and Grahas is having utmost power over us. see I have done too much research with open mind. my conclusion is what you know? a humans is bound by the grahas - no doubt - but his free will is vast. if one science person is showing these two horoscope to any astrologer and challenge - in dasha scheme you show that violent death is written at same time when they are doing the murder - frankly I am telling - astrologer will pack luggage and run to other side of Himalaya. shamefully I am telling - when such peoples are doing such things what astrologer .......... even god is shocking. why God? even grahas are not expecting that one person will do such. in Pakistan when school childrens were killed, grahas must have cried. But only one entity is not crying. Shani. why you know? because he is giving the fruit of the action of a human. when is is giving - even god cannot stop. the only solace is - the law of karma cannot be killed.

for astrologer, we also have to cry. why means - no text is showing how two idiots are getting together to create such a drama. what we astrologers can tell one clear scientific minded persons? how we can say that these two horoscope is having common thread where we can predict that they will do such a things? frank to frank I am telling - we are gotting up only because media is crying because it is paris. in Syria and Iraq and afganistan media is only not there. how we can be able to know what the intelligent and wise jihadi uncles are doing? what to do for them? God is also sleeping. if human beings is sleeping means if we throw one bucket of water he will got up. here bucket and bucket of blood is pouring. god is sleeping. what to say I only don't know.

why I am telling all this I have sawn in many cases - in todays day, even if you don't have raja yoga or dhana yoga it is no problem,. budha must be fine. upachaya house is strong means - when the horoscope is came - better to ask the person what his background is. from the horoscope try to see means it is blank. when upachaya house is afflicted we can only say that this person can be a katarnak killer. but whether he will take the knife or gun in the hand. only he knows. even god does not know I am telling you with 100 percent garentee.


here you see - two horoscope I am putting - 7 September 1980 at 01:40 (= 01:40 AM ) and 29 November 1982 at 22:20 (= 10:20 PM ) both in paris only.

put and see means day and night difference is there between the two horoscope. yet they are die at the same time and doing the same deed. how to show with jyotish?

see when plane is hit for the twin tower one twin is inside the building. another twin is not in the building. there is 10 minutes difference between these two brothers. I sawn their horoscope. No dasha is there for death. what to tell for this? one brother dead. other is alive. what to say?

my conclusion is what you know? - some events are crafted purely out of ones free will. sometimes even if your dasha is right - and you are expecting a raja yoga to strike - don't be surprised if a coconut falls on your head. see sometimes being in the wrong place at the wrong time is only enough. one true story I will tell. 3 persons is waiting for bus in bus shelter. one truck is carry plywood. truck driver is super idiot driving like mad man. truck is topple. you wont believe - ply wood is falling on three persons. best is what you know? driver is standing on the road. nothing is happen to him.

if we are expecting this event to show in horoscope - sadly - even if we search with telescope also it cannot be found. frank I am telling. next when I do for said kouachi horoscope I will show that one horoscope is very different from other. yet they are dying same time.

[howzat]

ah now I will do for second fellow see. said

Name : Kouachi, Saïd
born on 7 September 1980 at 01:40 (= 01:40 AM )
Place Paris Arrondissement 10, France, 48n5219, 2e2127
Timezone MEDT h2e (is daylight saving time)

when I am doing this horoscope what my wife is asking you know? my wife no, she is came to earth holding oxford and websters dictionary only. what she is talking must understand means I must open 10 dictionary. she is asking " does this horoscope fit the paradigm of a quintessential jihadi?" I told what you are talking man? Chinese ah English ah. straight away you ask no he is terrorist? yes or no. using big big words and all. what a

here if see means lagna is Gemini. Lagna lord is in exaltation sign. 10th lord aspecting 9th. raja yoga. 9th lord conjunct lagna lord in the 4th 1st class raja yoga. then what happened? why he did like this?

only one we can say. this moon is conjunct rahu in ashlesha nakshatra that too in same pada. ok we can say 8th lord is conjunct with lagna lord. other than that what we can say? i told for my wife see in navamsha moon affliction is there. shani moon rahu is together. she is laughing and telling hahahahaha "now the astrologer is clutching at the proverbial straws as he slowly drowns." what to tell? i am shameful.

ladys and gentlemans now you are seeing the limitation of astrology. can we go to the highest chart D60? we will try and see what means. here one point is came. which D 60 chart to take - how to read divisional chart? like a D1 chart? or is there another way. I am totally confusious. ok we will read like a d1 chart. if we do means using true lahari ayanamsha then lagna is came Taurus. we can say ketu moon shani is together in D60. But can we say that he is terrorist because of this one point? if go to see amsa rulers means all are in soumya amshas. then why he did like this? Again here you see. 9th house of dharma and religion is unafflicted. guru chandala yoga is not there in both the charts. if there means we can be able to say some what he is religious fanatics or religious crack pot. but here that is not there only.

for this fellow dasha if sawn means some good news is there for astrologer, why means - venus / ketu / rahu is a going on. now we can tell some what why means venus is 12th in maraka stana ok. also ketu is sitting in 8th bhava. rahu is sitting with maraka lord in maraka stana. he died in dasha connected with the 12th 2nd and the 8th. nice it is coming. but how he died we can be able to say ah? why he killed and died we can be able to say ah? there only problem is came.

frank to frank i am telling. if this horoscope came to me in normal day I will say for him that he is having good horoscope. why means 2 raja yoga i told in the before is a very good. what more one person is wanting tell? lagna lord in Kendra in own exaltation house. what a splendour. but see what he done. what to tell for this? what to tell? all i can tell my wife is - no my dear ..... this horoscope does not fit the paradigm of a quintessential terrorist.

[ranjan.75]

What to throw light madam. only darkness is there. first I will do for cherif kouachi. his horrorscope is having all the ingedients for making a jihadi.

firstly we must means we must see how lagna lord is. nicely he is sitting in the 10th. but if see means Shani is putting aspect for him. there only 50 percent discount we must give. why means shani is 8th lord. Moon is not having anybody this side that side please note.

twosly what means my favourite ingredient is came. graha yuddha. here if see means Budha and Venus is in war. frank to frank if I must tell means when such horoscope is came, best is to keep B.P.H.S. in the hand only. B.P.H.S. is clean cut clear - for cancer lagna venus is deadly evil. I am shocking but this is a cut clear fact. Sage Parashara told to mitriya very clear - 11th lord is dangerious lord.

here if see means 3rd lord and 11th lord is in war. dasha is of 3rd lord. like misguided missile, this fellow has misused his free will. upachaya house is evil. why tell? because of like this only. people are misuse their free will and next life they are born as what and all. see peoples are standing to q to go to the foreign. in such a situation this lucky fellow who is citizen of france that too ........... he is squandering his life. ok if he is along squandering means that is one thing. he is wasting others peoples life also no that only is problem.

another secret I want to tell for you. too many malefics in the 6th house means he is having violent tendencies. this is best secret I am giving. you test and see. see here ketu and kuja and shani and rahu - all the gentlemen of the sky is seeing or sitting in 6th bhava. there only script for violent story picture is written. in true nodes ketu is in Mrityu bhaga. In mean nodes Rahu is in mrityu bhaga. this fellow is so confusious even rahu and ketu are confusing.

also what you know? when budha and shani afflicted means the thinking only is ulta. see this fellow is listen to two some wise peoples from yemen. rest he is only digging his own grave. if alone he is digging means ok. one intelligent genius less in the world but he is tooking so many other peoples also. that is problem.

another what you know. if you put focus and see hardly this 9th lord Guru he is unfflicted. ok we can be able to tell he is in border this side that side, but if see means so much nothing is there. yet 9th house of dharma which should have given good effect, why it gave so bad effect I am not knowing. that too 9th house is dharma and religion house. why like this he did I cannot be able to understand.

one super point is what means when he is die (9 jan 2015) budha and shukra is in planetary war in his 7th bhava and Guru was in Mrityu bhaga on 7th jan in his lagna. whether this is having any thing to do with his action I am not knowing.

Dear Howzat

One Point Added: All benefics Jupiter, Mercury, Venus & 5th house is hemmed between shani & Mars, ketu forming papkartari yoga.

regard/Ranjan

[adity]

Hi Howzat

So are you saying this was a complete act of freewill? Hmmmmm..... difficult to digest. Lets not forget, in their minds(which is totally afflicted), this entire act was to defend their religion. They did it for their religion, upholding their religion so to say.

Do you have any more examples(real life examples) of free will being used.

Regards

[howzat]

by adity » 13 Jan 2015 10:33

Hi Howzat
Lets not forget, in their minds(which is totally afflicted), this entire act was to defend their religion. They did it for their religion, upholding their religion so to say.

see madam what means for astrologer two point is came when seeing for the horoscope. one point is what you know how one horoscope can affect other people and society. another is how a horoscope is affecting the individual. how much importance classical text is giving for the self, so much only they are giving importance for society. man is not living in the island no. he is living in the middle of the peoples only. he is not lonely wolf. sometimes one persons yoga which is there in horoscope is affecting whole world. you see that one.

one example I will give. one ladys is came to me with horoscope. not married ah. hers is what story picture you know? she is doing study in medical college. there she is meeting one boy class mates. what they say ..... they are sweet heart flames. but somehow they are not able to do full connection. after boy is finish the study he is falling in love with some other ladys and is gotting married to her. then they are gotting one childrens also. many years are passing then one day in face book they are touching each other. who? our ladys and that boy class mate. within a short times they are meeting in the hotel rooms and doing the things. understood ah? like that.

now see horoscope of ladys.

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now ladys is asking for me 2 questions. how for astrologer you see. she is telling I am asking my boyfriend to leave his wife and marry me. he has marry for 9 years.

1. will he leave his wife
2. when is my marriage with him likely to happen.

I am fully shocking. like that only directly she is asking that one. I told ladys see what you are doing is right ah? see if you are forcing for him to leave marriages means you are destroy for the other ladys life. also one childrens is there. how you can be able to do like this one? here if see hardly means - one yoga in her horoscope is going to affect many other peoples. you see.

[howzat]

firstly what I am seeing means - all planets is between kuja and shani. More is what means shani is putting aspect for kuja and kuja is return for the favour. twosly what means shani and guru is in planetary war. both in same degree see. who is Graha that is holding the flag of Dharma? Guru. Guru is total kalas why means Shani is 8th lord and also he is spoil for guru. also see more hardly means all three grahas in lagna are in 8th lord shani nakshatra. see madam she is medical doctors saving peoples life and all but in the private what she is doing see.

I told for her ladys see now he is already marry. that you don't know ah? why you want to put the pressure to leave the marriage? she is telling I am loving him and I am wanting him. I told see kindly you adjust no. weekly one or two times you lightly meet for him. don't spoil the marriage. also you do meeting carefully. getting caught means kalas. lightly you do that one. she is telling no no fully whole week I want for him. what to tell this modern day ladys? you only tell.

see 7th lord full patch because of war. there 9th is patch because of war. I told see madam now for you Moon dasha Shani antardasha is going on. shani is 8th bhava lord. one big scandal might came. what means now a days this phone camera and all is there. if some peoples sawn for you with this married mans means for you picture and chapter is close. in such game if putting pressure on each other means you or him will do the mistake and then yours story picture is over. she is telling I am ready for anything but I want him only. I told your age you see. you are acting like 16 years old. what a

there my wife is hearing full story and after this ladys is gone she is shouting for me why you are support and suggest for her to meet weekly. you must not support for her like this. what she is doing is a full wrong. I told my dear see your generations is different. now in the modern all peoples are thinking it is a ok. here she is wanting to break the marriage so I told lightly you do why you want to put other peoples in troubles. if I tell don't do means she will listen for me ah? she will go to astrologer who will put support for her. lightly we must handle situations. rashly do means she is gotting upset. They already done everything now what I can do? my wife what she done no she is showing chapal for me. I am running.

see madam why I told all this means -

1. here this medical doctors horoscope is having affliction. there it is putting affect for another ladys and one childrens and another ladys family.
2. just suppose if he is leaving wife and is being with this ladys means ok. how to trust such a fellow? if he is left one marriage of 9 years means what is guarantee that he will not leave this ladys again?

so like this I am showing in micro scale what means. in large scale you only sawn what these two French peoples is done. whole country is affect. correct no? you see ah.

see in our medical doctors mind what she is doing is correct. how to tell for her that she is doing the wrong? what she is telling you know? It is gods fault. I wanted to be with him from starting only but god is not granting my prayers. now god only is bringing for us together. what to tell? . one proper doctor working for multi speciality hospital that too she is physiatrist - she is only talking like this means what to tell. whole day peoples are thinking she is a next to God and she is having too much intelligence and wisdom. inside when seeing means she only must visit another physiatrist. what to tell for her I only am not knowing. one ladys dharma is another ladys adharma madam. see my wife is thinking this doctors is a wrong. but I am thinking ok lightly doing means nothing will happen but must not get caught. ladys doctors is saying I will break the marriage. nothing is a wrong in that. after all he is love for me - I is love for him. where that wife is came in between?

what they are telling in English? ......... one man's drink is another mans poison. but what we must see is - is an action done by the self causing hurt to another. here in the French case - they might have thought that they are right - but when it has hurt so many people and destroyed life - how can they say that their action is right?

fellows what he is telling you know?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/ ... if-kouachi

best is what you know? they are saying peace and blessings be upon the prophet. where he is nobody is knowing. what I am asking is - what about peace and blessing to the citizens of the world? what about peace to Syria afganistan and Iraq? what about peace to Nigeria? I cannot understand these peoples.

ok bye.

[adity]

Very Interesting perspective on how one horoscope can affect so many others. A very valid point you have made there. These horoscopes have foxed me. Like vedic said, can we actually see a terrorist from the horoscopes? I don't think so at all after seeing these two. I can maybe read death as a post mortem, but that they would commit a crime to this extent, definitely does not show other than the affliction of the mind. I am still not able to digest that it is an act of freewill. Are we missing something.

best is what you know? they are saying peace and blessings be upon the prophet. where he is nobody is knowing. what I am asking is - what about peace and blessing to the citizens of the world? what about peace to Syria afganistan and Iraq? what about peace to Nigeria? I cannot understand these peoples.

Well said.

Regards

[tv1980_2]

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[howzat]

Dear TV1980

It is all illusion and false hope. she is living in that. how to bring her out?

adity madam,

before I am putting one example for you, kindly you see this one ah. this what I am putting down it is from Garuda purana. what it is telling means,

if the mother is Goddess Lakshmi and the Father is Lord Vishnu and if the progeny (that is us) takes a faulty approach, then it is the progeny who has to be the taker of the punishment as it is due. we ourselves are the cause of our own misery and happiness both. what is done now has to be accounted for, if not immediately - then in the distant one (as per the schedule of the law of karma). Nothing goes without result. You cannot escape the results of your deeds hiding in the mountains, or deep caves or in the ocean, even if you lay your head in your mother's lap. the unfavourable results of one's act shall meet up with the one, just as the good consequences of one's act.

however much you run your horses of desire intentents and acts of the past become your destiny, and on this tree of destiny, all the fruits appear at the right time. Many reaches his destination impelled by Karmas - the deeds of his prior birth. Deeds and intentions done in his past and his intentions is what is responsible for this reincarnation - so one should intent and act now in a way that in his next incarnation he gets what is truly befitting to a good human.

here what means -

the progeny of Lakshmi and Vishnu - have the free will to act. they cannot be blamed for that progeny's misery. Here Garuda purana is telling that one is free to act as per his own devices. The result is to be accounted for by the doer himself.

Then it is telling -what you did in the past put you where you are in this life. now you act so that you script your next life. Our two French boys scripted such a evil story in this life - what they will be in the next - Only Shani knows.

Point is what means we are astrologers. Now I will tell what astrology text is telling. kindly see

Prashna Marga

- 24 / 35
Souls take fresh birth to reap the fruits of the actions of its previous life. This cycle will go on until one attains Moksha.

24 - 36/37
just as a lamp illuminates objects in the darkness - jyotish reveals to us the effects of our previous karma good or bad. All the grahas indicat clearly whether one is suffering or enjoying now as a result of our actions in our previous birth.

26 - 40
one undergoes the consequences of ones previous karma from birth to death. this can be known from a horoscope. Then what is the use of Prashna?

26 -41 (read again and again ah)
prashna reveals to the Jyotishi whether a man is reaping the fruits of his deeds from the past birth or the fruits of his actions in this (present) birth.

26 - 42
here a question arises - how can we distinguish whether it is the result of our previous karma or present karma that is yielding its results now.

27 - 43
if the horoscope has beneficial planetary positions/patterns and the prashna chart, malefic ones then it is to be understood that the native is experiencing the fruits of the evil karma done in this birth. If vice versa, then the native is experiencing the effects of good karma done in this birth.

madam - see very very clearely prashna marga is telling that a person can perform good or evil actions in this life - free from his horoscope.

[howzat]

What Dr svoboda is saying

Predictions made by an astrologer in those areas of life in which the natal horoscope shows Dridha – adridha (fixed non fixed)karmas or adridha (Non fixed) karma becomes progressively more tenuous (shaky sketchy, doubtful, questionable) because all the actions that have been performed after birth(in this life time) are transforming constantly – positively or negatively, the potential – final result of those actions. In such cases, the Jyotishi employs the tool of prashna to gauge the potential effects inherent in the kriyamana karma( total potential effect created by current actions) and agama (action that a person contemplates to take in the near/ distant future) - by casting a horoscope for the moment at which a question is asked or when an event occurs. A prashna horoscope thus gauges the accumulated influence of free will in one’s life up to the point when the prashna chart is cast. The information garnered from both horocopes (natal and prashna) is then blended for a reading. The horoscope cast at the moment a question is put to the Jyotishi will reveal what energies have been activated by the individual with regard to the question – in the time between his birth and the asking of the question.

Here madam both prashna marga and Dr Svoboda is told one thing – prashna chart is to be cast at the time a person asks the question to the Jyotishi. Kindly please see this one point – astrologer cannot cast prashna horoscope whenever he is getting one feeling or free time to do that one. Most important is what means – only the person in question should interact with the astrologer. My grand fathers elder brothers daughters friend cannot go to astrologer and ask question whether I will be able to be barber or engineer. What a rubbish is going on in the internets. One boy is loving for one girl. Girl is not knowing this boy. From face book and all he is getting birth date. Then from girls aunty who is neighbour of his he is getting birth time. Then he is coming for one forum and asking whether she will marry for him. Mean time that girl is having relationship with another boy for 8 years and they secretly gotten marry also in register office. Whole world is knowing they are marry except for boy and girls mummy and daddy and this lover boy. What to tell for this one?

Also see astrologers time is not important. For him it is in the east it is Monday and his ruling planet is ketu in celestial sky means for me what? For me that time it is Tuesday and ruling planet is rahu. Who is more important I am asking? What is important for both astrologer and me is when I am asking the question. for example one boy is wanting to got marry means he is going to astrologer and asking - sir when I can be able to marry. mine is love marriage. astrologer is telling - now I am busy I will see for you next Friday. I will do prasna next Friday and see if you are gotting or not. what a . astrologer is gotting married ah boy is gotting married ah? you only tell.

Prashna marga is a very clean cut clear – chart must be made immediately in front of the person asking the question at the time the question is asked. Also astrologer must observe the person carefully and also observe the nimitta at the time person is asking the question. Simply I am sitting in Tokyo means I cannot be able to answer prashna to person sitting in jhumri telayia in jharkand.

yesterday one person is coming and asking whether he will file case in police and court in some property dispute against family members. I told see you are not having the guts to do all that one. Just I am telling - suddenly one lady gentleman is came inside and asking for money. before he put clap and did hai for me I am taking 20 rs note and gave for him. He is a happy. There only I am looking at person asking question. He is smiling I am smiling. He is understood what means. That is nimmita. That nimmita is matching with natal chart reading. Like that it is.

Why I am telling all this means this horoscope down I put no – this fellow is not knowing the meaning of astrologer only. He is not knowing what is jyotish or who is Jyotishi only. You see horoscope. What you are seeing? How many raja yoga is there? But I will introduce for you to him.

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here if this person is gone to astrologer and show horoscope what astrologer would be able to tell? you only tell. many many raja yoga is there madam. but what he done no - you cannot be able to see in horoscope only. such a things he is doing.

[howzat]

what madam you not did only for this fellow? difficult no? it is not a simple. this fellow is who you know? this fellow is another idiot. he is French terrorist madam.

French Islamist terrorist, killing four Jewish patrons at a Jewish Hypercacher supermarket in Porte de Vincennes, Paris, on 9 January 2015, and an unarmed French policewoman, Clarissa Jean-Philippe, the day before. He was an acquaintance of Saïd and Chérif Kouachi, the perpetrators of the Charlie Hebdo shooting, to which both of Coulibaly's shootings were connected. He is also suspected to have shot a jogger in Fontenay-aux-Roses near Paris on 7 January in the evening. The jogger is critically injured.

Starting at the age of 17, he was convicted several times for robbery and at least once for drug trafficking. A report by a psychiatric expert prepared for a Parisian court found Coulibaly had an "immature and psychopathic personality" and "poor powers of introspection". Coulibaly met Chérif Kouachi in prison, while serving his sentence for a 2005 armed robbery. He is believed to have converted to radical Islam at the same time as Chérif. In 2010, he was sentenced to five years in prison for assisting a plot to break out Smain Ait Ali Belkacem from prison, a plot in which the Kouachi brothers were also involved. However, Coulibaly was released early.

Coulibaly was killed by the police when the supermarket, where he kept numerous hostages, was stormed by the police on 9 January around 17h12.

what you will tell madam for this? how much yoga is there you see. what to do with yoga tell. my wife is telling for me I am fortune person because I am having gaja kesari yoga in my horoscope. she is telling because of that yoga only I am a lucky to get wife like her. actual when seeing what you know? she is angry elephant and hungry lion madam. she is thinking one thing I am thinking another. interpretation of yoga is very tough madam.

now what to tell for this horoscope madam? this is horoscope of terrorist ah?


then sometimes some peoples are a lucky. something will happen and they are escape yama and his buffalo. nowadays what means yama is not getting sleep only. these isis peoples are giving night shift also for him. other side boko haram uncles are also giving competition for isis uncles. there Pakistan Taliban uncles also entered competition. buffalo is running full speed. ths fellow his tv is not working so he is sitting in the home only to wait for tv repair man. tv is working means he is sitting in hebdo office and he is sure getting one bullet in the head. what a lucky this fellow. yama is climbing buffalo to pick this fellow up but TV is spoilt and he is not came to work. what a lucky.

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what is running? Jupiter - rahu - rahu. rahu is giving effect of ketu also. two two viparita raja yoga is there. also 9th bhava lord shukra if see means 9th and 10th lord is having graha yuddha. venus is full patch. 0.0 degree in Mrityu bhaga. Rahu must give result of shukra no. but what a lucky. he is escape this one. here if see graha yuddha means 9th and 10th in close conjunction is gave one super dharma karmadipathi yoga. so only we must see yudha is happening between who and who. simply when yuddha is there if astrologer is telling ah finish for you means one egg will fall on astrologer face. astrologer will be shameful.

[vedicmaths]

Hi addity,

Between the two charts of the brothers, the younger one's chart reveals that the person is under immense pressure from highly stressful aspects. Thoughts of terrorism is just one possiblity when one comes under such pressure, but every one cannot be termed a terrorist with such a chart. The person could be in general, termed as a rebellion , either at home or school or office. When he is felt rebellious by the society due to his behavior, he becomes anti social. If he follows
a doctrine either as a leader or as a worker, the terror comes out either openly or from behind.

The people who commit such crimes are prepared to die. While the leaders try to survive for long, the workers
succumb to their fate. Free will vanishes here.

Mars, a planet of violence ( a yoga karaka for this chart ! ) , fully aspects Lagna and exactly trines his
Lagna lord. This Mars is associating with moon once again in navamsa and along with Saturn.
Navamsa lagna is 8th from the Rasi lagna . One should sit upright now... A person to be watched..
Look at the links.. This kind of link will occur only in few charts.

Mars dasa started sometime when he was 15. Rahu dasa started when he was 22. It is highly
probable, he associated with groups of terror sometime from the age 22. Right at this time rahu
passed over his natal moon and saturn started gripping his natal lagna.

The most intriguing thing in this chart is the close aspect of jupiter on moon. How did this
jupiter influenced him to be a fanatic ? A nice area to probe. Did this jupiter's aspect went as a
waste ? or is he part of the game ? or was he over powered by other grahas ? My mind is around
this enigmatic jupiter.

regards

vedicmaths

[howzat]

Dear Vedic maths correctly you are put the finger for Jupiter. I am also shocking when I sawn that one. why means How much aspect Shani is putting on Moon (81.79%) 10% more only Guru is putting on Moon(91.46%). Then how this Guru is not giving the Good? Answer is Given by Rajan 75 Ji. Nicely he has sawn that one, what means All natural benefics is in sin scissor yoga or papa katri yoga. Most danger this is, why because Shani and Ketu is there in this katri. For this lagna Shani is a katarnak fellow. Ketu is katarnak because he is in 6th Bhava. That too Guru is exalted in Navamsha, but Ketu is there still he is mute spectator. what a . That too Guru is 9th Bhava lord. why he is standing in the side I am only not knowing.

[adity]

How will jupiter help. Look at the state of Jupiter. Its in a rasi sandhi, its the lord of the 6th, placed with a combust 3rd and 12th lord who is in a war . Look at the navamsha, jupiter though exalted is placed with ketu . I repeat again, in his mind he was defending his religion(guru is the 9th lord as well). 5th house of purva punya is in a complete mess. Mars is a yogakaraka, but placed with ketu who is in mrityubaga, aspected by another malefic saturn and becomes doubly powerful. Saturn is the 8th lord. Yogakaraka mars now is completely gone with the association of all malefics - 8th lord saturn, rahu and ketu. Dasa when he died was Rahu mercury. Rahu again in MB, aspected by ketu and Mars. Dispositor of Rahu is mercury who is combust and in a war and a utter malefic for this lagna. Now look at the moon. Nothing on either side, dispositor of moon is Mars(and we know the state of mars) and aspected by saturn . Lets look at the lagna - Lagna is aspected by malefics - Mars, 8th lord saturn. Lets look at sun - Sun is conjunct with the 3rd and 12th lord and the 6th lord, and whose dispositor is mars. Hence the 3 pillars - Lagna, Moon and Sun are gone.

I am now thinking, well it is showing in the chart and not necessarily an act of free will. Atleast this chart(1982 chart). Yes i also agree as a post mortem its easier to do.


Regards

[vedicmaths]

Hi howzat and adity

Papakartari yoga might be working, but not only jupiter but to Sun, Mercury and venus as well.
If you see the longitude of Jupiter and ketu, it is around 40 deg. In essence, ketu sticks to jupiter
in many vargas and the stress on the lagna and lagna lord, could have pushed his religious
approach towards fanatism

jupiter's sign dispositor are ketu and mars. Jupiter and Ketu & Mars have exchanged signs.
In navamsa, Ketu is with Jupiter and Mars aspects him. The dispositor of Jupiter is Moon. Moon
is with Saturn and Mars.

A pure Jupiter - Ketu combo can show spiritualism . Here, since Jupiter has been covered with
dirty linen from head to foot, fanaticism could have crept in.

This kind of accumulated pressure pushed him to take part in killing 12 people in 2008, as stated by astro databank website. It says,

" He has been the killer of twelve people, together with his brother Saïd. In 2008, Kouachi was convicted of terrorism charges and sentenced to three years in prison, along with 18 months of suspension, for having assisted in sending fighters to a militant Islamist group] in Iraq, and being part of a group that solicited young French Muslims to fight with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq. "

Vimsottari Dasa:

Rah MD: 2005-03-01 - 2023-03-01
Jup AD: 2007-11-15 - 2010-04-07 >>>> killed 12 in 2008

and now,
Vimsottari Dasa:

Rah MD: 2005-03-01 - 2023-03-01
Merc AD: 2013-02-11 - 2015-09-03

Pratyantardasas in this AD:

Merc: 2013-02-11 - 2013-06-24

Rah: 2014-07-18 - 2014-12-05
Jup: 2014-12-05 - 2015-04-05 >>>>> now another crime..
Sat: 2015-04-05 - 2015-09-03


regards

vedicmaths

[howzat]

hello madam

nicely you are doing that one why means if you are showing astrological reason for his action means I am a happy. Jolly. why means otherwise so many years I am holding B.P.H.S. and sitting, all will became waste in gutter.

this horoscope we can be able to pull one one tatwa from here and there and make one picture story. so only I said in first only that

by howzat » 11 Jan 2015 11:07
What to throw light madam. only darkness is there. first I will do for cherif kouachi. his horrorscope is having all the ingedients for making a jihadi.

but ingedients we are discovered only after he is grinding the masala and cooking full of paris. before that if we sawn this horoscope means can we be able to tell he will became terrorist means it is possible ah I am asking.

ok somewhat we can be able to tell that this cherif fellow is one type angry young man good for nothing violence fellow. How to fit this fellow with the second fellow? see what means - two people are having very very different horoscope - still they are done the same act and died also in same time. how to do the accounts for that?

also these brothers friend is there. how to fit for him with these two peoples. total in this dirty picture three peoples is there. full total if sawn means one ladys also is there. how to put for all of them in same basket I am not knowing.

second fellow horoscope you do madam. then we will be able to discuss. after that you do for third fellow. then total we will see for the top. common pattern should came. other wise no use. in any of the divisional chart if one common pattern is there means then we are a jolly. third fellow you leave, between two brothers horoscope if common pattern is there means I am a jolly. I am trying to search hardly. but I am not able to find that one. may be you are sawn that one. if you are sawn please tell.

ok bye

[adity]

Howzat no nothing in common....force fitting wil be shameful

[howzat]

Postby vedicmaths » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:42 pm
Hi howzat and adity
pure Jupiter - Ketu combo can show spiritualism . Here, since Jupiter has been covered with
dirty linen from head to foot, fanaticism could have crept in.

This kind of accumulated pressure pushed him to take part in killing 12 people in 2008, as stated by astro databank website. It says,

" He has been the killer of twelve people, together with his brother Saïd. In 2008, Kouachi was convicted of terrorism charges and sentenced to three years in prison, along with 18 months of suspension, for having assisted in sending fighters to a militant Islamist group] in Iraq, and being part of a group that solicited young French Muslims to fight with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq. "
Vimsottari Dasa:

Rah MD: 2005-03-01 - 2023-03-01
Jup AD: 2007-11-15 - 2010-04-07 >>>> killed 12 in 2008

dear Vedic maths, here what means only one small grammar error you made. in 2008 was convicted of terriorism for having assisted in sending fighters to a militant islamist group - not for killing 12 people together with his brother said.

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kindly please. don't feel badly ah.

[vedicmaths]

Hi howzat,

We are trying to find the killer of killers astrologically.

I would like to avoid too much discussion on the " death factor ", since new comers to astrology and the like, will put themselves to stress. They can also frighten their parents / coborns / friends , etc.

There are many cases like this in mass deaths. An airplane crash could have taken away a whole family away.

Sun, is a big fall of fire. Sun can also represent a moving fire with lot of energy. When it hurts a person it could take one's life. Look the postion of Sun at the time of incident ( or you can consider just the date ).

In the case of the elder brother, Sun was tring his AK-jupiter very closely. If the case of the younger, Sun was placed exactly in the sixth from his lagna.

Look at the link between the brothers natally. Elder brother's moon is place over younger brother's lagna.
Did the elder brother influence his younger brother ? that is quite natural.

Mars was placed in the 8th from that point of link between the brothers at the time of death.

Standard astrological rules can very explain death in certaing cases and not all. The hidden and unknown
rules are to be found out by the astrological community taking as many case studies as possible.


Also you wrote about the conviction in 2008 where i made a mistake of saying that he killed 12 people.
No problem for pointing out the mistake. Did the conviction put him behind bars ? How and when did he come
out of the jail are quesions for which we do not know the answer.

regards

vedicmaths