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[quote="powerboss"]I have sun-ven-mer with saturn in same house.[/quote]
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Can you tell me your birth and place details or else give ur planetary positions and lagna details...
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[quote="bhadsanjay"][quote="amitns"]I have this combination Sun-Ven-Mer-Mars and all very close to one another and yes its not a very good one to have.

saving grace : dristi from lagni guru..

24 Oct 74
15:12 hrs
Thane (nr Mumbai)

clarification : i am nowhere near a saint, 100% materialistic guy![/quote]
Hi Amit,

Let me check your horo and then I will revert..[/quote]

Hi Amit,

The most important thing is our Nakshatra which in your case is Shravana which says :

This is the star of listening, also called the "Star of Learning". They are always questing for knowledge, and information. They can be very intellectual. Wisdom and the spoken word are very important here. They make great teachers, or perpetual students. Counseling is a gift for they have the ability to truly listen. Their sense of hearing can be very acute and sensitive. They are very traditional and want to uncover knowledge of the past. Listening and participating in gossip are common, even though they are extremely sensitive and hurt as a result. Their restless nature causes them to travel extensively, usually in a pursuit of knowledge. There seems to be trouble and disappointments early in life, and some disabilities.

Also since Jupiter in 1st makes you knowledgeable, spiritual but Moon in 12th makes you have sleeping issues, sometimes depression, sorrows after celebrations.

Rahu is in 10th house, so tell me what job are you doing and so many planets in 9th house, and Saturn in 5th house, how is your married life and children ?
Since Mars is negative in your case, so tell me how is the relationship with your brothers and also how is the condition of your mother and father ?

Sharing this will help us all in getting a closer insight of the role of planets and Nakshatra in our lives !!
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[quote="drnature88"]Hi ,
I have Sun - Venus - Mercury together in 5th house in Libra ...
I am attracted towards Meditation ... but not to that stage , where I leave everything


18 10 1987
10.55pm
Ahmedabad , Gujarat
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Hi drnature,

Looked at your horoscope and checked your Nakshatra which is Uttar Phalguni which says :

These individuals are usually carefree, never worry and rely on their luck. They are attractive, sensual, and affectionate. They are very social, with the ability to influence others, with their communicative skills. Social events and parties are their favorite activity. This has been called the party nakshatra. They are kind, generous, and loyal, and are seldom alone. They are usually married or in a long term relationship. Their joyousness can lead to excesses, going to the extremes. They are very sexual and passionate. They have robust health. They may be lazy and indulgent, lending to vanity and narcissism. They can be very artistic and often express themselves through music and dance. There is often a substantial family inheritance.

So how much is true in this ?

Also your Rahu and Ketu are Neecha and Rahu in 10th house, so what job are you doing and since Jupiter is in 11th house, how is the condition of your father ?

Mars along with Ketu in 4th house is very malefic since mars becomes negative when Mercury and Venus are together and Mars in 4th house is worst placement for self and spouse. So how is your married life ?

What education you had ?
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drnature88 wrote:Hi ,
I have Sun - Venus - Mercury together in 5th house in Libra ...
I am attracted towards Meditation ... but not to that stage , where I leave everything


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Hi drnature,

Looked at your horoscope and checked your Nakshatra which is Uttar Phalguni which says :

These individuals are usually carefree, never worry and rely on their luck. They are attractive, sensual, and affectionate. They are very social, with the ability to influence others, with their communicative skills. Social events and parties are their favorite activity. This has been called the party nakshatra. They are kind, generous, and loyal, and are seldom alone. They are usually married or in a long term relationship. Their joyousness can lead to excesses, going to the extremes. They are very sexual and passionate. They have robust health. They may be lazy and indulgent, lending to vanity and narcissism. They can be very artistic and often express themselves through music and dance. There is often a substantial family inheritance.

So how much is true in this ?

Also your Rahu and Ketu are Neecha and Rahu in 10th house, so what job are you doing and since Jupiter is in 11th house, how is the condition of your father ?

Mars along with Ketu in 4th house is very malefic since mars becomes negative when Mercury and Venus are together and Mars in 4th house is worst placement for self and spouse. So how is your married life ?

What education you had ?
Well bhadsanjay brother ,
I am not carefree at all , instead I think much on everything than needed :| ,
not very Social , I don't mix easily ... Even not to first to start Conversation
I hate Parties ... I like Artistic way but not into Dance ( was learning Guitar but left it due to time Shortage)

And Rahu Ketu thing , I think Rahu's Own house is Virgo and Ketu's Pisces ...
Rahu gets Uchcha in Vrushabh ( Acc to BV Raman and also Parashar ) and Ketu get Uchcha in Vruschik / Dhana ... so It will be debilated either in Vruschik... So Rahu and Ketu is not neech according to that ... For Details , Visit this page
http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha/R ... uchcha.htm

Father was in Govt Job ...now Retired
Not married yet , ( Me too Don't want to get married ... want to study more )
I am working as Ayurvedic Doctor ...I studied BAMS (Bachelor of Ayurveda in Medicine and Surgery) ...
Thanks :)
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[quote="drnature88"][quote="bhadsanjay"][quote="drnature88"]Hi ,
I have Sun - Venus - Mercury together in 5th house in Libra ...
I am attracted towards Meditation ... but not to that stage , where I leave everything


18 10 1987
10.55pm
Ahmedabad , Gujarat
India[/quote]

Hi drnature,

Looked at your horoscope and checked your Nakshatra which is Uttar Phalguni which says :

These individuals are usually carefree, never worry and rely on their luck. They are attractive, sensual, and affectionate. They are very social, with the ability to influence others, with their communicative skills. Social events and parties are their favorite activity. This has been called the party nakshatra. They are kind, generous, and loyal, and are seldom alone. They are usually married or in a long term relationship. Their joyousness can lead to excesses, going to the extremes. They are very sexual and passionate. They have robust health. They may be lazy and indulgent, lending to vanity and narcissism. They can be very artistic and often express themselves through music and dance. There is often a substantial family inheritance.

So how much is true in this ?

Also your Rahu and Ketu are Neecha and Rahu in 10th house, so what job are you doing and since Jupiter is in 11th house, how is the condition of your father ?

Mars along with Ketu in 4th house is very malefic since mars becomes negative when Mercury and Venus are together and Mars in 4th house is worst placement for self and spouse. So how is your married life ?

What education you had ?[/quote]

Well bhadsanjay brother ,
I am not carefree at all , instead I think much on everything than needed :| ,
not very Social , I don't mix easily ... Even not to first to start Conversation
I hate Parties ... I like Artistic way but not into Dance ( was learning Guitar but left it due to time Shortage)

And Rahu Ketu thing , I think Rahu's Own house is Virgo and Ketu's Pisces ...
Rahu gets Uchcha in Vrushabh ( Acc to BV Raman and also Parashar ) and Ketu get Uchcha in Vruschik / Dhana ... so It will be debilated either in Vruschik... So Rahu and Ketu is not neech according to that ... For Details , Visit this page
http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/Graha/R ... uchcha.htm

Father was in Govt Job ...now Retired
Not married yet , ( Me too Don't want to get married ... want to study more )
I am working as Ayurvedic Doctor ...I studied BAMS (Bachelor of Ayurveda in Medicine and Surgery) ...
Thanks :)[/quote]

Hi drnature,

So there is a vast difference between what your nakshatra says and what you are in reality !!
But I know for sure that Rahu also gets debilitated in pisces and Ketu in virgo.
But the main issue is that the life will take many twists and turns and what I can predict is that after marriage , this combination does lead to problems in family life and also finances.
Also Jupiter in 11th house damages father to the extent that his health may be adversaly affected and he may not live so long to see his grandchildren. I have seen this in 3 of my known people's charts.
As long as the father lives with him, life is ok but gets disturbed a lot if he goes away.

Before getting married , confirm your spouse is manglik. Ketu in 4th house makes a person wander away from home in search of anything which he cannot get at home.

So lets wait and watch ....
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Hi drnature,

So there is a vast difference between what your nakshatra says and what you are in reality !!
But I know for sure that Rahu also gets debilitated in pisces and Ketu in virgo.
But the main issue is that the life will take many twists and turns and what I can predict is that after marriage , this combination does lead to problems in family life and also finances.
Also Jupiter in 11th house damages father to the extent that his health may be adversaly affected and he may not live so long to see his grandchildren. I have seen this in 3 of my known people's charts.
As long as the father lives with him, life is ok but gets disturbed a lot if he goes away.

Before getting married , confirm your spouse is manglik. Ketu in 4th house makes a person wander away from home in search of anything which he cannot get at home.

So lets wait and watch ....
Ok , Thanks Brother , :)
But According to Many Ancient Astrological Texts , It is not getting Debilated as I gave you link where many of the Popular texts are mentioned ... none of them shows It is debilated there ... I am posting Views of Astrologer and other Texts which shows Debilation and Exalation ....

1st , B V Raman , A Catechism of Astrology -
Parasara is very clear in declaring that
Virgo is to be owned by Rahu and Pisces is to be owned by Ketu.
the exaltation sign for Rahu is Taurus and for Ketu, Scorpio.

Other Reference -

Vriddha Samhita - Rahu Owns Aquarius
Vriddha Samhita - Ketu -Owns Scorpio

Jyotishamrita - Rahu Owns Aquarius
Jyotishamrita - Ketu Owns Scorpio

Veemesaram - Rahu Owns Aquarius , exalted in Scorpio; fallen in Taurus
Veemesaram - Ketu , exalted in Scorpio; fallen in Taurus

Jatakachintamani - Rahu exalted in Scorpio; fallen in Taurus
Jatakachintamani - Ketu exalted in Gemini; fallen in Sagittarius

Jatakalankaram - Rahu - exalted in Scorpio; fallen in Taurus
Jatakalankaram - Ketu exalted in Scorpio; fallen in Taurus

Syama Sangraham - Rahu - exalted in Gemini and fallen in Sagittarius
Syama Sangraham - Ketu - exalted in Sagittarius and fallen in Gemini

Sarvartha Chintamani - Rahu - exalted in Taurus; fallen in Scorpio
Sarvartha Chintamani - Ketu - exalted in Scorpio; fallen in Taurus

Bhavartha Ratnakara - Rahu - exalted in Taurus; Gemini and Cancer mulatrikona
Bhavartha Ratnakara - Ketu -exalted in Scorpio; Sagittarius and Capricorn mulatrikona
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bhadsanjay wrote:
Hi drnature,

So there is a vast difference between what your nakshatra says and what you are in reality !!
But I know for sure that Rahu also gets debilitated in pisces and Ketu in virgo.
But the main issue is that the life will take many twists and turns and what I can predict is that after marriage , this combination does lead to problems in family life and also finances.
Also Jupiter in 11th house damages father to the extent that his health may be adversaly affected and he may not live so long to see his grandchildren. I have seen this in 3 of my known people's charts.
As long as the father lives with him, life is ok but gets disturbed a lot if he goes away.

Before getting married , confirm your spouse is manglik. Ketu in 4th house makes a person wander away from home in search of anything which he cannot get at home.

So lets wait and watch ....
Family life - Well attached with Family members and Family members with me as well , :) ...

Finance - No Major Problem , (not Best like Ambanis :mrgreen: ) but Good ...

About Ketu Prediction - have never wandered outside of Home ,( Even I got Admission in college in My city only ... have never gone to Hostel ...) Getting enough Family love and care to get Attached with them ...
In D9 , Ketu is in Pisces ... And Rahu is in Virgo ... according to Parashar , Virgo is to be owned by Rahu and Pisces is to be owned by Ketu... What is your View about that ?

Manglik - Yes , I will take care of it :)

Jupiter - is Vargottam , ( in D9 - With Mars in Aries ) ... What is your view about that ?
(It is also Retrograde )
Brother , You are right about Father's Health ... He was ill before but now Well :)
but Some of things you mentioned are totally Opposite than current Situations :| ...

Thanks for your time , Brother ... :)
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[quote="drnature88"][quote="bhadsanjay"]

Hi drnature,

So there is a vast difference between what your nakshatra says and what you are in reality !!
But I know for sure that Rahu also gets debilitated in pisces and Ketu in virgo.
But the main issue is that the life will take many twists and turns and what I can predict is that after marriage , this combination does lead to problems in family life and also finances.
Also Jupiter in 11th house damages father to the extent that his health may be adversaly affected and he may not live so long to see his grandchildren. I have seen this in 3 of my known people's charts.
As long as the father lives with him, life is ok but gets disturbed a lot if he goes away.

Before getting married , confirm your spouse is manglik. Ketu in 4th house makes a person wander away from home in search of anything which he cannot get at home.

So lets wait and watch ....[/quote]

Family life - Well attached with Family members and Family members with me as well , :) ...

Finance - No Major Problem , (not Best like Ambanis :mrgreen: ) but Good ...

About Ketu Prediction - have never wandered outside of Home ,( Even I got Admission in college in My city only ... have never gone to Hostel ...) Getting enough Family love and care to get Attached with them ...
In D9 , Ketu is in Pisces ... And Rahu is in Virgo ... according to Parashar , Virgo is to be owned by Rahu and Pisces is to be owned by Ketu... What is your View about that ?

Manglik - Yes , I will take care of it :)

Jupiter - is Vargottam , ( in D9 - With Mars in Aries ) ... What is your view about that ?
(It is also Retrograde )
Brother , You are right about Father's Health ... He was ill before but now Well :)
but Some of things you mentioned are totally Opposite than current Situations :| ...

Thanks for your time , Brother ... :)[/quote]
Hi Dranature,

As I said life takes a lot of twists and turns, so what you are feeling now will change drastically after say 5 to 10 years. This I am saying from practical experience. I can bet that you will surely have these situations after some years and then you can turn to me and still say if its true or not. I am close to 40 years and what i had conditions when I was 25 or 30 years is totally different that what it is now, the same happens to everybody. So please wait and watch...
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hi sanjay

rahu is debilitated in scorpio and does not give good effects in saggi. thats what i read everywhere.
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hi sanjay

rahu is debilitated in scorpio and does not give good effects in saggi. thats what i read everywhere.
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bhadsanjay wrote: Hi Dranature,

As I said life takes a lot of twists and turns, so what you are feeling now will change drastically after say 5 to 10 years. This I am saying from practical experience. I can bet that you will surely have these situations after some years and then you can turn to me and still say if its true or not. I am close to 40 years and what i had conditions when I was 25 or 30 years is totally different that what it is now, the same happens to everybody. So please wait and watch...
You are right brother , Twist and turn comes to everyone's life ... It is Nature's Law of Rise and Fall , Everybody who rises , will fall for sure ... and will rise again ... it is Unstoppable Process

But I think That Change of Mahadasha are cause of Major Twist in life , AD ,Transit can also give Twist and Turns( But not that Big like MD change) , I am having Moon Mahadasha till 2022 ... So may be till than no Major Twist Turns can happen ...
so may be it will take to Mars Mahadasha to cause Major Twist ... Mars in 4th with Ketu isn't that Good placement I know ... But in D9 , It is in Aries with Jupiter... Please tell your view about that

I want to know your Opinion about Jupiter and Moon placement in D9 ,
Also Rahu and Ketu in D9 ...

Thanks for Reply , Brother :)
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amitns wrote:hi sanjay

rahu is debilitated in scorpio and does not give good effects in saggi. thats what i read everywhere.
Same thing about Scorpio that I Read brother ... :)
( Though I read many Opinions as well , So Confused ) :|
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[quote="drnature88"][quote="bhadsanjay"]
Hi Dranature,

As I said life takes a lot of twists and turns, so what you are feeling now will change drastically after say 5 to 10 years. This I am saying from practical experience. I can bet that you will surely have these situations after some years and then you can turn to me and still say if its true or not. I am close to 40 years and what i had conditions when I was 25 or 30 years is totally different that what it is now, the same happens to everybody. So please wait and watch...[/quote]

You are right brother , Twist and turn comes to everyone's life ... It is Nature's Law of Rise and Fall , Everybody who rises , will fall for sure ... and will rise again ... it is Unstoppable Process

But I think That Change of Mahadasha are cause of Major Twist in life , AD ,Transit can also give Twist and Turns( But not that Big like MD change) , I am having Moon Mahadasha till 2022 ... So may be till than no Major Twist Turns can happen ...
so may be it will take to Mars Mahadasha to cause Major Twist ... Mars in 4th with Ketu isn't that Good placement I know ... But in D9 , It is in Aries with Jupiter... Please tell your view about that

I want to know your Opinion about Jupiter and Moon placement in D9 ,
Also Rahu and Ketu in D9 ...

Thanks for Reply , Brother :)[/quote]
Hi DRnature,

I dont belive much in divisional charts and they will confuse you a lot instead of clarifying :cry:
And I believe that each planet rules for some years in his life like, Sun 22 23 years, moon 24th, 25th etc, Mars 28th till 33rd year, Mercury 34th and 35th year, Saturn 36 till 41, rahu 42 till 47 , ketu 48 onwards.

So you will feel mars effect from 28th year onwards and so on.
I totally believe in GD Vashishtas views and seen many of his shows.
So we must look at the main Lagna chart only and that will tell about 80 to 90% of our life.
The divisional charts may be totally wrong even if you have some seconds error in your birth time and hence its not good to go into them !!
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4 or more planet makes house disturbed & person becomes confused.Once disturbance reaches extreme that can make a person mad,thinking about suicide or become detached.
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4or more planet makes house disturbed & person becomes confused.Once disturbance reaches extreme that can make a person mad,thinking about suicide or become detached.

That is totally incorrect. I have 7 planets in a house and dont think the house is disturbed. I am very well educated and have several skills that I can talk about.
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[quote="Dev"][color=#008040] 4or more planet makes house disturbed & person becomes confused.Once disturbance reaches extreme that can make a person mad,thinking about suicide or become detached.[/color]

That is totally incorrect. I have 7 planets in a house and dont think the house is disturbed. I am very well educated and have several skills that I can talk about.[/quote]
You have full previlage to express your views , I respect your views but I can not change my views.
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[quote="gen80"][quote="Dev"][color=#008040] 4or more planet makes house disturbed & person becomes confused.Once disturbance reaches extreme that can make a person mad,thinking about suicide or become detached.[/color]

That is totally incorrect. I have 7 planets in a house and dont think the house is disturbed. I am very well educated and have several skills that I can talk about.[/quote]
You have full previlage to express your views , I respect your views but I can not change my views.[/quote]

Hi gen80,

Thats quite interesting. Can you give your birth and place details so that we can also analyze and understand it deeply....
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bhadsanjay wrote: Hi Drnature,

I dont belive much in divisional charts and they will confuse you a lot instead of clarifying :cry:
And I believe that each planet rules for some years in his life like, Sun 22 23 years, moon 24th, 25th etc, Mars 28th till 33rd year, Mercury 34th and 35th year, Saturn 36 till 41, rahu 42 till 47 , ketu 48 onwards.

So you will feel mars effect from 28th year onwards and so on.
I totally believe in GD Vashishtas views and seen many of his shows.
So we must look at the main Lagna chart only and that will tell about 80 to 90% of our life.
The divisional charts may be totally wrong even if you have some seconds error in your birth time and hence its not good to go into them !!
:| , If you don't believe in Divisional chart than how you prefer Vargottam Effect ?
You don't look to Mahadasha :| ... than how can timings of events can be predicted?
only Lagna Chart may be like "Half blood Prince" Astrology :|
But Everyone has right to express his Own view ... Thanks brother :)
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I have this sun-mer-venus combination in 6th house and am makar lagna

Yes at times i feel little impulsive in emotional matters - am not sure whether its the outcome of this combination but i have a good family life ( mite be too early to predict ) (2011 married)

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If it can help to predict some trend with my data
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[quote="bhadsanjay"][quote="powerboss"]I have sun-ven-mer with saturn in same house.[/quote]
Hi power boss,

Can you tell me your birth and place details or else give ur planetary positions and lagna details...[/quote]

Hi,
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That is rubbish. You can get confused even by placement of one planet in the wrong place. Many is actually bette.r in the sense there are some friends to save you
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Hello
I have sun, venus, mars and mercury together in the
10th house and they are closely conjunct. I feel that everything in my life is stuck. And I want to renounce everything at times.. But I am not sure if I can progress in the spiritual field.
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What happens if Sun, Mercury and Venus are in Dhana house i.e. 2nd house? Suppose it is Libra lagna and these planets are in Scorpio and how will it affect the financial position.

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