Correlation between rahu position and one's self image?

[azncuzin202]

Considering that Rahu represents obsession, in which house would one obsess over achieving charisma? As a leo ascendant with a vergottama venus in libra as well as a rahu in the 5th house, I feel like a lot of my "enemies" are generally people who resent the fact that I do have leadership qualities.

From my readings on my own rahu in the 5th, people with this position tend to feel overlooked in some way in addition to wanting to develop their ego which I can definitely attest to. Could a person with a rahu in the 1st obsess over having confidence and power? It seems like a rahu in the 5th could also resent me which is pretty ironic.

[VioletTwilight]

Considering that Rahu represents obsession, in which house would one obsess over achieving charisma? As a leo ascendant with a vergottama venus in libra as well as a rahu in the 5th house, I feel like a lot of my "enemies" are generally people who resent the fact that I do have leadership qualities.

From my readings on my own rahu in the 5th, people with this position tend to feel overlooked in some way in addition to wanting to develop their ego which I can definitely attest to. Could a person with a rahu in the 1st obsess over having confidence and power? It seems like a rahu in the 5th could also resent me which is pretty ironic.

Just a thought of the top of my head:

Have you considered Rahu being 6th from Chandra lagna, 3rd from Arudha lagna (where Venus is located), and Rahu being co-lord of 6th house from Paaka lagna (where Sun is located) forms a part of the problem with the feeling of "enemies"? And not just the fact that Rahu is in 5th?

[ams]

1st house, i.e. the ascendant!!

first house represents you, if rahu is present in it, you are obsessed with impressing people by personality.
Rahu doesn't have any house of it's own. Though they says 3rd but debatable. Ego is related to Sun, fully!! malefic, debilitated Sun can cause this. However, Strong sun gives you perseverance to gulp. Hence reason politicians have so much patience despite being ridiculed by many

[azncuzin202]

So does rahu 6th from chandra lagna mean obsession over enemies? I'm not sure what the other positions mean though?

[ams]

Don't go into too much Malarkey. Rahu in 6th is good!! Gives courage and determination to rise against fall. Sometimes cal also be interpreted as obsessions etc...it's all +ve!!

[VioletTwilight]

So does rahu 6th from chandra lagna mean obsession over enemies? I'm not sure what the other positions mean though?

No. I mean 6th house represents enemies (apart from other significations of debts, pets, co-workers, illness and so on). Having strong malefic in 6th house is good since it shows good fighter. But, why would one fight if they don't have enemies? So, it also shows strong enemies.

That is all I meant.

[azncuzin202]

Ahhh I see. However can you clarify the definition of enemies? Could they be born out of jealousy or contempt?

[VioletTwilight]

Ahhh I see. However can you clarify the definition of enemies? Could they be born out of jealousy or contempt?

In true jyotish philosophy all enemies are our own karmas. However, 6 grahas (not counting sun, moon, jupiter) in 6th house are supposed to show our shadripu (as per Pt. Sanjay Rath lessons). I don't remember how they would exactly map.
kama, kroda, lobha, moha, mada, matsarya. I think Mars is easy for kroda-anger, and matsarya is jealousy - Mercury (i think?), lobha - greed - Saturn, mada-arrogance - ketu, moha-obsession-rahu, kama-desire-venus, I am not exactly sure about Saturn, Venus, and Rahu ones, I might have to listen to the lessons again.

May be you can count Mercury for jealousy and Ketu for contempt?

Also, 11th house is supposed to show friends since 11th is 6th from 6th. So, enemy's enemy is friend.

[surajmohith]

hai violet
ur explanation is educating . is this only taken with respect to lagna or from all other lagnas .if we consider all other lagnas we will end up with different planets in 6th wrt to that lagnas .than how to calculate the strength about our enemies?
regards

[VioletTwilight]

hai violet
ur explanation is educating . is this only taken with respect to lagna or from all other lagnas .if we consider all other lagnas we will end up with different planets in 6th wrt to that lagnas .than how to calculate the strength about our enemies?
regards

Each lagna is supposed to show slightly different things about native. Lagna, is supposedly our material plane existence, intelligence, physical body etc, Moon lagna - our emotional make-up, psychology, social standing etc. So, each 6th house will have a different meaning. I don't know exactly how to discern these meanings for other lagnas like Surya lagna, Arudha lagna etc.

However, one thing about a strong placement is that it repeats from more than one lagna. The same graha will have a connection (placement or lordship or sambandha) to a house counted from several different lagnas. Then, the likelihood of seeing/feeling that graha's influence increases. That is how I would try to differentiate between the influences of different grahas.

Note that 6th house is not solely about enemies, it could also be our own addictions and debts and disease arising from that. We have to see more than one thing to isolate one effect among many.

[surajmohith]

hai violet
thanks for ur detailed reply .thanks again.
u said from lagna ,we see material perspective of the natives .suppose take these cases
1)natural malefic placed in 6th house
2)natural benefic placed in 6th house
3)natural malefic exalted in 6th house
4)natural benefic exalted in 6th house
5)natural malefic debilliated in 6th house
6)natural benefic debilliated in 6th house
7) 6th lord exalted
6th lord debilliated
when checked from lagna can u explain what r the aspects we can judge about the Enemies in a chart
regards

[VioletTwilight]

Dear surajmohith,

Like I said above, we can't see enemies simply by looking at 6th house because there are other things too that are seen from 6th house.

Also, as said above, natural malefics when placed in 6th house will make you fight. Any house from lagna can be read as the lagna of the person corresponding to that person. Therefore, 6th house can be looked at enemy's lagna, when it has strong planets, you have strong enemies, and if it has weak planets, then you have weak enemies.

Now, natural malefic/benefic is about the comfort in their surroundings/duties. Natural malefic strong in 6th house will give strong enemies but also gives strength to native to fight back and have the right weapons to fight back. Who wins, depends on the strength of lagna lord vs. 6th. Weak one will give weak enemies and also native is not that good at fight back (but shouldn't matter due to weak enemies).

Similarly, strong natural benefic in 6th house will also give strong enemies and these enemies could be moral too. But, the native is reluctant to fight back even if they are good at the skill of fighting. The native is protected due to the moral strength of the benefic. If the lagna lord and natural benefic are at odds, the native will get in to addictions (poor will to fight). On the other hand, strong 6th house benefic can lead the native to a work that prevents conflict or disease.

I think the above covers the six cases of Natural malefic-benefic in combination of weak-medium-strong placements. When there is no graha in 6th, then the last two cases of 6th lord comes in to the picture and we see the same criteria, malefic/benefic, weakness/strength, and level of friendship with lagna lord.

Note that it takes two to fight. If you keep forgiving enemies seeing them as simply carrying out the karma for helping you to work through your past karma, there will be no one you will consider as an enemy. (See the nature of Moon, technically Moon has no enemies even though nodes can harm Moon, and other grahas consider Moon as enemy, Moon itself does not consider anybody as an enemy).

Best regards,
Violet

[VioletTwilight]

I also want to add, I can't say in general how I will see enemies. It doesn't enter my head that every chart should have enemies. But if I notice enemity between lagna lord and other grahas and those are influence by 6th house connection, then I will consider that the native is having enemies.
Hope that helps.

[surajmohith]

hai violet
so precisesely u r explaining ,thanks. suppose moon is placed in 6th house in vrishbha rashi .here moon is exalted so he is strong and also through paksha bala also he is fairly strong. he is not getting any aspect from other planet except the 6th lord who is placed in scorpio12th house.
here 6th lord is aspecting 6th house and exalted moon placed in 6th house ,is this shows one having strong enemies .can u place ur views on this .
regards

[surajmohith]

hai violet
okay thanks , i want u to see in this chart plz
6-11-1960 ; 10 :30 AM ; visakhapatnam ,andhra pradesh .
waiting for ur reply sir
regards