Saturn-moon parivartan AND mutual aspect impact

[ssid]

Dear astrologers,

In a birth chart, if Sani-Chandra are involved in a parivartan and mutual aspect does this indicate the two planets behave as if in their own houses? The more I read and investigate the more convinced I am that this could indeed happen.

For instance, in my own chart, Sani and moon are very closely linked by parivartan AND mutual aspect (2-8) I know from my own life that Sani has always behaved like in bhava 2 and chandra seems to behave like in bhava 8. I have a STRONG desire to heal - really, really want to make a career switch and enter the medical profession. If I cannot become a full-fledged doctor (surgeon) then I want to at least become a therapist and guide people medically.

But I also feel, that with such a combination and exchange Sani becomes the most important planet in the chart. Sani in 8 has dristhi on 10-2-5 but by behaving like in Bhava 2, also impacts 4-8-11.

Looking for some opinions and confirmations. Happy to provide birth details if anyone would like to take a look.

Thanks!

[shilpa]

Dear ssid,

I have your chart in my saved files....

in a parivartana...you have to see 2 things:

1) The natural relationship between planets exchanging houses

and
2) The house lordship that comes into the equation


--on first count shani moon exchnage is not good because they are bitterly innimical.......mutual exchnage produces results similar to say mutual aspect / conjunction. and in your case there is a mutual aspect on top of it.

it is the case of a strong Vish-yoga....creates mental stress / trauma/ affects ability to focus and stay calm....especially during the period of these planets.

--on second count this is an exchnage between 2-8 houses.....and any exchnage between a dusthan and non-dusthan weakens both houses.

dusthan-dusthan--good
non dusthan- non-dusthan---good to varying degrees and we have to see what are the furher sub catgories of participating houses.....but generally good.
dusthan-non dusthan------not good spoils both houses.

Offcousre there are many other parameters that affect the chart so no one whould jump up and draw conclusions based on only a parivartana yoga in the chart

regards

[ssid]

Thank you for taking the time to reply Shilpa, appreciate it. So I guess my next question is - how to contain and overcome this yoga? Are there any solutions? You will see from my chart that chandra does not have any positive aspects, but the degrees of shani dev and chandra are quite far apart. Is this redeeming? I'd like to figure out if I can lessen the negative impacts.
Thanks in advance

[shilpa]

dear ssid,

--every chart has it's redemptions........in your case it is a strong Jup.....with group of friends and from a trinal house....aspecting his own house and the lagna in Saggitarius.

it is said a planet aspecting his own house is akin to one in swakshetra. In my view not quite as strong as swakashetra but about 50 to 75% there.

--A strong Jup as the lagna Lord seated in the trinal 5th house... aspecting the lagna is a blessing in itself ....that will ensure that it pulls you out of problems unscathed...inspite of the problems that the negative areas of the chart might invoke.

--and Rahu is superstrong in the 11th an Upachaya house and seated in his own Nakshtra...very strong place for Rahu to be..making wishfullfillment component very strong in your life.....and forming a number of Raj and dhan yogas in the 5th house.....and a number of dhan-yogas on the 5-11 axis.

the point I make it is we all get our charts as a package and invariably every chart has it's share of negatives.....but we get redemption (or compenstaion) throuhg good yogas and positive area also in the chart.

--to mitigate the netaives we should pray...and in your case.....lord Mahadev's upasana in various forms such as fasting on Mondays, offering milk on shivlings, listening to shiv stutis, chanting "Om Namah shivay" etc will reduce the negativity of that yoga.

regards

[ssid]

Fabulously put. If a planet aspecting it's own house is 50% swakshetra will that not be true of shani-moon in my chart? So on the one hand the parivartana is not good but what about the drishti?

I am trying to understand this particular exchange because of my unreasonably strong desire to quit what I am doing right now and start to study for a medical profession. It seems crazy to my rational mind (it's expensive, I have a family) and still I cannot push this urge away.

I read up a bit and found that a strong moon in 8th house could give the desire to heal others.

[shilpa]

Fabulously put. If a planet aspecting it's own house is 50% swakshetra will that not be true of shani-moon in my chart? So on the one hand the parivartana is not good but what about the drishti?

I am trying to understand this particular exchange because of my unreasonably strong desire to quit what I am doing right now and start to study for a medical profession. It seems crazy to my rational mind (it's expensive, I have a family) and still I cannot push this urge away.

I read up a bit and found that a strong moon in 8th house could give the desire to heal others.

yes you are right not because of parivartana....but simply by shani and Moon aspecting their own houses standalone.....they gain strength.
but as explained before they get tainted because of the exchnage.
regards

[ssid]

So they just go back to the proverbial square one but am I right? Does that 8th house aspect indeed cause the desire to become a healer? I started to read more about this aspect because one fine day a few months ago all I could think of was that my life will be wasted if I don't become a doctor. And believe me this I'd very far away from what I do now
Thank you for your time Shilpa, very kind of you to respond in such detail.

[shilpa]

So they just go back to the proverbial square one but am I right? Does that 8th house aspect indeed cause the desire to become a healer? I started to read more about this aspect because one fine day a few months ago all I could think of was that my life will be wasted if I don't become a doctor. And believe me this I'd very far away from what I do now
Thank you for your time Shilpa, very kind of you to respond in such detail.

1)no they don't go back to square one.
there is a positive and negative factor because of that configuration acting simultaneously.

whihc is better than if it was only negative....say if Moon was in Aquarius and shani in Cancer

2)healing is not dependent on just one factor......Moon/ Ketu / Jupiter all have role to play in healing and the the more they are asosciated with each other the stronger are healing skills.

3) and if such associations are repeated in Navamsa, dasamsa, Siddhamsa, Vimsamsa it gets even stronger.

4) and houses 5,8 10 also add to healing skills especially if taken as a vocation and career

5) and now if items 2) and 3) apply to a chart and also have links with house 5 or 8 or 10 or all of these..then the healing skills are even stronger.

6) and healing doesn't mean only doctos....one can be a spiritual, psychic, psychological or divine healer.

so you can see what you are coonsidering as a single variable linear equation.......is a multi-variable complex polynomial with layers and nuances.

regards

[sreejivp]

dear shilpa ji

what would be the effect of moon and saturn conjuction in lagna in leo. In navamsha i see saturn and moon exalated.

i can see saturn exalated in D-60 too.

a insight would be useful.

[ssid]

Wow something to think about then. Maybe a different kind of healer instead of a straight up medical doctor. Thanks Shilpa.

[srcs]

@shilpa; for a successful healer etc D9/L1/dharmakarmadhipahi yoga should be strong along with 5,8&10.
Moon preferred in 8th house with strong 6th house.

[shilpa]

dear shilpa ji

what would be the effect of moon and saturn conjuction in lagna in leo. In navamsha i see saturn and moon exalated.

i can see saturn exalated in D-60 too.

a insight would be useful.

please share the date, time and place of birth

[sreejivp]

dear shilpa ji

as requested the dob details is of my son

30-may-2009
12:15pm
Alleppey, Kerala

would like to know will this conjuction effect his education and other effects

thanks.

[hari766]

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[Aravind]

[quote="shilpa"][quote="ssid"]Fabulously put. If a planet aspecting it's own house is 50% swakshetra will that not be true of shani-moon in my chart? So on the one hand the parivartana is not good but what about the drishti?

I am trying to understand this particular exchange because of my unreasonably strong desire to quit what I am doing right now and start to study for a medical profession. It seems crazy to my rational mind (it's expensive, I have a family) and still I cannot push this urge away.

I read up a bit and found that a strong moon in 8th house could give the desire to heal others.[/quote]


yes you are right not because of parivartana....but simply by shani and Moon aspecting their own houses standalone.....they gain strength.
but as explained before they get tainted because of the exchnage.
regards[/quote]

Shilpaji,

My wife's chart has a moon and Saturn mutual aspect on the 10/4 axis. How do we interpret this especially during the current Sat-Sat-Mer dasha and Sat-Sat-Ket . I believe Saturn for a Libra ascendent in general gives positive results depending on where it is placed.Would appreciate your analysis.

DOB - Oct/21//1977
Time - 19 : 22 ( 7 : 22 PM IST )
Place - Hyderabad, India

[Dilip]

Dear all pranaam

In my chart there is parivartan between saturn and moon . Cancer Saturn in 2nd house and aquriorus moon in 9th house. Currently under saturn mahadasha.
My humble request to you plz shed some light on my parivartan yog

Dob.02.02.1976
Tob-16.05
Place-sirohi , rajasthan

Regards