Some Mundane Questions and Their Ties to Astrology

[hiimnotcool]

sir, when you say all planets in 5 houses....does that refer to rahu and ketu as well?


nevermind i re-read it. all 9 planets.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

No, it excludes Rahu and Ketu.

Actually classics also say that this Yoga leads to imprisonment. Buddha was in a way imprisoned by his father into knowing the affairs of the outside world.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Okay, I see what you mean.

The Pandit has defined the Yoga taking into account Rahu and Ketu as well. Classics have typically define this category of Yoga as excluding Rahu and Ketu.

Well if you have to use your discretion to see whether planets in 3 Bhavas is more applicable to Buddha or planets in 5 Bhava. Or mabye the bad effects of Sool Yoga (planets in 3 Bhavas) is swamped by the good effects of Buddha's other Raja Yogas. Yes, I think that is it.,

Thanks for alerting me.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

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From Astrologer Vishwajiet Babbal

Vastu: Brass Lion for Power and Confidence

You can get many benefits by placing a brass lion on the floor in the North of North-East zone of the building. The first change that you will notice is the strengthening of your own personality. You will also begin to exert a stronger influence on society. When interacting with a government organization, if you feel unnecessarily intimidated, and you need to appear influential, and then use this remedy. The lion also ensures a steady flow of wealth generated through the influence of your company, business and your personality.

Interestingly, lion as a symbol has been used in a number of palaces, for example, in the Amber Fort of Jaipur (India), where it has been put in the NNE zone where the king used to overview the preparations of his soldiers.

Caution: Make sure that the lion is facing the centre of the building.

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My Interpretation (Khoo Hock Leong) for Chart that would get most benefit from the above : (I did the interpretation for Kuebera earlier on too)

This is especially useful, when Sun as a trinal lord is very strong in your chart like Shadbala, Vimsopaka Bala (divisional charts strength) and sits on the 2nd house. Better still, taking the Sun as the Ascendant after the aforesaid conditions are satisfied ie. Sun in the 2nd, must also show that the chart obtained is exceedingly strong.

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

We know that D-1, D-9 and D-60 are important charts for analysis for a person's general fortune. At first blush, the requiremnts for them to be strong, should be :

D-1 - The kendras should be free from Grahas that rule Marakas and Dusthanas. If a Graha ruling the 7th house, a maraka, is in the kendra, it should be in its own sign in the 7th. This would ward off maraka effects from the 7th.

Atmakaraka and Amatyakaraka should be in kendra too.

D-9 - Planet should be in own, friendly, Mollatrikona or exaltation signs. Natural benefics of Venus and Jupiter should have less contact with natural malefics.

Placement in trines are good but not really necessary.

D-60 - Since it shows how past karma affects our current life, the 10th house should be accentuated and get associated with the 5th and 9th lords. 9th gives Bhagya and 5th gives past life credits, Poorva Punyi.

D-10 which shows our karma in this current life and how we contribute to the society should also be good.

Again 10th house should be accentuated. Saturn (the karaka) and Venus (who gains strength in this chart) should be well placed. Mars, Mercury and the Sun should be strong too.

Some astrologers deplore the 5th house in D-10 saying that it sounds the death knell to the person where career is concerned. It is the 8th to the 10th and the latter is the primary karya house in D-10. I would say the 5th house should not be too strong, otherwise a lot of unforseen obstacles would be strewn into path of the native on his way to achieving a success in his profession. Moderate strength with natural benefics here eg. just one natural benefic, can give the necessary support towards career success.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

One way to see whether Rahu or Ketu dominates your chart is to see where the node dispositor goes. If for example, the dispositor of Rahu goes into Ketu, and there is a planet with Ketu in its own sign, the Ketu end of the spectrum dominates.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

Although planets in mutual kendra to the Moon with the Moon in kendra can take away Kemumdram Yoga, I feel that is not enough. You need to have planets next to Moon for the person to be in acceptance of others, and to find out the truth of others and to empathise with them. Planets alongside the Moon including with the Moon itself generally shows contentment to oneself, and support to others. Natural benefics placed here would be ideal.

Planets 6th to 8th of Moon shows power. If there natural benefics here, not only does it show wealth, but the power to lead others so that others would accept you willingly.

If BOTH the above is satisfied, it shows the minimum amount of decency of a human being and more. All obsessive behaviour, afflictions etc. would somehow be mitigated.

Look at Bill Gates. Although he has natural benefics 6th to 8th of Moon, but he does not have it 12th to 2nd of Moon. That shows his lack of contentment of what he has. Although it spurs him to great heights, it also means his certain lack of peace and happiness (although 4th Bhava also has to be consulted for that).

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Hock Leong

[GNE]

Sorry to interrupt the thread,
But I noticed you spoke about planets 12 and 2nd to the moon - May I ask what it would mean with
All natural benefics in 12th/2nd? (Jupiter 12th to it, and merc+Venus in 2nd. ...or vice versa).
However no planets 6/8th.
I have this, moon is also Ascendant lord.

I also have all planets taking up 5 houses (excluding Rahu/Ketu) - but would this sort of yoga also apply in the Navamsa chart?
In my Navamsa all planets(excluding Rah/Ket) take up 7 houses, I've read this is a specific yoga - however I'm not sure if it applies to divisional charts like D9.

Sorry once again for cutting this magnificent thread off, but I figure you'd have answers, instead of my posting whole new thread for the topics that have been covered here.

Thanks!

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi GNE

Okay for the Rasi Chart.

If you have all natural benefics all on both side of the Moon, rather than 6th to 8th from it, it shows there is no need for you to exert yourself to gain more. Either mentally you are contented or you are already born in a privileged position. Psychologically you are also one that is at ease with oneself and sure of yourself, and you do not seek much the opinion of others which you do not care for (if 6th to 8th has NO planets) or their opinion would only serve to debilitate your solid position (6th to 8th has natural malefics). In your case 6th to 8th has no planets so you are not much concern of other's people opinions of you.

From Parasara, planets in 5 houses read as :

Paash Yog. One born in Paash Yog will be liable to be imprisoned, be skilful in work, be deceiving in disposition, will talk much, be bereft of good qualities and will have many servants.

But note : these kind of Yogas about planets in how many hoses anywhere or starting from which house etc. are called Nabhash Yogas and usually if there are many more important Yogas in the chart, then this kind of Yoga are credited with less importance.

Your Navamsa Chart

Pleants in 7 positions read as (from Parasara) :

Veena Yog. One born in Veena Yog will be fond of songs, dance and musical instruments, be skilful, happy, wealthy and be a leader of men.

D9 can be read just like D1 as an indpendent chart using the same rules but ONLY AFTER reading the Rasi Chart and also the relative placement or absolute placement of planets holding important positions in the Rasi Chart eg. the Atmakaraka, the Atmayakraka, the relative positions in the Navamsa of the 5th and 9th lords in the Rasi etc.

The only time you can jump straight into the Navamsa without even considering the Rasi is to see their sign placement, since this overwrites whatever sign placements of the planets in the Rasi Chart.

So the answer to your question is a qualified yes, D-9 can be read just like the Rasi, independently on its own.

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

In Pancakadi Sambadha, the planets that know the objectives of the second planet, often has no fear of the second planet. This means the 1st planet (the one that knows the objectives) can often preempt what the second planet wants, although the effects are usually not malefic (at most it can be neutral only) :

So Jupiter knows the objectives of Mercury (eg. just like the teacher knows what the student thinks)
Mars knows the ojectives of the Moon (eg. the solider knows how to put someone at rest even during interrogation)
Moon knows the objectives of Mars (eg. the mind can receive feedback from actions done)
Mercury knows the objectives of Venus (eg. students are perceptive of strangers being nice to them, they know the person wants something)
Moon knows the objectives of Saturn (eg. the mind is attuned to the feelings and needs of the masses)
Mars knows the objectives of Jupiter (eg. the soldier knows the penal code)
Mars knows the objectives of the Sun (eg. the soldier knows the grandiose plan of the king)

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

Let's re-look at the nodes Rahu and Ketu.

Parasara says :

Rahu and Ketu. Rahu and Ketu give predominantly the effects, as due to their yuti with a Bhava Lord, or, as due to the Bhava they occupy.

Thus although Prasara give the lordships for Rahu and Ketu, they are only important in the delineation of yogas (not just Raja Yogas) and for the specific auspiciousness or inauspiciousness of their various periods or sub-periods.

Therfore the nodes when conjunct the planets in a chart, they take the characteristics of that planet, even if they (Rahu or Ketu) happen to be well placed by sign. That is Point (1). So if the planet is weak, they will be weak. If the planet is strong, they will be strong. So if Venus conuncts Ketu in Scorpio, even though Ketu is exalted in Scorpio and rules it, Ketu will follow the characteristics of Venus. And here Venus is at its very weakest (even weaker than Venus in Aires). The characteristics of Scorpio is intense and it is at odds with Venus light and fleeting character.

Point (2) is we judge the strength of the planet from the sign placement whenever it conjuncts a node. We do not really go into Shadbala or Vimsopaka Bala etc for the execution ofthis concept. So Venus conjunct Ketu, for example, is weak. It is highly insignificant to relate to Venus other strengths. Because the nodes are more concerned with the sign the planet is in as its strength indicator rather than anything else. This is apparent if you look at the quote above where it says the nodes is only concerned with the sign it is in or the planet it conjuncts with (and how the node judges the planet it conjuncts with is through the sign the planet is placed!!!!). Full stop.

Point (3) is more subtle. When the node is alone, it takes on the characteristic of the Bhava Lord. Bhava Lord could mean sign lord or Nakshatra Lord. But since the nodes basically have something to do with the Moon in the astronomical definition (more so than the Sun), the Nakshatra Lord is more important in such a case. In this case if the Nakshatra Lord is weak, the node suffers, otherwise the node would be very strong, regardless of the sign it isplaced. Remember the sign the node is placed is only usedful when : (1) The node exists alone in the chart and (2) For delineation of certain yogas and the auspiciousness of the nodes certain dasa or sub-dasas under their influence.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

One drawback about using the Rashi Chart and Bhava Chalit Chakra Chart is that you cannot treat the Rasi Signs as if they are houses - meaning they too covered certain mundane matters on their own aside from the Bhavas. This comes from the fact now you have to analyze Bhavas from the Bhava Chalit Chakra Chart and the Rasi from the Rasi chart.

This means for example, if in the Rasi Chart Libra is on the 5th house. Then you can say the individual treats his children on an equal footing, just like an adult, even when the children are from a very young age.

But with the two-chart method system, one Bhava can be covered with two signs, and the analysis of the sign on the house becomes more complicated. For example, now the 5th can be covered by the signs Libra and Scorpio in the Bhava Chalit Chakra Chart. Although you may say you can use the cusp lord, but somehow the overall effect is lost. The cusp lord may go to a different Bhava and may be aspected or may be together with other planets etc. so that you cannot really glean the fact that in general, the person has the inclination to treat his children like adults, his general mental framework on how he disposes affairs of the 5th house.

You can of course still fall back on the Rashi Chart which has not been thrown away......but the astrologer already has his hands full....so why would he do this extra old step?

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

From a very good astrologer Brijesh Singh Raghuvanshi :

QUOTE

But the combinations i use in detailing a chart are as:-
1. mutual aspect
2. mutual exchange(sign & nakshtra both should be considerd)
3. conjunction
4. mutual trine placement (more resultant when placed in 1st, 5th & 9th bhav in chart)
5. aspect of depositer lord (as moon deposits in capricon and saturn aspecting moon from scorpio)
6. aspect over depositer lord (as saturn in cancer aspecting moon in vigro)
some astrologers consider a combination:- as two planets aspecting each others sign.

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Notice he does not use mutual kendras. Mutual kendras give mutual support but that's it. There is actually less of a "combination of planets" unlie mutual trines, the latter of which is also used by Souvik, the founder of Ancient Indian Astrology Classes.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Another one which can use is this (according to Sarajit Poddar, it is detailed in BPHS) :

Bhava Lord A disposits Planet B and Planet B at the same time aspects the house which Bhava Lord A rules.

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Change the defintion of the last condition.

'Placement' is taken out since it is already covered in one of the conditions listed earlier.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

People always assume natural malefics like Mars give hot headedness or Saturn gives debauchery.....but that need not always be the case.

Good astrologers know that you have to take account of factors like whether they are in Digbala, involve in Raja Yogas especially with the lagna lord, are they in their own signs in kendras, aspected by benefics, are they in Dosha configurations etc.

But the one factor that most astrologers forget to take into account is the temporal significators concept.

Mars or Saturn as PK (5th planet with the highest degree) or AmK (2nd planet with the highest degree), and their conjunctions with AK (planet with the highest degree) or some other cominations (Jaimini Yogas) usually erase off the maleficence. Of course the more factors are evident in the chart indicating wiping off the maleficence of Mars or Saturn, the better.

Let's not forget the planet acting as a Yogi. A Yogi is by definition a wise man spiritually. The different planets would represent different Yogis then, and that includes Saturn and/or Mars too.

Last but not least is that Saurn and Mars offsets each other in the temperaments, although we know Saturn controls Mars/Rahu and Sun/Rahu conjunctions.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

This post is from Tarun Aggarwal.

QUOTE

Science and Sounds
Science Proves How Sound Can Change DNA
A Russian research team led by biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev has provedsound and vibration caused by sound can transform DNA.
Unlike Western scientists they refused to accept that the 90% of our DNA referred to as junk DNA held no value and in an effort to prove this they paired linguists with geneticists to study the impact of vibration and language on Human DNA.
What their research uncovered was completely unexpected -theydiscovered that human DNA stores data like a computer's memory system, with our genetic code using grammar rulesand syntax just like human language!
It appears thatall human languages are simply verbalizations of our DNAand perhaps even more astounding was the discovery by the team that living human DNA can be changed and rearranged with spoken words and phrases simplyby using the right frequency.
The work of Pjotr Garjajev and histeam provides scientific evidence as to why the mantra's and chanting used by the Yogis and Rabbi's throughout history have such a powerful and positive effect on human beings - Our DNAis inherently programmed to respond to language(which is essential sound and vibrations)

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

From an earlier post, we know that Bhava A promotes the 5th, 6th and 7th house from it. Hence the 9th house from Lagna promotes the 1st, 2nd and 3rd houses from Lagna.

Thus if we do things right in the 1st, 2nd and 3rd houses, we will let God into our lives. Meaning to say we empty our minds and then we will be filled with God.

1st house - Meeting challenges, looking things from a new perspective, unencumbered in our spiritual quest etc.

2nd house - imbibing spiritual energies in our immediate environment, have a new value system and not be heholden to anyone etc.

3rd house - Directing fresh energy to new directions, grow in strength from day to day that God is always around the corner to support your actions (3rd is the 7th to the 9th) etc.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

The following is a write-up from Murali Devarakonda :

Important in Judging Marital Relation - The So-called Kuja Dosha

The position of Venus and Mars is very important in judging marital relations. Mars whose element is fire rules marriage. Where he is badly situated or associated in the horoscope of a male or female, it follows that the sacerdotal fire gets extinguished soon. Such unfavorable situation goes under the name of Kuja Dosha.

It must be noted that in determining marriage adaptability between two parties, there are several elements of much more importance than Kuja Dosha. And the evil influences occurring from the bad position of Mars is only one of the several elements.

It is unfortunate that throughout South India especially in the Tamil areas, much is made of the so-called Kuja Dosham and this bugbear has been the means of destroying the happiness of many families by preventing marriages otherwise very eligible and anxiously wished for. So far as our humble experience goes it is only in the Kerala Sastra that mention is made of Kuja Dosha.

The stanza runs thus: Dhana vyayecha pathale jamitre chashtame kuja; Strinam bharthru vinasamcha bharthunam strivinasanam. This means: - "If Mars is in the 2nd, 12th, 4th, 7th and 8th houses in the horoscope of the female, the death of the husband will occur; similar situation in the husband's horoscope causes the death of wife."

The Lagna represents body, the Moon, mind and Venus, sexual relations. Therefore, the houses have to be reckoned with reference to all the three, viz., Lagna, Moon and Venus. The dosha (evil) is considered weak when it exists from Lagna, a little stronger from the Moon and still more powerful from Venus.
The second house signifies family; the twelfth represents comforts and pleasures of bed. The fourth rules sukha or happiness. The seventh indicates husband and eighth represents longevity of the wife or husband. Hence the position of Mars in these houses is supposed to produce this peculiar Dosham or evil.

If Kuja Dosham obtains in the horoscopes of both the bride and bridegroom, the
Dosham gets cancelled. There are, of course, many good combinations which assure marital felicity and much importance need not be given to Kuja Dosham.
Granting that Kuja Dosham is a factor whose occurrence should not be ignored, there are antidotes which are not generally known to the rank and file of Hindu astrologers. The exceptions are: Mars in the 2nd can be said to be bad provided such 2nd house is any other than Gemini and Virgo; in the 12th the Dosha is produced when such 12th house is any other than Taurus and Libra in the 4th house Mars causes Dosha provided the house falls in any sign other than Aries and Scorpio; when the 7th is other than Capricorn and Cancer, the Dosha is given rise to; and Mars gives bad effects in the 8th, provided the 8th is any other than Sagittarius and Pisces. In Aquarius and Leo, Mars produces no Dosha whatsoever. The Dosha is counteracted by the conjunction of Mars and Jupiter or Mars and the Moon; or by the presence of Jupiter or Venus in the ascendant.

Thus, it will be seen that Kuja Dosha does not deserve that consideration which is now being paid to it. In the consideration of marriage adaptability there are various other factors which should be carefully examined.

We have dealt above fairly exhaustively with the question of marriage adaptability and have tried to avoid controversial issues as the book is intended for the common man who wishes to take advantage of the astrological rules to his benefit.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

One very good astrologer pointed to me this fact.

Before even looking at anything about the Moon, whether bright or dark, waxing or waning etc.

LOOK FIRST at the dispositor of the Moon Nakshatra. If that is strong, the person can go far.

This expalins why a lot of dark Moon people are very successful including the fact why Sun conjunct Moon produces royalty notwithstanding the Moon is dark.

This astrologer is very good.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Now all these have to do with the Moon's Stanth Bala. But if you talk about Yogas about the Moon, that is a different kettle of fish altogether. Even if let's say the Moon is strong in Stanth Bala, for example, if the Moon has no planets at its side, the person would lack contentment and empathy. Planets in mutual kendra to the Moon may make him survive this defect, but would not really make him a whole person. Similarly if the Moon's Stanth Bala is weak (the other way round) but he has a Adhi Yoga of the Moon, he can be powerfully strong.

To be cont'd .............

[anugeet]

Khoo Hock Leong wrote:
> MYTH OR FACT :
>
> One very good astrologer pointed to me this fact.
>
> Before even looking at anything about the Moon, whether bright or dark, waxing or
> waning etc.
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> LOOK FIRST at the dispositor of the Moon Nakshatra. If that is strong, the person
> can go far.
>
> This expalins why a lot of dark Moon people are very successful including the fact
> why Sun conjunct Moon produces royalty notwithstanding the Moon is dark.
>
> This astrologer is very good.
>
> ANSWER
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> True
>
> Best Regards
> Hock Leong

Hi Khoo,

So a retrograde Venus in Vrishabha (mirgashira) would afford strength to a sun+moon conjunction (Krittika) also in Vrshabha? Would south node's (rohini) presence take away from this ability?

regards,
anugeet

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Anugeet

Venus and Moon are well placed in Taurus. Ketu in Taurus only enhances them.

Sun+Moon gives royalty.

Sun, however, is enemy to Venus and is in his enemy sign but then Venus being the dispositor of this whole conjunction of planetary bodies, calls the shots.

I would say the conjunction is strong, but is more of a feminine nature. For example, the person may be tops in the fashion industry, a more feminine industry.

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MYTH OR FACT :

I am going to discuss two concepts in this post. The second concept discussion does refer to the ideas of the first concept

FIRST CONCEPT

Signs are styles and houses as we know from an earlier post of mine. Now the signs Cancer, Virgo, Libra, Sagittarius are special because both the natural ruler and the karaka (or backup karaka) are ONE AND THE SAME planet. (In fact Cancer is even special because Moon is digbala there).

These signs are synonymous AS IF THAT PLANET PLACED IN THAT HOUSE where the sign is overlaying that particular house. So if you have Libra on the 11th house, it is as if Venus is placed in the 11th house. So if you have Sagittarius on the 6th house, it is as if Jupiter is placed on the 6th house.

This concept is important and we will refer to it when we discuss the 2nd concept in this post.

SECOND CONCEPT

2nd to Sun is an auspicious point. If a planet is placed there it is called Vesi Yoga. 2nd to Sun signifies the right eye. It is as if there is a higher authority keeping a check on you so that you will act according to dharma. You will also never be down and out.

Now we know that Venus rules prosperity and Jupiter fortune and abundance. Although Venus gives us everything on a high prosperous note, Jupiter PROMISES you that you can get more if you direct your effort to it. That is what is meant by the ocean of abundance, the sign Pisces which Jupiter rules. It is also what is meant by fortune where you go from place to place to stake your fortune, the sign Sagittarius which the planet rules.

With fortune and abundance in his bag, Jupiter goes on to leave his imprint on the various houses relative to it (that is taking Jupiter as the Ascendant) and the 2nd to Jupiter denotes WEALTH.

Wealth is synonymous to abundance. That is why the 2nd to Jupiter is so powerful. (12th to Venus gives prosperity).

Now we see why Jupiter in Capricorn, although in its fall, gives WEALTH, although it also gives health related problems eg. Meryl Streep has this placement in the 7th house.

FIRSTLY, Jupiter in Capricorn is in a sign that comes AFTER Sagittarius. And we know Sagittarius signifies Jupiter from the first concept we discuss above. So Jupiter is in a position of welath by sign placement ie. stanth bala. And Jupiter is a karaka for wealth. So it is wealth upon wealth.

SECONDLY, Jupiter being in Capricorn means that Aquarius would be also in 2nd to Jupiter's position. And Aquarius signifies gains. So another wealth effect.

THIRDLY, ANY Bhava or sign which is 2nd to Jupiter in the chart, becomes very well fortified. Like Jupiter in the 8th makes the 9th very strong. This is especially so if Jupiter is also ruling the 9th at the same time because in this case, Jupiter would be like 12th to the 9th so that in addition, Jupiter gives behind the scene protection to the 9th. This has been acknowledged by the Ratnakara classic. It also shows why Capricorn is in general a beneficial sign because it comes after Sagittarius. Any house with Capricron overlaying it would also flourish.

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Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Although Tropical Astrology uses Tropical Signs but they also attach Capricorn with the abundance label of "Horn of Cornucopia or Plenty".

The same two concepts above also shows why Venus in Scorpio gives losts ofmoney and Moonin Leo gives wealth. Scorpio comes after Libra and 2nd to Venus shows money and Venus is the karaka for money. Leo comes after Cancer and 2nd to Moon shows wealth and Moon is the karaka for wealth also besides Jupiter.