Many astrological articles in this forum state that for a male native Venus stands for both "marriage" and "wife". But for a female native Venus stands for "marriage" and Jupiter for "husband". Logic explained by astrologers is that Jupiter stands for "Guru" - the teacher, the elderly, the wise and learned. Since more often than not husbands are elder and more learned and wiser than wives, Jupiter is regarded as the significator of husband in a female's chart.
But in some rare exceptional case if a wife is a few years or months elder and more learned and have much higher income than her husband, does Jupiter still stand as the significator of husband in her chart? Or here Jupiter only depicts the lady's parents, teachers, guru, higher authority people at her profession etc, but not husband?? In this case (like in a male horoscope) does Venus stand as the significator of both marriage and husband to the lady and Jupiter is in no way related to her husband? Or Jupiter ALWAYS represents a woman's husband irrespective of her husband's age, wisdom and income?
Learned people of the forum please share your views.
---Mr. P. Dutta
Lady elder than husband: Does Jupiter represent her husband?
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Thanks for your reply Swamycool ji.
But Jupiter represents only 1st husband? Then which planet denotes 2nd (or subsequent) husbands of a lady? Will it be different?
---Mr. P. Dutta
But Jupiter represents only 1st husband? Then which planet denotes 2nd (or subsequent) husbands of a lady? Will it be different?
---Mr. P. Dutta
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Saturn represents second husband.
A very condensed article from Barbara Pijan Lama
http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/marriage/bCompati.htm
It will answer a lot of questions.
I found it very enlightening. The issue is multiple books have the knowledge spread across multiple sutras/shlokas and chapters.
She quotes the sources and brings them all togather.
A very condensed article from Barbara Pijan Lama
http://www.barbarapijan.com/bpa/marriage/bCompati.htm
It will answer a lot of questions.
I found it very enlightening. The issue is multiple books have the knowledge spread across multiple sutras/shlokas and chapters.
She quotes the sources and brings them all togather.
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Pl understand, each writers has told in different ways but we cannot totally deny what they said. Some time it may become true in our nithya (routine, daily) jeevana, because they predicted from their divya drishti and extraordinary jnana. Few of them are as follows:-
For Stree:-
Kuja and Ravi ===Pathikaraka (That is why Mangal Karak (kuja) should not be in amangala sthana-ashtama sthana.He is Yuddha Graha, kalaha graha. Even Shani is afraid of him and cannot stand infront of him.
Only Guru can pecifye him. But Guru should not be aspected by Kuja. Kujas Kroora phala will increase if Kuja aspects Guru.
Thus kuja is always having upper hand in hatya , himsa.
Soorya is athyantha prakashitha graha, Raj graha. But some times this Kuja ,don’t even hesitate to hit Soorya also.
Some times all grahas will become helpless / bala heena in front of Kuja. He is yuddha karaka, yuddha graha, swatantra graha, he will make other graha weak if they are in front of him, he is having the saamarthya to control other grahs in his fist. Kshatreeya guna.
(That is why it is said No Kuja – No Graha yuddha)-- said by Kaalidasa
He made the prathishtapana of Angarakeshwara Linga at Prabhasa kshetra and undertook the penance for many years only to get the vara of ---angryness, excitement, raag-dwesh, prapanch ( universe ) naasha adhikaar .
Kuja is also vaidavya karaka. Among all malefic grahas , kuja is most powerful. To spoil sansaar sukh of stree ,giving tension to stree, getting satisfaction from this – kuja is more kroora than Shani.This is said by Kalidasa in Uttara Kalamritha. Therefore, one should carefully see Kuja dosha , Shani dosha while matching the charts.)
Guru==== also considered as significator of spouse in female horoscope as per Brighu Naadi.
Ravi=== Father-inlaw Karaka
Pathi sukha karaka=== Ravi. As per the bala bala of Ravi one should say the sukh from pathi to sathi.
In case graha is not there in sapthama sthana, then the girl will get her husband whose features will be similar to rashiadipathi of Ravi.
Mangalya karaka === Shukra
Maha dosha===Shani + Shukra yoga
Kuja + Chandra yoga in stree jataka will not bring shubha phala. One should be careful in match making when he finds Kuja + Chandra yoga in stree jataka. Many times this yoga will have a devastating effect on marital happiness in stree jataka.
From 8th === Mangalya vichaar
From 7th ===daampathya sukh, pathi vichaar
From lagna===Soundarya
From 9th ==== Puthra praapthi vichhar should be seen.
Sapthama ==Vivah sthana.
Lagna=== fathers house
Sapthama===Husbands house, house after marriage.
Sapthama Bava==== Pathi laxana, his attitudes, behaviours ( Many ways told by many grantha karthas )
For Stree:-
Kuja and Ravi ===Pathikaraka (That is why Mangal Karak (kuja) should not be in amangala sthana-ashtama sthana.He is Yuddha Graha, kalaha graha. Even Shani is afraid of him and cannot stand infront of him.
Only Guru can pecifye him. But Guru should not be aspected by Kuja. Kujas Kroora phala will increase if Kuja aspects Guru.
Thus kuja is always having upper hand in hatya , himsa.
Soorya is athyantha prakashitha graha, Raj graha. But some times this Kuja ,don’t even hesitate to hit Soorya also.
Some times all grahas will become helpless / bala heena in front of Kuja. He is yuddha karaka, yuddha graha, swatantra graha, he will make other graha weak if they are in front of him, he is having the saamarthya to control other grahs in his fist. Kshatreeya guna.
(That is why it is said No Kuja – No Graha yuddha)-- said by Kaalidasa
He made the prathishtapana of Angarakeshwara Linga at Prabhasa kshetra and undertook the penance for many years only to get the vara of ---angryness, excitement, raag-dwesh, prapanch ( universe ) naasha adhikaar .
Kuja is also vaidavya karaka. Among all malefic grahas , kuja is most powerful. To spoil sansaar sukh of stree ,giving tension to stree, getting satisfaction from this – kuja is more kroora than Shani.This is said by Kalidasa in Uttara Kalamritha. Therefore, one should carefully see Kuja dosha , Shani dosha while matching the charts.)
Guru==== also considered as significator of spouse in female horoscope as per Brighu Naadi.
Ravi=== Father-inlaw Karaka
Pathi sukha karaka=== Ravi. As per the bala bala of Ravi one should say the sukh from pathi to sathi.
In case graha is not there in sapthama sthana, then the girl will get her husband whose features will be similar to rashiadipathi of Ravi.
Mangalya karaka === Shukra
Maha dosha===Shani + Shukra yoga
Kuja + Chandra yoga in stree jataka will not bring shubha phala. One should be careful in match making when he finds Kuja + Chandra yoga in stree jataka. Many times this yoga will have a devastating effect on marital happiness in stree jataka.
From 8th === Mangalya vichaar
From 7th ===daampathya sukh, pathi vichaar
From lagna===Soundarya
From 9th ==== Puthra praapthi vichhar should be seen.
Sapthama ==Vivah sthana.
Lagna=== fathers house
Sapthama===Husbands house, house after marriage.
Sapthama Bava==== Pathi laxana, his attitudes, behaviours ( Many ways told by many grantha karthas )
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For Purusha:-
Shukra === Pathni karaka
Shukra , Chandra === Mother-in law karaka, Patni karaka also. If there is no graha in sapthama sthana in purusha jataka, then that purusha will get his wife who have the features similar to rashiadipathi of Chandra.
Maha dosha ===Ravi+ Shukra yoga.
Kaama karaka === Chandra
Stree Sukh karaka=== Chandra ( importance of Chandra is much in Purusha jataka )
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Ravi === Stree dweshi karaka, vichhedana karaka 90% of Vichhedana happens because of Ravi in sapthama sthana. All other graha may provide separation (not divorce), no mutual consensus, bhinnabipraaya, no daampathya sukh or bodily defect.
Shukra === Pathni karaka
Shukra , Chandra === Mother-in law karaka, Patni karaka also. If there is no graha in sapthama sthana in purusha jataka, then that purusha will get his wife who have the features similar to rashiadipathi of Chandra.
Maha dosha ===Ravi+ Shukra yoga.
Kaama karaka === Chandra
Stree Sukh karaka=== Chandra ( importance of Chandra is much in Purusha jataka )
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Ravi === Stree dweshi karaka, vichhedana karaka 90% of Vichhedana happens because of Ravi in sapthama sthana. All other graha may provide separation (not divorce), no mutual consensus, bhinnabipraaya, no daampathya sukh or bodily defect.
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For both ;_
Shukra is utmost important because he is Marital happiness karaka, Daampathya jeevana karaka, Daampathya sukh karak. Kaama karaka (Pl understand, not only the sexual pleasure)
Chandra is very important for both. To whom so ever, if Chandra is nirbala, the jataka will have to face lot of tensions in his daily life/jeevana. In a way it is an eratic jeevana. Day income-day jeevana like a daily wages worker. In otherwords , no work no wages/income. Happy in day time but unhappy in night or night time sukh but lot of tensions in day . That is why in jyothish shastra , Chandra is called as Nithya jeevana karaka ( Nithya = Daily, every day )
Chandra=== Mother, mothers systers,
Lagna=== my birth place
4th house===Got this Shareera from mother
7th house=== joining the wife sthana
5th house==== Through poorva punya phala , getting the child through wife
9th house=== Father who gave janma to us, with this prabhava one day we will also become a father of our child.
10th house=== place where living together with father, mother, pathni , puthra. Sthana where we live , earn papa-punya , get entwined with karma and the place where we do our karma.
4th house== Mothers sthana
4th to 4th=== Grand mother(7th house)
Again 4th to 4th==== Grand grand mother(10th house )
In the same way to father===== 9th, 9th to 9th( 5th house ), again 9th to 9th ( 1st house ).
Chandra- Shukra ==== mother-inlaws systers
Chandra-Shukra- Rahu====== childrens of mothers systers
Chandra- Shukra-Shani====grand father from mothers side , his younger bros
Stree brathra karakas=== Chandra- Shukra.
Rahu-Shukra-Chandra====Stree karaks
Shukra=== Uttama stree
Rahu=== Neecha Stree.
Chandra+ Kuja ==== in Mesha , Vrishchika, Makara--- no sukh throught the life
Chandra+Shani==== in Tula, Makara, Kumba------------------do-----------------------
Shukra is utmost important because he is Marital happiness karaka, Daampathya jeevana karaka, Daampathya sukh karak. Kaama karaka (Pl understand, not only the sexual pleasure)
Chandra is very important for both. To whom so ever, if Chandra is nirbala, the jataka will have to face lot of tensions in his daily life/jeevana. In a way it is an eratic jeevana. Day income-day jeevana like a daily wages worker. In otherwords , no work no wages/income. Happy in day time but unhappy in night or night time sukh but lot of tensions in day . That is why in jyothish shastra , Chandra is called as Nithya jeevana karaka ( Nithya = Daily, every day )
Chandra=== Mother, mothers systers,
Lagna=== my birth place
4th house===Got this Shareera from mother
7th house=== joining the wife sthana
5th house==== Through poorva punya phala , getting the child through wife
9th house=== Father who gave janma to us, with this prabhava one day we will also become a father of our child.
10th house=== place where living together with father, mother, pathni , puthra. Sthana where we live , earn papa-punya , get entwined with karma and the place where we do our karma.
4th house== Mothers sthana
4th to 4th=== Grand mother(7th house)
Again 4th to 4th==== Grand grand mother(10th house )
In the same way to father===== 9th, 9th to 9th( 5th house ), again 9th to 9th ( 1st house ).
Chandra- Shukra ==== mother-inlaws systers
Chandra-Shukra- Rahu====== childrens of mothers systers
Chandra- Shukra-Shani====grand father from mothers side , his younger bros
Stree brathra karakas=== Chandra- Shukra.
Rahu-Shukra-Chandra====Stree karaks
Shukra=== Uttama stree
Rahu=== Neecha Stree.
Chandra+ Kuja ==== in Mesha , Vrishchika, Makara--- no sukh throught the life
Chandra+Shani==== in Tula, Makara, Kumba------------------do-----------------------
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Graha----------Poorna bala rashi-------------Ardha bala rashi
Kuja-------------------------- Vrischika--------------------------------- Mesha
Shukra---------------------- Tula--------------------------------------- Vrishbha
Budha----------------------- Mithuna---------------------------------- Kanya
Guru----------------------- Dhanu-------------------------------------- Meena
Shani----------------------- Makara --------------------------------------- kumba
Ravi------------------------ Simha----------------------------------------------------
Chandra------------------- Karka-----------------------------------------------------
Graha Tatwas:-
Agni tatwa – jala tatwa==== Virodha tatwa===== Shnatru- Kashta jeevana
Akaash- Vaayu===========virodha tatwa====== Shatru - Dukha jeevana
Vaayu—Prathvi========== Virodh tatwa======= Shatru - Asahakaar jeevana
Prathvi—jala tatwa======= Preethi -Ordinary jeevana, Samaanya jeevana
Jala tatwa—Akaash tatwa=== Tripthi-Excellent jeevana
Prithvi- Akaash tatwa=== Sama- ups and Down jeevana , eratic jeevana
Agni - Akaash tatwa==== sama- Uttama jeevana
Jala- Vaayu tatwa======= Minor ups and down jeevana.
( mostly used in Prashna Shastra )
Agni rashi/ tatwa:-
Mesha rashi=== Swarthi
Simha========Ahambhaav
Dhanu======== Helping nature, paropakaari
Prithvi rashi:/ tatwa
Vrishabha==== working always
Kanya======== Daasya jeevana, slavery
Makara====== Daasya vritthi, working like slaves
Vaayu tatwa/ rashi:-
Mithuna==== Vishesh intelligence
Tula======= Vyapaar jeevana
Kumba===== Vijnani jeevana
Jala rashi/ tatwa:-
Karka=== Hose, property, sites vichaar
Vrischika=== Arogya vichaar
Meena ==== Prayaana chinthana.
( mostly used in Prashna phala )
As per Parashara:-
Ravi=== pitr karaka for those born during day time
Shani===== Pitr karaka for those born in night.
Shukra==== mother—day birth
Moon===== mother—night birth
Kuja-------------------------- Vrischika--------------------------------- Mesha
Shukra---------------------- Tula--------------------------------------- Vrishbha
Budha----------------------- Mithuna---------------------------------- Kanya
Guru----------------------- Dhanu-------------------------------------- Meena
Shani----------------------- Makara --------------------------------------- kumba
Ravi------------------------ Simha----------------------------------------------------
Chandra------------------- Karka-----------------------------------------------------
Graha Tatwas:-
Agni tatwa – jala tatwa==== Virodha tatwa===== Shnatru- Kashta jeevana
Akaash- Vaayu===========virodha tatwa====== Shatru - Dukha jeevana
Vaayu—Prathvi========== Virodh tatwa======= Shatru - Asahakaar jeevana
Prathvi—jala tatwa======= Preethi -Ordinary jeevana, Samaanya jeevana
Jala tatwa—Akaash tatwa=== Tripthi-Excellent jeevana
Prithvi- Akaash tatwa=== Sama- ups and Down jeevana , eratic jeevana
Agni - Akaash tatwa==== sama- Uttama jeevana
Jala- Vaayu tatwa======= Minor ups and down jeevana.
( mostly used in Prashna Shastra )
Agni rashi/ tatwa:-
Mesha rashi=== Swarthi
Simha========Ahambhaav
Dhanu======== Helping nature, paropakaari
Prithvi rashi:/ tatwa
Vrishabha==== working always
Kanya======== Daasya jeevana, slavery
Makara====== Daasya vritthi, working like slaves
Vaayu tatwa/ rashi:-
Mithuna==== Vishesh intelligence
Tula======= Vyapaar jeevana
Kumba===== Vijnani jeevana
Jala rashi/ tatwa:-
Karka=== Hose, property, sites vichaar
Vrischika=== Arogya vichaar
Meena ==== Prayaana chinthana.
( mostly used in Prashna phala )
As per Parashara:-
Ravi=== pitr karaka for those born during day time
Shani===== Pitr karaka for those born in night.
Shukra==== mother—day birth
Moon===== mother—night birth
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I made some corrections now, in my 1st and 3rd posts..
Kindly read again
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Kindly read again
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A good question raised by Anurada madam.
How come Kuja is balishta in Vrischika instead of Mesha its moola trikona rashi.?
Ans:- Kuja is balishta in Vrischika rashi even though Mesha is its Moola trikona rashi. --- said in Agastyar Naadi.
When the graha is in its bhagamsha , that graha will have poorna bala. This is usually said in jyothish shastra as every one knows . This we call it as Moola trikona .This is stoola parichaya.
But in Agastyar Naadi , this has been told very briefly.
Kuja in Mesha:- ( 0 to 12 degree Moola Trikona ):-
Between 0 to 3.20 degree:-Kuja will have poorna Trikona Bala in Mesha Rashi.---- Here Kuja will provide Vishamaya jeevana.
Between 3-20 degree to 6-40 degree, ---- the native will suffer loss from ox, cow or any animal which have the horns.
Between 6-40 to 10 degree. --- native will suffer from Jala sambandha dosha.
Between 10 to 12 degree ---- ---- the native will suffer too much of problems/ vipareetha kashta.
For kuja Dosha – Agastyar naadi is very helpful. In this grantha it is told that Kuja===
Uccha --- Makara
Karka---- Neecha
Dhanu- Simha- Kumba- Meena====Shatru
Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and kanya === Mitra to kuja.
Vrishabha Chandra:-
3-20 degree to 6 40 degree------- vishesha shrama jeevana
Simha Ravi:-
6-40 to 13-40 and 13-40 to 16-40 to 20 degree --- Ravi will lose his swa kshetra bala. That is why even if in Trikona rashi , the native may not come up .
Kanya Budha:-
16 to 20 degree------swa trikona---- kashta jeevana, b ut the native will get suitable time to improve.
Tula Shukra:-
3-20 to 6-40 degree----- shrama jeevi
Dhanu Guru:-
0 to 3-20 degree------ vipareetha shrama, tension, avamaan jeevana
Kumba Shani :-
3-20 to 6-40 degree----- Kashta jeevana.
Why Makara is poorna bala rashi for Shani instead of kumba – Moola trikona rashi? :-
Bagwan Shani got this Makara Rashi as Vara Prasad from Jaganmatha, that is why Makara rashi is more priya to Shani than moola trikona rashi Kumba. Shani Dev is more happy in this rashi.---- said in Devi Bhagawatha.
In Agastyar Naadi---- Makara is the Moola trikona for Shani.
How come Kuja is balishta in Vrischika instead of Mesha its moola trikona rashi.?
Ans:- Kuja is balishta in Vrischika rashi even though Mesha is its Moola trikona rashi. --- said in Agastyar Naadi.
When the graha is in its bhagamsha , that graha will have poorna bala. This is usually said in jyothish shastra as every one knows . This we call it as Moola trikona .This is stoola parichaya.
But in Agastyar Naadi , this has been told very briefly.
Kuja in Mesha:- ( 0 to 12 degree Moola Trikona ):-
Between 0 to 3.20 degree:-Kuja will have poorna Trikona Bala in Mesha Rashi.---- Here Kuja will provide Vishamaya jeevana.
Between 3-20 degree to 6-40 degree, ---- the native will suffer loss from ox, cow or any animal which have the horns.
Between 6-40 to 10 degree. --- native will suffer from Jala sambandha dosha.
Between 10 to 12 degree ---- ---- the native will suffer too much of problems/ vipareetha kashta.
For kuja Dosha – Agastyar naadi is very helpful. In this grantha it is told that Kuja===
Uccha --- Makara
Karka---- Neecha
Dhanu- Simha- Kumba- Meena====Shatru
Vrishabha, Mithuna, Tula and kanya === Mitra to kuja.
Vrishabha Chandra:-
3-20 degree to 6 40 degree------- vishesha shrama jeevana
Simha Ravi:-
6-40 to 13-40 and 13-40 to 16-40 to 20 degree --- Ravi will lose his swa kshetra bala. That is why even if in Trikona rashi , the native may not come up .
Kanya Budha:-
16 to 20 degree------swa trikona---- kashta jeevana, b ut the native will get suitable time to improve.
Tula Shukra:-
3-20 to 6-40 degree----- shrama jeevi
Dhanu Guru:-
0 to 3-20 degree------ vipareetha shrama, tension, avamaan jeevana
Kumba Shani :-
3-20 to 6-40 degree----- Kashta jeevana.
Why Makara is poorna bala rashi for Shani instead of kumba – Moola trikona rashi? :-
Bagwan Shani got this Makara Rashi as Vara Prasad from Jaganmatha, that is why Makara rashi is more priya to Shani than moola trikona rashi Kumba. Shani Dev is more happy in this rashi.---- said in Devi Bhagawatha.
In Agastyar Naadi---- Makara is the Moola trikona for Shani.
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Rao Ji,
You have just turned our world topsy turvy.
Is it ok to mix nadi system with Rishi Parashar's system?
You have just turned our world topsy turvy.
Is it ok to mix nadi system with Rishi Parashar's system?
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Grishneshwarji
I am Sorry.
Agastyar Naadi grantha is used mainly for Kuja Dosha and its paddathi is quite different.
Sir i quoted this only for your additional knowledge and information and nothing else.
I am sorry again
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I am Sorry.
Agastyar Naadi grantha is used mainly for Kuja Dosha and its paddathi is quite different.
Sir i quoted this only for your additional knowledge and information and nothing else.
I am sorry again
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Rao ji,
Please do not be sorry.
You are doing a voluntary service with no expectations.
You have clarified where to apply this and this more than enough.
I only have high respect for you. Knowledge and humility is a rare combination.
I am sure all members really appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share it.
I read all your posts keenly.
Please do not be sorry.
You are doing a voluntary service with no expectations.
You have clarified where to apply this and this more than enough.
I only have high respect for you. Knowledge and humility is a rare combination.
I am sure all members really appreciate your knowledge and willingness to share it.
I read all your posts keenly.
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Thanx Grishneshwarji-----Kindly go through this
Purusha jataka ( from husbands jataka ):-
Ravi:-
Wifes father, father-inlaw
Father- inlaws Brothers
Shukra:-
Pathni
Wifes mother, mother-inlaw
Dampathya sukh
Veerya vriddhi
Kuja:-
Mangalya karaka
Chandra:-
Wifes susters
Budha:-
Wifes brother
Mothers brother
Guru:-
Elders at home
Purohiths of our house
Cows, calfs etc
Rahu:-
Wifes grand mother
Wifes great –grand mother
Grama, city where wifes place situates
Ketu:-
Gods in Wifes house
Wifes house Kuala devatha
Wifes house Parihara Devatha( in kannada we say Hareke devaru or Offering to particular gods )
Wifes grand father
Wifes great–grand father and their vamsha, prestige, gourav
Sapthama sthana:-
Wifes house and its laxana
Wifes parivaar
Wifes property and status.
About Stree Jataka ----- we shall see tomorrow
Purusha jataka ( from husbands jataka ):-
Ravi:-
Wifes father, father-inlaw
Father- inlaws Brothers
Shukra:-
Pathni
Wifes mother, mother-inlaw
Dampathya sukh
Veerya vriddhi
Kuja:-
Mangalya karaka
Chandra:-
Wifes susters
Budha:-
Wifes brother
Mothers brother
Guru:-
Elders at home
Purohiths of our house
Cows, calfs etc
Rahu:-
Wifes grand mother
Wifes great –grand mother
Grama, city where wifes place situates
Ketu:-
Gods in Wifes house
Wifes house Kuala devatha
Wifes house Parihara Devatha( in kannada we say Hareke devaru or Offering to particular gods )
Wifes grand father
Wifes great–grand father and their vamsha, prestige, gourav
Sapthama sthana:-
Wifes house and its laxana
Wifes parivaar
Wifes property and status.
About Stree Jataka ----- we shall see tomorrow
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Stree ( Wifes ) Jataka:-
Ravi:-
Husbands father
Fatherin- laws brothers
Chandra:-
Husbands systers (both elder and younger)
Kuja :-
Pathi karaka
Budha:-
Husbands brothers ( elder and younger )
Guru:-
Elders in husbands house
Cows and calfs at husbands house
Treasury, dhaanya, essential things storage room at husbands house
Shukra :-
Husbands mother
Motherin- laws systers
Daampathya sukh
Yoni
Sowndarya
Haava-bhaava, vaiyaara, attitude or sexy attitudes
Shani:-
For purusha and stree---- udyog, jeevanopaaya ( ways and means of living ), saarthakatha ( worth living), aim in life, sukh-dukh, ayush
Rahu;-
Husbands grand mother
Husbands great- grand mother
Foreign tour, visit
Friendship with unknown persons
Bhaya ( fear),
Grama , City and its developments
Ketu:-
Fatherin – laws father,-- husbands grand father
Husbands great - grand father and their Gods at home
Their Kula devatha, Offering deity, their grama devatha,
Moksha vichaar
Vedantha jnana
Mantra shakthi upasana
Saadhana
Kantaks
Dangers
Drishti, abhichaars,shoonyas, omens, abhichaars from different castes,
Marana bhaya( fear of death )
Chora baadha
Visha prayog
All types of pramaads.
Ravi:-
Husbands father
Fatherin- laws brothers
Chandra:-
Husbands systers (both elder and younger)
Kuja :-
Pathi karaka
Budha:-
Husbands brothers ( elder and younger )
Guru:-
Elders in husbands house
Cows and calfs at husbands house
Treasury, dhaanya, essential things storage room at husbands house
Shukra :-
Husbands mother
Motherin- laws systers
Daampathya sukh
Yoni
Sowndarya
Haava-bhaava, vaiyaara, attitude or sexy attitudes
Shani:-
For purusha and stree---- udyog, jeevanopaaya ( ways and means of living ), saarthakatha ( worth living), aim in life, sukh-dukh, ayush
Rahu;-
Husbands grand mother
Husbands great- grand mother
Foreign tour, visit
Friendship with unknown persons
Bhaya ( fear),
Grama , City and its developments
Ketu:-
Fatherin – laws father,-- husbands grand father
Husbands great - grand father and their Gods at home
Their Kula devatha, Offering deity, their grama devatha,
Moksha vichaar
Vedantha jnana
Mantra shakthi upasana
Saadhana
Kantaks
Dangers
Drishti, abhichaars,shoonyas, omens, abhichaars from different castes,
Marana bhaya( fear of death )
Chora baadha
Visha prayog
All types of pramaads.
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Marriage is hundred years anubandha, anyonyatha, sambandha
Whatever the reason , there should not be a break in marriage, should not be an untimely death or any other dangers. They should not be santhana heena.. Both should live happily
This is the inner meaning of marriage
In case there is any short comings in matching the charts, then the DOSHA will touch to the purohiths or Jyothishi who made the alliance or matching the charts. With this , we ( jyothishi) also have to experience the phala at the end of our life and thus we will become the target of their shraap and their pain.
Therefore, we (jyothishi) should carefully analyse and match the charts so that our Pitr Devathas will bless us and we will get the ashirvaad from Vedha Maatha Gayathri Devi. This will in future will bring success and moksha to us.
Whatever the reason , there should not be a break in marriage, should not be an untimely death or any other dangers. They should not be santhana heena.. Both should live happily
This is the inner meaning of marriage
In case there is any short comings in matching the charts, then the DOSHA will touch to the purohiths or Jyothishi who made the alliance or matching the charts. With this , we ( jyothishi) also have to experience the phala at the end of our life and thus we will become the target of their shraap and their pain.
Therefore, we (jyothishi) should carefully analyse and match the charts so that our Pitr Devathas will bless us and we will get the ashirvaad from Vedha Maatha Gayathri Devi. This will in future will bring success and moksha to us.
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Dear Srinivas ji,
From all your lengthy discussions above, I got the following gist (which is related to the main question of this thread):
According to your opinion, Kuja represents a lady's husband, and not Jupiter as all of us used to think till now !!
(I am really shocked!!)
Correct me if I am wrong.
---Mr. P. Dutta
From all your lengthy discussions above, I got the following gist (which is related to the main question of this thread):
According to your opinion, Kuja represents a lady's husband, and not Jupiter as all of us used to think till now !!
(I am really shocked!!) Correct me if I am wrong.
---Mr. P. Dutta
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P. Dutta wrote:Dear Srinivas ji,
From all your lengthy discussions above, I got the following gist (which is related to the main question of this thread):
According to your opinion, Kuja represents a lady's husband, and not Jupiter as all of us used to think till now !!
Correct me if I am wrong.
---Mr. P. Dutta
Dear Sir,
Why Kuja is considered as Pathi Karaka in stree jataka?.What about Guru?
Kuja Dosha is one of the deadliest dosha among doshas. Generally if the Kuja in 1-2-4-7-8-12 is considered as kuja dosha.
Kuja will be more malefic if he is in 2-7th house in Purusha jataka and 4-8-12th house in Stree jataka.
Kuja is important for both stree and purusha jataka for marital happiness because he is Mangalya karaka in Purusha jataka and Pathi karaka in stree jataka. Pl understand he is athyantha kroora graha among the grahas next to Ketu.
So from the above you have understood the importance of Kuja in both the jatakas for mariatal happiness
Now we shall see this in an eg:-.
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Now we shall see this with an eg:-.
Date of Birth:- 25-08-73/ 9.14am/ Mangalore
Lagnadipathi Budha in Papa Kartari yoga
Rahu vedha to Chandra nakshatra
Chandra is with Shani and Ketu----- Chandra is mano karaka , Shani is Jeevanopaaya karaka, Ketu is aghaath karaka. Therefore both mind ( manassu ) and jeevana is spoiled.
Lagnadipathi Budha made the Jataka nirbala because Lagnadipathi and udyog sthanadipathi Budha is in Papa kartari and neecha in navamsha. He lost his Lagna bala in this jataka.
Yoga karaka Shukra is neecha in lagna and in papa graha madya.Therefore Shukra also lost his yoga bala in lagna.
Lagna is Shareera , Shukra is sukh karak, kalatra karak---- because of shareera shrama, jataka lost her kalatra sukh
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Lagnadipathi Budha in Papa Kartari yoga
Rahu vedha to Chandra nakshatra
Chandra is with Shani and Ketu----- Chandra is mano karaka , Shani is Jeevanopaaya karaka, Ketu is aghaath karaka. Therefore both mind ( manassu ) and jeevana is spoiled.
Lagnadipathi Budha made the Jataka nirbala because Lagnadipathi and udyog sthanadipathi Budha is in Papa kartari and neecha in navamsha. He lost his Lagna bala in this jataka.
Yoga karaka Shukra is neecha in lagna and in papa graha madya.Therefore Shukra also lost his yoga bala in lagna.
Lagna is Shareera , Shukra is sukh karak, kalatra karak---- because of shareera shrama, jataka lost her kalatra sukh
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Shukra in Hastha ( Chandra ) nakshatra, nakshatradipathi Chandra in dashama sthana – digbala shoonya.
Therefore Shukra also lost his digbala in lagna.With this, jataka lost completely kalatra sukh.
Therefore Shukra also lost his digbala in lagna.With this, jataka lost completely kalatra sukh.
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Let us see how the vaidavya propped up in this jataka? Within 1year 8 months of her marriage jataka lost her husband.
Sapthama vivah sthana
Sthanadipathi Guru is neecha, in papa rashi and in navamsha also.
Sapthama sthana and Sapthamadipathi Guru in papa graha madya.
With this 2nd house also got spoiled.( Kutumba sthana ), thus jataka lost her kalatra ( husband ) and vivah sukh.Kuja aspects 2nd house from ashtama sthana- Mangalaya sthana as Kuja Dosha Karak.
For Stree --- pathi sukh karak Ravi is in 12th both in rashi and navamsha chakra. So Ravi is nirbala.
Pathi karaka Kuja is in 8th in rashi kundali and neecha in navamsha.
With this Pathi Sukh ( Ravi )and Pathi karaka ( kuja ) both are lost to this jataka.
Mangalya karaka Shukra is neecha and nirbala. With this Mangalya is slipped away from the neck of this stree.
Even though Guru aspects Lagna and lagnadipathi, it has not helped jataka much. Reason is –Guru is aspecting lagna and lagnadipathi as Bhadakadipathi and Neecha. Thus Guru became helpless in this jataka.
SINCE GURU IS JEEVA KARAKA, JATAKA LOST THE JEEVA SHAKTHI TO EXPERIENCE THE VIVAH PHALA.
To be continued----------
Sapthama vivah sthana
Sthanadipathi Guru is neecha, in papa rashi and in navamsha also.
Sapthama sthana and Sapthamadipathi Guru in papa graha madya.
With this 2nd house also got spoiled.( Kutumba sthana ), thus jataka lost her kalatra ( husband ) and vivah sukh.Kuja aspects 2nd house from ashtama sthana- Mangalaya sthana as Kuja Dosha Karak.
For Stree --- pathi sukh karak Ravi is in 12th both in rashi and navamsha chakra. So Ravi is nirbala.
Pathi karaka Kuja is in 8th in rashi kundali and neecha in navamsha.
With this Pathi Sukh ( Ravi )and Pathi karaka ( kuja ) both are lost to this jataka.
Mangalya karaka Shukra is neecha and nirbala. With this Mangalya is slipped away from the neck of this stree.
Even though Guru aspects Lagna and lagnadipathi, it has not helped jataka much. Reason is –Guru is aspecting lagna and lagnadipathi as Bhadakadipathi and Neecha. Thus Guru became helpless in this jataka.
SINCE GURU IS JEEVA KARAKA, JATAKA LOST THE JEEVA SHAKTHI TO EXPERIENCE THE VIVAH PHALA.
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Rahu being Vedha karaka , he became more balishta by the drishti of Shani-ketu and nirbala Chandra, gave least vivah sukh to this jataka. Rahu in Maatra sthana and in Kendra to Maatra karaka Chandra , mother also haven’t experienced vivah sukh in her jeevana. Infact she also has experienced Aghaath jeevana in her life.
Guru is JEEVANA KARAKA., JEEVA SHAKTHI KARAKA. He is also called as Sansaar sukh karaka.
How ones jeevana should be?, is decided by Guru. If the Guru is astha , in dusthana, neecha , in shatru rashi or vakra, then the natives jeevana may not be smooth.
That is the reason Guru Bala is seen for every auspicious ceremonies. Guru bala means Daiva bala or ashirvad or Gods blessings. Only Guru can pacifye Kuja and not by any other grahas. Malefics of Kuja can be brought down only by Guru. But in this case Kuja should not see Guru. That is the reason Guru is called as Athyantha Shubha Graha in Jyothish shastra.
He is the karaka graha for 2nd-5th-9th-10th and 11th houses/ bavas. Out of 12 houses he is KARAK for 5 houses.By now one might have clearly understood the importance of Guru in Jyothish shastra.
Guru is also called Jeeva Shakthi karaka. For getting married , Jeeva shakthi is important, that Jeeva shakthi is none otherthan Guru. When there is no Jeeva shakthi , then there will not be Sansaar sukh.
With this reason , it is said that Guru is also considered as significator of spouse in female horoscope as per Brighu Naadi---refer the example above.
In that case ------------why Mother not experienced Vaidavya?
How come there is Kuja Dosha when Kuja is in his own house?
All these things we shall see in the next episode.
Guru is JEEVANA KARAKA., JEEVA SHAKTHI KARAKA. He is also called as Sansaar sukh karaka.
How ones jeevana should be?, is decided by Guru. If the Guru is astha , in dusthana, neecha , in shatru rashi or vakra, then the natives jeevana may not be smooth.
That is the reason Guru Bala is seen for every auspicious ceremonies. Guru bala means Daiva bala or ashirvad or Gods blessings. Only Guru can pacifye Kuja and not by any other grahas. Malefics of Kuja can be brought down only by Guru. But in this case Kuja should not see Guru. That is the reason Guru is called as Athyantha Shubha Graha in Jyothish shastra.
He is the karaka graha for 2nd-5th-9th-10th and 11th houses/ bavas. Out of 12 houses he is KARAK for 5 houses.By now one might have clearly understood the importance of Guru in Jyothish shastra.
Guru is also called Jeeva Shakthi karaka. For getting married , Jeeva shakthi is important, that Jeeva shakthi is none otherthan Guru. When there is no Jeeva shakthi , then there will not be Sansaar sukh.
With this reason , it is said that Guru is also considered as significator of spouse in female horoscope as per Brighu Naadi---refer the example above.
In that case ------------why Mother not experienced Vaidavya?
How come there is Kuja Dosha when Kuja is in his own house?
All these things we shall see in the next episode.
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What type of aghaath jeevana undergone by Mother? . How mother narrowly escaped from Vaidavya jeevana ?
4th house is Maatr sthana. ( take 4th house as Mothers Lagna )
Maatr sthanas ashtama sthana--—Budha is placed.
For Maatr sthana , Guru is shubha graha.
Eventhough Guru aspects Maatras ashtama from neecha sthana, Guru is shubha graha to maatra sthana and he is in 7th to maatra sthana in navamsha.( Tula rashi is 4th house in navamsha ), hence he gave no vaidavya to mother.
Infact Kuja aspects ashtama sthana , he gave problems to Maangaya but not the death of her husband. But Rahus presence in maatr sthana aspected by Shani and Ketu, brought the dushta graha sanchaar on her body. With this, mother is always sick, chanchal manassu and maanasika aswastha ( always menatally strained ) . For her, her jeevana has become SHOONYA. Thus mother also suffered one type of kashta jeevana, lot of pain in her jeevana, experienced aghaath jeevana.
4th house is Maatr sthana. ( take 4th house as Mothers Lagna )
Maatr sthanas ashtama sthana--—Budha is placed.
For Maatr sthana , Guru is shubha graha.
Eventhough Guru aspects Maatras ashtama from neecha sthana, Guru is shubha graha to maatra sthana and he is in 7th to maatra sthana in navamsha.( Tula rashi is 4th house in navamsha ), hence he gave no vaidavya to mother.
Infact Kuja aspects ashtama sthana , he gave problems to Maangaya but not the death of her husband. But Rahus presence in maatr sthana aspected by Shani and Ketu, brought the dushta graha sanchaar on her body. With this, mother is always sick, chanchal manassu and maanasika aswastha ( always menatally strained ) . For her, her jeevana has become SHOONYA. Thus mother also suffered one type of kashta jeevana, lot of pain in her jeevana, experienced aghaath jeevana.
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