Grahana Yoga

[Ashok]

Dear All,

My sole purpose was to generate an
animated discussion of Grahana Yoga.
I think I have succeeded in achieving
my purpose.

I have said all I had to say about
Grahana Yoga. I have nothing further
to say. Personally, I consider the
discussion on Grahana Yoga closed.

Thanks to all for sharing.

May peace and prosperity be showered on all !

Regards,

Ashok

[Basab]

The discussion could have been called a healthy one if Ashokji had not started attacking me personally by making comments like the following:

1) "Internet can make heroes out of zeroes because
Rahu rules electronics and thus, also the internet
The above combination of 10L Moon in 10H with Rahu
may also indicate zeroes turned heroes thanks to the
internet."

2)"10L Moon in 10H with Rahu is like a man who is
riding on a tiger but cannot get off for fear of
being eaten. The man is "stuck" on the tiger
out of fear of being eaten but onlookers think
he is a hero. His mind is tormented and terrified
all the time but he gets mass adulation or great
worldly success in Rahu dasha. In Moon dasha,
the man falls off the tiger and is devoured by
the tiger, ie: the real difficulties of the combination
strike the person and become evident to all. "

[Basab]

Dear Anupamji,

You write in a very roundabout manner, making it difficult for the "spiritually shallow" people like me to understand your posts. Would be very glad if you explain more simply.

[Basab]

Dear Anupamji,

Thank you for explaining it so wonderfully and also for making it simple for me. Yes, I have had struggles and have lost almost all the battles that I have fought in my life so far, so find it difficult to believe that positives can happen in my life as well. But I have faith in your predictions. I have been doing share trading for the last 1.5 months, though not being able to put my whole hearted effort on it due to health problems and worry, I will not be able to continue with it long, so do you think it can mean that I will continue with it in the Saturn sub-period as well? I wonder whether Rahu (significator of shares) in the 10th house with the 10th lord Moon and both 10th lord Moon and Rahu in the nakshatra of Mercury (significator of shares) indicates a career in that? It's interesting that I started it in the sub-sub period of Rahu in the sub-period of Jupiter, which is conjunct the 5th lord of speculation and aspecting the 5th house of speculation. Saturn is again the 5th lord of speculation. Thank you once again for all your help--you are very kind. I am sorry I brought up my birth chart again.

[Basab]

Dear Anupamji,

Thank you for answering my query on my birth chart. Coming to which planet signifies shares, I really can't remember where I have read or heard about Rahu and Mercury signifying shares.

[lovacrs]

Dear Anupamji,

Will be grateful if you can explain the logic behind 6th house signifying shares and trading. I thought trading and business in general is indicated by 7th. I was under the impression that a connect between 5th/7th and 11th indicates share trading.

CRS

[Basab]

Dear Anupamji,

Isn't Mercury and Rahu the singificators of share trading then? I just can't remember where I read about them, but I have always been confident that they signify share trading. I also knew all these days that the 2nd house signifies trading, but you are saying that it's the 3rd house.

It's true that I have started doing share trading in Jupiter sub-period, which is the 6th lord as well, but I started doing it only after the Rahu sub-sub-period started. I have never been interested in share trading, and though my father had asked me to go for it many times in this Jupiter sub-period, I never showed any interest, until after the Rahu sub-sub period started, which I thought was surely due to Rahu's influence and also due to it's being in the 10th house of career.

[Basab]

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[lovacrs]

Thanks Anupamji,

Your explanation seems to work in my case too. (20feb60 15:09 Mysore).

I have 5th lord Ve in 8th with exalted 6th lord Ma aspecting 11th its own house. 2nd lord is debilitated with neechabhanga in 6th. Ju is in Moolatrk aspecting 2nd & 11th.

I started with shares in Ve-Ma dasha for the first time. Did it in a big way in Ve-Ju period.

Despite the interesting connections, I have actually lost money!

CRS

[Ashok]

Dear Anupamji,

Thanks for the interesting input on
shares and trading.

In my view,

6H indicates debt, so it may indicate
trading with borrowed money.

3H may indicate shares because it is
11H (gains) from 5H (speculation).


2H & 3H connections may indicate
trading with own money.

6H & 3H connections may indicate
trading with borrowed money.

10H & 3H connections may indicate
professional trading.

The above will have to be seen from
houses but more particularly from
nakshatras, ie from star and sub lord,
in order to predict the final outcome.

Interesting house indications may
not translate into actual results unless
nakshatras, ie: the star lord and the
sub lord, agree with the indications.
The star lord indicates and the sub
lord decides.


Regards,

Ashok

[lovacrs]

Thanks Anupamji/Ashokji.

Before I forget, let me wish Basab has the right planetary connections to make money.

Ashokji,

Thanks for politely putting across the hard truth that "plnetary connections may give results, butnot necessarily the ones that we desire" They certainly have more free will than us!

In my chart 3rd house connections are also strong including placement in nakshatras. 3rd lord in 9th and 5th lord is placed in 3rd lord's nakshatra conjunct with 11th lord who is also in the same nakshatra. But it appears thay have their own agenda.

Anupamji,

While on the subject, will be grateful if you can answer a few more related questions:

1. How do we differentiate a compulsive tendency to trade in shares as against a judicious one. i.e, does an afflicted 5th house or its lord indicate the first. In my case 5th lord is in 8th but is also the 12th lord. Ve is supposed to be well placed in 8th. Can I say my 5th lord is afflicted because it is in 8th house or do I conclude that speculation gives me hidden gains? Conjunction with Ma makes it tricky since Ma is exalted and they are all in 8th
You will probably agree that there is a thin line separating a compulsive tendency from perseverance


2. How do we differentiate trading vs investment? Is 5th house significant for both?

CRS

[Basab]

Dear Anupamji,

I agree with you that if Rahu had to get me into shares, it would have done it earlier as you have said, in the sub-period of Rahu. I also completely agree with you that the major period and the sub-period will have more impact on a person's life than sub-sub period. It can also be the effect of dasha chiddra--I have already started the sub-period of Saturn.

[quote="anupam1968"]So, although on the surface it seems that Rahu also signifies shares but the prime significator is Jupiter. Rest I leave upon you to decide I am just expressing what seems to be more appropriate for me but I am open to new suggestions.[/quote]

Anupamji, you misunderstood me: I never intended to show any doubt about your correctness on which planet signifies share trading. I know very little in astrology, and I am learning a lot everyday from this website, from the members here, and especially from you and Vaughnji, so there is no question of my, ever, doubting the correctness of what you say.

[Basab]

[quote="lovacrs"]Before I forget, let me wish Basab has the right planetary connections to make money.[/quote]

CRS,

I didn't get into share trading to make money; I know there are more chances of losing than gaining, so I am trading with very less money. Actually, honestly speaking, I don't like share trading at all and so had not done it all these days, but then, I was getting stuck up in life, big time, and thought it necessary to bring some changes in it as a result of which I started doing share trading. I plan to leave it once something else comes up, though I am not sure when that will happen as the 5th house shows speculation, and the sub-period that I have just started is of Saturn, which is the 5th lord of speculation. You know, this is why I believe so much in destiny; it just forces you to do things you would not like to do: it forced me to get into share trading, though I had promised myself that I would never go for it. I hope I don't lose much, and your wish comes true.

[lovacrs]

Maheshji,

That is an excellent piece of thought. Overall being conscious of inlfuences other than "our effort" on the results helps a lot in softening the perception of the state we find ourselves in. "Successful" people are reminded that their success is not entirely a result of "their effort" while the "unsuccessful" can find consolation the same manner.

While we have no option but to do karma the results are decided by God. That was we have to drive our destiny even if the destination is not what we intended!

Dear Basab,

I dont think you need to feel guilty share trading. Trading is actually not speculation unlike invstments in shares (not that speculation is wrong as long as you are aware of the risks and can afford the outcome). I dont see any dfference between share trading and wholesale wheat trading. That is why I had a question whether 5th house signifies both.

CRS

[Basab]

[quote="lovacrs"Dear Basab,

I dont think you need to feel guilty share trading. Trading is actually not speculation unlike invstments in shares (not that speculation is wrong as long as you are aware of the risks and can afford the outcome). I dont see any dfference between share trading and wholesale wheat trading.[/quote]

Dear CRS,

It's not that I am guilty, it's just that I am doing something I have never been interested in.

[Basab]

[quote="anupam1968"]As far as shares are concerned actually sixth house is the house which relates with finance...[/quote]

Dear Anupamji,

I guess the 6th house being an artha trikona house is considered to be a house of finance, but it is the house of debts as well, so shouldn't we consider the 2nd house as the house of finance instead (it is an artha trikona house as well)?

[Porcija]

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[lovacrs]

Dear Mahesh,

A few words from my side too.

I feel People who depend on God and not on their own actions are of two types; the first are the saints who have abdicated/abdicating. They are unconcerned about our perception of them. Some of them believe in their Guru and get help from them.

The second type are those who have lost faith on their ability not sure what to focus on and afraid of facing unexpected results (once bitten twice shy!). They need subtle (so as not hurt their ego) encouragement by people around them to pursue the path of karma.

CRS

[Basab]

Dear Anupamji,

I will be keenly looking forward to your reply; thank you for promising to give it a thought.

[revribhav]

Sorry to disturb those who are expressing their views passionately,however,the harsh reality is that the subject of Grihan Yoga meant basically for astrology seems to have deviated to History,Philosophy and other things.
As far as astrology is concerned,let me add here,that misery and adversity may be experienced by a native,having no Grihan of luminaries,however,those having eclipse of sun or moon have to face a challenging life,which may culminate into fortune or misfortune depending upon past karma.
Those who are praising Rahu in the tenth,particularly with 10 L moon,may take a look at my chart D.O.B.16.09.65 Time 03:15am,Ajmer ,I have ascendent L moon in the tenth,I was suspended on 10 april 08 in Varsh Dasa of Rahu,who was in the tenth house as per Varsh Kundli,and the suspension on frivolous grounds continues till date,although I have not been alleged of any financial irregularity or any misbehaviour/assault.

[Basab]

[quote="anupam1968"] The whole Md of Mars was nothing but my fight with God face to face just like between two persons and he made me lie down everytime right on my face. Imagine someone is hurling tornado of abuses and the other is laughing saying "come on they are not enough. Create something new". However, I must say in spite of that he had been with me everytime whenever I was going to fall in the ditch.[/quote]

I feel like it's me sharing my experiences and my feelings because I developed this kind of attitude in my Venus-Rahu period, thought my fight has never been with God but with destiny. Again I would not say fight, I just surrendered to destiny completely. God has helped me too and never let me down completely.

[Basab]

[quote="p.mahesh"]If God helps, it is fine. There is no ambiguity. But it will not happen to every one. It is the case with only some lucky people.[/quote]

God helps everyone, even when they don't pray to Him. The point is what is your definition of "help". If you are looking for material benefits then He doesn't help: it's your destiny which decides on that, but otherwise He always helps whenever you are in difficulty. I have always failed in life, but I can say with full confidence that I have received His help a countless no. of times.

[revribhav]

The basic of astrology is precisely the principle of karma,though I do not go to temple regularly or chant any mantra,I feel more spiritual since I take care to fill a bucket of water kept outside the home from which the animals drink water,and the day when crows come to my balcony in the morning,they take anything,that day is really pleasant to me.
Whenever I feel surrounded by adversity,I remeber that He saved the grace of Darupadi...and yes,I feel His blessings.

[SUNIL DUTT]

SIR, GREAT PERSONALITIES LIKE MAHATAMA GANDHI, RAJ KAPOOR, ASHWARIYA RAI,SACHIN TENDULKAR HAVE THIS COMBINATION. SUNIL DUTT

[Porcija]

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