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deeps
Well, every job is a thankless one. We have to extract thanks forcefully or use him/her for our selfish gains .
or use him/her for our selfish gains . 
Re: Astrology & Discussion on Birth Charts
by deeps » 311212
Well, every job is a thankless one. We have to extract thanks forcefully or use him/her for our selfish gains .
Yes, but free service is not at all motivating.
. I know you will retort by saying thousand things. A person should not be too honest. Straight trees are cut first and honest people are screwed first.
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
“Reasoning with a drunkard is like
Going under water with a torch to seek for a drowning man.”
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deeps
Nothing in this world is free. But it does not mean money. If you help a person in completing his work for free, make sure you extract help indirectly from him in return.
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astrohajare
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No body asked you that you are busy are not.deeps wrote:Anuradha ji , I am hardly getting proper time to see the charts. Life has become sooooo busy. One was right that astrology will never be my full time passion. Kiya karen..Such is my destiny. It never lets me sit on a chair for more than few minutes anymore.anuradha » Mon Dec 31, 2012 4:47 pm
But why Deeps? regardsHowever, I will be in touch with you.
Why you can not sit on chair ? Do you suffering from piles?
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deeps
Arey nehi, hazare!!..What is piles? Anyway, i researched about it on net and it seems you are suffering from piles as you know what they are. Chee chee..Keep away you little dirty fellowastrohajare » Mon Dec 31, 2012 9:29 pm
No body asked you that you are busy are not.
Why you can not sit on chair ? Do you suffering from piles?
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subhasis13
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astrohajare wrote:No body asked you that you are busy are not.
Why you can not sit on chair ? Do you suffering from piles?
deeps wrote:Arey nehi, hazare!!..What is piles? Anyway, i researched about it on net and it seems you are suffering from piles as you know what they are. Chee chee..Keep away you little dirty fellow
That reminds me of a dialogue of Joker in the film " Dark Knight" : " if you are good at something, dont do it free."deeps wrote:Nothing in this world is free. But it does not mean money. If you help a person in completing his work for free, make sure you extract help indirectly from him in return.
It striked me then and now I read you. It is now re enforced.
Aseem/Ddee22,
I think we never do anything for free, even if that is what our intention is because the law of karma, which says that every action will have an equal and opposite reaction, always works in respect to everything. If we provide some service to someone, then we will get rewarded for that, definitely, if not immediately, then surely later on. So one doesn't need to worry about extracting something in return for the service provided as he will be rewarded for it sooner or later in equal proportion.
I think we never do anything for free, even if that is what our intention is because the law of karma, which says that every action will have an equal and opposite reaction, always works in respect to everything. If we provide some service to someone, then we will get rewarded for that, definitely, if not immediately, then surely later on. So one doesn't need to worry about extracting something in return for the service provided as he will be rewarded for it sooner or later in equal proportion.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
How do you know you are doing a new karma?Yellow » Fri Jan 04, 2013 5:13 pm
Aseem/Ddee22,
I think we never do anything for free, even if that is what our intention is because the law of karma, which says that every action will have an equal and opposite reaction, always works in respect to everything. If we provide some service to someone, then we will get rewarded for that, definitely, if not immediately, then surely later on. So one doesn't need to worry about extracting something in return for the service provided as he will be rewarded for it sooner or later in equal proportion.
Aseem,
I never said about doing new karma, but I know why you made that point, so let me clear this: it doesn’t make any difference whether you do a new karma or you are paying back someone’s debt through your karma as because in both cases the result will be the same: if you give prediction to someone in return for some good done by that person to you in a previous life, even then you will get rewarded for your work, just like you will be rewarded if you do a new karma. Our karmas work in a chain—they keep going on unless we break the chain by detaching ourselves or doing karma with no desire for the fruit of it.
I never said about doing new karma, but I know why you made that point, so let me clear this: it doesn’t make any difference whether you do a new karma or you are paying back someone’s debt through your karma as because in both cases the result will be the same: if you give prediction to someone in return for some good done by that person to you in a previous life, even then you will get rewarded for your work, just like you will be rewarded if you do a new karma. Our karmas work in a chain—they keep going on unless we break the chain by detaching ourselves or doing karma with no desire for the fruit of it.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
BASAB,
If you ask me, or beg for my advise, then I will just taunt you for being unrealistic. You are talking rubbish about law of karma. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LAW OF KARMA. WE ARE JUST MERE PUPPETS IN THE HANDS OF GOD. so, stop wasting time in discussing useless theory which has not proof yet. You could not answer my question. That just proves that I am right.
If you ask me, or beg for my advise, then I will just taunt you for being unrealistic. You are talking rubbish about law of karma. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS LAW OF KARMA. WE ARE JUST MERE PUPPETS IN THE HANDS OF GOD. so, stop wasting time in discussing useless theory which has not proof yet. You could not answer my question. That just proves that I am right.
Aseem,
I agree that there is no proof of law of karma. I just told you what I have read in spiritual books. I don't know if I will call it unrealistic, but it's true the point you have made that everything is in the hands of God, which is why I have always said destiny is predestined. About your question, no I don't have an answer to it... only self realized saints can answer it correctly.
I agree that there is no proof of law of karma. I just told you what I have read in spiritual books. I don't know if I will call it unrealistic, but it's true the point you have made that everything is in the hands of God, which is why I have always said destiny is predestined. About your question, no I don't have an answer to it... only self realized saints can answer it correctly.
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"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
Looks like I am currently intoxicated with the wine of Success!!!..Aha..Kiya baat kahi humne
For a while I have developed a belief.... I am loosing or giving an item to someone who is not returning it, That item may be my debt in my past life or will be in his future lives...I especially use this logic when there is nothing I can do about it.
This can become my short coming but atleast gives me some reason to justify the actions.
Are birth defects due to past karma? How can one judge the completion of penance of past karma?
This can become my short coming but atleast gives me some reason to justify the actions.
Are birth defects due to past karma? How can one judge the completion of penance of past karma?
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deeps
No birth defects are not due to past karmas. It is simply due to unhealthy habits of women and men. Look at the history and you will see that they have increased only in the recent past. Look at the unhealthy lifestyles of women like drinking, smoking, sedentary lifestyle, high intake of sugary items, highly stressful lifestyle due to dual responsibilities, etc which all cause poor health and hence very high chances of giving births to babies with defects.
Thats the scientific explanation...but astrologically speaking?
A few months back star TV hosted a show in order to increase the awareness of past life linkage...In that show, a short height actor (forgetting his name) came in 1 episode and revealed that in the past 2 lives he had done inappropriate things to women(who were close to him)...
If the show wasn't fake and is to be believed that actor is reaping his bad karma?
Also, this is kalyug, people are doing bad things...so these birth defects are the cause of those karmas? Astrologically?
A few months back star TV hosted a show in order to increase the awareness of past life linkage...In that show, a short height actor (forgetting his name) came in 1 episode and revealed that in the past 2 lives he had done inappropriate things to women(who were close to him)...
If the show wasn't fake and is to be believed that actor is reaping his bad karma?
Also, this is kalyug, people are doing bad things...so these birth defects are the cause of those karmas? Astrologically?
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deeps
Tv has been accorded the status of Idiot Box and it will remain so.
Yes, astrology just confirms if one will have problems with children. Many years back, afflicted 5th house or Lord meant not getting well with children but in today's times, it means giving births to weak children. It really pains to see that a child from a good family background using lift to get to 2nd floor. What a shame! No wonder, the business of doctors will keep on rising.
Yes, astrology just confirms if one will have problems with children. Many years back, afflicted 5th house or Lord meant not getting well with children but in today's times, it means giving births to weak children. It really pains to see that a child from a good family background using lift to get to 2nd floor. What a shame! No wonder, the business of doctors will keep on rising.
Dear Deeps/Yellow,
One of my friends who was deep in 'spirituality' and was Chartered Accountant by profession, once said " There is zero error accuracy in God's account".
It was long time ago, and during this time I have come to realize that there is nothing truer than this.
We do work, any work, big or small and incur karmic debt or create a fresh karma. Only way of getting rid of it is by doing another appropriate karma and in the process create another karma OR another way of burning karma is offering our karma to God.
However if one helps others by giving astrological guidance or in many other ways, one may not expect the helped person to payback himself. As there is 'zero error accuracy in God's account', its appropriate return will come back to us as and when God wishes. It is sure to happen.
You have been good to people. And it is definite to come back. When ? You as astrologers will better know.
One of my friends who was deep in 'spirituality' and was Chartered Accountant by profession, once said " There is zero error accuracy in God's account".
It was long time ago, and during this time I have come to realize that there is nothing truer than this.
We do work, any work, big or small and incur karmic debt or create a fresh karma. Only way of getting rid of it is by doing another appropriate karma and in the process create another karma OR another way of burning karma is offering our karma to God.
However if one helps others by giving astrological guidance or in many other ways, one may not expect the helped person to payback himself. As there is 'zero error accuracy in God's account', its appropriate return will come back to us as and when God wishes. It is sure to happen.
You have been good to people. And it is definite to come back. When ? You as astrologers will better know.
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deeps
To make it clear, I am not an astrologer as I dont possess any astrology degree from BVB University or from Benaras. Just having knowledge doesn't mean one is an astrologer. I am just a learner. Your friend will be called CA only after he clears the final exam and not before that.
Deeps,
By your logic K.N. Rao is also not an astrologer, even though he has a lot of knowledge in the subject, as he doesn't have an astrology degree from BVB university or Benares.
By your logic K.N. Rao is also not an astrologer, even though he has a lot of knowledge in the subject, as he doesn't have an astrology degree from BVB university or Benares.
deeps wrote:To make it clear, I am not an astrologer as I dont possess any astrology degree from BVB University or from Benaras. Just having knowledge doesn't mean one is an astrologer. I am just a learner. Your friend will be called CA only after he clears the final exam and not before that.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
Yellow, how do you know that? What proof you have ? Also why he needs degree from BVB as He is himself the founder of the astrology course there?Yellow » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:15 pm
Deeps,
By your logic K.N. Rao is also not an astrologer, even though he has a lot of knowledge in the subject, as he doesn't have an astrology degree from BVB university or Benares.
Deeps,
I have read about his life in his books, and nowhere he mentions learning astrology from an astrology school and having a certificate in astrology. He first learned astrology from his mother at a very early age and from his jyotish guru later on.
Yes, he doesn't need any astrology degree from BVB, but he doesn't have a degree on it from anywhere else also, as far as my knowledge goes.
I have read about his life in his books, and nowhere he mentions learning astrology from an astrology school and having a certificate in astrology. He first learned astrology from his mother at a very early age and from his jyotish guru later on.
Yes, he doesn't need any astrology degree from BVB, but he doesn't have a degree on it from anywhere else also, as far as my knowledge goes.
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"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
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deeps
Oh...He had His own Guru. But then I agree, you don't need degree to be a success in a life.
Yes, his mother was his first astrology teacher, and then, he has mentioned a saint, who was his astrology guru. Yes, you definitely don't need a degree, always, to be successful in life.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
