Astrology & General Discussion on Birth Charts

[basab14]

Deeps,

About the chart of your friend's wife, you said Venus-Mars in the 11th house will make anyone jealous--what exactly did you mean when you said that?

[basab14]

Anilesh,

Is your brother's ascendant also same?

[anilesh47]

Yes, its same

[deeps]

Yellow » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:42 pm

Deeps,

I feel it is the transit of Rahu, more than than that of Saturn, which got him into problem in regard to his career. But the interesting part is, in this case, transit gave its effect in spite of a good planetary period.

Venus is weak here due to in being in enemy sign and has the aspect of Lord Saturn. Further, dasha chidra also going on.

[basab14]

Wow, that's really interesting. I wonder if Deep's friend's wife and your brother have similar lives. You can check that out with Deeps.

[deeps]

Yellow » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:45 pm

Deeps,

About the chart of your friend's wife, you said Venus-Mars in the 11th house will make anyone jealous--what exactly did you mean when you said that?

Ofcourse, having more boyfriends.
But having them does not necessarily means sexual affairs. If a wife has more boys' following, it is enough to spark jealously in husband's mind.

Further, Lagna Lord exalted means show off which her husband never liked. She did show off in everything including mocking him.

[basab14]

Deeps,

Your points are correct about his Venus.

[deeps]

anilesh47 » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:43 pm

Hi Deeps,
"Mars and Venus in 11th house. This is too much. It is enough to spark jealously." Can you eleborate in detail this sentence? You mean to say that native will be jealous of wealth, fame and name???...
Her chart is very similar to my younger brother's chart who is only 6 days younger to her. She has moon in 7th house while my bro has moon in 9th house and other planet placement is same.

You got it right. Venus exalted is sure a sign of living luxurious or flamboyant lives, provided there are not cancellation of dhan yogas in one's chart.

Well, here your brother chart is good as he does not have debilitated planet in 7th house which changes destiny to a certain extent. Plus, he is a boy and she is a girl. We need to keep gender in mind, before predicting anything.

[deeps]

VioletTwilight » Tue Dec 25, 2012 1:21 am

@Deeps,

In guy's chart, Ve is combust. Barbara Pijan lama says that combust Ve implies, wife will be under control of her father.
Is that the root of the problem, the guy's father-in-law?
Overall, his chart looks like he would get out of this (exalted Mars with Moon) ?

In girl's chart, vargottama Ju with deb. Moon seems the primary cause for trouble. I think they will divorce if they don't have any children.

Violet ji,

I am confident that Venus is not combust.

[krishnendu12das]

aseem ji ,

what is dasa chidra ?

in my friends chart , Ve is vargottam and i read that vargottam planet is equal to exalted planet and also he is running dasa of 10th L vargottam Ve but you are saying Ve is weak , is placement in rasi so important .

Again according to you Sa aspect on natal Su brings noticeable change in career , that is also happening in his chart !

but there is still chance as the union people said that they have talked to the regional director and something still can happen in his favour but it will take time but no surity is given .....


according to Saindhavi ji , Ra sandhi in Li will end on Jan 11 aas Ra will enter 28th deg but you are saying something better can happen after Jan 15 . what is happening in Jan 15 , is it any transit or any change in dasa period?

[basab14]

Deeps,

I agree that having many boyfriends doesn’t mean having sexual affairs, but Venus-Mars conjunction generally means having lust and a tendency to have sexual relation with many people. I am sure it is not so for her as Jupiter is aspecting that combination and protecting her from such things. Jupiter in the 7th house also makes sure that she won’t indulge in it.

Yes, lagna lord, and that too Venus, which is a planet of flamboyance, when exalted in the 11th house of gains and achievements, it's bound to make the person have a glamour about her—one that comes with success and of course one she is born with, and Mars, which helps give expression to one’s feelings, will make her show off her wealth and be rude sometimes out of arrogance, which success can bring.

[vnt5007]

thanks deeps for taking time to analyse my chart. You are correct about my education. yes my childhood had minor illnesses but i think thats normal. my father did ok after my birth. how do u see myself in terms of carreer. though got highest education but today if i see people less educated than me may be earning the same money or even more.... when I will be able to settle in life... my carreer will be better in india or abroad? anything in my chart which which i need to take care of?
thanks in advance deeps ji

[VioletTwilight]

[quote="deeps"]Violet ji,

I am confident that Venus is not combust. [/color][/b][/quote]

You are correct. It is my mistake that I took retrograde degrees (within 14) for direct degrees (within 9).
Venus is about 11 degrees away and out of combustion. Even without combustion, the controlling effects are still present . It looks like there is some strong external influence on the girl from the family?

Re Lagna lord exaltation: Isn't the guy's chart also have lagna lord exalted (Saturn in 9th house?). Or if we consider Rahu in Gemini as exaltation. In that case, they are matched well for "show-off" I guess.

If the girl had many male friends, they will not measure up to the husband realistically (Mars in water sign in girl's chart vs. exalted Mars in husband's chart). There is Ju - Mars parivartana in girl's chart. Is there some confusion in her mind about how "husbands" are different from "boyfriends"?

[basab14]

Anilesh,

Your brother has a very good chart. He will have a smooth life.

[deeps]

krishnendu12das » Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:00 pm

aseem ji ,

what is dasa chidra ?

in my friends chart , Ve is vargottam and i read that vargottam planet is equal to exalted planet and also he is running dasa of 10th L vargottam Ve but you are saying Ve is weak , is placement in rasi so important .

Again according to you Sa aspect on natal Su brings noticeable change in career , that is also happening in his chart !

but there is still chance as the union people said that they have talked to the regional director and something still can happen in his favour but it will take time but no surity is given .....


according to Saindhavi ji , Ra sandhi in Li will end on Jan 11 aas Ra will enter 28th deg but you are saying something better can happen after Jan 15 . what is happening in Jan 15 , is it any transit or any change in dasa period?

Dasha chidra happens whenever there is a transition phase from one mahadasha to a new mahadasha. Usually, own antardashas are the the transition time.

About rahu, i only take true position. This means that Rahu will move out of scorpio on 15th Jan 2013.

[deeps]

vnt5007 » Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:27 am

thanks deeps for taking time to analyse my chart. You are correct about my education. yes my childhood had minor illnesses but i think thats normal. my father did ok after my birth. how do u see myself in terms of carreer. though got highest education but today if i see people less educated than me may be earning the same money or even more.... when I will be able to settle in life... my carreer will be better in india or abroad? anything in my chart which which i need to take care of?
thanks in advance deeps ji
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VNT ji,

No doubt you have strong chart but there are some planetary configurations which are making your career move like a car that often breakdowns while driving to a destination.

There is Sakata Yoga formed by guru and moon.

There is 3rd negative aspect of Lord Saturn on your 10th house.

Plus, 10th Lord is in 6th house.

However, Now that Lord Saturn is aspecting your nata Sun in your chart and with the 9th Lord period running, the time till nov 2014 is crucial for your advancement in your career. There will be changes in your career. Maybe promotion or taking up another job in different field. Such transits often brings remarkable changes in career.

[deeps]

VioletTwilight » Wed Dec 26, 2012 4:09 am

Violet ji,

I am confident that Venus is not combust. [/color][/b]

You are correct. It is my mistake that I took retrograde degrees (within 14) for direct degrees (within 9).
Venus is about 11 degrees away and out of combustion. Even without combustion, the controlling effects are still present . It looks like there is some strong external influence on the girl from the family?

Re Lagna lord exaltation: Isn't the guy's chart also have lagna lord exalted (Saturn in 9th house?). Or if we consider Rahu in Gemini as exaltation. In that case, they are matched well for "show-off" I guess.

If the girl had many male friends, they will not measure up to the husband realistically (Mars in water sign in girl's chart vs. exalted Mars in husband's chart). There is Ju - Mars parivartana in girl's chart. Is there some confusion in her mind about how "husbands" are different from "boyfriends"?

Violet ji,

Since we have seen the girl chart now and I explained how she is facing problems in marriage. She will also pay for her sins as she has started sade-sati. The boy will come out with victory because his good times are coming.

Now, let us see the boy chart. Does his chart show anything?

See that 7th Lord is in 11th house in dual sign, similar to a girl. Dual means two. This signifies 2 marriages. However please note this is applicable more in desh, kaal, patra. I mean i saw in one aged woman's chart, her 7th lord in dual sign. She had only one marriage. But she faced so much problems in marriage for years and wanted to walk out. But could not as the dispute was resolved with the interference from relatives.

Now in the boy's chart, again see, Lord Saturn's 3rd aspect on 7th Lord. I have read the cases in one of Mehta ji's book where he demonstrated how Lord Saturn's aspect on 7th Lord can cause devastation in marriage. This is proved again in the boy's chart.

What is the end result for both of them? They are destined to seek divorce, the boy will win the case and both will have peaceful second marriages. This closes the case here. Thanks.

[VioletTwilight]

Deeps ji,

Thanks for the analysis. I have a further question about the boy's chart.
Saturn's aspect on 7th lord may indeed cause difficulties in marriage. But, is Saturn aspect alone sufficient for final break?
I think that Saturn usually gives sorrow that is prolonged instead of finishing the marriage and ending the troubles soon.

Best regards,
Violet

[deeps]

violet ji,

I agree with you.the problem started after marriage and they separated this year. No wonder, lord Saturn has prolonged the agony for him due to this girl. But they are not destined to be together. Please do the gunas matching and you will know. Plus, he is manglik and she is not. How they can be together and enjoy the bliss of happy marriage life?

If love is blind, then marriage is eye opener.

[basab14]

Deeps,

Honestly speaking, I don't have much faith in guna milap. Coming to one partner being manglik and another not being so, well, I don't think if both partners are manglik things will be good, either. As far as the chart of the guy is concerned it doesn't show divorce. The girl's chart doesn't show that, either. I think they will have problems in marriage, but will not separate.

[deeps]

Well basab,

everyone is entitled to his own opinion. But i also wish that they get re-united again but then destiny knows best.

[basab14]

Aseem:

I just shared my thoughts on the two charts. What will happen that only time will tell as you rightly said.

[vnt5007]

thanks again deeps ji. I have sakat yoga but it gets cancelled becoz moon is posted in a quadrant from lagna. i thought till march 2013 the period is tough for me and after that the period will be good for me. should i stay abroad or come back to india
thnaks

[deeps]

VNT ji,

Yes it is correct that Lord Saturn antardasha has to be tough for you at workplace and also some health issues bothering you. Mercury antardasha will be better and with 7th Lord, you are likely to remain in abroad. But i need to know since when you are abroad? How has been the beginning of Sun dasha so far?

[basab14]

Regarding Mangalik:
8th dristi of Mars to 7th house is interpreted by some as strongest of Mars influence. However, in my experience, Mars dristi is more about living away and lots of squabbles. I have seen 3 Mangaliks in my family. In each case, the marriage was there, it is just the spouses had to live in separate countries due to work, study or other reasons. Even when they lived together, they had different shifts and didn't see each other often, or had lot of short trips for work. There were fights when young but those subsided after children.

So, I don't think Mars dristi necessarily means violence. It is just needing more "room". Just getting a separate room in a house where the spouse won't come is enough. In any case, after 28 years, Mars stabilizes and no hot-headedness after that.

Violet,

I think the worst placement for Mars in regard to marriage problems is it’s being in the 8th house or 7th house in a chart. Mars in the 12th house is not that bad, I feel.