For the record - Mercury is NOT exalted. Virgo is where Mercury has its Exaltation, Moolatrikona AND swakshetra. So, mercury anywhere in Virgo does not make it exalted.
Mercury is exalted at 15 deg in Virgo. 16-20 is Moola Trikona and 20-30 is Swakshetra.
Importantly, at 15 deg, Mercury is in Hasta NK, which is owned by his Daddy. At 3 deg as in Tiwari's case, Mercury is in UP Nk, owned by SUN, which while still good, is not the same.
And to analyse a depressive mind, its Moon which needs to be considered more than mercury. Merc is more for Intelligence, humor, poetry, wit, repartee, communication skills etc.
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Exaltation is different from Deep Exaltation -15° in Virgo for Mercury, 20° for Saturn in Libra (visaka).
Where is the debilitation? It's almost canceled due to exalted Ketu- Nicha Bhanga Raja Yoga. You are only experiencing a very mild debilitation nothing like what other people would experience. Also it is important to remember- the debilitation itself does not give bad results, you have to look at how strong the Nakshatra lord is- Anuradha's Lord Saturn is exalted (20.3°) in Vishaka -this happens once every 30 years so consider yourself incredibly lucky.Tiwari wrote:Thanks, I liked the bit on mercury -- that it can justify almost anything. But I still don't understand how debilitated eleventh lord would give all that, especially when it is completely eclipsed by ketu. Shouldn't it be opposite? Or is it some other planet, for instance, Jupiter in its own house in D1 and in exaltation in D9 in second house that has rescued the situation?
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Thanks for the clarification, ChandraLagna
Thanks elipsisChandraLagna wrote:For the record - Mercury is NOT exalted. Virgo is where Mercury has its Exaltation, Moolatrikona AND swakshetra. So, mercury anywhere in Virgo does not make it exalted.
Mercury is exalted at 15 deg in Virgo. 16-20 is Moola Trikona and 20-30 is Swakshetra.
Importantly, at 15 deg, Mercury is in Hasta NK, which is owned by his Daddy. At 3 deg as in Tiwari's case, Mercury is in UP Nk, owned by SUN, which while still good, is not the same.
And to analyse a depressive mind, its Moon which needs to be considered more than mercury. Merc is more for Intelligence, humor, poetry, wit, repartee, communication skills etc.
ChandraLagna wrote:the debilitation itself does not give bad results, you have to look at how strong the Nakshatra lord is- Anuradha's Lord Saturn is exalted (20.3°) in Vishaka -this happens once every 30 years so consider yourself incredibly lucky.
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krishnendu12das
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Dear members , just like to say something .
my mother has Mo and Ke in 5th H in Pisces . Her overall life is very unsatisfactory with very bad married life but she just knows everything that is coming in future for her and our family . She has very very deep faith in god and some supernatural force/god just tells her whenever something significant good or bad will happen to our family . She never told this to anybody , just kept this to herself , only once when i was very very upset about something she told me what will happen . Afterwards i came to know about her ability . But even i never spoke of this to anybody because i thought that people will think that she is mad and also mocked her a few times for this . Only after reading this thread i am talking about it for the first time .
She has no knowledge of astrology
1. She told me that before her marriage she knew that the result of the marriage will bring her only sorrow .
2. She knew in which yr her sister and her brother will get married .
3 She told me that i will never be a doctor ( i wanted to be a doctor )
4. She told me two yrs earlier when will i get into engineering .
5. She told me i will never get job in engineering field .
6. In 8th june 2012 , in the morning she was crying in her room knowing everything beforehand and our pet dog died in about a few hrs after . Both me and my mother love our dog very much .
her details
27 jun 1959 , 5.00 pm , allahabad , india
my mother has Mo and Ke in 5th H in Pisces . Her overall life is very unsatisfactory with very bad married life but she just knows everything that is coming in future for her and our family . She has very very deep faith in god and some supernatural force/god just tells her whenever something significant good or bad will happen to our family . She never told this to anybody , just kept this to herself , only once when i was very very upset about something she told me what will happen . Afterwards i came to know about her ability . But even i never spoke of this to anybody because i thought that people will think that she is mad and also mocked her a few times for this . Only after reading this thread i am talking about it for the first time .
She has no knowledge of astrology
1. She told me that before her marriage she knew that the result of the marriage will bring her only sorrow .
2. She knew in which yr her sister and her brother will get married .
3 She told me that i will never be a doctor ( i wanted to be a doctor )
4. She told me two yrs earlier when will i get into engineering .
5. She told me i will never get job in engineering field .
6. In 8th june 2012 , in the morning she was crying in her room knowing everything beforehand and our pet dog died in about a few hrs after . Both me and my mother love our dog very much .
her details
27 jun 1959 , 5.00 pm , allahabad , india
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Tiwari
Krishnendu:
Thanks. Your mother shares her birth date with my dad and birth year with my mother! I will leave the chart analysis for someone knowledgeable. But her navmansa has ketu and rahu in 1/7 axis. Both her rashi and navmasha asc are same: scorpio. In her lagna chart sun is in eighth and saturn in second. Both aspect each other, I think, in an unfriendly way. Jupiter, the karak of husband is in 12th in tula and in navmansha it occupies the eigth, again a dushtasthana.
But in any case, as others pointed out in the thread, moon with ketu in a water rashi, especially meen would give strong and intense intuitive powers -- or instincts, as I like to think.
Thanks. Your mother shares her birth date with my dad and birth year with my mother! I will leave the chart analysis for someone knowledgeable. But her navmansa has ketu and rahu in 1/7 axis. Both her rashi and navmasha asc are same: scorpio. In her lagna chart sun is in eighth and saturn in second. Both aspect each other, I think, in an unfriendly way. Jupiter, the karak of husband is in 12th in tula and in navmansha it occupies the eigth, again a dushtasthana.
But in any case, as others pointed out in the thread, moon with ketu in a water rashi, especially meen would give strong and intense intuitive powers -- or instincts, as I like to think.
krishnendu12das wrote:Dear members , just like to say something .
my mother has Mo and Ke in 5th H in Pisces . Her overall life is very unsatisfactory with very bad married life but she just knows everything that is coming in future for her and our family . She has very very deep faith in god and some supernatural force/god just tells her whenever something significant good or bad will happen to our family . She never told this to anybody , just kept this to herself , only once when i was very very upset about something she told me what will happen . Afterwards i came to know about her ability . But even i never spoke of this to anybody because i thought that people will think that she is mad and also mocked her a few times for this . Only after reading this thread i am talking about it for the first time .
She has no knowledge of astrology
1. She told me that before her marriage she knew that the result of the marriage will bring her only sorrow .
2. She knew in which yr her sister and her brother will get married .
3 She told me that i will never be a doctor ( i wanted to be a doctor )
4. She told me two yrs earlier when will i get into engineering .
5. She told me i will never get job in engineering field .
6. In 8th june 2012 , in the morning she was crying in her room knowing everything beforehand and our pet dog died in about a few hrs after . Both me and my mother love our dog very much .
her details
27 jun 1959 , 5.00 pm , allahabad , india
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krishnendu12das
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Dear Tiwari ji , yes you are right , my mother's married life is very very bad . My father would not even care if she dies but i do . My mother is always sick for sometime now and my father is very negligent to bear with her medical expenses and i am still jobless and i am very worried that how long will he continue with her medical expenses .
Can you please indicate my mother's longevity !
or reply to this post
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 16&t=15839
I don't know exactly how to judge longevity but i feel my Ju-Ma dasa ( in 2/12 relation ) something bad will happen and in that same time my mother will start Su mahadasa and Su in 8th H , so i am bit worried .
Can you please indicate my mother's longevity !
or reply to this post
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 16&t=15839
I don't know exactly how to judge longevity but i feel my Ju-Ma dasa ( in 2/12 relation ) something bad will happen and in that same time my mother will start Su mahadasa and Su in 8th H , so i am bit worried .
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Tiwari
Dear Krishnendu,
I am sorry to hear about your mother and your situation. I really have no knowledge of astrology to analyze charts or comment on big topics like longevity. Besides, I feel predicting life-span of someone is a bit complex, both in terms of astrology and life in general. We will have to request someone senior to look at your mother's chart to suggest some remedies, perhaps. Maybe ask Ramanan?
I wish you luck and strength --
I am sorry to hear about your mother and your situation. I really have no knowledge of astrology to analyze charts or comment on big topics like longevity. Besides, I feel predicting life-span of someone is a bit complex, both in terms of astrology and life in general. We will have to request someone senior to look at your mother's chart to suggest some remedies, perhaps. Maybe ask Ramanan?
I wish you luck and strength --
krishnendu12das wrote:Dear Tiwari ji , yes you are right , my mother's married life is very very bad . My father would not even care if she dies but i do . My mother is always sick for sometime now and my father is very negligent to bear with her medical expenses and i am still jobless and i am very worried that how long will he continue with her medical expenses .
Can you please indicate my mother's longevity !
or reply to this post
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 16&t=15839
I don't know exactly how to judge longevity but i feel my Ju-Ma dasa ( in 2/12 relation ) something bad will happen and in that same time my mother will start Su mahadasa and Su in 8th H , so i am bit worried .
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I have moon, ketu combination in 12th house along with Sun in Sun's own house. I pretty much can generalize that things are not very good.
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Tiwari
More than half of the people I have been friends all my life, and continue to be, have moon-ketu combo, especially in the 3/9 axis. None of them is either an alcoholic or quarrelsome by nature. Though, they might enjoy a drink or two in social gatherings. Their lives are going fine. More or less they are a happy lot. They might be a bit moody. But even people with non-moon-ketu combo are moody. They are very perceptive and secretive by nature.
galaxylight wrote:I have moon, ketu combination in 12th house along with Sun in Sun's own house. I pretty much can generalize that things are not very good.
pdpoojara wrote:Here is the birth details of a person I know, who has Moon Ketu in ascendant Pisces. Born on 6/1/1960; 11:30am at Ahmednagar(MS). He is an alcoholoic, abusive person, extremely quarrelsome and almost a loser in career. He has been squandering away ancestral properties in destructive activities.tanky85 wrote:Moon ketu conjunction also known as grahan dosha. If a native has this combination in the lagna then it may lead to loss of status, the native may spoil his name. During the dashas of moon and ketu, the native may experience mood swings, depression, obsessive behavior. People who suffer from OCD may have this combination in the chart. This combination may cause multiple psychological problems. Due to depression the native usually has low confidence level. People with this combination also feel depressed because of their own mistakes and guilt. This creates a very bad impact on all walks of life. Hence this combination is a life spoiler.
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Tiwari
Hi mysticsanket:mysticsanket wrote:ME TOO.
Born on November 26, 1979
11: 00 A.M
Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India.
Chandra-Ketu in second House in Aquaraius, Aspected by Mars & Jupiter in 8th House.
Could you please share some of your experiences/personality traits/etc that you think were/are because of this moon-ketu combo?
Thanks,
T
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Tiwari
Nupur, you are saying "Tiwari" . . .Gosh, I can't take this from you. Please.
Anyway, forget about the name, you once said that you know someone who has this combination in D-1? Maybe you can share that person's chart etc?
Swamykool, the green one, has ketu and moon in the tenth house in cancer rashi. But he won't write on it, of course. He will just deny membership

Anyway, forget about the name, you once said that you know someone who has this combination in D-1? Maybe you can share that person's chart etc?
Swamykool, the green one, has ketu and moon in the tenth house in cancer rashi. But he won't write on it, of course. He will just deny membership
TR,Swamykool, the green one, has ketu and moon in the tenth house in cancer rashi. But he won't write on it, of course. He will just deny membership![]()
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Not yapping or typing too much is the distinct signature of Moon Ketu conjunction.
SK
It's better to rule in hell than to serve in heaven.
Hey Tiwari ,
Here the name "Tiwari" is shining like a brand name and I didnt want to spoil its effect thats why I used it dear.
The person whose chart is with Mo-Ke combo is intuitive definitely but his lagna is at edge ie less than 1 degree so not going to post his details.
@ SK........so not typing too much but happily typing the denial .
Anyways no wonder membership is denied. Maybe this is the time of denials for me from here, there, everywhere .
However dreaming for a nice time ahead . I am a victim of fighting spirit .LL vargottama .

Here the name "Tiwari" is shining like a brand name and I didnt want to spoil its effect thats why I used it dear.
The person whose chart is with Mo-Ke combo is intuitive definitely but his lagna is at edge ie less than 1 degree so not going to post his details.
@ SK........so not typing too much but happily typing the denial .
Anyways no wonder membership is denied. Maybe this is the time of denials for me from here, there, everywhere .
Hurt me with the TRUTH but never comfort me with a LIE
Hi
I am part of the moon and ketu combination club.
Moon and ketu is in cancer 4th house... where as 10th house i got rahu,
9th house jupiter.., mars and venus in gemini .. aries and mercury in ariesand sun and saturn in taurus...
Can someone tell me the effect of moon and ketu in 4th house and does rahu aspect both of them from 10th house(capricorn)..what will be the effects...?
Priya
I am part of the moon and ketu combination club.
Moon and ketu is in cancer 4th house... where as 10th house i got rahu,
9th house jupiter.., mars and venus in gemini .. aries and mercury in ariesand sun and saturn in taurus...
Can someone tell me the effect of moon and ketu in 4th house and does rahu aspect both of them from 10th house(capricorn)..what will be the effects...?
Priya
In her case Moon is hemmed between Ketu n Saturn adding to the plight. Moon is in Libra rashi n Vishaka Nk...too much air .... further NK lord Jupiter goes deb in 8th house ...
between you must have check with others...will ketu offer neech bhanga to Moon in your case ?
between you must have check with others...will ketu offer neech bhanga to Moon in your case ?
Tiwari wrote:999priya wrote:Hi
Dear Leo,
Yes, possible. But must be other things too that do this. I have moon in scorpio with ketu in anuradha nakshatra; saturn is well-placed in the chart. I do feel restless, but since moon is in such a secretive sign, I manage to hide it really well. On the outside no one would even guess (except a few: maybe the ones who have their moons in watery signs) that I was about to have a heart attack.![]()
I have also noticed that I bond really well with people who have moon-ketu combo, especially in scorpio and cancer. They become my friends. And I almost immediately feel at home with people who have moon in pisces.
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Tiwari
Yes, some have said it gets neech bhanga, since it is in the third house. Also other planets must be affecting things too. Except moon, most planets in my chart are in their own houses, or exalted ,or in friendly houses, so in a way it is not bad to have one neech planet. It gives balance, I think
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Where do you run into these "some" ? And, all 30 deg of Scorp is not debilitation, as I have told you many many times. Just 3 deg in Vishaka. And then, it does not render Moon weak or anything like that.
The closest Indian word I can get to accurately describe Debility is Kameena.
The closest Indian word I can get to accurately describe Debility is Kameena.
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With Regards,
ChandraLagna
With Regards,
ChandraLagna
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Yeah, agreed. You told me many, many times. Will not err, again.
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My husband has this Moon+Ketu combination in 9th house Leo with Sun + Ve+Rahu dristi from 3rd.
He is intuitive, has a very deep relationship with God and prayer, sensitive, loves his mother (but mother is elderly and ill, and emotionally distant).
Something strange about this combination is how many people will tell their secrets to him. Even strangers, foreigners and especially unrelated women. May be that 8th lord Moon brings out all those secrets.
He is intuitive, has a very deep relationship with God and prayer, sensitive, loves his mother (but mother is elderly and ill, and emotionally distant).
Something strange about this combination is how many people will tell their secrets to him. Even strangers, foreigners and especially unrelated women. May be that 8th lord Moon brings out all those secrets.
Hello,
I have been told I have moon + ketu in 12 th. Aquarius Lagna. I have felt the intuitions a few times.
Actually some softwares show my ketu in 11th house. So I am still not sure if I have moon + ketu conjuction in my chart.
Regards
I have been told I have moon + ketu in 12 th. Aquarius Lagna. I have felt the intuitions a few times.
Actually some softwares show my ketu in 11th house. So I am still not sure if I have moon + ketu conjuction in my chart.
Regards
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