mine comes out to be short in all three pairs..
1) Scorpio + Saggitarius = short
2) Capricorn + Saggitarius = short
3) Libra + Saggitarius = short
SHORT + SHORT + SHORT = short
looks like i have very little time left..
Longevity Analysis : Three pairs Rule
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anxious2711
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Dear all,
I am not really convinced by that methodology, do you have any more examples?
I mean if we use this methodology, probability wise, one third of the people would have a short life span, another third, a medium life span and another third, a long life span.
Now statistically speaking, that is not the case in real life.
If you take the example of my close family, my grand father had 11 sibblings, each of them got married, they all had kids, and those kids also all got married (except 2 who just turned 30). Now those kids also have children.
So in the first generation they were 24 (12 sibblings and their partners)
In the second generation they were 78 (38 couples and 2 unmarried).
In the third generation they are 91 (10 couples and 71 unmarried).
People in the first generation are all over 60 by now, the ones in the second generation are between 26 and 59, the one in the 3rd generation are up to 37 years old.
Now in the 1st generation, 6 people have passed away, among which 2 had a short life span (below 36) and one had a medium life span (below 60) and the other 3 had a long life span (above 60).
In the 2nd generation, 6 people have passed away, among which 2 had a short life span (below 36) and 4 had a medium life span (below 60).
Statistically if you look at it, we do not see a distribution of 3rds. And this is just my close family, people say there tends to be too many young deaths in our family and that is why we did a Pitru dosha shanti pooja. If I look at families and friends around me, I do not see on average 1 third having a short life span, another third, a medium life span and another third, a long life span.
Life expentancy in the olden days was about 40 to 45 years, nowadays, this has changed, so shouldn't we change our predictions accordingly?
I am not really convinced by that methodology, do you have any more examples?
I mean if we use this methodology, probability wise, one third of the people would have a short life span, another third, a medium life span and another third, a long life span.
Now statistically speaking, that is not the case in real life.
If you take the example of my close family, my grand father had 11 sibblings, each of them got married, they all had kids, and those kids also all got married (except 2 who just turned 30). Now those kids also have children.
So in the first generation they were 24 (12 sibblings and their partners)
In the second generation they were 78 (38 couples and 2 unmarried).
In the third generation they are 91 (10 couples and 71 unmarried).
People in the first generation are all over 60 by now, the ones in the second generation are between 26 and 59, the one in the 3rd generation are up to 37 years old.
Now in the 1st generation, 6 people have passed away, among which 2 had a short life span (below 36) and one had a medium life span (below 60) and the other 3 had a long life span (above 60).
In the 2nd generation, 6 people have passed away, among which 2 had a short life span (below 36) and 4 had a medium life span (below 60).
Statistically if you look at it, we do not see a distribution of 3rds. And this is just my close family, people say there tends to be too many young deaths in our family and that is why we did a Pitru dosha shanti pooja. If I look at families and friends around me, I do not see on average 1 third having a short life span, another third, a medium life span and another third, a long life span.
Life expentancy in the olden days was about 40 to 45 years, nowadays, this has changed, so shouldn't we change our predictions accordingly?
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anxious2711
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Dear Shrikantji,
There are only 3 outcomes possible, and in terms of probability, any combination is just as likely and hence any outcome is also just as likely.
On another note, have you looked at Bill Gates' chart? I only allowed myself to look at it since he is well above 60 now. But FYI by using this method, the forecast would have been 'Short life span'.
Regards,
There are only 3 outcomes possible, and in terms of probability, any combination is just as likely and hence any outcome is also just as likely.
On another note, have you looked at Bill Gates' chart? I only allowed myself to look at it since he is well above 60 now. But FYI by using this method, the forecast would have been 'Short life span'.
Regards,
Respected Shrikanth sir,
Can u take a look at my chart and specify whether wat is the outcome if the above calculatio
n u mentioned since i am unable to calculate it???????
Therfore i request u to kindli spare few mins of ur time and analyse my longetivity.
For this act of kindness i ll be highly obliged to you.
My details r updated below:
Dob : 17 november 1986
Time : 11:20 a.m. Morning
Place : chandrapura (bokaro) , jharkhand
Lagna : capricorn
Lagna lord : saturn
Gender: male
Nakshatra: krittika
Regards
Bkrojhk
Can u take a look at my chart and specify whether wat is the outcome if the above calculatio
n u mentioned since i am unable to calculate it???????
Therfore i request u to kindli spare few mins of ur time and analyse my longetivity.
For this act of kindness i ll be highly obliged to you.
My details r updated below:
Dob : 17 november 1986
Time : 11:20 a.m. Morning
Place : chandrapura (bokaro) , jharkhand
Lagna : capricorn
Lagna lord : saturn
Gender: male
Nakshatra: krittika
Regards
Bkrojhk
Dear Srikanthji,
I have no prior knowledge of astrology,but have used this forum to find useful answers to my problems.I was intrigued by this topic and used the rules to calculate the life span
D.O.B 20/10/1970
Time 06:15 am
Mumbai,India
The analysis was short+short+short.I am 42 years old. Probably I was wrong in the calculations.
I have no prior knowledge of astrology,but have used this forum to find useful answers to my problems.I was intrigued by this topic and used the rules to calculate the life span
D.O.B 20/10/1970
Time 06:15 am
Mumbai,India
The analysis was short+short+short.I am 42 years old. Probably I was wrong in the calculations.
There are other factors which can enhance longevity like placement of benefics like jupiter ,venus,moon in kendra or kona and malefics in upachaya houses.saturn in 8th gives tremendous longevity and exalted or own house planets also helps to increase longevity.after calculating the lifespan by three pairs method we have to take the above mentioned positions of planets into account for a final estimation of longevity.but still longevity calculation will fail for a few because our karma has the capacity to increase or decrease longevity.
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astrolearner15
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I tried this for about 10 people and it worked for 6/7 of them. Do we only apply this rule on the Rasi Chart or do we need to reconfirm with applying it to the Navamsa?
Madam - See strength of Budha. Budha is in a Kendra aspecting 10.
Guru is aspecting Lagna.
Lagna is strong.
8L Kuja - exalted in 5 - Raja yoga. - long life.
every horoscope is different - 3 pair rule is not working every day every time. please understand.
Guru is aspecting Lagna.
Lagna is strong.
8L Kuja - exalted in 5 - Raja yoga. - long life.
every horoscope is different - 3 pair rule is not working every day every time. please understand.
Thank you so much. Since I am new to astrology and still learning, I immediately see/think the worst and then worry. I will take a break from reading my family's charts as it is causing unnecessary angst given my very limited knowledge.
Thank you again.
Thank you again.
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Namashkar forum members,
Seems like I have very limited time left too.
1) Asc : Aries (Mars in Taurus- Fixed)
8th = Sagg(Ketu in Aquarius = Fixed or Mars in Taurus = Fixed)
AL-8L = short + short = short
2) Moon in cancer = Movable = Long
Saturn in Leo = Fixed = Short
Moon-Saturn = Movable + Fixed = Dual = Medium
3) Asc = Aries = Movable = Long
HL = Dhanur Rasi = Dual = Medium
ASC-HL = Movable + Dual = Short
Final = Short + Medium + Short = SHORT
Is this correct?
Regards,
Prakruthi
Seems like I have very limited time left too.
1) Asc : Aries (Mars in Taurus- Fixed)
8th = Sagg(Ketu in Aquarius = Fixed or Mars in Taurus = Fixed)
AL-8L = short + short = short
2) Moon in cancer = Movable = Long
Saturn in Leo = Fixed = Short
Moon-Saturn = Movable + Fixed = Dual = Medium
3) Asc = Aries = Movable = Long
HL = Dhanur Rasi = Dual = Medium
ASC-HL = Movable + Dual = Short
Final = Short + Medium + Short = SHORT
Is this correct?
Regards,
Prakruthi
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[quote="Shrikanth"]Dear All,
I've spent some time on researching in areas of Longevity and the Nature of death. I'll be presenting my findings and understandings in a series of posts in upcoming weeks.
This post is an introduction to the subject of Longevity analysis by using the Three Pairs Rule. This will provide some foundational basis for understanding future posts in this subject.
[b] Step 4 - Combining the Three Indicators [/b]
[b][color=red]If two out of the three indicators are of one type - then the Final Result is that type of majority.[/color][/b]
For example - Medium/Medium/Long - gives Medium
For example - Short/Long/Long gives Long
[/quote]
I would like to make a comment here. In the above scenarios where two of the three have same types and the third one differing, Parashara gives a table of reference for deciding the maximum longevity or Paramaayush.
a) If two of the above three pairs indicate a short life and if the third pair indicates medium life, then the paramaayush of the native is 36 years. If the third pair indicates long life, then the paramaayush of the native is 40 years.
b) If two of the above three pairs indicate a medium life and if the third pair indicates short life, then the paramaayush of the native is 64 years. If the third pair indicates long life, then the paramaayush of the native is 80 years.
c) If two of the above three pairs indicate a long life and if the third pair indicates short life, then the paramaayush of the native is 96 years. If the third pair indicates medium life, then the paramaayush of the native is 108 years.
Source: (Text book) Vedic Astrology: An Integrated Approach, by Pandit. Shri. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao. pages 183-184
If someone discovers from their horoscope that they have a short or medium life using this rule, the author clearly states the following "The two methods of outlined here for determining the longevity
category are not infallible. There are some exceptions not covered in this book. So
one should not be biased by these calculations."
Furthermore, such natives can also check using the eighth lord method, prescribed by Parashara and Jaimini. Since this post is about the three pair method, I do not want to dilute the discussion. Interested readers can download the book from the author's home page vedicastrologer(dot)org under the books section and read in chapter 14 on pages 180 to 186 and specifically on page 184 for the 8th Lord method.
Regards,
Prakruthi
I've spent some time on researching in areas of Longevity and the Nature of death. I'll be presenting my findings and understandings in a series of posts in upcoming weeks.
This post is an introduction to the subject of Longevity analysis by using the Three Pairs Rule. This will provide some foundational basis for understanding future posts in this subject.
[b] Step 4 - Combining the Three Indicators [/b]
[b][color=red]If two out of the three indicators are of one type - then the Final Result is that type of majority.[/color][/b]
For example - Medium/Medium/Long - gives Medium
For example - Short/Long/Long gives Long
[/quote]
I would like to make a comment here. In the above scenarios where two of the three have same types and the third one differing, Parashara gives a table of reference for deciding the maximum longevity or Paramaayush.
a) If two of the above three pairs indicate a short life and if the third pair indicates medium life, then the paramaayush of the native is 36 years. If the third pair indicates long life, then the paramaayush of the native is 40 years.
b) If two of the above three pairs indicate a medium life and if the third pair indicates short life, then the paramaayush of the native is 64 years. If the third pair indicates long life, then the paramaayush of the native is 80 years.
c) If two of the above three pairs indicate a long life and if the third pair indicates short life, then the paramaayush of the native is 96 years. If the third pair indicates medium life, then the paramaayush of the native is 108 years.
Source: (Text book) Vedic Astrology: An Integrated Approach, by Pandit. Shri. P.V.R. Narasimha Rao. pages 183-184
If someone discovers from their horoscope that they have a short or medium life using this rule, the author clearly states the following "The two methods of outlined here for determining the longevity
category are not infallible. There are some exceptions not covered in this book. So
one should not be biased by these calculations."
Furthermore, such natives can also check using the eighth lord method, prescribed by Parashara and Jaimini. Since this post is about the three pair method, I do not want to dilute the discussion. Interested readers can download the book from the author's home page vedicastrologer(dot)org under the books section and read in chapter 14 on pages 180 to 186 and specifically on page 184 for the 8th Lord method.
Regards,
Prakruthi
Hello, can any one help me for my Nov 19th query -
Hello, can any one help me in doing the above exercise for me? I'm unable to work on the above principles. Required info as follows: 17th October 1982, 15.45 pm, Repalle town, Guntur district, Andhra Pradesh, India.
Regards,
Lnpk.
Hello, can any one help me in doing the above exercise for me? I'm unable to work on the above principles. Required info as follows: 17th October 1982, 15.45 pm, Repalle town, Guntur district, Andhra Pradesh, India.
Regards,
Lnpk.
Namashkar LNPK,
I would suggest you to download JHora software do this exercise on your own, so that you could learn and understand something new in astrology that you weren't aware of till date.
If you have this software and your chart in front of you, then you can post your doubts and get clarified.
Regards,
Prakruthi
I would suggest you to download JHora software do this exercise on your own, so that you could learn and understand something new in astrology that you weren't aware of till date.
If you have this software and your chart in front of you, then you can post your doubts and get clarified.
Regards,
Prakruthi
Aakaashaath Pathitham Thoyam, Yatha Gacchathi Saagaram.
Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
Sarvadheva Namaskaaraha Keshavam Prathigacchathi!
Sorry Prakruthi garu, I don't have such software; also i'm not good at handling these softwares personally. Request you, to study my birth chart in your free time and share the same to my mail id - LAKSHMINARANatGMAILdotCOM; Other Required info as follows: 17th October 1982, 15.45 pm, Repalle town, Guntur district, Andhra Pradesh, India. Have a nice weekend. Jai Hind & Namaste.
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Ragav
Dear Shirikantji,
If YOGA is 'Ayushman' which indicates Good longevity and health, 3 pair rules says 'Short Life', which one to consider?
With Regards,
Raghavendra
If YOGA is 'Ayushman' which indicates Good longevity and health, 3 pair rules says 'Short Life', which one to consider?
With Regards,
Raghavendra
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anirban1984
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Shrikanth ji How is my Longevity?
19/09/1984, 05:25 AM, NADIA (KOLKATA)
ANIRBAN
19/09/1984, 05:25 AM, NADIA (KOLKATA)
ANIRBAN
Srikathji, in my experience, this is not always right. I will give you two examples
Dr B V Raman was born on August 8, 1912 at 19:40:16.
Lagna Lord and Vriddhakarika 8th lord, Shani is in fixed sign, so short life.
Moon and Saturn in Taurus so short life.
Only Lagna is Aquarius and Hora Lagna is Virgo, giving long life. Here, in this horoscope, not exceptions apply. But he lived to be 86.
Second, take my father's horoscope. He was born on 8 March 1957 in Calcutta at 3:15 am.
Lagnadipati Shani and Vriddhakarika 8th Lord Mercury are both in fixed signs. So short life.
Even moon and Saturn both in fixed signs, so again short life.
Lagna is makar, hora lagna is dhanush, so again short life. No yoga vipreetam or exceptions apply. He is currently 61.
In my experience, the only 4 ways to look at longevity is: analyse D-8, D-30, D-60 and D-108 respectively. In the first and the fourth, check the 8th house and lagna and their lords. In the others, check the 8th house of the divisional chart and 8th lord of the birth horoscope. The sign and house placement, aspects , etc will determine longevity. Specially D 108 is a gem of a horoscope if your birth time is extremely accurate.
Dr B V Raman was born on August 8, 1912 at 19:40:16.
Lagna Lord and Vriddhakarika 8th lord, Shani is in fixed sign, so short life.
Moon and Saturn in Taurus so short life.
Only Lagna is Aquarius and Hora Lagna is Virgo, giving long life. Here, in this horoscope, not exceptions apply. But he lived to be 86.
Second, take my father's horoscope. He was born on 8 March 1957 in Calcutta at 3:15 am.
Lagnadipati Shani and Vriddhakarika 8th Lord Mercury are both in fixed signs. So short life.
Even moon and Saturn both in fixed signs, so again short life.
Lagna is makar, hora lagna is dhanush, so again short life. No yoga vipreetam or exceptions apply. He is currently 61.
In my experience, the only 4 ways to look at longevity is: analyse D-8, D-30, D-60 and D-108 respectively. In the first and the fourth, check the 8th house and lagna and their lords. In the others, check the 8th house of the divisional chart and 8th lord of the birth horoscope. The sign and house placement, aspects , etc will determine longevity. Specially D 108 is a gem of a horoscope if your birth time is extremely accurate.
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hiimnotcool
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Also remember if benefics (Venus, Jupiter, Mercury and Moon) are in angles then that modifies things as well.
My longevity was short, up to 32 years and I'm 33 now. I came closw to dying 2 or 3 times, in 2013 and 2016, but I survived. I have Aries lagna. I think it's because I have Venus, Jupiter and Mercury all in angles. Mars is in 4th house with Mercury and Venus and is aspect ed by Jupiter from 10th house. All the benefics are ganging up on my weak lagna lord but it's for the good.
Also I saw that Rahu in 1st house of Aries nullifies all the ills of the horoscope so that helped too. Not to mention Jupiter and Venus are also both in pushkaramsa further benefitting me and Lagna degree is pushkaramsa also, talk about good luck!
My longevity was short, up to 32 years and I'm 33 now. I came closw to dying 2 or 3 times, in 2013 and 2016, but I survived. I have Aries lagna. I think it's because I have Venus, Jupiter and Mercury all in angles. Mars is in 4th house with Mercury and Venus and is aspect ed by Jupiter from 10th house. All the benefics are ganging up on my weak lagna lord but it's for the good.
Also I saw that Rahu in 1st house of Aries nullifies all the ills of the horoscope so that helped too. Not to mention Jupiter and Venus are also both in pushkaramsa further benefitting me and Lagna degree is pushkaramsa also, talk about good luck!
