MAHAPURUSHA YOGA

[elipsis]

@sai1, your sun is really weak in 10th and also in D9. This means you won't be receiving any favors from higher authorities at workplace. Also there is no Neecha bhanga in your chart.

[elipsis]

thank you so much for replying elepsis but you said that there is neecha bhanga in my chart so will the neecha bhanga help me in receiving help from or favors from higher authorities and if your answer is negative then what parihara should i perform to strengthen my sun and the second question is what should i do to reap the complete benefits of budha aditya yoga please please reply i wont disturb you any more this is my second and last question

When did I say there is neecha bhanga in your chart? - Neech Bhanga is very effective only when a debilitated planet conjuncts an exalted one or if the lord of the debilitated house is in the quadrant from the ascendant.

Anyway, the remedy for this is to respect elders and visit the temple of your 'home God' with them. If your house God is Thimappa, you should visit Tirupati temple, if it is Lord Shiva then visit Srisilam or Arunachaleshwara.

Good luck.

[Hari76]

Hi elipsis

I have a weak Bhadra Yoga due to placement of Budha in 10th house and is also in close conjunction with 5th lord Kuja and is aspected by lagna and 4th lord Guru. But problem is lagnesh is somewhat weak. Also both Budha and Kuja are placed in the nakshatra of 8th lord Chandra. There is also debilitated Shukra to sap the effects of the yoga. Will this still make the yoga active?

6th Sept 1976
14:40
Nagercoil in Tamilnadu

Just tried your method to determine the approx age when my Budha turns up optimum performance. Budhs is exalted in the 10th house at 14° while lagna is Sg at 22°. I have arrived at a figure of about 40 years of age. Could you pls confirm as I am not sure of the longevity ie whether deerghayu or madhyaayu

[elipsis]

Dear hari,

According to parasara, only Venus is malefic for this ascendant and he is weak so there is nothing much to worry about. Moon and Mercury behave as neutrals.

Your chart does have Purnayu Yoga. In order to strengthen your 5th lord, visit Lakshmi-Narashimha or Ugra Narashimha Temple.

Best

[Hari76]

Dear elipsis ji
Thanks. As you said Shukra is debilitated but I think in some respects he attains neecha Bhanga due to conjumction with exalted neutral budha in a kendra from lagna. Does this neecha bhanga increase the maleficity? Also shukra is the dispositor of Rahu so will Rahu also expand the malefic effects coming with an afflicted debilitated shukra?

Also you have not commented upon the presence/absence of Bhadra yoga in my chart. Pls could you..

[Hari76]

Elipsisji
You said Moon & merc are neutrals for Sg lagna. How about Saturn who in my case is placed in 8th in Moons house and in parivartana with Moon? What can I expect from upcoming Sat dasha? I am asking many qns but youknow thats what happens when you suggest remedies in response to a query on yoga

[elipsis]

Dear Hari,

Bhadra yoga is weak. this yoga shouldn't be taken lightly. It requires Sun, Mercury and Jupiter to be abundantly strong. Mercury the significator of speech and shrewdness, Sun denotes your commanding stature and Jupiter shows your in-depth knowledge. Therefore this yoga is termed as rare - very few people have this yoga in full but many experience only mild effects.

Let's talk about Neecha Bhanga- what does it do? It stops the worst from happening, debilitated malefic planets are good but the natives miss out critical opportunities in their lives. Neecha Bhanga ensures you can get what you want after you put up a struggle. Rahu pretty much signifies the same in trish houses, he does less damage but only after you put up a struggle.

Best

Edit: Saturn is also neutral, in 8th house forms Purnayu yoga but the dasa/transits of Saturn can bring ill-health.

[Hari76]

Dear Elipsis ji
Thanks for your analysis & comments.

[Prakruthi]

Namashkar,

I thoroughly enjoy reading your analysis, Elipsis. As a fresh student in astrology, I have been learning so much from your postings. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and keep up the good work.

Regards.
Prakruthi

[elipsis]

Thanks Prakruthi. I'm learning too...

[elipsis]

You do have both the yogas, they give you very good family life (provided horoscopes match)

regds

[VioletTwilight]

Dear elipsis,

I have a confusion regarding the nakshatra pada usage, mentioned earlier int he thread.

Does a graha lose effect being the pada lord only or for being pada and nakshatra lord? For example, if Venus is in the 2nd pada of Ketu nakshatra, does it lose its strength since Ketu-2nd pada is Venus lord? Or does it lose strength only if it is in Venus nakshatra - 3rd pada (Venus-Venus lordship)?
Please clarify.

Also, how does one 'de-activate' their Mahapurusha yogas? Is it by opposition of directional-rulership? (Since you mentioned Jupiter - Mars opposition, I am assuming drik-chakra basis).


Best regards,
Violet

[elipsis]

Nice name...violet

The ownership of the nakshatra is more important- after that comes the relationship between Nakshatra and Pada Lord and the effect it has on a particular planet. A planet transiting it's own pada is bad but the planet transiting it's own star is ok. Padas control the internal mechanics of a planet. The easiest way to understand these concepts is to start by looking at the nakshatra of the moon.

Moon is the significator for the state of mind, the planet is very sensitive and easily imbues the qualities of the eclipsing star. Suppose if Moon transits Revati- the star is owned by Mercury, the state of mind becomes too speedy, impatient and uncontrolled because Mercury is like that. That's his core nature, he does not have the temperament to sit and look through details, the native reads the headlines on the newspaper and immediately forms his own conclusions without reading the rest of the story, he can't sit through exams if he couldn't answer one question. That's what becomes of the mind, too clever and too fast for its own good. What has happened here is Mercury trying to rule over the state of Mind rather than knowledge, Moon became an easy prey and couldn't compete with her own son mercury.

But here is the silver lining, pada 2 and 3 is ruled by saturn. If moon transits 2nd or 3rd pada of Revati, the speediness of the mind is slightly removed, mind becomes controlled- provided Saturn is well placed.

If moon transits its own pada our mind gets confused…we can't make sound decisions, that's because moon has eclipsed itself by transiting its own pada.

So every planet has certain primary duties. Venus is the karaka of marriage, happiness, pleasures and luxuries- and the nakshatra it transits has an effect on the yogas it forms. If Venus transits the pada of venus it gets confused and gives abnormal results, Ketu takes control of the yogas formed by venus because venus has become defunct by eclipsing it's own pada. So we should look at the placement of Ketu to check the yogas formed by venus.

To check the strength of any yoga (whether mahapurusha or not)- the nakshatra and pada lord must occupy favorable positions from the ascendant.

regards

[KET]

Elipsis ji....

Again congratulations..... Nicely tutored on pada and the constellations...

Regards
KET

[elipsis]

ketji, thanks for your continued support.

[Prakruthi]

That's an excellent post. Thank you for sharing.

What happens if for example mercury is in its own nakshatra and there are two other planets that are in the nakshatra of mercury? How do you find the controller of a planet that eclipses itself? Is it dependent on the nakshatra pada? can you please explain with a sample chart?

Furthermore, is this way of analysis applicable only to the yogas or is it applicable to the general way in which a planet functions in a native's horoscope.

For example if a functional malefic venus is placed in mercury's house in Jupiter's nakshatra, venus's pada and if functional benefic jupiter is exalted and placed well, could we say the general treatment of the venus to the native is dependent largely on the benefic jupiter and therefore the functional malefic nature of venus is softened and exalted jupiter drives venus to give the native with material comforts and gains?

Thank you

regards,
Prakruthi

[elipsis]

Dear Prakruthi,

This is a complex subject, I'm going to make it as brief and simple as possible....

This is applicable if you want to extract more information from a horoscope, understanding how planets think, their dignity and mood holds the key to understanding the outcome of any horoscope. You have to understand their psyche, they don't generally behave like the textbooks say, Sun and Saturn don't behave like enemies in some circumstances, if you want to find out why you have to study scriptures and try to decipher what each planet is trying to say.

Functional nature of the planets is applicable only to bhavas. If benefics occupy the karma bhava for every ascendant then every person will reap the same results in their workplace, since that doesn't happen you have to go deeper and find out what's really going on. What makes each of us different? millions of people are born every second nowadays, why aren't they all photocopies of each other? Why don't twins behave the same way if their horoscope is same? Why there aren't millions of Mahapurushas? Standard rules of astrology can never tell you that. Those hidden features shows the limiting factors of a benefic or malefic position of a planet, a clever person will use this knowledge to his own advantage. I'm here tackling only a tiny part of this gigantic science…

As I said earlier a planet transiting it's own star is ok. Because every nakshatra is divided into four quarters, known as padas. In reality there isn't one star but a cluster of stars per nakshatra. For example, Vishaka nakshatra has clusters of stars which in scientific terms are known as α, β, γ and ι Librae.

Mercury transiting its own pada serves well in some cases but it also diminishes the yogas bought by him. Mercury rules over speech, profession, your environment and so on. Everything that 4th and 10th house signifies, if he is too quick in those areas he will take a tumble off the cliff one day and no one will be there to save him. This is what RigVeda teaches us, Rig- means speech and Veda means science. RigVeda is controlling your speech, your actions and your duties. Don't say or do things which you might regret later.

This is the chart of Barack Obama ( http://i.imgur.com/Summ3.png ), you can ask why he makes impressive speeches. His Mercury is in Pushyami, 2nd pada, which is ruled by himself and because he has reduced himself by eclipsing his own pada he is now overpowered by Saturn who happens to be the Ascendant and nakshatra lord. So his speech becomes controlled and the conjunction with the Sun gives him the authority of a ruler.

In case of Dr Manmohan Singh ( http://i.imgur.com/WFasp.png ), his Mercury is in Uttaraphalguni star lorded by Sun and the 4th pada is ruled by Jupiter. So his speech has become authoritative, royal and affectionate at the same time, he does not get involved in controversies and only speaks when he needs to and only when the need arises. A wise man keeps quiet, there is a saying in latin "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses" which translates to "If you kept your mouth shut we might have thought you were clever." So whenever his mercury speaks he speaks only wisdom of Jupiter with the authority of the Sun. But he cannot attract ordinary people like obama does, Saturn represents ordinary folks as he dwells where there is poverty, old age, experience and hardwork. So how can a royal patronage of Sun and Jupiter identify with the ordinary people? They can't but they are great nonetheless because of the power and wisdom they carry.

In the above example- I explained the role of mercury as a speaker, it has several other functions and so does Jupiter, Venus, Saturn and other planet. So it important to understand what function each planet performs and how its functionality varies from different houses and nakshatras.

Regards

[VioletTwilight]

Dear elipsis,

Thank you for a detailed explanation with nakshatra/pada lords and the influences of the nakshatra and pada lords on a graha.

If I understand correctly, the nakshatra and pada lord relationship to a planet is similar to a dasa/antardasa planets. One is more broader influence and the other more specific. If one of them fails and the other is strong, then the overall tendency is mixed. But both must do well to get the best result of a yoga. Each adds its own flavour and focus.

Also, eclipsing own pada is like 'too much of good thing'. So, Moon with sensitivity, Venus with sensuality, Mercury with hyperactivity become disabled while eclipsing their own pada. Is this a good base to start?

Best regards,
Violet

[elipsis]

Dear elipsis,

Thank you for a detailed explanation with nakshatra/pada lords and the influences of the nakshatra and pada lords on a graha.

If I understand correctly, the nakshatra and pada lord relationship to a planet is similar to a dasa/antardasa planets. One is more broader influence and the other more specific. If one of them fails and the other is strong, then the overall tendency is mixed. But both must do well to get the best result of a yoga. Each adds its own flavour and focus.

Also, eclipsing own pada is like 'too much of good thing'. So, Moon with sensitivity, Venus with sensuality, Mercury with hyperactivity become disabled while eclipsing their own pada. Is this a good base to start?

Best regards,
Violet

Violet, that's a very good summary. So, you can now apply these concepts to planetary conjunction or yogas in the chart and find out how effective they are.

[Prakruthi]

That was a very simple yet clear explanation, elipsis. Thank you very much for the same. I am trying to apply that while reading the charts and violet's analogy of nakshatra and pada lords with dasha and antar dasha is also quite intriguing.

Thank you for sharing, folks.

Regards,
Prakruthi

[VioletTwilight]

Dear elipsis,

I was going through your list of nakshatra - pada lords and realized that in essence, being in own house in navamsa is bad, since one navamsa sign = 1 nakshatra pada.

As an extension of it, Mahapurusha Yogas forming in Navamsa are actually a negative?

Best regards,
Violet

[elipsis]

Dear elipsis,

I was going through your list of nakshatra - pada lords and realized that in essence, being in own house in navamsa is bad, since one navamsa sign = 1 nakshatra pada.

As an extension of it, Mahapurusha Yogas forming in Navamsa are actually a negative?

Best regards,
Violet

Dear violet,

Jupiter, Venus and Saturn have their own independent hierarchy, these planets that don't depend on Sun for sustenance- this means they can live or thrive even without Sun, so Vargottama positions or own signs in D9 are acceptable,but when other planets transits their own nakshatra the eclipsing has a bearing on D9 as well- this is not acceptable, so astrologers look at the functional nature of a planet to establish the effectiveness of a yoga. Jupiter and Sun are the natural karakas of 9th house, Venus is a karaka of Marriage and Saturn is the natural enemy of D9.

Also Yogas don't exist in D9 if they don't exist in D1, you can only find an effectiveness of an existing yoga if present in D1.

On a different note, the combustion too has no effect on Jupiter, Venus and Saturn from my own experience.

Best