Celestial Drama in Libra

[dxb2oz]

Thanks - no problems apart from always worrying but my faith in God has helped me a lot. As long as my husband and children are fine then I am fine.

I will no longer attempt any amateur reading of my family's charts - this almost caused me to have a nervous breakdown. You have certainly put my mind at ease and removed whatever mental tension I had these past few days.

God bless you.

[howzat]

thank you madam. God bless you too.

[Saindhavi]

Akanksha,

Congrats for the good news!

Ambisan,

You should gt something good now. Try you best.

Miav,

It's the effect of your prayers that you escaped. Never ever do it again - promise to yourself.

[janaki]

by explorings » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:58 am

My dear friend howzat:

I am a Maharashtrian and I have followed Thackeray's entire life very closely and I am completely aware of his ups and downs and personal/professional struggles. I stay at a hand's throw from Matoshree and I also had the priviledge of meeting him and his entire family up close on more than several occasions. My family also had the priviledge of extending our support during Bindu's accidental death, Meena Tai's funeral, and during his and son's angioplasty. I may not agree with all his principles but only a Maharashtrian will know what he has done for the upliftment of Marathi Manoos, as widely touted by media.

Amen to that...

[howzat]

by janaki » 20 Nov 2012 19:35

by explorings » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:58 am
My dear friend howzat:
I am a Maharashtrian and I have followed Thackeray's entire life very closely and I am completely aware of his ups and downs and personal/professional struggles. I stay at a hand's throw from Matoshree and I also had the priviledge of meeting him and his entire family up close on more than several occasions. My family also had the priviledge of extending our support during Bindu's accidental death, Meena Tai's funeral, and during his and son's angioplasty. I may not agree with all his principles but only a Maharashtrian will know what he has done for the upliftment of Marathi Manoos, as widely touted by media.

Amen to that...

Janaki madam - nicely you have told correct things madam. i put in Google and see what is meaning of amen - it is going to wikis pedia - wikis is telling what you know? - you see down -

"So be it; truly"

correctly you have told madam - Bala Saheb Thackeray has done up liftment of Marathi manoos. you are very good lady.

[janaki]

Howzat,
Thank you for your support.
'Amen' is generally used in Christian worship as a concluding word in prayers. It is also used as a slang to show strong agreement.

Neelkumar,
Did you forget sports and video games?

[Saindhavi]

.....

[explorings]

So you are saying Bala Saheb Thackeray did everything like that because of Guru Chandala yoga? I thought Ketu will give spiritual initiation because he is Being the moksha karaka.- this is told by respected Deepak Bisaria in news letter of journal of astrology.

Please explain to me where I have said so??? I have clearly mentioned that that if he is born in 1926, than as per the planetary combinations Ju was conjunct with Ketu forming the classical GCY. There is also a reason why it is called as "YOGA" and not "DOSHA". GCY is the most misunderstood yoga of all. Just because it has the word "Chandal" in it. GCY gives the person courage to break boundaries and bring transformation in an unconventional way. It also gives the person the ability to fight against odds and challenge the normal thinking, elders, society, etc. It also gives a person a strong personality with rigid principles and ideals. In old days, such unconventional, reforming nature was not well perceived and in today's world it is called as a "go-getter", etc. The native with GCY has a pure intent but the approach for that intent is unconventional and radical (may be appreciated by some and not by others). The exact manifestation of GCY depends on the bhava it takes place (of course aspects, bhangas, etc. count).

Please read Deepak Bisaria's article published in early this year in Journal of Astrology. Furthermore, please read, B.V.Raman's Cathelism of Astrology and K.N. Rao's student, Shiv Raj Sharma's book on "Mysteries of Rahu". I would be happy to discuss about GCY later as long as it is a "Healthy discussion"

I also thought - 12L Guru + Ketu is good for spritual. i learned that only Guru with Rahu conjunct is giving Guru Chandala yoga.

Please read Paulji's articles on GCY, including Nehru's chart which has swashetra, Ju with Ke

Guru chandala means leaving his own religion and associating with foreign religion no? But Did Bala Saheb do like that?

The exact manifestation of GC depends on the bhava it occurs. For someone to change traditional religious values, severe affliction to 2/5/9 houses and lords is necessary. Just a GC does not suffice!! If this was true everyone born in 1926 or 1979-80 or 2011-2012 will change their religions.

he is very famous man no? in 23 january 1926 chart where is yoga to be famous?

My friend, please see a strong exalted moon aspected by swashetra Mars forming the Chandra-Mangalya yoga. As per B.V. Ramanji's book on "Three Hundred Important Combinations": Ch-Ma yoga gives a person the ability courage to fight against odds and establish one's own financial worth esp. if it occurs in 1/5/9/11. If it occurs in 2/8 it shows wealth acquired by family lineage or inheritance, which is why I have mentioned Libra Lagna does not make sense. It also makes a person better leaders than followers. Conflicts with others and emotional turmoil cannot be ruled out.

Similarly, without accurate birth details, we cannot analyze other yogas.

in 1927 chart there is excellent Raja Yoga no? for famous personality? what say?

One cannot just pin a chart or radically change someone's birth details just to have enough Raj Yogas in their chart.

in 1927 chart - death came in Budha - Guru - Rahu - Budha is 6l - Guru is 12L in Marak 2H. Rahu in 6H. so death combination is there no? best part is what you know - in 1926 chart also Budha Guru Rahu is running. funny no?

Vimosattari dasha is calculated from Moon and needs accurate birth time before we start commenting around MD, maraka, etc. If I change the birth time to 12pm, you get Mer-Sa dasha.

[explorings]

So like this mr explorings - we can do for many years - explaining - putting lagna in different rasi - then changing month and year - and then fitting everything. this is correct ah - i am asking. that is why i told - unless TOB is certain - simply dont write what and all is coming to the mind - just to fill page. you only said this no?

My friend, at your strong request I provided my analysis based on planetary positions on jan 23, 1926. I also explained why we cannot consider Libra or Capricorn as his lagna based on these planetary combinations. However, without having exact birth details there is nothing to prove or predict based on bhava/lagna chart. One can only give analysis purely based on planetary positions.

by explorings » 20 Nov 2012 09:58
As both of us have mentioned earlier, you can put lagna anywhere and give your predictions and match it with some events of the person's life,

you say on road in mumbai that Bala Saheb is having Guru chandala yoga means - what will happen to you? you might be Bala saheb neighabour - but if you say he has Guru chandala and all means for you no - what they will do - i only cant imagine baba. see what they are doing to two girls who did tweet on tweeter - and facebooks. one girl only did like on other girls facebooks- she is also sitting inside.

My friend, this is where a strong leader like him remains highly misunderstood. His intent was pure his approaches were radical. Although I do not agree with all his principle, activities, and approaches, one should be mature enough to take good and leave the bad. Bal Thackeray on several occasions has advised Marathi manoos to become as courageous, as brave, as fearless as Shivaji Maharaj himself. He has motivated several people to take a positive stand for their own Siddhants and not be scared or worried or have "Baap re or Aai ga or i can only imagine baba" - attitude, or what others will think and what evil consequences one may face. His formation of a pro-Marathi party was not to instill fear, etc. through the party members but was for upliftment of the Maharashtrians.

I do not wish to comment on FB-comment case nor about the decision on her uncle's clinic's involvement. All, I can say is the party lead and several of Thackeray's family members had requested everyone to maintain calm during the time of grief. Others should avoid instilling fear in others by providing such examples.

what saindhavi madam she told about Bala saheb you know mr explorings? -

- Rahu is in his own Ardra Nakshatra.
According to Varahamihira -
Ardra Nakshatra gives the native wickedness, ingratitude, vanity.
- His Moon is in Hasta Nakshatra.
According to Varahamihira, Hasta Nakshatra makes a native forthright, merciless and prone to thieving tendency.Only with a person with his kind of Rahu and Saturn Nakshatras and with his Moon Nakshatra could have been a hateful fanatic like him. I don't have to say more about the black mark on humanity that was Bal Thackeray.PS - Howzat, this is why you should read Varahamihira apart from Parashara.

what this and all? all top top big big peoples are coming for funeral. 5 laks peoples are paying respects and crying. whole mumbai is stop for him. here she is telling - he is black mark on human. what this? and how she is saying and doing justify? by analysing wrong horoscope. then she is telling i must read Varahamihira.

She wrote it once and you reposted it thrice

Because i said why you are doing like this Saindhavi madam - you get angry and come here full force - you are not understanding what I am trying to say only. only you are saying - dont do banter - dont do dispariging. why you say like that? what you will say for words she is using for Bala saheb? tell.

My friend, not once I have mentioned anything against you in what could be presumed as an angry tone. I have repeatedly used the word request (meaning: politely ask) in several of my sentences. Please read carefully, I do not have any hidden agendas for belittling or intimidating anyone!!


leave it. you are not understanding only. all my fault no. ok.

[explorings]

Howzat:

I have provided my analysis based on 1926 data and also provided my insights on why Capricorn or Libra cannot be his birth Lagna. If you wish to engage in a healthy discussion purely from an astrological POV, please provide your counter-analysis. Please refrain from commenting and exaggerating on one single statement in a 2-post analysis.

If you believe that 1927 data is apt then please post your analysis for the same. I would also like you to comment beyond Raj Yogas, especially about his ideological differences and conflicts with several family members including son and nephew, ex-party members such as Chhagan Bhujbal and Narayan Rane, and above all his mentor Acharya Atre.

Since I do not have access to his birth certificate, I have nothing to comment on 1927 data, until I get enough credible evidence that he indeed was born in 1927.

[rita]

Saindhaviji, Yellow,

My health has also been down since Sat 17th Nov. I have delicate health anyway, but past few days stomach problems, throat problems and general feeling of weakness have all got worse.

[Saindhavi]

Rita

you will get better now. Mercury is out of Sandhi now.

[skp23]

Del

[explorings]

I love transit. They are the messenger of UTTER CHAOS!!!!

In transit:
- Jupiter, karaka for wisdom, philosophy, etc. is retro, weak, and conjunct with debilitated Ketu.
- Mercury, karaka for speech and intelligence is retro, weak, and in close proximity with debilitated Rahu.
- Mars is aspected by exalted Saturn.
- Sun is afflicted by Rahu

What can you expect!!

[Saindhavi]

Explorings,

Mercury has crossed over to Libra and joined exalted Saturn and Venus.

[rita]

Rita

you will get better now. Mercury is out of Sandhi now.

Thank you Saindhaviji. I really hope I feel stronger soon, as I have a hectic week coming up. A wedding to attend at the weekend and relatives coming over from abroad. At the moment I just feel like resting all the time

[explorings]

Explorings,

Mercury has crossed over to Libra and joined exalted Saturn and Venus.

True, which is why I have refrained on using the word conjunction. I still believe Rahu effect on Mercury to be present or to have existed in the last couple of days (nov 17-18).

My tiny, LL is still in conflict with internet banters (Rahu in 3H)... so for me the transitory effect of Rahu on Mercury seems to still exist.

[basab14]

Thanks for the feedback, Rita ji. It's very interesting that you have also been facing health issues like me and Saindhavi ji... all three of us have the same ascendant.

Saindhaviji, Yellow,

My health has also been down since Sat 17th Nov. I have delicate health anyway, but past few days stomach problems, throat problems and general feeling of weakness have all got worse.

[Saindhavi]

Explorings,

You will know for sure this Wednesday - Wednesday is not only the day for Mercury, but it's the day when Rahu is most powerful in a week. Observe this Wednesday.

I think it's more because your Mercury is weak. So, you are taking time to draw energy from this powerful conjunction - just as I am taking time, because of a combust Saturn.

[neelkumar]

I don’t know why I am bumping onto ex-office colleagues. Totally unprepared for such situations. My dreams turning into intuitions.
Also the watchman had recently told me that he likes my lifestyle that’s calm and peaceful. His comment scared me. Evil eye?
I am happy to be out of town for the time being.
Any suggestions which regions in India may be fortunate for me to live? I am not fond of north India. I like mountains and islands and low temperatures.

Neelkumar,
Did you forget sports and video games?

Janaki,
Haha I am not fond of video games. Sports yes!

[howzat]

by explorings » 20 Nov 2012 21:40
Howzat:
I have provided my analysis based on 1926 data and also provided my insights on why Capricorn or Libra cannot be his birth Lagna. If you wish to engage in a healthy discussion purely from an astrological POV, please provide your counter-analysis.
If you believe that 1927 data is apt then please post your analysis for the same. I would also like you to comment beyond Raj Yogas, especially about his ideological differences and conflicts with several family members including son and nephew, ex-party members such as Chhagan Bhujbal and Narayan Rane, and above all his mentor Acharya Atre.

Dear explorings - i am not believe in 1926 data - I am not believe believe in 1927 data. I am not believe his birthday might be 23 January also. what analysis to give you? tell.

that is why i told - why we are doing speculation and fitting things?. you asked me to explain ideological differences - I have to do fitting for both 1926 and 1927 horoscope. any horoscope is only not correct means - what to tell about ideological differences and all?

that is why i am saying before -

howzat wrote:So like this mr explorings - we can do for many years - explaining - putting lagna in different rasi - then changing month and year - and then fitting everything. this is correct ah - i am asking. that is why i told - unless TOB is certain - simply dont write what and all is coming to the mind - just to fill page.

You also agreed and agree with me no?

GC yoga - we can discuss - but not with 1927 1926 1932 data and all. - why I put Most respected Dr hedgewar sahebs horoscope you know? just to show the peoples that Guru Chandal yog is misunderstood yog. so i put. I put detail on LOVA only after reading Respected Deepak Bisaria article. i told you to read it. I also am reading Mystery of Rahu in a Horoscope before i put Respected Dr Hedgewar Saheb detail on LOVA. one thing you know dear explorings - when i put anything on internets - i am doing cross checking - many many times from diffeerent different resources. why i am putting so much troubles you know? once put means - googles is catching. after that no - wnat if we do also - it is permanent. that is why - total nonsense if finding on internets - full muncipal kachra vans is require to remove garbage of internets. so much is there. new new peoples are coming - reading what and all - then spreading what and all. what this?

like that.

[rathodp]

Have not been able to follow this thread fully so sorry to ask if already is in this thread
I am Virgo Rashi and taurus lagna,things were turning out fine after Saturn moved back to libra but for the past few days have lost peace of mind,sleep is for not more then 3 hours anger is at an all time high with everyone.
What could be the reason and any remedies,read somewhere in this thread of some gangup by plannets but not sure what it was.

[explorings]

see below - i am giving reference for Capricorn lagna. I have also provide 2 valid reference for a capricorn lagna chart. correct or not - you please tell.

LT COL Raj Kumar has given following data - now take Bal sahebs horoscope with Capricorn lagna.
page 338 - born 23 Jan 1927 at 7AM Mumbai. put and see. Capricorn is coming.

http://karmanyaastro.com/_Bal_Thackeray.html

explorings - so we are discussing horoscope or not? please tell.

Dear explorings - i am not believe in 1926 data - I am not believe believe in 1927 data. I am not believe his birthday might be 23 January also. what analysis to give you? tell.

that is why i told - why we are doing speculation and fitting things?. you asked me to explain ideological differences - I have to do fitting for both 1926 and 1927 horoscope. any horoscope is only not correct means - what to tell about ideological differences and all?

GC yoga - we can discuss - but not with 1927 1926 1932 data and all. - why I put Most respected Dr hedgewar sahebs horoscope you know? just to show the peoples that Guru Chandal yog is misunderstood yog. so i put. I put detail on LOVA only after reading Respected Deepak Bisaria article. i told you to read it. I also am reading Mystery of Rahu in a Horoscope before i put Respected Dr Hedgewar Saheb detail on LOVA. one thing you know dear explorings - when i put anything on internets - i am doing cross checking - many many times from diffeerent different resources. why i am putting so much troubles you know? once put means - googles is catching. after that no - wnat if we do also - it is permanent. that is why - total nonsense if finding on internets - full muncipal kachra vans is require to remove garbage of internets. so much is there. new new peoples are coming - reading what and all - then spreading what and all. what this?

like that.

ROFL!!! This post just made my day!

I thought, you wanted us to discuss on Jan 23, 1927 as balsaheb thackeray's birth chart.

Meaning of discussion: examining/reviewing details, informal debate between two or more individuals. If only you had made it clear that I had to discuss this chart with me and myself I would have not burnt the midnight oil

Please refrain from undermining, belittling, and intimidating others if you have no intentions to provide logical explanations from astrological POV.

This is why I have repeatedly and humbly requested you to take your banter elsewhere.

As far as as Dr. Hedgewar's horoscope goes, I do not have his data but I shall discuss it with me and myself at my own discretion!!

Please, please, please take your banter to a different thread. Many thanks and much appreciated!!!

P.S.: Any person who has studied GCY is aware of most of the articles published on GCY.

[skp23]

One month from now is 21 dec 2012, as indicated by Mayans for end of world

Everyone from astrology says nothing will happen !!

[neelkumar]

One month from now is 21 dec 2012, as indicated by Mayans for end of world

Everyone from astrology says nothing will happen !!

Skp23,
Don’t worry.
Actually, if it’s correct/true, then it will be a positive development. December 21 onwards interpret transformation and spiritual awakening. New thinking, opportunities, changes in the world dynamics, etc. - all positive.
This is just one calendar being exchanged for another – as the deity associated with the new calendar changes.

P.S. Indian Vedic astrology-wise, wait until mid-January, 2013 for better times, for most people.