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Saindhavijee,
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Saindhavi ji,

About your friend, I don't think she would have got the job, even if she had done the remedies. I don't believe remedies help because I have talked to many people who have told me the same thing that remedies have not helped them in any way.
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Dear Skp,

A friend of mine recently joined her husband in the US, leaving her job in India. The couple knew each other since their college days. Now my friend cooks, cleans, and constantly looks for a job. She recently got her H1 via some agent. But still has no job. A very difficult situation to be in, if you have had a full fledged life back home.

Another friend of mine, arranged marriage, came to the US in 2008. She was able to go back home this year. Back in India she was a full professional. Here in the US it took her 5 years to rebuild a spec of what she had in India. Very recently, I received a distressed call from her, expressing that her husband wanted to move back to India while she was finally about to embark on her career in the US

I am not aware how long you have been married. But generally it takes time for the wine to taste good. Living in a different country with no work can be very difficult. I trust you have tried to make your life easy by securing a kind friend a two other than your husband? Might not be a bad idea to engage yourself in something at a daily level till you find a job? A hobby? A class? An activity?

Going to India is never a bad idea. You must meet your mum. But no point sitting in the flight, stressed and with a heartache, either after giving one or receiving one. A short trip maybe is not a bad idea, but the motives should be pleasant. Distance can cool off things if used wisely. And anyway, which relationship was ever a cakewalk?
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As far as I know remedies do make a huge difference but only secret is persistence God knows that souls will resort to remedies and one more thing that comes into play here is IShta and Anishta punya....so sometimes these two collide and the remedies effects are not seen immediately but let me assure the forum members keep on trying then someday it will actually lead to a huge difference in our lives ,please do not stop doing remedies....
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Sorry my post is too long, i will delete after few hrs
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Heart Wrenching SKP23. May God bless u nd keep you happy.
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Wat I am trying to say is all this is "Prarabdha Karma" so better to accept it rather than run away from it ,because otherwise these things have to be undergone again in the successive births
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@SKP

I am speechless , but i am sure of one thing .. whatever u do GOD will walk alongside you .

No Daughter , No Sister , No Friend , No Gurl ... should ever be treated Like that , Let alone a wife , whom we call "Sangni" BTW , which means someone who walks beside you neither ahead of you , nor behind you .... so a husband shud walk along with her too ... ALWAYS .

GOD bless you
Its been a while since I have prayed , but tomorrow i will and I an sure God will Listen and be with you in every way .

Take care
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Skp,

Take it that your remedies have shown you why you should take a strong stand. Only till a few days ago you were trying to justify why you should be quiet when he mistreats you and I was being blamed of "misguiding you."

This is the effect of remedies that you are taking a strong stand now. As I said, remedies don't give you what you want. If you are destined to come out of your troubles, they lead you out of troubles in a manner you never thought was possible.

And if you were not destined to come out of troubles, you would not perform any remedies in the first place - because you would have been destined to face the sufferings brought by planets in your chart.

I gave the example of my friend - she was not destined to get a career at this time in life, so she didn't do remedies.

I don't advise you about whether you should leave or not leave. That is for you to decide.

I am sorry for being forthright, but I guess by now everyone knows I am nothing if not forthright.

We all need to understand that a relationship and marriage - is everyone's responsibility. It can't be a one way process.

If a person - man or woman - wants to have a relationship, she or he must invest in it with honesty, responsibility and commitment.

If one person keeps on investing and the other keeps on shirking his responsibility to invest, a relationship or marriage can't sustain itself.

And there has to be absolute honesty in a relationship at all cost. There is no point in having a relationship based on secretive means and ulterior motives - whether by man or woman.

In the end I would like to say that if you are really worth your education, get your Green Card by your own efforts - not by depending upon his application - even if you didn't marry him for this purpose.

Tell him that you don't want him to apply for your Green Card - you'll get it yourself.

If he is capable of getting a Green Card on the basis of his education, why can't you get it on your own?

Thousands of people get a US GC on their own every year, why can't you get it after being so well qualified?

Show him that you can get it on your own - go through the grind mill of H1B, temporary work permits, permanent residency and citizenship.

You don't have to hang on to his whims of when and in how many stages he applies for your Green Card.

My aunt in 1950s emigrated to the US on her own effort - she was also a medical doctor educated in India. Her husband went with her on a spouse visa.

She built her entire medical career on her own in the US - graduating from work permits to short term residency to H1b to GC ad citizenship - entirely on her own.

Her husband lost a leg in a fire accident and lived an invalid life, without working and living on spouse visa all his life.

She worked in late night hours, built a flourishing practice and today she has enough money to buy a small town of India - all by her own efforts and managing an invalid husband all these years, who died only recently.

If my aunt could do it in 1950s, why can't you do it in 21st century?

Why do you wait for your husband to apply for your GC and to take orders from him about when you should work and when you should not work and what you should wear?

Honestly, if I were you, I would take a license to practice medicine and I would work on my own to get a US citizenship, rather than wait for my husband to file for my GC - even if he was a loving and caring husband.

I really look upon my aunt as my role model in this matter.

Anyway, it's your decision what you should do.

I only wanted to say that the Goddess has shown you the way how to become like her - powerful and courageous, not like a meek, silent maidservant in your own house. This is the effect of your remedies.
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Skp ji,

I really don't know what to say. I am really stunned after reading what you had to go through. I will not advice you on what you should do or what you shouldn't do, but only wish that God helps you wherever you are and takes care of you, always. I am sure He will do that.
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Skp,

I will pray for you that you come of this situation soon and not suffer further in life. Always remember one thing, God help those who help themselves.
Whatever you decide, think several times, you also need to think if you really want a baby with such kind of person who will humiliate you in front of your children. At the same you also need to think if you are moving out of this relationship how you decide to lead your life further. There is no bigger service than serving humanity but the path will be difficult and not easier than what you are going through.

I am with you in whatever you decide, if one door closes there is always another door opened beforehand by God.
I am letting go of the thoughts that do not make me strong.
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True Story of Miss India 2009 - an inspiring story for everyone..!!
--- Neera Chopra is her mother. This is her story.---

-- Neera Chopras story:---

"I don’t know where to begin... they were terrible times. My husband was well-placed, but the marriage had begun to sink almost as soon as it began. Like most women do, I tried to work against all the odds .

My in-laws insisted everything would be alright if I had a son. My first child was a daughter, and that didn’t do me any good... but I couldn’t walk out. I had lost my father, my brother was in a not-so-senior position in Bata. I didn’t want to be a burden on my family and continued to live in my marital home in Kolkata.

I looked after my mother-inlaw, who was suffering from cancer, and while bathing her, I would tell myself she would bless me and put things right.

I don’t know how I tolerated it all. The least a man can do, if he must philander, is to not flaunt his women in his wife’s face. Then began the manhandling. I still wanted my marriage to survive. I was a pure vegetarian and learnt to cook non-vegetarian delicacies thinking it would please him.

Then, I was pregnant again. When Pooja was eight months in my womb, my husband brought a girl to the house and announced he would marry her. I thought of killing myself. I hung on the slight hope that if the baby was a boy, my marriage could be saved.

When Pooja was born a girl, for three days, nobody came to the hospital. There was a squadron leader’s wife on the opposite bed, who was kind enough to give me baby clothes for Pooja to wear. When she was 20 days old, I had to make a choice. I left the house with my girls ‘ Pooja and Shubra, who was seven then. I haven’t seen my husband since. I promised myself, even if we had just one roti, we would share it, but together.

I began life in Mumbai with the support of my mother, brother, who was by then married. It wasn’t the ideal situation, especially when he had children - space, money, everything was short. I began work at the Taj Colaba and got my own place. How did I manage? Truth be told, I would put a chatai on the floor, leave two glasses of milk and some food, and bolt the door from outside before going to work. I would leave the key with the neighbours and tell the kids to shout out to them when it was time to leave for school.

Their tiny hands would do homework on their own, feed themselves on days that I worked late. My elder daughter Shubhra would make Pooja do her corrections... This is how they grew up. At a birthday party, Pooja would not eat her piece of cake, but pack it and bring it home to share with her sister. When Shubhra started working, she would skip lunch and pack a chicken sandwich that she would slip in her sister’s lunchbox the next day.

I used to pray, ‘God, punish me for my karma, but not my innocent little kids. Please let me provide them the basics.’ I used to struggle for shoes, socks, uniforms. I was living in Bangur Nagar, Goregaon. Pooja would walk four bus stops down to the St Thomas
Academy . Then, too little to cross the road, she would ask a passerby to help her. I had to save the bus money to be able to put some milk in their bodies.
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Life began to change when I got a job for Rs 6,000 at the then Goa Penta. Mr Chhabra, the owner, and his wife, were kind enough to provide a loan for me. I sent my daughters to my sister’s house in Pune, with my mother as support. I spent four years working in Goa while I saved to buy a small one-bedroom house in Pune (where the family still lives). I would work 16-18 hours a day, not even taking weekly offs to accumulate leave and visit my daughters three or four times a year.

Once I bought my house and found a job in Pune, life began to settle. I worked in Hotel Blue Diamond for a year and then finally joined Mainland China ‘ which changed my life. The consideration of the team and management brought me the stability to bring them up, despite late hours and the travelling a hotelier must do.

Shubhra got a job in Hotel Blue Diamond, being the youngest employee there while still in college, and managed to finish her Masters in commerce and her BBM. Today, she is married to a sweet Catholic boy who is in the Merchant Navy and has a sweet daughter.

I continue to finish my day job and come home and take tuitions, as I have done for all these years. I also do all my household chores myself.

Through the years, Shubhra has been my anchor and Pooja, the rock. Pooja’s tiny hands have wiped away my tears when I broke down. She has stood up for me, when I couldn’t speak for myself. Academically brilliant, she participated in all extra-curricular activities. When she needed high heels to model in, she did odd shows and bought them for herself.

When I saw Pooja give her speech on TV, I knew it came from her heart. I could see the twinkle in her eye. And I thought to myself as she won ‘My God, this is my little girl.’ God was trying to tell me something.

Today, I’ve no regrets. I believe every cloud has a silver lining. As a mother, I’ve done nothing great."

Pantaloons Femina Miss India Pooja Chopra’s mother promised, ‘One day, this girl will make me proud’.


Pooja speaks on fulfilling that promise... "When I was 20 days old, my mother was asked to make a choice. It was either me, a girl child, or her husband. She chose me. As she walked out she turned around and told her husband, ‘One day, this girl will make me proud’. That day has come. Her husband went on to marry a woman who gave him two sons. Today, as I stand here a Miss India, I don’t even know if my father knows that it is me, his daughter, who has set out to conquer the world, a crown on my head.


"Our lives have not been easy, least so for my mother. Financially, emotionally, she struggled to stay afloat, to keep her job and yet allow us to be the best that we could be. I was given only one condition when I started modelling ‘ my grades wouldn’t drop.

"All the girls in the pageant worked hard, but my edge was my mother’s sacrifice, her karma. Today, when people call to congratulate me, it’s not me they pay tribute to, but to her life and her struggle. She’s the true Woman of Substance. She is my light, my mentor, my driving force."

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Felt like posting it here, sorry Saindhavi ji, it is off topic.
I am letting go of the thoughts that do not make me strong.
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Akanksha,

Welcome to the frequent contributors' group - with your admirable examples of what determination can do! 8)

Skp,

I know everything about US visa rules. This is a familiar territory for me.

The question is whether one wants to go through the grind mill to get it on one's own effort.

The question is also whether the man really wants to show in his actions that he loves a woman.

Our intentions have to be reflected in our actions. No one can read our minds to know what kind of intentions we have.

If I am not going through the hard way to get a Green Card by my own efforts, what's the hard-core evidence of whatever noble intention I had of getting married to a man?

By arguing it's difficult to get, we are really arguing that we want it through marriage - then the husband is proved right.

[I know you didn't argue like this. I am just speaking from all angles.]

In order to prove him wrong, we have to show we can get it ourselves, no matter how difficult it is.

And if my husband does not show in his actions that he loves me truly, then what's the hard-core evidence of whatever feelings he may have in his mind for me?

Again, by arguing that he really loves his wife but doesn't show it because of whatever reasons, we are only proposing excuses for his uncivilised behaviour - and also justifying his uncivilised behaviour.

If he has to show that he really loves his wife, he has to show it in his actions.

There can be no other way about it.

As I said, I am not advising you about anything. Just trying to show things in their perspective - as they appear from outside, when seen objectively.

I know I am being blunt, but as I said, I am nothing if not blunt.
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http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12791&p=124553#p124488

hymns -

1 http://www.vignanam.org/

2 http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11446&start=75#p93038
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Dear Skp,

Sorry to hear all this. It sounds like a very, very difficult situation.
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by Saindhavi » 19 Nov 2012 08:25
Howzat,
Don't copy broken links in your quoted text.
broken link means what? what you wrote I copied and quoted.
by Saindhavi » 19 Nov 2012 08:25
I know that you were the only other person reading this thread when I wrote my post.
so I am only one reading this thread when you wrote post. that is a crime ah? what you are writing madam?
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by neelkumar » 19 Nov 2012 11:34
Howzat buddy, maybe you would want to calm down a little bit. Let Saindhaviji predict the charts based upon her own knowledge, experience and assumptions. It’s a democratic society and also forum, so, let’s welcome different predictions and opinions. But not challenge them.

in the mornings You called saindhavi a weirdo and insanes because she is comparing your chart to Bal Keshav Thackeray - respected Moderator sir has deleted your post. you are telling me to calm down. what this? please mind your own business.
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howzat:

I personally read all the analysis provided by Saindhaviji on this forum including presumed charts of Chunkey Pandey as well as Bal Thackarey.... and some correlation could be drawn based on those presumed charts with the timeline of events in the native's life; however, since there is no way to have access to their true birth certificates, it is very difficult to challenge any reading/chart. She has given a logical explanation to charts, including Chunkey Pandey's charts and there is no need for criticizing her for not having correct birth details.

All you need to do is provide your logical explanation why do you think it could not be possible, that is what the forum is for.... healthy discussion on astrology. It is not for undermining the astrologer for providing incorrect birth details.

I am aware of Thackeray's life and his personal as well as professional struggles, including his exceptional leadership acumen and political activities, hence I am confident enough to state that he the chart/s (or birth details) provided by "Astrosage" (Note: not saindhaviji) is incorrect!!!!

I am yet to see a chart of Thackeray's with Libra or Capricorn Lagna!!

Humble Request: Please take your banter to a different thread.
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As per Muhurtha Chintamani in transit , Sun five days before entering the new sign, Mars eight days before, Mercury seven days before , Venus seven days before entering the new sign, Moon three Ghati before , Rahu three months before , Saturn six months before and Jupiter two months before entering the new sign, starts giving the result of next sign. Kindly test the rule. regards
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by explorings » 19 Nov 2012 22:41
howzat:
I personally read all the analysis provided by Saindhaviji on this forum including presumed charts of Chunkey Pandey as well as Bal Thackarey.... and some correlation could be drawn based on those presumed charts with the timeline of events in the native's life; however, since there is no way to have access to their true birth certificates, it is very difficult to challenge any reading/chart. She has given a logical explanation to charts, including Chunkey Pandey's charts and there is no need for criticizing her for not having correct birth details.
where i have criticize her? please tell. giving logical explaination - even i can give for 12 rasi. please dont tell about logical explaination and all. you can put lagna anywhere and give story. if birth certificate is not there - then dont analyse chart. sit quiet
All you need to do is provide your logical explanation why do you think it could not be possible, that is what the forum is for.... healthy discussion on astrology. It is not for undermining the astrologer for providing incorrect birth details.

I am also doing healthy discussion only
I am aware of Thackeray's life and his personal as well as professional struggles, including his exceptional leadership acumen and political activities, hence I am confident enough to state that he the chart/s (or birth details) provided by "Astrosage" (Note: not saindhaviji) is incorrect!!!!
how do you know? prove it.
I am yet to see a chart of Thackeray's with Libra or Capricorn Lagna!!
I have not seen himalaya. does it mean it is not there?
Humble Request: Please take your banter to a different thread.
why? you own this thread and forum ah?
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Saindhavi ji,
I always believed that forgiving & forgetting are very important in every relation, so was doing my part.
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