Celestial Drama in Libra

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basab14
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Aseem,

Just now I realized something about my chart. I had never thought this way before: in my chart only Saturn aspects the ascendant and ascendant lord—no other planet has any influence on my ascendant and ascendant lord in my chart. My atmakarak is also Saturn. It means I will have strong attributes of Saturn. Maybe that is why I started taking interest in spirituality in my Saturn sub-period.

Yes, you are right: something come, stays with us sometime, and then, goes away, and something else comes after that and replaces the previous thing. Nothing is permanent in this world.

Yes, ups and downs keep happening in this world, as the wheel of time keeps rolling. Nothing is constant—everything is subject to change. Astrology shows it to us very clearly—a good period comes and a person achieves success, and then, a bad period comes, and he fails miserably.

One needs to stay detached, I agree. Saturn the planet of detachment is aspecting my ascendant and ascendant lord, and it is the only planet, which influences my ascendant, so I am sure I will develop this detachment in about life to some extent. Too much detachment turns a person into a saint, which I don’t want to be—and I feel Venus my ascendant lord in own sign will take care of that.

About Mars, you are right, it is in the ‘house of flowers’ in my chart, and it’s in that house, where it matters the most. Destiny is fair in its justice—it doesn’t snatch everything from a person: if it takes something, it gives something in return.

About Mahatma Gandhi, he had Libra ascendant and only Rahu-Moon in his 10th house in Cancer, just like I have it, and his Rahu major period was exceptionally good for him. So I am not sure if my Rahu is bad.
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I am not sure Mahatma Gandhi's time of birth is correct. It can't be ascertained for such old charts.

I know KN Rao has given his chart, but I don't have much faith in KN Rao and his charts of famous people.

Sagittarian Mars in 3rd not only enhances 3rd and 6th houses, it blocks the benefic qualities of 9th and 10th houses - one is his inimical sign and the other is his debilitating sign.

Sagittarian Mars is not good for Libra Ascendant. But Saturn may counter it to a large extent.

Your life is proof enough that Rahu is malefic in your chart.

Rita,

I am not Libra Rashi, but Libra Ascendant.

You have not said where Saturn is in your chart.

Rahu malefic in 8th can give incurable illnesses like Cancer, neurological and psychological problems and Ulcers etc, but pain in bones is Saturn's domain.

Combustion of Saturn in your Rashi 1st house ma have caused it, as well as the delays.

This has to be matched with your Saturn and the general health condition in your chart.

I have experienced delays in getting results in professional field, not in travel - as I am not planning to travel.

In the beginning of Saturn's transit into Libra I had some minor health problems that got resolved later - my Saturn is partially combust and my health condition is good, so in my case this problem was only minor.

Take good care of yourself. It may be that you are exposing yourself to cold.

SKP23,

I have had several such experiences since August. It looks as if I am going to get it, people are very interested to give me, but in the last minute it doesn't materialise for some mysterious reasons. I have been offered double the money I asked for, a higher position than what I wanted and same organisation has come back to me 3 times because I am the best person for the position - not in 1, but in several cases. But in the end, it didn't materialise. Some other applications are pending decision.

These are signs of economy in recession and rising inflation. US is coming out of recession, so you may get it.

As I said above, after 14th of Nov when Sun comes out of eclipse and Saturn comes out of combustion, you may get it, especially being Aquarius Lagna.
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hymns -

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2 http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11446&start=75#p93038
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I present here the charts of a friend (not a celebrity, but well-acclaimed in his discipline) -

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Born in wealthy aristocratic family in a village, hence early education was in village school.

Student of language and literature. Topped in college in the whole State.

Studied in a prestigious university of India. Always topped in University.

During most of 1990s, struggled for job.

Had many relationships with girls. All of them wanted to marry him. He broke all of them in the end.

In 1998, came very close to marrying a girl of his choice. Some people conspired against him behind his back and succeeded in breaking the relation and getting him married in the arranged marriage system.

His wife came from a wealthy and well-connected family but he was not happy in this marriage for sometime.

This influential marriage helped him to get a prestigious academic job.

Has many publications and has visited abroad for short trips.

Tried for immigration in mid-1990s, but didn't succeed and later abandoned the plan. Now doesn't want to go abroad.

Is very good-looking and looks younger than his age. His wife is average looking.

Got a high-level promotion recently in September.

Mahadasha combination running at the time of promotion - Rahu-Saturn-Rahu.

Current transit at the time of promotion - See beginning of September transit.


Any thoughts regarding all this?
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http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12791&p=124553#p124488

hymns -

1 http://www.vignanam.org/

2 http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11446&start=75#p93038
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1) So am I headed towards even more worst time from Nov 14/17th and Dec till mid Jan with Rahu sandhi and Jup-Jup-Rahu?
2) Shall I wear Gomed? I have the ring and had taken it off?
3) Yesterday and till now I have been very peaceful.
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Basab Bhai,

Here is the short details about Lord Saturn in 11th house-
Saturn in the Eleventh House
Sutras 46-48: If Saturn is in the eleventh house, the native will be very wealthy but there will be obstacles in his way. He will also be owner of landed property and a favourite of Government. If Saturn is in his own sign or in his sign ofexaltation the native will be learned and enjoy Mahabhagya Yoga (causing prosperity of a very high order) and comforts of all kinds of conveyances.

OTHER VIEWS
Brihat Jataka: The person concerned will be wealthy.

Phaldeepika: The native will be courageous, healthy, wealthy, longlived and will own immovable property.

Saravali: Same as Phaldeepika.

Chamatkar Chintamani: The native will always be wealthy and courageous
Besides Guru also there. As per SK Mehta ji, the combination of Guru and Saturn is actually a Rajyoga of a very High Order as they naturally rule 9th and 10th in any chart.

You need more proof? Look at your elder sibling and judge for yourself. This clearly shows that your 11th house is actually strong.

I have 2 charts with me who have Lord Saturn in 11th house in Leo. They call came to high level prosperity after 35 or 40 years old. Their success came but very late and it was permanent.
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Aseem,

1) What if Saturn is in 11th but retrograde?

2) What if Sat-Jup conjunction is in 8th house, for Aquarius lagna?
I am letting go of the thoughts that do not make me strong.
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5 straight hours to go before i know what is going to happen to me... my heart has been beating at twice the normal rate for hours... all kind of scary thoughts.. from them stopping me from writing exam today.. to a enquiry before writing today's exam.. to i dont know what, are going through my mind..
Any last minute suggestions?
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Aseem,

I agree with you that Saturn is very well placed in my chart, and it's conjunction with Jupiter is quite good. I even remember reading in Vaughn Paul's article that as Jupiter-Saturn double transit on a house shows focus on that house during the transit, so even in a natal chart, the house where Jupiter and Saturn both aspects or both are together, the significations of that house gets highlighted all through the person's life. I think it is mentioned in his article on double transit here on his website.

Yes, my elder brother is doing extremely well in life and has been a success throughout. Saturn-Jupiter in the 11th house in my chart, and the 11th lord, Sun, in the 9th house with 9th lord, Mercury, shows it.

It's interesting to hear that you have 2 charts with Saturn in Leo, exactly like in my chart. I completely agree with you that Saturn being a delayer, when placed in the 11th house of gains, it delays gains for the person. And then Saturn influences my ascendant and ascendant lord, so that also shows huge delay in my getting things, but the best part is, Saturn is also the planet of patience, so I have tons of patience, and I accept the slowness of my life with a smiling face, remembering the story of the race between the tortoise and the rabbit, and how the tortoise won in the end, even though it was slow all the time. 8)

I made an interesting observation about this Saturn transit, which I would like to share here. After Saturn transited to my ascendant, I shifted to my new room--actually, I have two rooms now, with a porch, and I am really enjoying it. It's not surprising that it happened when I think of the Saturn transit now: Saturn the 4th lord of home/comforts for my ascendant is exalted in my ascendant in transit now. From the Moon in my chart, Saturn is exalted in the 4th house of home/comforts, too. So it shows that this Saturn transit has been beneficial for me. I love Saturn. :)
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I gave on the previous page of this thread the chart of a person who has got a high-level promotion in this transit - when Saturn-Mars were conjunct in his 11th house.

He has Kala Sarpa Dosha and was running Rahu-Saturn-Rahu at the time of promotion. Overall, his Rahu Mahadasha so far seems to have been much better than his previous Mars Mahadasha, as seen from the details of his life.

See link below -

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 25#p141610

Here, I give the feedback about my friend who was waiting for promotion in career - Basab and I had discussed this case sometime back.

Well, she has got her normal promotion on 6th of Nov recently.

Following are her details -

Aquarius Lagna

Rahu in Lagna, aspected by Jupiter from 9th.

Mars-Sun in 10th Scorpio.

Saturn debilitated in 3rd.

Moon sign - Sagittarius.

Current transit on 6th of Nov -

Rahu-Mars in Scorpio her 10th house.

Saturn-Sun in Libra her 9h house, Saturn still combust and Sun debilitated.

Jupiter-Ketu in 4th, aspecing Mars-Rahu in 10th.

Mahadasha combination running -

Rahu-Rahu.

I had said her Rahu Mahadasha is benefic and she should get promotion as well as financial gains in this Mahadasha.

I had hoped for a higher growth for her in this Mahadasha, but her debilitated Lagna Lord Saturn in Lagna chart, combined with combust Saturn in current transit have diminished her gains in this Dasha and Gochar.

However, I had predicted that after 1st of Oct, when Mars leaves Libra, she should get her promotion anytime and she has got it on 6th of Nov - when Saturn was still combust and Rahu was still malefic in her 10th house.

I had said Mars in Scorpio will control Rahu's malefic powers in 10th and this seems to have been true in her case.

She happens to be Aquarius Lagna and has malefic Rahu-Ketu axis in 4-10 axis like all Aquarius Lagna people here in current transit.

While discussing malefic Rahu in Scorpio, we forgot that Jupiter's aspect on Rahu should make Rahu benefic in financial matters.
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hymns -

1 http://www.vignanam.org/

2 http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11446&start=75#p93038
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I love Saturn.
Arey Basu ji, Anything in excess can be heart-breaking!!! :mrgreen:
deeps

Thanks Deeps. I hope things will NOT get worse when Rahu transits over my Moon and Lagna next year.

However, I didn't understand your comment about "post 30 years". Did you mean age of 30 years.......because I'm already in my 40s.

Warm Regards

Rita
Ooopppps sorry rita ji. I thought you were sweet sixteen :mrgreen:

Well, Things do look scarier next year too but then it will depend on the current dashas and antardasha.
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Aseem,

I love Saturn... I am not obsessed about it. :mrgreen:
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I made an interesting observation about this Saturn transit, which I would like to share here. After Saturn transited to my ascendant, I shifted to my new room--actually, I have two rooms now, with a porch, and I am really enjoying it. It's not surprising that it happened when I think of the Saturn transit now: Saturn the 4th lord of home/comforts for my ascendant is exalted in my ascendant in transit now. From the Moon in my chart, Saturn is exalted in the 4th house of home/comforts, too. So it shows that this Saturn transit has been beneficial for me.
2 rooms :shock: :shock:

After marriage, both will sleep in different rooms! WOW!!!
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by akanksha2807 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 9:10 am

Aseem,

1) What if Saturn is in 11th but retrograde?

2) What if Sat-Jup conjunction is in 8th house, for Aquarius lagna?
Well malefics are welcome in 11th house. So retrograde will do good after some delays.

well not actually good combination if they are in 8th house which can mean setback after gains. But money house can be strong and health can be poor.
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Manny,

One is drawing room; the other is bedroom. They are Saturn's gift to me.
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OH thanks for clearing it up. I was unduly worried!!!
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[quote="Saindhavi"][color=#4000BF]
[b]Rita[/b],

I am not Libra Rashi, but Libra Ascendant.

You have not said where Saturn is in your chart.

Rahu malefic in 8th can give incurable illnesses like Cancer, neurological and psychological problems and Ulcers etc, but pain in bones is Saturn's domain.

Combustion of Saturn in your Rashi 1st house ma have caused it, as well as the delays.

This has to be matched with your Saturn and the general health condition in your chart.

I have experienced delays in getting results in professional field, not in travel - as I am not planning to travel.

In the beginning of Saturn's transit into Libra I had some minor health problems that got resolved later - my Saturn is partially combust and my health condition is good, so in my case this problem was only minor.

Take good care of yourself. It may be that you are exposing yourself to cold.

[/color][/quote]

Thanks for the response Saindhaviji. I have a strong and benefic Saturn in the 5th house in its own sign Aquarius. However all my life I've had delicate health, so I suppose the current issues are just something I have to be careful about. And I have always been very sensitive to cold.....living in a very cold climate doesn't help either, but you're right, the best we can do is to be careful, especially when we know our weak points.

Warm Regards

Rita
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[quote]Ooopppps sorry rita ji. I thought you were sweet sixteen :mrgreen:

Well, Things do look scarier next year too but then it will depend on the current dashas and antardasha.[/quote]

That's ok Deeps. Nice to be thought of as sweet sixteen. :D
Warm Regards

Rita
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Why aren't quotes working for me? Would appreciate if someone could let me know what I'm doing wrong.

Rita
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Rita
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Rita ji,

Untick all options like disable bbcode, smiles, etc.
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deeps wrote:Rita ji,

Untick all options like disable bbcode, smiles, etc.
Thanks for your help, it worked :D
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Rita
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You are welcome!!!! Rita ji :)
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Rita,

See the 6th house from Lagna and Moon sign and also the 6th lords.

Protecting yourself from cold will keep pains in bones in check.
Havan Manuals -

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=12791&p=124553#p124488

hymns -

1 http://www.vignanam.org/

2 http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3_0/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=11446&start=75#p93038
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Rita ji,

I remember reading somewhere that people with weak Sun in their birth charts are susceptible to cold. Is your Sun weak?
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Saindhavi wrote:Rita,

See the 6th house from Lagna and Moon sign and also the 6th lords.

Protecting yourself from cold will keep pains in bones in check.
Yes, could be due to malefic Jupiter, 6th lord from both Lagna and Moon sign. It is retrograde in 9th house in Gemini.
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