Celestial Drama in Libra

[basab14]

Aseem,

You are right when you say that most astrologers are not trained. Astrology is a very difficult subject. Reading a few books and a few articles on the net can’t make one an astrologer. But that’s how things are—people claim themselves to be astrologers, in spite of their little knowledge in the subject and make predictions confidently, which makes me amazed, rather than angry.

I have consulted many astrologers in my city, and the startling truth is none of them could predict anything about me correctly! I was not surprised, though—because knowing about a person’s life with the help of a birth chart is not an easy task. Human life is so complicated, and to expect a person to tell you all about it with the help of a few planets is just asking for too much.

I remember K.N. Rao said in one of his books, astrologers are born, not made. I feel one needs divine grace to have the ability to foretell a person’s future. Astrology is not just like any other subject, where you spend a lot of time learning the theories, and you become a master of it. It’s a mystical science, where intuition works better than logic and theories.

About K.N. Rao, he wanted to leave astrology because he was tired of giving predictions on the same questions that each and every person had to ask, which are, education, marriage, career, children and health. He said no one came to know about their spiritual growth, which was the very reason astrology was used in the earlier days.

He would have left the subject, but a saint told him that he should continue astrology as he had a mission to fulfill—that through him astrology would be popularized again and get a new direction. The prophecy of the saint came true, we all know, as Mr. Rao started the astrology school in Delhi, and then, encouraged his students to do research on the various planetary combinations, like have never been done before. He also shared many simple techniques to understand a birth chart.

K.N. Rao also says in his books that astrology is the stepping tone to spirituality, and he got more interested in spirituality later on than astrology, which is also why he wanted to give up astrology. I think there is a truth in it that astrology takes one to spirituality. When I was doing astrology, I liked it more for the spiritual essence in it than for astrology as a subject itself. I didn’t even realize it, though Anupamji—anupam1968 in this forum—did. He told me very confidently that one day I will take interest in spirituality—that was his prediction for me. And he was right.

I stopped learning astrology as I thought to myself if everything happens as per God’s will, why bother my head about what the planets are saying. I grew a kind of ‘I-don’t-care’ attitude towards life, which was mainly due to the influence of the spiritual books I read.

I even gave up reading birth charts. But then, people who knew I did astrology would come and ask me questions, and though in the beginning I refused to answer their queries, I later on thought to myself that if I have learned a little of the subject, and if it can help some people, why shouldn’t I do that? So now I do answer the queries of my friends, though I have cut down on that, too, a lot.

My loosing interest in astrology, my growing interest in spirituality—it all happened when my Saturn sub-period started, i.e. in May 2009. It was Saturn-return for me, too, at that time.

[anuradha]

Re: Celestial Drama in Libra
by Yellow » 081112

Aseem,

You are right when you say that most astrologers are not trained. Astrology is a very difficult subject. Reading a few books and a few articles on the net can’t make one an astrologer. But that’s how things are—people claim themselves to be astrologers, in spite of their little knowledge in the subject and make predictions confidently, which makes me amazed, rather than get angry.

I agree. regards

[basab14]

Thanks, Anuradha.

[howzat]

by deeps » 08 Nov 2012 09:01
What we see nowadays is people learning astrology under so-called Gurus within a month and start giving out predictions! They are only making fools of themselves and don't know that one day planets will give them huge shock to them. I am not an astrologer but astrology is my favourite past time hobby. I do astrology as it gives high when I read the accurately the charts of unknown people.

by Yellow » 08 Nov 2012 14:15
Aseem,
You are right when you say that most astrologers are not trained. Astrology is a very difficult subject. Reading a few books and a few articles on the net can’t make one an astrologer. But that’s how things are—people claim themselves to be astrologers, in spite of their little knowledge in the subject and make predictions confidently, which makes me amazed, rather than angry.

you peoples are talking like all others useless - only you two best. all are fools you two are wisest. wah wah wah . both you peoples giving astrological advice on astrology forum everyday. where you learned astrology? from book no? from Guru no? from net no? why then you are only talking like stupids. you peoples no - you are making joke of other members on forum. this is not good. please dont do like this.

respected K.N.Rao ji Saheb - in one book no - he gave one fine example. - i will quote -

in a street of Paris a barber had put up a board declaring himself to be the best barber in the world. next to him was another barber who was quick to react. he put up a board declaring himself to be the finest barber on the street.

like that - one of you is saying i am best in world - another is saying i am best in forum. you two peoples are talking about rest on the forum in bad way. you peoples are also in same boat. dont talk like that about respected others members on forum. please. this is not good. all others are not knowing astrology ah? only you know ah? tell?

[basab14]

Howzat,

You took my post wrongly. I definitely am one of those, who don't know astrology--not sure whether Aseem feels the same--and that is one of the reasons I stopped giving readings to people also once, telling them that I don't know anything, but people are so curious to know about their charts, that they don't care how much a person knows as long as he can say something seeing their charts.

I never have boasted anywhere about my astrology skills, and I keep a low profile in comparison to other astrologers here, if you have noticed. There was a time a few years back when I used to tell each and every person I gave a reading to not take my predictions seriously as I could be wrong, and I still do that a lot of times, though not always.

I try to make people who takes predictions, not get affected by anything negative said, and I will always try that because I know that one can never be sure when it comes to the future. So please don't take it wrongly that I am trying to prove that I am a good astrologer. I know very little in the subject, and I have openly said it here many, many times.

Please go to the paid predictions section, where someone called Ranbir suggested mine and Aseem's name for being chosen in the panel of astrologers here, who can charge money for predictions, and see the reply we both have given: we both have very strongly said that we will never take money for predictions given by us. If we though ourselves to be very good astrologers, would we have said something like that?

[howzat]

by deeps » 08 Nov 2012 09:01
What we see nowadays is people learning astrology under so-called Gurus within a month and start giving out predictions!

Respected K N Rao ji Saheb said in one book -

I often sit down and ask myself questions like the following -
Parashara has given 55 dashas and jaimini 44 according to P.S.Shasty who i rate as best living astrologer of our decades. he was trained in vedas from childhood and can speak extempore in sanskrit for 4 hours without notes. he is double pHd and was head of department english in nagpur university. yet he has modesty to say in his book of astrology - - astrology has to be learnt from a right guru as he found many sutras to be too terse.

like that respected K N Rao Ji has said. Dont talk like this about Gurus. you know ah - which guru is good and which guru is -so called guru? you are bigger than all gurus ah? you know all Guru - and so called gurus in the world ah? are you judge? who are you to judge who learned what under whom? tell?

[howzat]

by Yellow » 08 Nov 2012 17:46
Howzat,

Please go to the paid predictions section, where someone called Ranbir suggested mine and Aseem's name for being chosen in the panel of astrologers here, who can charge money for predictions, and see the reply we both have given: we both have very strongly said that we will never take money for predictions given by us. If we though ourselves to be very good astrologers, would we have said something like that?
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ah very good very good. You are nice peoples i think no? very good. keep it up.

[basab14]

Howzat,

As you are quoting K.N. Rao's opinion on everything, why don't you quote what he said about the 'internet astrologers'? I wrote whatever I wrote keeping what he said in mind, but you can quote his very lines and authenticate my statement.

The only point I want to make is--as I feel you have not got it--that those who have limited knowledge in the subject should be humble about their astrology skills, than behave like they know-it-all as it ends up in harming astrology only.

Everywhere I ask people about astrology, they say, "Don't talk about it! It's rubbish!" And when I ask them why they think so, they say, "Nothing that was predicted to them came out correct!" So if only the people, who are doing astrology as a hobby, would keep their egos aside, and not show that much confidence in their predictions, like they normally do, and make the querists aware that they may not be correct as they don't know the subject properly, astrology will not get disgraced as it's happening these days a lot. That's all I have to say.

[howzat]

by Yellow » 08 Nov 2012 18:35
Howzat,

As you are quoting K.N. Rao's opinion on everything, why don't you quote what he said about the 'internet astrologers'? I wrote whatever I wrote keeping what he said in mind, but you can quote his very lines and authenticate my statement.

what to quote? you are also internet astrologer no? want to put chuna on your own face ah?

[basab14]

It's not for me, but for others that I want you to quote his lines. I am an internet astrologer, and I know the position I hold in the astrology world. It's for those, who don't know their position that I am asking you to quote Mr. Rao's lines. As it will get them disillusioned, which is very much needed, as otherwise astrology will lose popularity more and more. That's all I have to say. Won't write anymore on this.

[howzat]

what yellow - you are also internet community astrologer. I am also - Respected K.N.Rao Saheb is also using Internet now. why you blaming medium. blame user if misusing no.

[Saindhavi]

Howzat and Basab,

Please don't extend this argument. We don't want any conflicts here.

Howzat,

Please remember - ignoring such comments is the best strategy. Arguing about such matters doesn't lead to any gains for anyone.

Let's get back to the current transit issue -

As I said earlier, Mars is in Sandhi and will move to Sagittarius tomorrow.

I feel Mars in 11th house of financial gains aspecting 2nd house of wealth, with Saturn emerging out of combustion on 12th will be especially good for Aquarius Lagna people for their job situation.

For Leo Lagnas, it should be especially good for romantic matters.

For Virgo Lagnas, relationships and marriage should improve.

Howzat and Basab and others - do you have any comments to make?

I know Explorings has already talked about Saturn's aspect on Mars in Sagittarius, but I feel Mars will be able to give some good effects for some Lagnas at least.

[Saindhavi]

Aseem,

Please don't extend this. Let it go. It doesn't matter. It's not the end of the world.

Please read the current transit situation above and give your opinion.

[howzat]

by deeps » 08 Nov 2012 19:04
HOWZAT, everyone knows you hidden agenda to attack us again in new avtaar. Dirty fellow!!!

dear deeps - why you are saying like this and all? answer to point no. you sent PM to me saying welcome back - you also wrote in public forum to me - welcome back. what this welcome back? welcome i understand. welcome back means what? I dont know. I am confuse. what agenda? what hidden? I cannot understand. This is public open forum no? i said anything personal to you ah? tell? anything i told? what you are thinking hidden agenda and all? avtaar means what? new avataar means what? i put PM off because of you only. you send like that PM means what I should do? I dont know. I am afraid. what you are trying to say? say in open no.

[Saindhavi]

Howzat, Aseem and Basab,

Please take this argument outside this thread. This is not the place for it.

Thanks and best regards

[howzat]

by Saindhavi » 08 Nov 2012 19:03
Howzat,
Please remember - ignoring such comments is the best strategy. Arguing about such matters doesn't lead to any gains for anyone.

correct Saindhavi ji. I will ignore. these peoples are not answering to point. only sending pm. that is why i put pm off, i will ignore these peoples.

[howzat]

by Saindhavi » 08 Nov 2012 19:12
Howzat, Aseem and Basab,
Please take this argument outside this thread. This is not the place for it.

I am sorry saindhavi ji. very sorry. kindly please forgive.

[howzat]

Saindhavi madam -

when Kuja will move to Sagittarius first 1.5 Deg is sandhi point no? But Kuja is gaining strength. why you know? he is geting own Navamsha in Aries. No problem for Kuja. only now till he goes to Sagittarius problem. you see.

[basab14]

Saindhavi ji,

I don't think Mar's moving to 11th house will bring improvement in job situation for Aquarius ascendant natives. As long as Rahu is there in Scorpio, they will keep facing troubles. Soon Sun (significator of career) will transit to Scorpio and get eclipsed by Rahu, so problems in work front will increase than decrease for them. Mars aspect on 2nd house and 5th house will result in the natives of this ascendant speaking harshly and losing their tempers, often. Conflicts in family may also arise during this period. Gains through hard work is indicated, too.

For Leo ascendant natives, Mars in Saggittarius will bring good progress in career, but they will have conflicts with spouse. Virgo ascendant natives will work extremely hard during the coming transit of Mars and show a lot of courage in their work. Libra ascendant natives may find their dream girl on the net when Mars enters their third house (internet) in transit.

[Saindhavi]

Howzat,
Sandhi is till 1 degree.

I too feel Mars should giv at least some good results for those n whose charts Sagittarius falls in good houses. But what do you think of exalted Saturn aspect on Mars?

Basab,

I think except 12th-14h i.e. around eclipse date, Sun will control Rahu with Jupiter's help.

I don't it should be good for Libra - Sagittarius is in 3rd, Pisces in 6th. Aquarius will certainly be better off than Libra.

[miav]

Saindhvi ji.. I did pray to every god possible.. Its very confusing because this is not the first time i ve taken such a stupid unnecessary step in life. There have been some incidents in the past too.. But all being like me going completely careless about how it will affect my life and doing them. Then i see what a mess i ve created.
Anyways.. 18 hours from now i ll know what i m going to end up with.. Oh man, it'll completely ruin everything.. If it does end up bad.. How am i going to face my family and relatives and society and myself.

[basab14]

Saindhavi ji,

I don't think Sun-Rahu in 10th house will be good for career for Aquarius ascendant natives. You think differently about it. But we can always agree to disagree.

About Libra ascendant, Mars in 3rd house in friendly house shows putting efforts, showing courage, and it's aspect on 6th house shows crushing the enemies. As 2nd lord in the 3rd house, it will give gains through hard work. There can be fights with neighbours, colleagues and on the internet as 3rd house signifies all that. Injury to hand, or accident while travelling is also possible. Conflicts with father, or health issues for father or conflicts in work place is possible.

[howzat]

ok 1 degree means one degree. no problem. see one gang is telling - only first 1 Nazika = 24 minutes is sandhi. so many many sandhis are there.

now see - Shani exalted aspecting Kuja - what will happen. exaltation aspect means Kuja will get more fire. shani will unglify kuja. that is all. then lagna to lagna effect is feeling.

one point i will tell ok. Kuja no - not weak. why i will tell - see - kuja friend sign - fire rasi - own navamsha. like this we must see gandant. very difficult - all gandant = not equal

[Saindhavi]

Basab,

So, overall it's not good for Libra.

We'll get feedback from Aquarius Lagnas about Mars in Sagittarius soon. So, we'll see.

Howzat,

OMG - I didn't notice Gandant.

Well, it's only till tomorrow, so no problem.

[anuradha]

I think except 12th-14h i.e. around eclipse date, Sun will control Rahu with Jupiter's help.

Saindhviji, Rahu is the most powerful planet in Kalyuga[ Hora Saar], so Sun cannot control Rahu. No transit can be good or bad, it all depends on the Dasha- Anter Dasha and Pratanter Dasha. Transit of the planets behaves accordingly. regards