A Look at functional Lordship According to M K Agrawal

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Learned Members

M K Agrawal wrote the book on Savatobhadra Chakra which was highly recommended by K N Rao.

Before he touched on the savatobhadra Chkara proper, he had a section on the assessment on the functional lordship of the planets in the chart. His list is the list that most TRADITIONAL astrologers use if you follow the classics closely - notice he does not think much of the 11th lord and he consider natural benefics like Jupiter and Venus ruling 4th, 7th and 10th houses as exceedingly maleiic (ie. functional maleficity). The house strength is strictly based on cycling the houses in a clockwise direction ie. 12th is strong than 11th, 11th is stronger than 10th etc. (this is the traditional way). He also considers retrogade natural benefics as good and retrogade natural malefics as bad regardless where these planets are placed - and thus different from the concept from Visti Larsen.

Please note in the following list from M K Agrawal, any reference to malefic or benefic, can mean natural benefic/nakefuc or functional benefic/malefic. You have to read the sentence with the context in mind for eg. if the setence says "lordship of benefic ruling 4th becomes malefic" most likely it is talking about "a natural benefic ruling 4th becomes a functional malefic".

Here is the list.

Mise matters about horoscope :
Any planet in 5th or 9th house gives benefic results.
Lords of 3,6, and 11th houses are always malefic &
they do not give benefic results if lords are malefic.
Benefic lords of 4, 7, and iOth houses are 100%
malefic even Jupiter & Venus, unless they occupy
their own or exaltation sign.
Malefic lords of 4, 7, 10th are 100% benefic.
Lords of 5th & 9th houses are 100% benefic.
Lords of 2nd & 12th houses are neutral, provided
they do not own any other house.
Lords of 8th house is most malefic.
Lord of 8th house when also lord of Asc gives 50%
benefic results.
Lords of 4, 7 & 10th houses (Iup & Yen), if occupy
2nd or 7th house are 100% malefic& become rnaraka
Lord of 4, 7 & 10th houses, if Mercury, occupies
2nd or 7th house is 50% malefic & 50% rnaraka.
Lord of 4,7, & 10th house if Moon, occupies 2nd or
7th house is 25% malefic & 25%maraka.
Lord of 8th house If Sun or Moon, are 25%malefic.
Malefic Lords of 4, 7 & 10th houses, when also lord
of 3, 6, 8, 11 house are 50% malefic.
Rahu or Ketu, when occupies 1, 4, 7, 10, 5 or 9
house give benefic results, provided their lords are
benefic by lordship & when they are conjoined with
a benefic strong planet.
Moon is less malefic than Mercury.
Mercury is less malefic than Jupiter & Venus.
9th house is stronger than 5th house.
10th house is stronger than 7th house.
7th house is stronger than 4th house.
6th house is stronger than 3rd house.
11th house is stronger than 6th house.
Malefic planet when Retrograde becomes double
malefic.
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Benefic planet when Retrograde becomes double
benefic.
Lords of 1, 4, 7, 10, 5 and 9th hduses, if related to
each other, specially by conjunction or exchange of
Kendra Lord with Trikona lord give Raj yogas.
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If lords of 4,7,10,5 and 9th have malefic tendencies
they give malefic results even they are yogi planets
(This happens when lords of 4,17, 10 houses are
benefic planets).
Astrology is an applied science. Our sages used to
apply it extensively for prediction of all matters about
the world, individuals, war & peace, market
fluctuations, life & death of native, happy events &
unhappy events, victory & defeat.
Malefic lords of 6,8, and 12th houses are less malefic
than benefic lords of 4, 7, 10 houses. '
ASC Lord is 100% benefic.
Malefic lord of 4, 7 & 10th houses if also lords of 5
or 9th house are Yogi Planets.

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Also notice the Ascendant Lord is always considered 100% functional benefic for Agrawal list above.

If you use my dicta with the Progressed Ascendant Chart (taking the 5th house as the Ascendant), the original Ascendant Lord becomes the 9th lord and hence it is always very good.

The New Ascendant Lord (the original 5th house lord) I consider netural in my Progressed Ascendant Chart.

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[numbskull]

hello khoo sir

Good planets for each Ascendant :

This requires a complete re-thinking.

Basically only the 5th, 9th and 11th lords are good and uplifting. 9th and 11th lords are prosperous lords and the 5th lord enables the native to tide through difficulties and give riches as well under certain conditions.

Cancer and Leo always support eacher other ie. Sun and Moon. So if Moon rules the 5th, 9th or 11th or the Sun rules the 5th, 9th or 11th, the other LIght also turns good. So Sun rules Earth Houses of the 2nd, 6th and 10th are good. Moon ruling Water Houses of the 12th, 4th and 8th are invariably good.

So for example for an Aires Ascendant Moon rules 4th. Whatever Moon gains, Sun also gains and Sun rules the 5th, so Moon is good. Similarly for a Pisces Ascendant, Sun rules the 6th. Whatever Sun gains, goes to the Moon which rules the 5th, so that is invariably good.

The above principle is from Jataka Rajeeyam from Saptarishis Astrology.
Mars ruling 5th,9th or 11th, Ketu turns good regardless of what houses Ketu rules. Note that Ketu rules Scorpio and Sagittarius. Similarly Jupiter ruling 5th, 9th or 11th, Ketu invariably turns good. If Ketu itself rules 5th, 9th or 11th, BOTH Mars and Jupiter turns good.

Saturn ruling 5th, 9th or 11th, Rahu turns good regardless of what houses Rahu rules. Note that Rahu rules Aquarius and Gemini. Similarly Mercury ruling 5th, 9th or 11th, Rahu invariably turns good. If Rahu itself rules 5th, 9th or 11th, BOTH Saturn and Mercury turns good.

The 1st lord which is the lagnesh suffers wear and tear as the years go by so I would not classify as good. It is variable in its influence depending on what kind of lords it associates with.

If you use my dicta with the Progressed Ascendant Chart (taking the 5th house as the Ascendant), the original Ascendant Lord becomes the 9th lord and hence it is always very good.

sir in light of these above quoted two posts of urs and ur post of agarwal's book it becomes more confusing:

1) 11th lord to be considered malefic or benefic ?( atleast for gemeni its malefic as also ruling 6th and enemy to mercury)
2) asc lord is strong benefic or not ?

what r ur final views about these two questions

thank you

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Numbskull :

The answers :

(1) 11th lord is considered benefic to my dicta because I am assessing the lords based on current times and in this current age of ours, gains are very importan in our survival, as we live in an exchange economy (gains can be goods or money). In olden times, where each village is a small hamlet and they survive mainly based on a subsistence economy, so the Dharma or Spiritual Houses assume more importance. I think I have explained this in a previous post.

Agrawal's list is based strictly on traditional classics criterion on evaluating the goodness of any house. So his dictum of the 11th lord being maleifc is correct and so is my dictum of the 11th lord being good, depending on what criterion you use.

(2) Ascendant Lord according to Agrawal is a strong beneci, 100% benefic. Again based on olden times, 1st lord is for oneself and since it is also spiritual in nature and evolving as when we have re-births, the Ascendant Lord is considered asupicious by the ancients. Again Agrawal's list is based on traditional classics.

In my case I consider Ascendant Lord as neutral because for our current times, we tend to like to live a life of ease and luxury. If we can have Moksha (through the overall indications of the chart, not just 1st lord, in case you ask the next question on this) all the better, but most of us do not want obstacles along the way if possible. So unless 1st lord has more benign influences on it, otherwise it would not be a rosy picture for us.

Now the thing is that the chart progressing to the 5th house as the Ascendant is actually verified by one of Sanjay Rath's people - a East European guru who also happened to have sat in with an Indian Guru for an extended period of time. He was given this secret by the guru which I happened to find out independently on my own.

The fact that Agrawal saying that the 1st house lord is very good and it progresses to the 9th house lord using the concept of the Progressed Ascendant, means in that respect, I do agree with Aragawal that the 1st house lord of the ORIGINAL UNPROGRESSED CHART is 100% benefic. But this is looking on another separate dimension and is independent of what I said earlier about what I said about the 1st house lord being neutral. Also when I said about the 1st house lord being neutral, I am referring to the Progressed Ascendant which is the original 5th house lord.

Whether to place more emphasis on the original chart or the progressed ascendant chart, I have also explained earlier that the latter should be given more weightage. The progressed ascendant chart kicks in as soon as we are born if you look at my earlier post.

So Agrawal's dictum of the Ascedant Lord 100% benefic is correct. My dictum of the Progressed Ascendant Lord being neutral is also correct.

You must be quite clear what is what, and not conflate issues, especially if the issues are based on different criteria of judgement as in (1), or based on different basis of comparison like which chart we are talking about as in (2).

Hope the above helps.

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Agrawal's list would be good for those astrologers who like to follow closely the classics.

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[numbskull]

khoo sir

beautifully explained by u

thank you

take care