MAHAPURUSHA YOGA

[abhikumar04]

Respected Gurujis,

I would like to revive discussions on this topic: As we know Mahapurusha Yogas are powerful and rare.

Request our learned astrologers to throw some light on each of the four Panchmahapurush Yogas:
1. Hamsa Yoga
2. Malvya Yoga
3. Ruchaka Yoga
4. Bhadra Yoga
5. Sasa Yoga

How to identify such Yogas in a chart, when is the full impact of such Yogas felt, which degrees of planets, nakshatras, aspects, planets and what results do they give in different houses and signs which they are situated in...

Please guide us on these Yoga formations Gurujis...

[elipsis]

Mahapurusha yogas are not rare in theory- but they do gurantee some level of success to whoever has them, the strength of these yogas have to be carefully guaged at several levels- now each astrologer has his own way of looking at these yogas taking current generation and lifestyle into account. The basic rule is like this:

1. At least one of these planets -Jupiter, Mercury, Mars, Venus or Saturn must occupy it's own sign or exaltation
2. It must be in a quadrant (1,4,7,10)

Now I don't fully agree with this rule because planets tend to lose some of their power in the quadrants, in other words these don't form MP yoga for the current age, you have to look at it a bit more deeply.

[cri8bat]

I know a guy who has mahapurusha yoga, he has in the 6th house and he got success after age 36. Now he is 42 and director of a company with a salary of 2.5 crores per annum in ruppies and in pounds he earn £240000 per annum.


I have a question will someone with gaj kesari yoga in the 9th house would he earn that much money???

[ambisan]

I have 2 maha purusha yogas in my chart my lie is too normal in fact now a days its becoming worse.
I got sasha and malavya yoga in libra lagna , 01 - dec -1983 04:02 chennai. I personally think maha purusa yogas dont have much significance in current age

[elipsis]

You have only one MP yoga but your ascendant lord is not very strong.

[abhikumar04]

Shouldn't the placement of the Nakshatra, where the Yoga giving planet is situated also be taken into account? If the Lord of the Nakshatra where the planet is residing is weak or afflicted in the chart, then such a Yoga will not fructify I believe!

[ambisan]

Extremely sorry all, for software calculations my bdate is 02-12-1983,
elipsis my heartfelt apologies for wasting your time really sorry.

[elipsis]

Shouldn't the placement of the Nakshatra, where the Yoga giving planet is situated also be taken into account? If the Lord of the Nakshatra where the planet is residing is weak or afflicted in the chart, then such a Yoga will not fructify I believe!

Of course, nakshatra lords have to be taken into account. But for any MP or Raja yoga to work properly- there should be a connection between quadrant lords (1,4,7,10) and the trine lords (1,5,9), otherwise the yogas won't be as effective. Dharma Trikona (1,5,9) are the most powerful houses in the birth chart. The quadrant houses are the houses of Vishnu and the trine houses are the houses of Lakshmi (wealth and prosperity)- The trine houses are the direct result of the past karma so they must be connected with the present karma in some way or the other for them to work properly. So quadrant lords alone will never bring great wealth because there is no connection with the trine lords, the native must be entirely dependant on his own effort, but when a quadrant is connected with the trine the native will be receiving the element of luck in whatever he does. For example: If 9th conjuncts 10th the native will be getting the fruits of his past karma in his work environment- more promotions, respect and wealth.

Then comes the divisional charts- planets in the vargottama or trine positions strengthen the effectiveness of the yoga, it's like a vote of confidence. And then we have to take Nakshatra and pada lords- if they are weak or afflicted then yogas are guaranteed to fail like you say. You must also check the relationship between Nakshatra lord and the pada lords because each pada of any nakshatra is ruled by a planet. For example: The lord of the Revati is Mercury, but the pada 1 & 4 is ruled by Jupiter and 2 & 3 by Saturn. Some astrologers assign different pada lords but this is what I know.

And finally we take into account the time when a yoga fructifies- MP yogas slowly gain strength overtime if all the necessary conditions are met. But when is the time that you'll actually notice it? For that check your Vimshottari Dasa and Drig Dasa, the latter is more important because it starts with the 9th house and whenever Drig Dasa reaches your trines or trine lords you'll see big changes in your life. Sometimes a yoga gains strength through certain karmas, the trine lords get overpowered through partnerships,marriage or charities but this is a very subjective issue left to native's priorities.

[abhikumar04]

So well put @ Elipses, Precisely why they say, You never get anything more than your destiny and anything before the right time... I guess patience is the key! Could you please explain each of the Planets and the nakshatras in which they perform the best along with Padas... i.e. when Mars, Mer, Ven, Sat, Jup are causing these yogas along with being associated with trinal lords, then which Nakshatras would give the maximum results of the Yogas... also what if a Yogakarka is causing the Mahapurusha Yoga for any ascendant ... i.e. by virtue of being Yogakarka, it naturally owns a Quadrant and a Trine, does it still need to associate with any benefic or it can cause Yoga all by itself? Also please tell me, which are the best ascendants in sequence to get the benefit of Yogas?

[elipsis]

All powerful yogas need a link between quadrant and trine lords. Either through conjunction, aspects or through stars.

Barring a few nakshatras- most behave as neutrals. When a planet eclipses a star it is supposed to imbue the qualities of the star. Moon is most susceptible to this eclipsing effect therefore ancient thinkers made Moon sign as your birth star, other planets like Mars and Mercury easily imbue the qualities of the nakshatra. Jupiter, Saturn and Venus have their own independent hierarchy therefore this eclipsing has very little effect on them. Sun on the other hand diminishes the quality of the eclipsing star thereby reducing the strength of the planets surrounding it. I know all this sounds really complicated but this is a very vast subject, I'm doing my best to shorten it. I will skip Rahu, Ketu and Gulika for this topic.

Let me give you some info about the nakshatra padas.

When lord of the nakshatra is Moon:

1st pada: Mars
2nd: Venus
3rd: Mercury
4th: Moon

So when the moon eclipses the 4th pada of its own star, it is considered bad. And the 1st pada is considered most auspicious.

Other nakshatra and pada lords:
Mars:
1: Sun
2: Mercury
3: Venus
4: Mars

Mars eclipsing 4th of its own pada is bad.

Mercury:
1: Jupiter
2: Saturn
3: Saturn
4: Jupiter

Neither Moon nor Saturn has any effect in the 2nd and 3rd pada.
Ketu:
1: Mars
2: Venus
3: Mercury
4: Moon

Venus:
1: Sun
2: Mercury
3: Venus
4: Mars

Jupiter:
1: Mars
2: Venus
3: Mercury
4: Moon

Saturn:
1: Sun
2: Mercury
3: Venus
4: Mars

Sun:
1: Jupiter
2: Saturn
3: Saturn
4: Jupiter

Rahu
1: Jupiter
2: Saturn
3: Saturn
4: Jupiter

Nakshatras lorded by Rahu and Ketu behave differently, it would take up lots of typing to explain

Let me give you an example on how these yogas tend to work. Saturn gets exalted in Libra, the deep exaltation point is at 20° in Vishaka, 1st pada. As you can see a connection is established between Saturn, Jupiter and Mars. Based on the positions of these planets one can determine the strength of the Sasa yoga. But you must remember that nakshatra itself don't affect Saturn and Jupiter as explained earlier. Suppose Venus is in Rohini, 3rd pada- the placement of Moon, Venus and Mercury have to be taken into account. All these rules apply to navamsa and divisional charts as well.

[tripura]

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[elipsis]

There will be minor issues in this Saturn AD- regarding family health and peace.

[tripura]

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[elipsis]

Finances will improve next year, no sign of him returning to India anytime soon.

[ambisan]

Hi,
Can you see why these yogas are not working in my case, 02- dec -1983 04:02 am chennai.
Thanks

[elipsis]

In your chart venus is in Chitra. 3rd pada. Venus has eclipsed itself, reducing it's own power. Lord of Chitra is in 12th. This reduces the strength of the yoga- however you'll notice slight improvement post 33 years of age.

[jcb]

Hello Elipsis,


I have Sasa Yoga in my Chart. ( 17-12-1963, 8:36 PM, Tenali, AP). What are the traits of Sasa yoga, in general?. Is Saturn is beneficial in 7th house with sasa Yoga?
Regards,
JCB

[idontknow]

Of course, nakshatra lords have to be taken into account. But for any MP or Raja yoga to work properly- there should be a connection between quadrant lords (1,4,7,10) and the trine lords (1,5,9), otherwise the yogas won't be as effective. Dharma Trikona (1,5,9) are the most powerful houses in the birth chart. The quadrant houses are the houses of Vishnu and the trine houses are the houses of Lakshmi (wealth and prosperity)- The trine houses are the direct result of the past karma so they must be connected with the present karma in some way or the other for them to work properly. So quadrant lords alone will never bring great wealth because there is no connection with the trine lords, the native must be entirely dependant on his own effort, but when a quadrant is connected with the trine the native will be receiving the element of luck in whatever he does. For example: If 9th conjuncts 10th the native will be getting the fruits of his past karma in his work environment- more promotions, respect and wealth.

Then comes the divisional charts- planets in the vargottama or trine positions strengthen the effectiveness of the yoga, it's like a vote of confidence. And then we have to take Nakshatra and pada lords- if they are weak or afflicted then yogas are guaranteed to fail like you say. You must also check the relationship between Nakshatra lord and the pada lords because each pada of any nakshatra is ruled by a planet. For example: The lord of the Revati is Mercury, but the pada 1 & 4 is ruled by Jupiter and 2 & 3 by Saturn. Some astrologers assign different pada lords but this is what I know.

And finally we take into account the time when a yoga fructifies- MP yogas slowly gain strength overtime if all the necessary conditions are met. But when is the time that you'll actually notice it? For that check your Vimshottari Dasa and Drig Dasa, the latter is more important because it starts with the 9th house and whenever Drig Dasa reaches your trines or trine lords you'll see big changes in your life. Sometimes a yoga gains strength through certain karmas, the trine lords get overpowered through partnerships,marriage or charities but this is a very subjective issue left to native's priorities.

So ellipsis ji according to u I have a Malvya yoga so is it strong or a weak yoga?

Can you tell me what drig dasa am I running?

My venus is in purvabhadra NK such that (saturn) and my moon and saturn in purvashada NK (venus) so can this be called as exchange of nakshatra as such strengthen both of them...is there any such thing..

[elipsis]

@jcb You do have sasa yoga, but saturn is neutral in your chart. However, you'll be successful in overcoming your enemies and win over land and property disputes. Makes you financially stable and devoted to family members, once you cross 50 you'll begin to notice greater benefits of this yoga

[elipsis]

So ellipsis ji according to u I have a Malvya yoga so is it strong or a weak yoga?

Medium, extremely strong yogas are really rare.

Can you tell me what drig dasa am I running?

Libra

Starting 2014, you'll be running drig dasa of Gemini and Virgo until 2026.


My venus is in purvabhadra NK such that (saturn) and my moon and saturn in purvashada NK (venus) so can this be called as exchange of nakshatra as such strengthen both of them...is there any such thing..

Your ascendant lord is really weak, even though there is NBRY. Strengthen your planets by doing appropriate remedies, sometimes planets will be sleeping -waking them up does good

And your venus is in Uttarabhadrapada

[tripura]

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[varshney]

hello elipsis,
as u have previously told me that i have couple of good yogas in my birth-chart but right now they don't seem to be working that much. is it because of shani mahadasha going on or is it due to retrograde mars in lagna kundli.
i'am also eager to know what is the effect of this in my kundli as i have debilitated mars in D-9 and D-10 chart but it has high amsa bala in shodasha vargas so how would overall effect of mars be in my entire life??
date of birth:21st october 1990
birth time:12:45 am
place:agra,india
regards

[elipsis]

Hi! Elipsisji,
do u see my cousin buying property in the near future? 16th august 1955, Nadiad Gujarat,@ 23:30
tripura.

Yes, there are chances.

hello elipsis,
as u have previously told me that i have couple of good yogas in my birth-chart but right now they don't seem to be working that much. is it because of shani mahadasha going on or is it due to retrograde mars in lagna kundli.
i'am also eager to know what is the effect of this in my kundli as i have debilitated mars in D-9 and D-10 chart but it has high amsa bala in shodasha vargas so how would overall effect of mars be in my entire life??
date of birth:21st october 1990
birth time:12:45 am
place:agra,india
regards

Varshney, I cannot go into every aspect of your horoscope in detail - it would take hours to analyze it- go through my previous posts to determine the strength of each yoga you have bought. Your chart is fairly good because your ascendant is really strong and your nakshatra lord is exalted. You'll begin to see positive changes starting 2014. As for the mars- its really weak and will probably affect your luck as it shows you have to put more effort compared to others, when you decide to marry make sure your partner has strong trines- that will neutralise some of the negative effects.

[tripura]

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[prateak.desai]

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