Anyone happily married with Rahu-Ketu on 1/7 axis in D1 & D9

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Diksha:

Kalsarpa yoga exists only if all 9 planets are inside Rahu-Kethu or Kethu-Rahu axis only. Only in such a case, Rahu and Kethu will give malefic results to the native. This can or maybe for whole life for some from my experience.

Dikshaji, I have no idea about why you are doing puja and such things? See, when such horoscopes shows extensive karmic baggage from one or more lives in the past, how by doing a puja, one will be out of it?.

Hence, whatever is the karma has to be burned out by tolerating everything or undergoing everything.

Understand this aspect and point of Karma. I have no idea as to who invented such pujas and remedies.

No matter whatever remedy is done, no matter whatever 1 crore time puja is done, whatever karma has to be there has to be burned out, otherwise it will keep coming back to the native even if you escape in the present birth.

I pity astrologers and persons who keep saying some remedies or the other. I see nobody who says "please undergo everything honestly and sincerely"

People who are trying to escape from everything is not at all understanding the fact that "whatever you have sowed or whatever you have sowed through others whether it is done by known or unknown factors or causes, has to be undergone sincerely and honestly." So, it has to be undergone now itself, so that it does not keep coming back in future births with further more interests realized on principle amount. So, dont try to run away from anything, it is not possible.

This has been told by his holiness Sri Sri Bharathi Thirtha Mahaswamigal i.e. Lord Shiva who himself is Adi Shankaracharya in a lecture recently in chennai that "nobody can escape from karma, whatever it is, has to be burned out" "Can you question god? God has nothing to give or take, he just gives results according to your karma only"

"Even if you kill a mosquito by saying that it has bitten you, so you killed it" Still it is a karma, his holiness said. You cannot say that "I killed that mosquito because it has bitten you"

Only at the point of realization or one becoming a wisdom person "all karmas get burned into ashes like Ahutis poured into a yajna" His holiness said. "After that, what punya or what papa one has?" said his holiness.

"Even if one has extreme punya, she/he has to undergo that punya part as well unless one become a jnani"

"So by standing in dharma, do your duties honestly and sincerely thinking always that you are a mere instrument in his hands and also do your duties as Nishkama submitting everything at his feet saying Sarvam Parameshwara Arpanam Asthu" as this will only help one getting relieved from this birth/death cycle, his holiness said in an anugraha prabashanam in chennai.

Everybody in this world always wants happiness and nobody is wishing even a moment of sadness, but as long as one is in this world, nobody can find that happiness which is eternal because this world is a mere illusion which is made of Maya. This is not real and hence Adi Shankara termed it as "Mithya or in other words a state of dream" You cannot say it is unreal as well because "you are seeing it with your eyes outside, isnt it"

It is merely because this world is an illusion, one is not able to get lasting or unending happiness. Such a happiness is only and only available at his holy feet. When I say holy feet, I am certainly not referring to a 10-handed God... :D, I mean happiness and peace of wisdom as that is the holy feet.

As long as one is there in this world, most of the times everything works on karma whether it is good or bad here unless one is a wisdom person.

One should remain and work in this world by always keep a firm foot inwardly as to that "this is an illusionary world, nothing is of mine, I am not even a doer, I will always stand firm on dharma no matter whatever may come"

But, as soon as a moment of sadness sets in, people keep asking for remedies to avoid it or to get out of it.

So, that's the reason why I have not recommended to anybody any kind of remedies because "it is a mere act of fooling others" to repent later. It is equal to telling a lie. Such remedies maybe like a "taste of rain in the scorching summer for one" but that all is temporary which neither both understands as from almighty's point of view "nobody can escape the law of karma"
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The law of karma works to each and every being in a different way or different paths and in such a way that "to some, to make it happen, one needs to work on something" but for some others "one need not even lift a single finger as everything whatever is due will just come searching one"

So, here we can understand law of karma is different to different persons and also to persons at different levels. This law of karma needs to be seen from "Divine books" and "not from human books" That karma cannot be understood as well just from mere terms.

When a person who has such heavy baggage of karmas, "one has to learn to make their mind tuned to face anything whatever may come"

It all depends on to when almighty wants to finish all karmas of one, for some such karmas might be half pended to future births or quarterly pended to future births with present birth karmas added as well. To some, God might be rigid upon to finish all karmas of him/her of his/her 1 lakh or 1 crore births after taking care of present birth as well. So, again, it works to different persons at different levels.

That's why I used to say that "this karma logistics is very complex, it cannot be understood by human mind"

So, just keep sailing and move along, that's it. We cannot do nothing much more than that with heavy baggage of karmas on such persons.

One great astrologer once said in this forum that "99% of people always want to hear that gives them real happiness in all lifes, the whole 120 years and such an astrologer who tells everything good about a horoscope or a person whole life only is a GOOD ASTROLOGER" Others are bad to them, they always want to hear these fake and nice things from such an astrologer :lol:

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narayanji,
your words are indeed true and seems like coming from very experienced and matured person. even I voice the same opinion about karma . If one has such a placement one should undergo with dignity and smile. but recently i was reading article written by someone renowned . It was BV raman. he told that for cacelltaion of kalsarpa yoga one should have exalted mercury . what us your take over this. does this work in normal cases.
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Dikshaji:

"he told that for cacellation of kalsarpa yoga one should have exalted mercury"

I recently saw a chart of a male person who has kalasarpa yoga and in fact, he has mercury exalted owning 2nd house, but from his experience as far as what i understood is that even after mercury is exalted that too in his own house, he is still having problems with regards to Money though in the house of money and family, Rahu is there.

So, I felt Rahu is even spoiling that for him as all 9 planets are under the knife. That is why I said in such cases, the other planets even if extremely well placed cannot even move or do anything without the consent of Rahu-Kethu.

So, why as per BV Raman himself that above condition is failing here? I am not an expert like BV Raman Sir or not even anywhere near BV Raman Sir nor even an astrologer. But, from my observation, that Mercury might work well, but that might happen after whatever karmic baggage from one's side is complete.

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narayanji,
it seems you have some good experience of this yoga. one more clarification. you must be aware that kalsarpa yoga has many levels. depending upon the placement of said planets kalsarpa yoga is said to give results. the results for the native will be different for person whose rahu and ketu is placed in 1/7 axis than from other placement. will kalsarpa yoga give same blanket results for everyone or the result of the said yoga will get modified depending upon the placement of planets in different houses of natal chart.everyone with kalsarpa yoga will face problems in married life and money or for some married life will be bad or for some money will be a issue. kindly clarify.
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Dikshaji:

It can affect all aspects of life whether its money, career, marriage, education or other aspects of life. It is not that Rahu-Kethu needs to be only in 1-7 axis, but the thumb rule is that all other 7 planets should not be inside the Rahu-Kethu axis or Kethu-Rahu.

Such natives, in spite of whatever hard work or effort is put or whatever remedies are done, most of them have been complaining that they have not got results for their efforts they have put in, that is such natives may have to face time and again undergoing a knife feeling or undergoing hardships from time to time throughout whole of their life. This is only generalized saying from N number of horoscopes seen.

I have seen 99% of persons with such problems irrespective of Rahu-Kethu placement in their chart.

One example I would say is one of a horoscope of a known person to me. In her horoscope, she has Kalasarpa Yoga. The point is that Rahu is in her 11th house in D-1 and its lord is also well placed in 5th house in Capricorn by position, but even after that, from her experience, her whole life is marred that she has to face several hardships in life, but she will not tell anything to anybody, but she will just keep on suffering and bearing everything in her mind. So, when I looked at her horoscope, I found out that her horoscope also has Kalasarpa. Even Jupiter in the lagna in Virgo inside the axis is not able to help her much.

The only remedy hence is to mitigate the karma whatever they have done in one or many lives.

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naraayanji,
you are right . my brother has rahu and ketu and kalsarpa yoga. despite being in a good position in government job and despite being married to a good girl his life is not good. the problem is not with the situations in life. I see no difficulty in in external circumstances. the external circumstances are conducive. had anyone else been in those situation the person would be happy. but I think someone plagued with kalsarpa yoga has to face difficulty in life pertaining to his own thought process. it is because to his psychological baggage that such person face more problems. they are not happy with their position. it is not their fault. they perceive the world in that way. the karmic baggage that you talk about is nothing the manifestation of bad fate but it their own self made problems that terrorise them. so to say such person are product of their own faulty thought process. people face more severe problems with other horoscopes but these persons have attitudinal flaws.
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Dear Diksha:

"the karmic baggage that you talk about is nothing the manifestation of bad fate but it their own self made problems that terrorise them"

Whatever it is, karma is a karma. Whether it is fate or something else. All living beings including all human beings are just because of that only, whether it is minute one or a bigger picture, whatever it is.

Yes, it might have been self-made, but have u ever thought what is the process of being it self-made? They might have done that much punya karmas in their previous or pre-previous birth and hence, it will give them all sensual and material things in plenty and happiness from such things, which might have helped in creating lot of bad karmas or bad fate as they have exhausted that extreme punyas through bad activities of sensual things, especially against dharma.

Hence again if one creates good karmas, again, 99% out of 100% times, it is going to give only sensual and materialistic things which is related to mind and world in next body or else almighty should be so kind on one not to allow one again into sensual and materialistic things projected by Rahu and Maya as this Rahu and Maya will not allow that easily to get out of this bondage of Karma Bandhana and worldly affairs.

It will try all its way to keep the person binded to this world through acts of Karma, only the persons who have undergone testing will know it.

Again, the exhaustion and creation of karmas keep happening almost endlessley unless the person keeps pleading to Almighty every now and then to take him into his fold once and forever as this karma part can be closed once and forever only at his wish.

"people face more severe problems with other horoscopes but these persons have attitudinal flaws"

Nothing happens without a reason Diskhaji. You can reason it by saying as it might have been due to this, it happened because of this etc. as per one's reasoning, but the truth as to why it happened only can be told exactly by Almighty. That is why I used to say, dont judge anything by whatever comes through your mind, especially karmic things.

Whoever has karma left, whatever it is, has to be born and dead in a body after body almost endlessly enjoying momentary happiness and frustrations and illusions and sadness will keep happening. One cannot avoid it as long as one is in a body, be whatever type of body it is.

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narayan ji,
that's the spiritual way of putting things. If a person is spiritually inclined then your words are golden. but I think on more material plane these people don't have a positive attitude. they lack the necessary mindset to enjoy things. they always crave for something which they don't deserve. at least this what I have observed.there may other reasons too.but according to my experience this is what I have observed. many people in my family have kalsarpa yoga.It is the frustation which is most unlucky thing that they have to suffer from.
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Diksha:

It is not the spiritual way of putting things, but to simply put, all kinds of actions even if a curse by anger also causes a reaction either today or tomorrow. I know there will be frustration or very hard to bear for the mind as mind at the initial phases are not able to pick up such things and hence reacts, but then there is no point in keep on complaining as well.

You are being controlled due to your unknown or known actions in the past and restrictions is put on some areas due to that, as simple as that.

"If a person is spiritually inclined"

Dikshaji, the person is a big zero here, he/she has no part to play to say I am inclined or declined. Almighty says "who are you to decide upon anything"? I do not know myself what is meant by inclination as I have always believed only he is making things work upon.

"It is the frustation which is most unlucky thing that they have to suffer from."

Yes, that's how it works. The said person might have frustrated the other one at some point of time in the past.

"they lack the necessary mindset to enjoy things. they always crave for something which they don't deserve"

All that is because of that yoga. It might be not that they are not deserving, but Rahu and Kethu is not allowing them to enjoy as all other 7 planets are in their custody, but their mind craves for that enjoyment. After craving and craving and craving, if they still do not get, their mind will get tired and transformation happens and this is how their maturity comes far beyond age.

See, the mind cannot enjoy things unendingly because mind has its own limitations, whatever it can take or enjoy is only momentary things. So, hence enjoyment is limited to momentary happiness only. The same is with sadness or emotions. If you have observed yourself, say something bad happened for you or for your family as an example and you started crying, how long time can you cry? Even the tears will be hard to come by after some time of crying.

Even if mind enjoys momentary things, after that it will again start complaining that it is not getting that unending happiness or it will definitely start searching for that unending happiness for gauranteed at some point of time. So, mind will not be happy by whatever u achieve outside from this world, earn or you give it to it as it always wants unending happiness, but it does not know what that unending happiness is. This one will learn with experience as time goes by. So, this is where I said Almighty should be kind on one, but he will also look whether she/he deserves to be out of it.

It does not mean you need not strive for anything. I am not talking spiritual at all, but telling practically after coming to your level. Whatever they are experiencing is all a process happening-something happening back to them as a reaction from their own actions in the past, those who are mature enough in that process, will be calm after that once and forever.

Maturity means patience and ability to tolerate things as the things are rather than keep on complaining even after knowing that, there is no point in complaining.

I always believe in doing things to the best of my effort in all areas. Whatever is the result of it, I accept it as it is. i just keep on moving irrespective of the result. Then only you can have peace.

Say for example, one has taken a loan from a bank, say 1 lakh rupees in year 2000, be it any bank. As per the bank's policy, the person who has taken loan is supposed to pay back not only the principal amount, but also with interest as per bank's norms from time to time. But, say, due to some reason or the other, you are not able to pay it back properly and you have informed everything to bank persons that you are not able to pay it back properly. Might be at their mercy, they might wave some interest, but still they expect you to pay back.

If it is not paid back, the bank people will most probably take over your assets or else some else will loot your money, the same is the case with each and everything in this world. Till time, you or the other person pays back in full in return each and every karma as per Almighty's books, this keeps coming back even if it is after 1 lakh years.

I am stopping here. I have nothing more to say. :)

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narayanji,
you have chosen not to answer further I think because you might be irritated with all that very revealing thing about the said yoga. but I muster guts to ask you some very basic questions. as you know I have some personal experience too. will the person achieve success in life. will the person be so called successful and achieve something tangible in life. I think after so many true exploration of this yoga I think you are best person to answer this.
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Very well written posts Narayanji.

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Very well written posts Narayanji.

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[quote=Dev post_id=128252 time=1345528167 user_id=2551]
I know a relative of mine with rahu ketu in 1,7 position in rasi chart and again in 1,7 position wrt rasi in navamsa. He is in his mid 40s. He was married but had several issues, his wife never respected his parents and she has been dominating till today but still the marriage is surviving. He has 2 kids. But there is no agreement between them. I doubt if they even have little bit of mutual understanding between them.
They live in the US, and she does not like to entertain his parents, even if they go there, she makes it a point to trouble them so that they run away on their own.
He is now running saturn dasa, which started recently but then it was jupiter before and jupiter is exalted in the 4th house along with sukra, sat in 12th.
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i know a similiar case , it is true
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Rahu in lagna and ketu in 7th house will act negatively on any kind of partnership unless good aspect of jupiter on 7th house
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yes, no compatibility but still staying together.
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Dmoom-so many factors alters the nodes effects in marriage matters,particularly the question you posed here.so wec ant generalise the outcome and that is different from case to case.For example-the dispositors of nodes and their placement-aspects-conjunctions /venus and 7th lord positions-aspects-conjunctions things like.Marriage during ketu dasa is somewhat a problematic one but not in rahu dasa.ketu-rahu and rahu-ketu mutual dasa-antharas gives sudden changes in ones life.[either they may be positive or negative in their nature].I have seen several cases with this kind of placement and they are leading normal married life.

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Namah Shivaaya,
Then What does Ketu in 7th house in pisces in Navaamsha signify?
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An employed,spiritual wife.she is a" krushana sthana "or with hanging mammae.Her death is accidental and unnatural kind.she will drown in water and dies.

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Hi
I have ragu in 1st and ketu in 7th and spouse has ketu in 7st and ragu in 1st house.
Arranged marriage, living abroad, big time inlaws issues, now divorced.

But i have venus ,sani and Sun in seventh house. so there was no way out. All through marriage it was fights and problems. But I 11th house is very strong with exalted jupiter. so when 7th house is weak and 11th house (for second marriage) is strong divorce is inevitable.
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Namah Shivaaya,
Thank you Joyd, may i know, what is Krushana sthana?
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small, dry,shrunken mammae sometimes with retracted nipples too.

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Namah Shivaaya,
As long as it doesn't cause any problems to the children it's fine, if she's inclined Spiritually, what else i need
Thanks Joyd
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Hi,

Even I have Ketu in 1st & Rahu in 7th. Arranged marriage in same community and struggled for 10 years. Now husband moved on with another woman.
Though not legally seperated but no contact since 2 years. Didnt believe astrology earlier but after this incident started beliving astrology now.
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