Lance Edward Armstrong is an American road racing cyclist who survived testicular cancer. He has been accused of doping by high-profile cyclists, journalists, anti-doping agencies and U.S. prosecutors.
He has been stripped of his seven Tour de France titles.
Sep 18, 1971.
Place : Plano, texas
Time: Unknown
Since time is unknown one can analyze chart only from Moon lagna or from Atmakaraka, karakamsa.
See exalted Mars conjunct Ra. The conjunction is almost exact. I guess the exact conjunction has caused Ra to produce warped results. I am not a fan on exact conjunction of a planet with Ra. I guess Ra here wrecked havoc here. Ra is a cheat.
I will appreciate inputs from others.
Lance Armstrong and his downfall
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Digambar.Astrologer
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Ghrishneswar ji,
I agree with your analysis. Such a close conjunction of the cheater Ra with the sports man Ma could easily take a wrong turn.
In addition the weakness of Ve creates the possibility that Ra corrupts further when transiting Ve's natal, transit or the Mooltrikon house.
Regards
I agree with your analysis. Such a close conjunction of the cheater Ra with the sports man Ma could easily take a wrong turn.
In addition the weakness of Ve creates the possibility that Ra corrupts further when transiting Ve's natal, transit or the Mooltrikon house.
Regards
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Ghrishnewsar
Just to sidetrack a bit.
Talking about Rahu, yes, even when Rahu is in Jupiter's sign or Nakshatra, it can never be completely like Jupiter. To take an example, if Rahu is placed in such a pattern ie. in Jupiter's sign or in Jupiter's Nakshatra, with no afflictions like conjuncting natural malefics like Mars or Saturn, Rahu will still cash in on opportunities but still within the boundaries of the law.
To take an example, let's say a Manager is in charge of crafting out policies on bank accounts one of which is a joint account. In a joint accunt, any one person can take out money from the account. So by deduction, a good Rahu would say, in clsoing the account also one person can close the account. But then a person with a good Jupiter (Jupiters are good in crafting good policies although Mars is a planet of integrity) would want when closing an ccount, both persons must give their approval. It would be explicitly stated in the policy statement that is crafted.
That is the slight gap between a good Rahu and a non-afflicted Jupiter.
Best Regards
Hock Leong
Just to sidetrack a bit.
Talking about Rahu, yes, even when Rahu is in Jupiter's sign or Nakshatra, it can never be completely like Jupiter. To take an example, if Rahu is placed in such a pattern ie. in Jupiter's sign or in Jupiter's Nakshatra, with no afflictions like conjuncting natural malefics like Mars or Saturn, Rahu will still cash in on opportunities but still within the boundaries of the law.
To take an example, let's say a Manager is in charge of crafting out policies on bank accounts one of which is a joint account. In a joint accunt, any one person can take out money from the account. So by deduction, a good Rahu would say, in clsoing the account also one person can close the account. But then a person with a good Jupiter (Jupiters are good in crafting good policies although Mars is a planet of integrity) would want when closing an ccount, both persons must give their approval. It would be explicitly stated in the policy statement that is crafted.
That is the slight gap between a good Rahu and a non-afflicted Jupiter.
Best Regards
Hock Leong
So much have been said about Graha Yuddha on this forum, I was attacked for having proposed it, Was told I am wrong.
I however have maintained, and still do, that the "Brihat Samhita" makes ambiguous statements on who goes to war and who wins. The slokas are open to more than one interpretation, and if one keeps an open mind, and Follows J hora faithfully with its analysis of when a Graha goes to war, and who goes to war, You can be rest assured that it will reap rich dividends. (I have no comments on how the winner is to be decided. I am still exploring various dictums and options. All I know is that two Grahas in the same degree is a cause for concern, specially if the one of the Grahas happen to be either Rahu or Ketu.)
Now, as per the classical texts on Jyotishya, Kuja, Budha, Shukra, Shani and Guru, are the only Grahas that are capable of Going to war. One of the components of Shad bala is yuddha Bala where only the 5 Grahas mentioned about are taken into consideration.
The argument against me is that, when the Shadbala calculation does not take into consideration Ravi, and Chandra, when it comes to Graha Yuddha, so how can we claim, for example, that if Shani and Chandra are in the same Longitude, that a War is at play.
My counter argument is that, though Rahu and Ketu are excluded from the Shadbala Calculation, we still consider them for effect, why can't we consider a conjunction of Rahu and Chandra within one degree for effect?
here is a example for all to see,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson
Chandra and Rahu are in the same degree while, Shani and Gulika are in the same degree. Check out the aspect on the 4th house.
and that effect should be seen to be believed,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9QXY80O ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIEfmSUQ ... re=related
Some times he does make sense in a twisted kind of way
I however have maintained, and still do, that the "Brihat Samhita" makes ambiguous statements on who goes to war and who wins. The slokas are open to more than one interpretation, and if one keeps an open mind, and Follows J hora faithfully with its analysis of when a Graha goes to war, and who goes to war, You can be rest assured that it will reap rich dividends. (I have no comments on how the winner is to be decided. I am still exploring various dictums and options. All I know is that two Grahas in the same degree is a cause for concern, specially if the one of the Grahas happen to be either Rahu or Ketu.)
Now, as per the classical texts on Jyotishya, Kuja, Budha, Shukra, Shani and Guru, are the only Grahas that are capable of Going to war. One of the components of Shad bala is yuddha Bala where only the 5 Grahas mentioned about are taken into consideration.
The argument against me is that, when the Shadbala calculation does not take into consideration Ravi, and Chandra, when it comes to Graha Yuddha, so how can we claim, for example, that if Shani and Chandra are in the same Longitude, that a War is at play.
My counter argument is that, though Rahu and Ketu are excluded from the Shadbala Calculation, we still consider them for effect, why can't we consider a conjunction of Rahu and Chandra within one degree for effect?
here is a example for all to see,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Manson
Chandra and Rahu are in the same degree while, Shani and Gulika are in the same degree. Check out the aspect on the 4th house.
and that effect should be seen to be believed,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREnvJRkif0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9QXY80O ... re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIEfmSUQ ... re=related
Some times he does make sense in a twisted kind of way
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AB, no matter what this close conjunction is called the results are disastrous.
Nodes are evil for a reason. When very close they tend to take over the planet and infuse their characteristics which are unfortunately mostly negative.
In Charles Mansion case it is an open and shut case. The worst possible 10h with no beneficial aspect.
Moon in grip of ra , sa and gk. ra controlling moon. Total destruction. A very powerful and evil chart.
I think it is the mechanism of influence that causes differences between war, combustion, close conjunction with nodes. In combustion planet damage is caused by absence of positive effects of combust planets. Ra and ketu infuse their negative traits into planet. Other planets get engaged in fight destroying the house and forget what their job is.
Nodes are evil for a reason. When very close they tend to take over the planet and infuse their characteristics which are unfortunately mostly negative.
In Charles Mansion case it is an open and shut case. The worst possible 10h with no beneficial aspect.
Moon in grip of ra , sa and gk. ra controlling moon. Total destruction. A very powerful and evil chart.
I think it is the mechanism of influence that causes differences between war, combustion, close conjunction with nodes. In combustion planet damage is caused by absence of positive effects of combust planets. Ra and ketu infuse their negative traits into planet. Other planets get engaged in fight destroying the house and forget what their job is.
Regards,
Ghrishneswar
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Khoo,Khoo Hock Leong wrote:Ghrishnewsar
Just to sidetrack a bit.
Talking about Rahu, yes, even when Rahu is in Jupiter's sign or Nakshatra, it can never be completely like Jupiter. To take an example, if Rahu is placed in such a pattern ie. in Jupiter's sign or in Jupiter's Nakshatra, with no afflictions like conjuncting natural malefics like Mars or Saturn, Rahu will still cash in on opportunities but still within the boundaries of the law.
Best Regards
Hock Leong
All inputs are relevant and welcome. Thanks for contribution.
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Ghrishneswar
Ghrishneswar
We still don't know for sure that Lance Armstrong is a cheat, he passionately claims he is innocent.
What Rahu brings is controversy. The individual is tainted by scandal. The accusations may turn out to be false (e.g. after a Rahu period has ended), but they stick at least for a while.
What Rahu brings is controversy. The individual is tainted by scandal. The accusations may turn out to be false (e.g. after a Rahu period has ended), but they stick at least for a while.
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Ghrishneswar
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Well he has refused to fight. There is no contest after this . Rahu is scandals. I am not sure if after being banned and titles stripped how can he prove otherwise if he decides not to contest. Unless he fights back it is a done deal. He has always passionately denied any accusations but samples and testimony of team mates give a different picture.
I do not believe that any criminal will say that he has committed the crime. See famous criminals all had very good persuasive powers and convincing arguments. Another Rahu trait.
So his word has lesser value compared to facts and evidence and he knows that. That is why he decided to quit fighting. Whatever he had was worth fighting for. All this is personal opinion.
For the purposes of this discussion:
It is not a controversy anymore. He has been found guilty and all actions have been taken against him.
It is like equivalent to being found guilty and convicted in a traditional court.
I do not believe that any criminal will say that he has committed the crime. See famous criminals all had very good persuasive powers and convincing arguments. Another Rahu trait.
So his word has lesser value compared to facts and evidence and he knows that. That is why he decided to quit fighting. Whatever he had was worth fighting for. All this is personal opinion.
For the purposes of this discussion:
It is not a controversy anymore. He has been found guilty and all actions have been taken against him.
It is like equivalent to being found guilty and convicted in a traditional court.
Regards,
Ghrishneswar
Ghrishneswar
Exalted Mars was conjunct Rahu from approximately April 23rd to October 25th 1971, during which period it spent some time retrograde, though Armstrong's Mars is direct. So, that is a lot of people who would have had that conjunction. I actually know somebody born three days after Lance Armstrong, she is very hot-blooded, she attracts controversy, but I would not call her a cheat. My point is that the truth of the accusation is not important to Rahu, it's much more to do with the tarnishing of a reputation, irrespective of whether it is merited or not, for Rahu is other-worldly and harsh and can seem unfair. There are people who have served long prison sentences for crimes they did not commit. That is akin to the action of Rahu.
