CELEBRATING - THE - TRANSIT - 0F - SATURN - IN LIBRA

[prateak.desai]

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[jegdis5]

Lets Hail Saturn!
JAI JAI SHANI MAHADEV.
I am looking forward to his arrival ..

A warm welcome to my Saturn's return who has helped me immensely.

JAI JAI SHANI MAHADEV.

[Saindhavi]

Jegdis5,

I expected you to say more!

You are not amongst the bad people whom Saturn has helped. But then, Saturn is receding from Libra in your chart.

[jegdis5]

Saindhavi ji,
Though he is receding...But he is still in Libra?
Why he has to help me and turn my life comfortable?
May be I am not getting full benefits of sasha yoga...but Last november 2011 when he was in libra I got a possession of brand new home in UK and a brand new car in feb...What more I can expect as an Ordinary person who even struggled for a one time food once!!...

Got a bad news from my family with regards to my sister on sunday and I was very unhappy and disturbed the whole day.but on monday things changed..Anyways this problem stopped affecting my life becos its thier routine life ..
Otherwise I am happy and till date I have no issues.
I feel more relaxed since yesterday!

Could you tell me when Saturn entered Libra and how long Mars is going to be with him so that I can write my experience in details .
Or do you have a separate thread..

[Saindhavi]

Jegdis5,

He is receding that's why you have to face problems in all your plans.

But he is still in Libra, that's why ultimately you succeed.

Well, you seem to be one good person Saturn has helped. If I see more like you, I'll change my hypothesis above.

Yes, there is a separate thread for Mars-Saturn transit in Virgo-Libra -

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 10&t=15929

[anxious2711]

My observation is that it is usually benefic in those people's charts who are not righteous and they usually flourish in the world. Their passage to rise is helped by a benefic Saturn.

In many cases, a benefic Saturn gives them an unrighteous, selfish character.

On the other hand, righteous people usually have a bad Saturn in their charts and they are the ones who suffer in the world.

Dear Saindhavi ji,

That is not very nice of you to say. Everyone from my generation has an exalted Saturn in their chart.
And what I can say about people from my generation is that we are understanding and very mature for our age. Some may be selfish, some may be proud, many are ambitious but most are mature in their head...

[Saindhavi]

yes, I know you are very good-hearted. So, after Jegdis you are the 2nd one.

It seems I have to debunk that hypothesis after all.

[krishnagopal1968]

Yes I fully agree that righteous people usually have a bad Saturn in their charts and they are the ones who suffer in the world.

But that is becoz it is in my chart and i know i am never unrighteous

[Humannature]

Anxious,
Just being exalted does not make Saturn good for the chart
If it does, it would only mean that good people are born only once in 30 years.

Even though exalted for certain rasis, Saturn is still malefic.

P.S. I am not trying to teach anything to anyone. I am a learner myself and this is just an observation.

[basab14]

Saindhavi ji,

I'll have to look for those threads. I'll send the link to you and I'll think of some books you can read on Historical texts.

I am really glad to hear that you will look for those threads, and it will be really great if you can suggest some books on historical texts.

Saturn-Rahu in Libra should be good for those in whose chart Libra is in a good house. For example, for Libra Lagna people Rahu-Ketu axis in Libra-Aries will be very benefic. Rahu is a friend of Libra Lagna. Combining it with exalted Saturn it should be very benefic. - that is if exalted Saturn in Lagna is good. It will help the growth of the Libra Lagna.

Of course, the situation of Saturn-Rahu in the natal charts has to be considered in order to calculate full effect of this conjunction.

But for those in whose charts Libra is in a negative house it will be problematic - e.g., for Pisces, Scorpio and Leo. Saturn-Rahu are also enemies of these Lagnas.

Thank you for explaining this point as I was confused about it.

As for Mars-Saturn transit in Virgo-Libra, lighting til oil diya facing West and reciting Hanuman Chalisa should help.

Thank you for suggesting a remedy.

[krishnagopal1968]

Dear HN,

Hope you wont mind my view to your post addressed to anxious.

Yes you are right that though exalted, saturn is still a malefic to certain rasis/lagnas. But the same logic goes to jupiter too (i mean malefic qualities of jupiter)

I have seen exalted jupiter creating a havoc for taurus lagna charts. And venus for pisces/sagi lagna charts. Even in transits, these natural benefics dont help much for these lagnas.

But what i dont agree is the blanket statements that jupiter is good and saturn is bad! Jupiter is never practical, full of idealism and if exalted gives arrogance of knowledge too! But saturn, practical to core, no imaginary idealism but workable ones, humble, disciplined etc! (i dont say he is all good, but these are laudable qualities)

Our Vedic Astrology has a fine view, ie, Functional lordships. It recognises natural beneficiency only to a very limited extent.

In many cases 9th lord from lagna gives what a natural jupiter has to give and 8th/12th lord gives what a natural saturn has to give

[Humannature]

Krishnagopal ji,
Leaving functional malefics and benefics aside, What I meant to say was that since Saturn is a natural malefic, just because Saturn is exalted he does not lose his maleficity...... and just because he is exalted does not mean he is well placed for every chart born in his period of exaltation
If that was the case people who rise in life are only born once every 30 years.
I think even Saindhavi ji is saying "Saturn is well placed in the charts of most unrighteous people" and not "Saturn is exalted in most unrighteous people".

[basab14]

I feel Saturn, or for that matter any malefic, even if a functional benefic, will always give some trouble in its period, and the same way any benefic, even if it is a functional malefic, will always give something good in its period.

[Humannature]

Krishnagopal ji,
I agree with Jupiter not being benefic at all times..but Jupiter IS a natural benefic and inspite of whatever placement it will still retain it's benefic characteristics.
but who said benefic nature of planet always equals good for native?

Nobody likes a person who sticks to schedule, does everything correct and is a stickler for the rules in these days..

[krishnagopal1968]

Ok HN , Agreed

[elipsis]

ajnana pralaya

[krishnagopal1968]

Elipsis ji ,

I agreed as every one has a right to be right

[elipsis]

KG,

I know. I was speaking metaphorically - not a personal attack on any experts.

best

[anxious2711]

Anxious,
Just being exalted does not make Saturn good for the chart
If it does, it would only mean that good people are born only once in 30 years.

Even though exalted for certain rasis, Saturn is still malefic.

P.S. I am not trying to teach anything to anyone. I am a learner myself and this is just an observation.

Dear HN,

I believe that a malefic planet when exalted reduces its maleficence. An exalted planet is very happy, whereas a debilitated planet is unhappy, now which one of those do you think will be meaner? The happy or the miserable planet. The miserable planet will tend to take out its frustration on others whereas the happy planet will be more generous and forgiving.
What I am saying is that although the functionality of the planets changes for each chart, overall an exalted functional malefic Shani will cause less harm than a debilitated one and might even do good.
Check out this article to see what a debilitated functional malefic can do: "Upon Considering Debilitation in the Jyotish Chart by Alison Berker"

We have a perfect example on the forum, look at Jegdish's chart. For him, Shani is a functional malefic and also Badhakesh exalted in the 7th house.
Now, he's had his share of problems, first to get married, than living apart from his wife, and he also suffered some health problems, but at the end of the day Shani dev also blessed him in many ways...

At any time, the planetary positions are the same, your lagna only defines how these planet influence you (benefic/malefic) but the planetary disposition in the sky won't change...

Also, I am not saying that those who have an exalted Shani in their chart are good or bad people and I am definitely not saying that good people are born every 30 years, all I am saying is that you shouldn't jump to conclusion that people with exalted Shani are mean or selfish. I have just given the description of these people according to my observations, just like I would say that people with debilitated Mercury in their chart (regardless of house placement) are more in touch with their inner child (or "childish" if you prefer) or that people with an exalted Sun have some sort of Tej in them.

One planet does not make or break a chart.

[ash24]

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Hi All,
I am Libra asc. and sat. in 4th in his own sign, in transit what result it will give to me??/ please advise.

[gaurav1185]

FYI a friend of mine has a exalted Saturn in lagna. He has played heart games with so many girls/ladies and cheated them. He is far away from being righteous.
Lately he got married with a very nice girl and is living a happy life.

Yes I fully agree that righteous people usually have a bad Saturn in their charts and they are the ones who suffer in the world.

But that is becoz it is in my chart and i know i am never unrighteous

[deeps]

Did he cheat them or the girls cheated him as they did not reciprocate love to him that he had for them in his heart?

[gaurav1185]

he used the girls for enjoyment. He never had love for any of them...just the lust. He has taken plenty of paid services as well.

[basab14]

Gaurav,

It is very strange to hear his story. I am amazed that a person with exalted Saturn in lagna can turn out to be a lustful person. How is his Venus? Where is it placed and with which planet, if any? I would not be surprised if his Venus is with Mars or Rahu and in the 5th, or 7th, or 8th, or 12th house. I would not be surprised if the person was running the period of Venus, or Mars, or Rahu when he acted like a playboy. No way could it have been the period of Saturn, or Jupiter.

[deeps]

Gaurav,

I am shocked. Very Shocked. There must be other combinations in his chart? Can you share the details?