Clarifications on Narayana Dasa

[CLOST]

Hello everyone

I would be grateful if anyone could shed light on the following doubts that I have come across while learning about Narayan Dasa:

- In the D-1 ND, if the dasa order begins from the 7th sign from lagna, then it is said that for all subsequent MDs, ADs and so on so forth, the 7th from the stated dasa sign should be considered the progressed lagna. And everything paka, bhoga, deha, jeeva, occupants, aspectors, arudhas etc. should be judged using the 7th from the sign in question.

For eg. For a native with Pisces Lagna if ND of D1 begins with Virgo MD, then upon encountering a subsequent dasa - MD, AD or PD etc. of lets say Libra, we would need to study everything from Aries (7th from Libra) and not Libra itself.

Have I understood it correctly? Please do correct me if I made an error above.

- In the three part rule of Narayana Dasa, depending on the dasa sign being Seershodaya, Prishtodaya or Ubhayodaya, we can divide the results of tenure of the dasa into three equals parts belonging to House, Lord, Occupants/Aspectors.

My question is when there are multiple occupants/aspectors to a sign how will we determine which planet will give its results when.

From two different sources I have found two answers :

a) to order the planets who are occupants and aspectors according to their longitude and divide the 1/3rd part of ND to further parts and assign one part each to each planet.

So if for a seershodaya sign the last 1/3rd of ND (of duration 4 years) gives the results of occupants and aspector planets, and there are 4 such planets. Then we would divide the 4 years into 4 parts and assign to one planet each.

Is this correct? And if so, is the ordering in increasing or decreasing order of longitude? And how would we judge the situation where both rahu and ketu are involved?

b) second way, is to just order the planets based on decreasing beneficence.


Please can someone guide me on this.
Thank you.

[astro123]

Hello everyone

I would be grateful if anyone could shed light on the following doubts that I have come across while learning about Narayan Dasa:

- In the D-1 ND, if the dasa order begins from the 7th sign from lagna, then it is said that for all subsequent MDs, ADs and so on so forth, the 7th from the stated dasa sign should be considered the progressed lagna. And everything paka, bhoga, deha, jeeva, occupants, aspectors, arudhas etc. should be judged using the 7th from the sign in question.

For eg. For a native with Pisces Lagna if ND of D1 begins with Virgo MD, then upon encountering a subsequent dasa - MD, AD or PD etc. of lets say Libra, we would need to study everything from Aries (7th from Libra) and not Libra itself.

Have I understood it correctly? Please do correct me if I made an error above.

- In the three part rule of Narayana Dasa, depending on the dasa sign being Seershodaya, Prishtodaya or Ubhayodaya, we can divide the results of tenure of the dasa into three equals parts belonging to House, Lord, Occupants/Aspectors.

My question is when there are multiple occupants/aspectors to a sign how will we determine which planet will give its results when.

From two different sources I have found two answers :

a) to order the planets who are occupants and aspectors according to their longitude and divide the 1/3rd part of ND to further parts and assign one part each to each planet.

So if for a seershodaya sign the last 1/3rd of ND (of duration 4 years) gives the results of occupants and aspector planets, and there are 4 such planets. Then we would divide the 4 years into 4 parts and assign to one planet each.

Is this correct? And if so, is the ordering in increasing or decreasing order of longitude? And how would we judge the situation where both rahu and ketu are involved?

b) second way, is to just order the planets based on decreasing beneficence.


Please can someone guide me on this.
Thank you.

The best way i guess is to study it from Arudha Lagna just like we would from lagna when we study Vim Dasha...Consider AL as the new Asc and see where the running dasha/bhukti rashi's are from the AL ..If they are in 6/8/12th expect struggles and if they are in quadrants/trines with benefic planets in them we may assume a relatively smoother ride

[CLOST]

Dear Shrikanth

I logged into the profile after a long time and hadn't noticed your reply earlier. I will give it a read later tonight when I'd be able to give it my full attention.

Just wanted to thank you for your detailed reply


Regards
Clost

[CLOST]

Dear Shrikanth

I went through your reply yesterday and cannot thank you enough for clarifying my doubts.

Dear CLOST,

Here are my notes from PVR's class.

Three Parts Rule
For each Dasa, the results during this long period is usually inclusive of the following results
1) Results based on the house from lagna.
2) Results based on placement of house lord.
3) Results based on planets conjoined / aspecting the house.
4) Results based on the other ownerships of the lord of this house (when planets owns multiple houses)

In the paragraph above, you mentioned about the general trend of results. Are these felt throughout the entire dasa period (over all the three separate parts) or only during the one-third part ruled by the dasa rasi?

This one-third part associated with the lord can be subdivided into four equal parts.
The order in which the four parts come into play is dependent on the benefic/malefic nature of the planet.
Benefic
First part - Gives the result of the house he is occupying - Benefic planets are concerned about the place they are in irrespective of their portfolio/needs. Care for others.
Second part - Gives the results of the houses owned by the planet. His own responsibilities.
Third part - Gives the results of the yogas and associations of the planet. Rajayoga and duryogas and etc.,
Fourth part - Gives the results of the state of the planet; depressed, proud, excited,
Avasthas of the planet. Basic Avasthas and Sayanadi avasthas.

Malefic
First part - Gives the results of the state of the planet; depressed, proud, excited,
Avasthas of the planet. Basic Avasthas and Sayanadi avasthas.
Second part - Gives the results of the yogas and associations of the planet. Rajayoga and duryogas and etc.,
Third part - Gives the results of the houses owned by the planet.
Fourth part - Gives the result of the house he is occupying.

Moon is considered Benefic if in Shukla Paksha or Malefic if in Krishna paksha.
Mercury is considered Benefic based on associations.

I have two silly questions; pardon me.

For the 1/4th part that gives the results of the raja yogas or duryogas is it okay if I refer to the yogas section (under other strengths) in Jhora. For eg. if Ven is the planet in question and is participating in a VPR yoga, then it will give the results of Vipareeta Raja in this 1/4th part?

For the 1/4th part that gives the results of the houses owned by the planet - a planet owning a dushthana+other house (6th & 11th, 3rd & 8th, 8th & 9th) will give mixed results?

The third available spot is assigned to the planets conjoining or aspecting (by Rasi drishti).
Now each of the planets in this group get an equal share in this part.
The order or sequence in which these planets play a part is dependent on the longitude of the individual planets.
The most advanced planet (amongst the influencers) gets the first slice within this part, next and so on.

In this part should I consider the absolute longitude of the planet (Ven 20Pis(350 deg) >Sun 29Ari (29 deg)) or the longitude sorting we use for chara karakas (Sun 29Ari > Ven 20Pis)?

Many thanks and regards
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[lovacrs]

Shrikanth ji,

I had similar doubts. Somehow CLOST's second set of queries seem to have gone unnoticed. Hope you will respond to them.
Also your reponse to first set of queries did not address the 7th sign rule. Specifically in my Narayan Dasa in JHORA, I see the dasa starting from Sg which is the 7th sign. Now if JHORA shows the current period as Le-Aq-Ar, should I see the results from Aq-Le-Li ? For Paaka, Bhaya and Arudha also do we have to reckon from Aq-Le-Li?

Second query - You have mentioned how the period is to be divided into three parts. While judging the results of say Aq-Le will the 1/3 rdpart of Le come out of the 1/3rd part of Aq (i.e, 1/9th part)?

[CLOST]

Dear lovacrs

I have had these exact queries for sometime now. I also read your post on another thread.

One doubt I have is, if ultimately we study lagna and not the 7th sign then why show the progression as the progression on the 7th house at all?

If we are ultimately going to consider the 7th therefrom for all calculations.
For eg.
My ND for D-1 begins with the 7th house Sg. Right now I am in Sc. If I am going to consider Ta = 7th from Sc for DPC, Paka, Bhoga, Jeeva, etc...then what was the logic for using Sc in the first place.

Regards
Clost

[lovacrs]

Dear CLOST ji,

if ultimately we study lagna and not the 7th sign then why show the progression as the progression on the 7th house at all?

This one I can answer. The sequence of Dasa and the length changes and hence the results will also change. For e.g, if Ta dasa period os 2 years and that of Sc 12 years, then seeing result from Ta for Ta as against seeing it from Sc would be 2 years against 10. Also presence of Sa and Ke can change the sequence of the sign from where you will see the results.

Also I happened to get responses for some of my doubts in another forum. Only MD's results will be seen from 7th from MD sign if the dasa seed was 7th and not lagna. i.e., antara sign result will be seen from antara sign.
(even though the ND is now seen as progression of 7th sign).

The other doubts that I have and remain open are:

1. Antara will start from the sign where stronger of MD sign or 7th from it is located. If 7th lord is stronger do we the result from 7th from AD sign?
2. Do we apply all rules on result sign or MD sign? (Paaka, Paada .......)

CRS