A Stricter View on Prosperity

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Learned Members

This stricter view on prosperity discounts a lot of houses and a lot of planets.

Moon is discarded. Moon gives wealth and the ability to enjoy one's fruits in this lifetime. Here prosperity is defined as never ending inflow of riches, and Moon unless very well placed, is more changeable and signifies more the fulfillment of the mind rather than outright riches per se, although in classics, Moon represents the clestial horse.

5th house is discounted. As discussed in earlier posts, unless you have a planet in the 5th aspecting some combination of planets in the 11th, 5th is not a straight giver of prosperity. In fact BPHS wants a planet in the 5th in its own sign with some combination of planets in the 11th to give GREAT PROSPERITY. These kind of configurations, if it exist which are related to the 5th house, are first class Dhana Yoga. Most ordinary folks with an ordinary 5th house configurations normally do not get such luck of great prosperity.

2nd house is discounted. 2nd has to do with attainment of a worldy status after achieving what you are set to achieve in this world as signified by the 10th house. It can be gains, it can also be losses. It is like a balance of statement of trade between yourself and the outside world, just like the 12th house is a profit/loss statement of ad-hoc transactions of the 11th.

Houses 4th and 10th have to do with material comforts. It can easily swing towards the lack of it in a chart.

12th house of never ending yielding of income is also discounted. It depends on a good combination of planets existing in the 12th more so than any other Dhana houses. 12th also depends a lot on other houses for it to give fruits like the 7th and the 8th.

Sun is discounted. Sun gives stable high income but it does not reach the definition of prosperity as defined in this thread.

Similarly 7th and 8th the house of business and business loans depend to a large extent on the configurations of planets there.

Mercury can rivet your wealth upwards but Mercury is very susceptible to influnece by other planets in the chart and can be highly variable in its influence.

Saturn can give gains ie. money comes in but only if it is related to the 11th house.

That leaves the following houses that give STRAIGHT prosperity : 9th and 11th.

That also leaves the following Grahas that give prosperity inclinations : Jupiter, Venus and Mars.

9th is the 11th of the 11th so gives gains of the highest order. 9th is fortune (Jupiter is the karaka of 9th and when related to the 9th it gives GREATER fortune). 9th is higher order luck (5th is luck ie.past life credits but 9th being 5th of the 5th, makes this past life credits avaialbe for experience in this lifetime ie. to the next stage in the process of being fulfilled).

5th may be the 9th of the 9th but being the 3rd of the 3rd, 5th is more of accomplishments in an authorship sense (with the 9th of the 9th providing the background fortune). The outright gains as promised by the 11th is not there unless there are certain configurations as explained above. Jupiter is the karaka of the 5th for WISDOM generally.

11th house is the house of outright gains and nothing can be said of prosperity without mentioning the 11th house.

Venus is Lakshmi and is prosperity. Venus alone when ruling the 9th and placed in kendra or trikona is a high form of Lakshmi Yoga.

Jupiter is prosperity because Jupiter rules expansion, wealth and gains. It is also the karaka of the 11th (besides the 9th). Jupiter is the clestial elephant.

Mars is prosperity because Mars signifies gains when related to the 11th. Imagine a planet signifying gains in the house of gains. Mars in 9th is regulated by the laws of the 9th and gives long term accomplishments ie. abiding by the rules and laws besides the normal energy and accomplishments as provided by Mars. Mars get regulated by Jupiter when placed in the 9th. It would be better and more beneficial if Mars conjuncts a natural benefic in the 9th.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[elipsis]

You are absolutely right about Mercury. It is highly susceptible to distraction. In my view, Mercury can focus on one thing at a time, if distracted (by other planets) it can give sub-par results.

[Ghrishneswar]

Khoo,
Question for you.
I have this chart of a person in which Ju is aspecting Ve (7th aspect) and mars is aspecting Ve.
All three are in mutual kendra in Rasi chart. JU is apecting Sun the 9H lord and 11H lord Ve.
Venus is neecha. I never realized that this placement can giver prosperity. The guy started poor after father's death but is now well to do.
27-Nov-1975, 8:43 AM, Lucknow.

When I saw the chart I never could think that he would have money. 11H lord Ve is neecha, 2H lord saturn in 8H in enemy sigh and 5H lord mars in 7H in enemy sign. 9L lord Sun is in 12H.
But I guess both results have manifested.Poverty after father's death as well as prosperity since Jan 2000.

What are your inputs? Have I interpreted this right?

[Govindaram]

Hi khoo,

I agree with your view on Mars in 9th,they follows certain rules and regulation to attain success. I have one question, you said Jupiter is the karaga for 11 th house , wat happens when jupiter is the owner of 11 th house (Taurus Lag) placed in 10 th?how can you interpret it?

Thank you

[rohitverma]

Dear Hock Leong,

I am gemini Lagna, with Lord of 11th house (Aries) Mars placed in own house with Exalted SUN and LL mercury.
The karaka for 11th house Jupiter is exalted in the 2nd house.
The 9th Lord Saturn is in Leo in the 3rd house and is vargottam in D-9.

But Prosperity is far far away. I have lost my job, businesses are not working out though I have tried many.

Please suggest something?

RV

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Dear Rohitverma

I think you should have a lot at your D-11 (instead of rasi) with the 5th house as Ascendant. Do you still get Gemini as an Ascendant? Give me the planet placements for this chart and the Ascendant sign.

Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Dear Govindram

Jupiter is lord of 8th and 11th for a Taurean Ascendant is a first class functional malefic. This placement of Jupiter gives A LOT OF HARD WORK. Why? Jupiter as lord of the 11th goes 12th to it meaning no easy gains unlike what the 11th promised. Jupiter being 3rd to the 8th house (the house it rules) means work is of an intense nature (3rd to the 8th and 8th stands for intense effort).

Jupiter, however, shows something that we are good at, it being the karaka of the 5th (Jupiter karaka of the 5th not only stands for WISDOM butalso ACUMEN and STATESMANSHIP), and in the 10th, he willingly slogs notwithstanding he being ruler of the 8th and 11th.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Dear Ghrishnewar

If you look at his D-11 taking 5th house as an Ascendant he gets a Pisces Ascendant.

You can at once see both dhana and poverty yogas operating at one go.

His second house has Mars Yogakaraka aspecting Saturn. Both Mars and Saturn are ruler of Dhana houses as well. But Saturn also rules the 12th. Both retrogade so they go into the 1st house showing will and effort to mitigate his circumstances.

Mercury, Jupiter (Lagna Lord) and Sun all goes into the 10th - a man of his own accomplishment and effort. Sun rules 6th so it shows there are struggles on his way to reach the top (not like Meryl Streep who only has Mercury+Jupiter in the 10th but also with mutable signs in Kendras with Jupiter as the Lagna Lord.).

His Venus ruler of 3rd and 8th goes to the 6th and thus is a Vipareet Raja Yoga. It is helped by conjuncting the trinal lord Moon. Rahu is 4th and 12th lord and adds to some difficulties to the configuration as well.

Overall you can see his positive aspects of his yoga in his FUTURE D-11 triumphs over the bad aspects.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Dear Ghrishnewar

There is one additional point which I forgot to metnion about the placement of planets in the 6th house ie. Venus, Rahu and the Moon.

Moon is well placed in Leo but Venus is not. So Rahu accentuates the good placement of Moon and downplays the bad placement of Venus. Which also means the Vipareet Raja Yoga given by Venus is downplayed but the Moon's trianal effects is accentuated. This in some ways make his life less of a struggle to achieve success.

So there a couple of checks and balances of good and bad effects of the Yogas found in his chart.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Govindaram]

hi khoo,

Thanks for your reply. You said Jupiter is a functional malefic for Taurus lagna. i agree!But it is also the owner of 11th house , so when can you consider it as the (house of gain planet) benefic planet, bcos it has to give the profits to the native!!!

[Khoo Hock Leong]

It can give profits to the native but only after much hard work. Generally the native is unlucky unless Saturn is well placed, Saturn being the dispositor.

[rohitverma]

Dear Hock Leong,

Thanks for looking into the matter.

The Details are as below:

DOB: 12th May 1979
Time: 7:53 AM
Place: Midnapore, West Bengal, India (22 Deg 15 Mins N and 87 Deg 39 Mins E)

D-1
Gemini Lagna
House 1: Gemini (lagna)
House 2: Cancer - Jupiter (Exalted)
House 3: Leo - Saturn (Vargottam) and Rahu
House 4: Virgo
House 5: Libra - Moon
House 6: Scorpio
House 7: Sagitarius -
House 8: Capricorn
House 9: Aquarius - ketu
House 10; Pisces - Venus (Exalted)
House 11: Aries - mars (Own House), Mercury, Sun (Exalted)
House 12 : Libra

D-9 (navamsa)
House 1: Sagitarius - SUN
House 2: Capricorn -
House 3: Aquarius
House 4: Pisces - VENUS (Vargottam)
House 5: Aries - KETU
House 6: Taurus - MARS
House 7: Gemini - Mercury (own House), Moon
House 8: cancer -
House 9: Leo - Shani
House 10: Virgo- Jupiter (Exalted)
House 11: Scorpio

I would be really grateful if you can kindly show me the way. I am having a tough time.

Regards,
RV

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Rohitverma

I meant your D-11. I suspect the reason why you lost your job and has such a good Gemini Ascendant in the Rasi the answer could be found in D-11 the chart by Sanjay Rath, taking the 5th house as an Ascendant. It may not be a Gemini Ascendant there.

Give me your birth details and I will input into JHora. But your birth details must be ACCURATE. I believe if a chart works for several and does not work for another person, the birth details must be inaccurate for one reason or another.

Hock Leong

[vnt5007]

hi khoo sir,
my 5th house<ARIES> has jupiter,sun,venus and ketu. 11th<libra> has RAHU in it. What kind of professions does ARIES indicate. i am 35 now but have not achieved my full potential. Is it only after 50 my future ascendant will come into play. THANKS in ADVANCE.

[rohitverma]

Dear Hock Leong,

Thanks for the reply and for taking interest in my chart.

My birth details are accurate as given below:
DOB: 12th May 1979
Time: 7:53 AM
Place: Midnapore, West Bengal, India (22 Deg 15 Mins N and 87 Deg 39 Mins E)

I have been working since 2005, but was never satisfied with my job, never. I was interested in business since my college days. I was never interested in Studies either, but I managed to complete my Masters in Engineering (In India one cannot be a college drop out, he will not get to eat)and was working in a good Company, but was never satisfied, I always thought that I can do much better that what I was doing and I am better than my bosses.

When I lost my job last year in April 2011, I started a business. It did not work out. It was more due to lack of money and lack of initiative or enthusiasm from my part. Otherwise it could have worked out.

Now recently again I have started another venture. It is related to education in computer science. I have taken the first few steps and it seems that with some luck I can be successful.

Regarding getting a job, things are not working out at all. Not a single interview in the last one year.

Hope this helps you to analyze the matter.

Regards
RV

[rrr1519]

Dear Khoo,

My chart is having Mars in 9th house of Gemini and this has certainly helped me attain quite good success.

Regards
RRR

[rohitverma]

Dear Hock Leong,

Please throw some light.

Regards,
RV

[Khoo Hock Leong]

5th lord can give prosperity provided it is in the 5th house in its own sign OR if found in the 11th house where besides soaking up the prosperity of the 11th house, it is also aspecting its own house which is the 9th of the 9th.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

ANY planet placed in the 9th or 11th is also prosperous provided the planet does not rule a Dusthana (6th, 8th or 12th) and at the same time it is not a trinal lord.

Planet ruling the 3rd but placed in 9th or 12th is mildly prosperous.

ANY planet placed in the 5th is also mildly prosperous if the planet is not in its own sign and the planet does not rule a Dusthana (here the definition of Dusthana covers the 6th, 8th, 12th and 3rd).

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

For the 3rd condition above on the 5th house, the more well placed the planet is in the sign like in a best friend' or friend sign, the more prosperous it would become. That is no more just mildly prosperous anymore.

Of course the best would be the planet placed in its own sign in the 5th house.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Note also the following :

(1) The 9th and 11th lords combined make the houses in which they are in very prosperous.

(2) Note the special case when Sagittarius or Gemini or Scorpio or Aquarius in on the 5th house with either one of their co-rulers in the sign. The other co-ruler which is not in that sign ie. the dispositor would be prosperous even though it is only a 5th house lord based on previous criteria. In this case because the other co-ruler is in its own sign in the 5th house, the 5th house lord becomes propserous even though it is not placed in the th or 11th.

Note that if it is Ketu that is in Sagittarius in the 5th or Rahu in Gemini in the 5th, the other node would automatically be in its own sign in the 11th. So this combination is better than with the other co-ruler ie. Jupiter in Sagittarius in the 5th or Mercury in Gemini in the 5th UNLESS there is the required planets in the 11th as detailed in BPHS.

If both co-rulers are in their own sings in the 5th, it is a very good Dhana Yoga.

(3) Dispositors of the 9th or 11th lords are also prosperous although not as much as the 9th or 11th lord per se.

(4) Aspects by the 9th or 11th lord make the house or planet being aspected prosperous. This covers exchange involving 9th or 11th lords as well.

(5) Conjunction with the 9th or 11th lord of a planet make the houses which the planet rules prosperous.

9th and 11th lords are saviours in the chart. 5th lord in the 5th or 11th or good planets in the 5th are also saviours.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Of course when the 5th lord is in its own sign, it would mean that its Rasi Tulya Navamsa position (its other position in the Rasi chart) would also contribute towards prosperity. Likewise if its Rasi Tulya Navamsa position happened to be in the 5th house in its own sign.

And consider retrogade positions etc.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

The other way where the 5th lord can get enhanced is when it combines with the 9th lord ie. a conjunction.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[rathodp]

I have taurus ascendent but I found my Jupiter dasha to be the best in my whole life,Jupiter dasha gave me almost everything in life.But am now struggling in Shani dasha.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Other caveats :

(1) 9th and 11th lords combine can be doubly strong.

(2) 9th or 11th lord conjuncting a node and when the lord is placed in a powerful sign, would make the conjunction doubly powerful, as discussed in the past post about a node.

(3) 9th or 11th lord placed in 4th or 10th Bhava is good as career aspirations pay off.

(4) Unlike 5th lord in the 5th, 9th lord in the 9th makes the 12th to 10th concept too powerful. The person can sometimes hardly make headway in terms of career progress. All the more for a Tuarean Ascendant when Saturn is in the 9th as Saturn rules the 10th as well. But materially in this case (9th lord in 9th), there is always a safety net for the person.

(5) 9th or 11th lord conjuncting Sun is bad unless the planet is Mercury. Next would be Venus or Saturn (both planets longevity would not be affected meaning figuratively the attribute still exist and does not die, the attribute whether love or authority that engender gains for Venus or Saturn respectively). Mars is OK (through my insight, this is not from classics) if both Mars and Sun are well placed in signs. Moon gives royal status. That leaves only Jupiter truly affected though all other planets are affected to a certain degree as ranked aforesaid.

(6) Jupiter as 8th and 11th lord for Taurean Ascendant or Mercury as 8th and 11th lord for Scorpio Ascendant can be very good if either planet is situated in the 8th and gets the Great Parasara exception.

(7) 9th and 11th lord involve in any good Yoga, even Neecha Bhanga Yoga (or NBRY), can enhance its goodness.

Rathodp, your statement about your Juiter and Saturn could be for any reason, including but not limited to the points which I have mentioned in this thread.

Warmest regards
Hock Leong