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paro.xiss

Dear Forum Members,

Here's one more case study for Divorce.
DOB:1-7-1984[1st July]
Time : 1450 hrs[2:50 PM]
Place : Nainital, India.
Married in Nov 2008.
Divorced on 4th Feb 2012.
Eldest of 3 daughters.

Really sad, as her parents have struggled a lot in life & regd marriage of the 3 daughters & she is an ideal daughter. It's really tough to marry off 3 daughters in U.P. Dunno why fate is sometimes so cruel.

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What a mess. There is too much of Rahu in this chart. :(
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paro.xiss wrote:Dear Forum Members,

Here's one more case study for Divorce.
DOB:1-7-1984[1st July]
Time : 1450 hrs[2:50 PM]
Place : Nainital, India.
Married in Nov 2008.
Divorced on 4th Feb 2012.
Eldest of 3 daughters.

Really sad, as her parents have struggled a lot in life & regd marriage of the 3 daughters & she is an ideal daughter. It's really tough to marry off 3 daughters in U.P. Dunno why fate is sometimes so cruel.

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dear Paro.xiss,

thanks for sharing the case-study,

--Mars is conjunct with the Rasi Lagna innimical in the house of Venus and further afflicted by conjunction with very strong enemy Saturn.

--afflicted Mars is the 7th lord and casting a very harsh drishti on the 7th house in Rasi

--Marriage Karak Venus is combust in rasi

--Inimical Mars in the navamsa ( but not as afflcited as Rasi) is also conjunct with Nvamsa lagna and aspecting the 7th house...and venus is mildly afflicted by Rahu.

--Mars is the divorce-karak here rather harsh.....and as stated above the marriage house lords and Shukra are also weak.
Hence when strong shani transitted over natal afflicted Mars-Shani conjunction....it completed the break, especially given that self-will to hold on may have been less also. Also the nodes were at the same time transitting over opposing nodes in the natal chart hitting the 2-8 axis taking the homely happiess and physical bliss out of the marriage since Jun 2011, making the separation easier.
This inspite of Ra and Ket both being positive for her chart...neverthless the transit of nodes over nodes is difficult even when thy are positive for the Rasi chart

--the temperament of the girl appears aggressive and career/ independence may be her priority.....and that may have added towards the break.....even the benfic strong Jupiter could not save if the self-will was lacking.
And if she is working or chooses to work..atleast her career will do well.

--A 2nd relationhsip, but not fully translating into marriage is strong possibility...after Feb 2013

regards

PS* Such cases are indeed sad...but remember you reap here what you sowed earlier
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Dear Shilpa Ji & Other Astrologers on the forum,

I was asked to analyze the chart of two female natives w/o revealing their identities. What struck me was the number of planets in Dusthana in both charts.
Birth Details are given below:-
Native 1) 3-Nov-1982; 19:45; Lucknow, Female.
6th H Libra has 2L&5L Me;LL Venus in own House, 9L,10L Exalted Sa, 8L-11L Ju & Deb 4L Sun, both Jupiter & Venus are combust. 7L Mars is in 8th House in Ra-Ke Axis.
I have been told that this girl got married in 2004, Separated in 2009, is jobless with a 4year old kid & has filed for divorce[just what I suspected].
Native 2) 6-May-1984; 19:23; Lucknow, Female.
Sun-Merc-Venus in 6th, Moon in 3rd , Sat-Mars in 12th, planets in Dusthana might be feeling like crowded close-in fielders for Spinner.
Still Unmarried I am told. Left well-paying job due to compatibility issues & office politics.

Both charts are such that even AB ji will be forced to say that in such charts free will is zero % & Fate 100%.


Astrologers on the forum may please give their insights on these charts, with regard to married life & career[doubt there isn't much to write home about].

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Dear Shilpa Ji & other forum members,
Please find below the chart of an Female MBBS Doctor,doing reasonably well in
profession
, who got divorced.
SEPT 1ST 1973;01.57 PM;NAGDA, MP INDIA; Female
Date of Marriage: 18th Feb 1999 in Ju-Ve MD/AD
Separated in Mid 2000 in Jup/Sun MD/AD
Divorced:Jan 30th 2002 in Jup/Moon MD/AD.
She cleared her PG after the divorce and is now settled abroad.
Youngest in family with no brother.

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paro.xiss wrote:Dear Shilpa Ji & other forum members,
Please find below the chart of an Female MBBS Doctor,doing reasonably well in
profession
, who got divorced.
SEPT 1ST 1973;01.57 PM;NAGDA, MP INDIA; Female
Date of Marriage: 18th Feb 1999 in Ju-Ve MD/AD
Separated in Mid 2000 in Jup/Sun MD/AD
Divorced:Jan 30th 2002 in Jup/Moon MD/AD.
She cleared her PG after the divorce and is now settled abroad.
Youngest in family with no brother.

What are divorce agents, which caused separation?
Few points:-
1)LL Mars is in 6th House, 7L Ve is deb, so is 2L,5L Jupiter. Rahu-Ketu are not doing well either being in Sagittarius & Gemini, respectively.3L,4L Sa is in 8H. LL & 7L are Shadashtaka.
2)Navamsa has 7L in 6H with Su-Mars.

Are these factors enough for Divorce?

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--I believe the important thing in this chart is that Lagna sign changes in 4:23 minutes in the Rasi....and moves to Saggitarius.

--Lagna Lord now Jup is debilitated.

--Rasi chart is now on the 1-7 axis of Ra-Ket and they are in dramatically opposite Ket-Rahu's Nakshatra respectively.....bad placeemnt for both Ra-Ket.

--7th Lord Me is badly combust and marriage karak Venus is debilitated.

--In Navamsa the 7th lord and marriage karak Venus is afflicted by conjunction with Rahu in the 4th houe of homely happiness.

--at the time of divorce Rah-Ket were transitting throuhg 7th and 1st house respectively.

The dasa lord debilitated was a weak period...the 7th lord combust and marroage karak debilitaed made the foundation of Marriage weak.
on the weak foundation Rah & Ketu are causing havoc.....separation starts when they are in transit throuhg the 8-2 axis of conjugal bliss/ home happiness and divorce completed when they run throuhg the 1-7 houses.

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Dear Shilpa Ji,

Thank you very much for the analysis.
shilpa wrote:
paro.xiss wrote: What are divorce agents, which caused separation?
Few points:-
1)LL Mars is in 6th House, 7L Ve is deb, so is 2L,5L Jupiter. Rahu-Ketu are not doing well either being in Sagittarius & Gemini, respectively.3L,4L Sa is in 8H. LL & 7L are Shadashtaka.
2)Navamsa has 7L in 6H with Su-Mars.
btw, I just now noticed that the points I mention above are actually for the Lucknow native in above post.
Sorry for the oversight. So removing that part from the post.

Thanks & Regards.
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Dear Shilpaji,

Could you help me understand my marriage longevity? DOB 22/04/1976, Ahmadabad Gujarat. Seems like my bhava spashta chart has shani-mangal combination in 8th house. Will I encounter separation?
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ssid wrote:Dear Shilpaji,

Could you help me understand my marriage longevity? DOB 22/04/1976, Ahmadabad Gujarat. Seems like my bhava spashta chart has shani-mangal combination in 8th house. Will I encounter separation?

dear ssid,
are you married?
and facing any extreme problems in the married life?

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Dear Shilpaji, yes, I am married and have had a few upheavals.
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ssid wrote:Dear Shilpaji, yes, I am married and have had a few upheavals.

what is your time of birth
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oops. Forgot that! It is 11.07 p.m.
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ssid wrote:Dear Shilpaji, yes, I am married and have had a few upheavals.

dear ssid,

--Mars sitting in the house of Me in the 7th is innimical and Saturn in the house of Moon in the 8th is also innimical....infact in a 2-8 exchange Yoga between shani-Moon spolis both houses

--7th Lord Me is conjunct with Ketu and the 7th house is under the aspect of Rahu that is placed in the Nk of Rahu.

--the marriage karak is exalted thouhg

--navamsa lagna is conjunct with somehwat innimical Mars aspecting the 7th house

--the marriage is marred by bad temper and andger from both sides that overrides the physical bliss.
Probably low on physical fructification.

Was it a love marriage ?

--the period from Sep 2012 to Aug 2013 will stretch the marriage to the limit with stresses and break-up possibilities.

if you want to dilute the stresses you must start praying to Lord Hanuman daily, offer mustrad oil and sindoor( vermillon tilak) on his idol daily and fast on Tuesdays...and conciously avoid conflicts in that period.

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Thanks for such a detailed response Shilpaji. It was a love marriage, and we have been trying to work it out.

One quick question : As I look at my chart, I see (as you said) Saturn and moon are in parivarthana, but they are also casting drishti on their own houses. Does this mean anything? And I am going to be starting Saturn mahadasha in a few years. (Actually, I thought that might be the most trying period for relationships, thanks for the advise about Sept 2012).

Saturn is also Vargottam for me (in Navamsha chart) and in the D9 it is placed with an exalted Jupiter in Cancer. Will the Saturn mahadasha be horrible for me re: relationship too?
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ssid wrote:Thanks for such a detailed response Shilpaji. It was a love marriage, and we have been trying to work it out.

thanks for the confirmation, the drishti of strong Rahu suggested that as a strong possibility

One quick question : As I look at my chart, I see (as you said) Saturn and moon are in parivarthana, but they are also casting drishti on their own houses. Does this mean anything? And I am going to be starting Saturn mahadasha in a few years. (Actually, I thought that might be the most trying period for relationships, thanks for the advise about Sept 2012).

the mutual aspect of shani-moon magnifies the negativity of their parivartana. Cause strong mental dilemmsa/ stresses/ worries/ depressions type syndromes.

Saturn is also Vargottam for me (in Navamsha chart) and in the D9 it is placed with an exalted Jupiter in Cancer. Will the Saturn mahadasha be horrible for me re: relationship too?


shani MD will be challenging.....especially the shani-shani period whihc will be a Sade sati and the last few months of shani-shani where transitting shani enters the house of natal moon
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Wow! Can I do anything to help the Shani mahadasha along? (Are the challenges for my marriage or overall?)
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ssid wrote:Wow! Can I do anything to help the Shani mahadasha along? (Are the challenges for my marriage or overall?)

the marriage part will be decided in the Mars anatara.

the shani MD coems at a time along with shani sade sati when thankfully you will be in yuor 40s......shani hurts less those with high maturity.

you have to plan and surrender to spirituality, social service, religion prayers ( especially to shani dev) consciously and actively........keep your head, expectations, desires low, conflucts nil and the sail will be less difficult.
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Shilpa ji want to ask few questions regarding this horoscope

Male 19 May 1988
time 12.30 PM
place- shimoga

i see 7th house has Mars and rahu and aspected by Saturn
venus in Gemini.. and aspected by rahu
does his chart indicate love marriage ??
and also second marriage indicated??
how gud is it for Marriage life??
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rahulguru wrote:Shilpa ji want to ask few questions regarding this horoscope

Male 19 May 1988
time 12.30 PM
place- shimoga

i see 7th house has Mars and rahu and aspected by Saturn
venus in Gemini.. and aspected by rahu
does his chart indicate love marriage ??
and also second marriage indicated??
how gud is it for Marriage life??
--this is not a great chart for a trouble free marriage.

--rasi is on the 1-7 axis of Ket-Rahu making it difficult for relationshisp to last and then after marriage with a innimical Mars in the 7th house conjunct with malefic Rahu make is difficult for sustenance of marraige. drishtiof shani is also innimical.

--navamsa is on the 1-7 axis of Ra-Ket again not good.......and with Mars in the 7th althouhg positive because it is swakshetra.

--marriage will occur in the shani MD and will be severely tested during the Ket, Mars and Rahu sub-periods.

--a difficult chart for the sustenance of marriage.

--a second relationhsip is a strong possibility but it less likely to fructify into marriage....because 2nd Lord in Rasi althouhg well placed in friendly Venus and conjunct with friendly sun.......is under the drishti of malefic Mars.

2nd Lord in navamsa is also Me exaletd byut shanidev in the 2nd house will not easily allow something against social norms like a second relationship to covert into marriage to occur easily.

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THanx shilpa ji even i thought it's difficult chart for marriage
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Hello Shilpa,
As you have said that Ra-Ke on 1-7 axis is not good for Relationship especially marriage.
Is that hold for all case?

What about this? It has 1-7 Ra-Ke.
23 n0v 1989
11:25am
Jamnagar India

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er.computer wrote:Hello Shilpa,
As you have said that Ra-Ke on 1-7 axis is not good for Relationship especially marriage.
Is that hold for all case?

What about this? It has 1-7 Ra-Ke.
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Thanks and Regards.

I have explained the mitigating factors when nodes are on 1-7 axis in the thread below:

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... =1&t=12279

Ket-Rahu followed by Ra-Ket on the 1-7 axis are inauspicious for marriage unless mitigated by following factors

Mitigating factors would be:

a)the favourable Nakshtra placements of Rahu and Ket
b)The aspect of strong benefics on the 1-7 axis
c)the strength of Venus
d(strength of 7th lord and 7th house

--and as many of the above are satisfied.....would offset the negativity that the 1-7 axis puts on marriage.
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Dear astrologers,
Date of birth : 25 October 1968
Time Of birth : 4.45 AM
Place of Birth : Belgaum Karnataka India
This lady is married & have a lover. 1 son from husband & 1 son younger from lover.Husband & lover respect each other a lot.They have never met face to face.Lover is having relation since 15 years.Husband loves lover's son more than his own son.Till today no any problem.The lady is strong devotee of Lord Shiva.Even husband's son respect a lot to lover.
How it has happened I am surprised.Please analyze.
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astrohajare wrote:Dear astrologers,
Date of birth : 25 October 1968
Time Of birth : 4.45 AM
Place of Birth : Belgaum Karnataka India
This lady is married & have a lover. 1 son from husband & 1 son younger from lover.Husband & lover respect each other a lot.They have never met face to face.Lover is having relation since 15 years.Husband loves lover's son more than his own son.Till today no any problem.The lady is strong devotee of Lord Shiva.Even husband's son respect a lot to lover.
How it has happened I am surprised.Please analyze.
Look my friend I find your report on the lady's intimately personal life incredible.

It can be true only if you are the lady....else it appears a made up story.
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shilpa wrote: --Rasi chart is now on the 1-7 axis of Ra-Ket and they are in dramatically opposite Ket-Rahu's Nakshatra respectively.....bad placeemnt for both Ra-Ket.

Shilpaji:

- I have seen in many charts when Ra is in Ke's NK and/or Ketu is in Ra's NK, where the native is facing some or the other problems caused by these grahas. Shouldn't it alleviate the problem instead?

- Couple of '79-'80 born, have NK parivartan for Ra and Ke, where Ke is in Ra's NK and Ra is in Ketu's NK. So both the grahas should get activated during the dasha/bhukti of the other. As this involves Ra/Ke, it should complete Ra/Ke and thus it should not harm the native in any way.

Yet I have found that when Ra is in Ke's NK or Ke in Ra's NK, it creates havoc in the chart.

Please could you share your thoughts on the same.
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