Divorce, remarriage and extramarital affairs

[paro.xiss]

Girl’s birth details:
DOB : 10-07-1983
Time : 04:29 am
Place: Delhi,India

Boy, Thats some Horoscope indeed!!!
Su, Mo, Ma, Me, Rahu all in Lagna & aspected by Exalted Sa[Sa also aspects 7H], Girl seems to have Kal Sarp Yoga though Lagna just outside. Su-Me in PW & Me Totally combust.

Btw I never heard a thing called 36 Guna Matching, I think 30.5 or 33 is max, not sure.

kindly tell me in which universe was this match recommended ?

Sir, can you please throw more light why this was not recommended match & what made u jump up in surprise??

Thanks & Regards.

[astroboy]

Well, it's simple Paro, Same Rashi same Nakshatra specially Ardra is not recommended. More over look at the girl's horoscope ..... it's a mess. The 7th is in the 6th house, is in a Papakartari yoga, is Retrograde, is in the 8th lords Nakshatra and the 7th house is aspected by the 8th lord. More over its a perfect Kala Sarpa yoga. The fact that it is in the 1/7 axis is enough to give you a headache.

[anuradha]

Boy, Thats some Horoscope indeed!!!
Su, Mo, Ma, Me, Rahu all in Lagna & aspected by Exalted Sa[Sa also aspects 7H], Girl seems to have Kal Sarp Yoga though Lagna just outside. Su-Me in PW & Me Totally combust.

Rahu is in the NK of Mars and Mars is in the Nk of Rahu. 7L is in 6H. 7H has Ketu aspected by all the malefics, Saturn[8L], Mars[6L] and Sun[3L]. In Navmansha 7L in 6H aspected by Saturn and Mars. In rashi chart Moon and Mercury are very weak being poor in Paksha Balam and completely com bust respectively . Dasha of Saturn is on. regards

[explorings]

Girl’s birth details:
DOB : 10-07-1983
Time : 04:29 am
Place: Delhi,India

Rgds,
Gauri

First marriage was always a challenge for this kundali. In general marital problems are foreseen. The girl has passed through the worst. Boy's chart indicates stressful period till Aug. Laying low till Aug in matters related to marital happiness will be best. Things should slowly start improving after Aug. However, in general the first marriage is emotionally challenging and both D1 and D9 indicate the same problems in first marriage.

Second marriage should be better than the first one. Current dasha supports chances of second marriage (if reqd). If no pariharas were done prior to marriage for mangal dosha and kalathara dosha, it will be best for the girl to change her name and re-marry the boy again. This should lessen some malefic effect. In general, the girl should recite Hanuman Chalisa and MMM everyday. Additionally she should observe Poornima and Pradosham. Attending Satya Narayan Pooja and/or listening to SN katha every Poornima will be helpful. Furthermore, the couple should worship shiva parvati as often as possible.

[Humannature]

Hi shilpaji,

My cousin got married before 2 years.All 36 gunas got mached in the horoscope matchmaking and both are manglik.But there is no hormony in their marital life.
I would like to know despite of such a wonderful guna Milan why their marital life is not peaceful.
Will they head for divorce in near future???

Boy’s birth details:
DOB : 06-02-1982
Time : 00:45 am
Place: Lucknow,India

Girl’s birth details:
DOB : 10-07-1983
Time : 04:29 am
Place: Delhi,India

Rgds,
Gauri

Is it October 7th or July 10th?
With Oct 7th, I dont see any match with what others mentioned here..
I was only curious coz i wanted to see how a 36/36 gun matched chart looks like!!

[shiranffs]

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[paro.xiss]

Warm Greetings & Sadar Pranaam!!!
Sorry duplicate post, please refer below post.
Thanks & Regards.

[paro.xiss]

Dear sherly_lan,

could you please give details on divorce and remarriage for male.
born 19th june 1979, time 7.48 am (salem).

Yes, in 2008 March. They lived together for 18 days and filed a divorce after a year. The case is going on from 2009 June till now. Is there anything that can be done?

Is this verified information? I mean is all the data provided correct, as it doesn't make sense.
Can you please provide Details of spouse & date/time of marriage also?

Dear Astroboy Ji/Anuradha Ji/Shipa Ji,

How do you justify this? I find this very strange.
Positive Side: 7L Ju is exalted in Cancer[2H],free from Any Affliction & has high Shadbala.
Downside:Mangal Dosha, aspects 7H & Sa/Ra in 3H, Ma conjunct with Ve in 12H[Taurus] & aspected by Sa.
7H aspected by Ma, Ra, Su ,Me.

But none of it is reason enough for Divorce. Very Strange.
Can you please throw some light on it for us mere mortals?
Thanks & Regards.

[astroboy]

Ravi is a bigger marriage breaker than kuja and Shani combined. he is the number one {विच्छेदना - vicchedana - breaking up} karaka. He scores a incredible 9.74 in rupas and he aspects the 7th house. End of story.

Shukra is the karaka for marriage and maritial happiness. The native got married in the Dasha of Shukra, who promptly finished the marriage before his dasha could end. Shukra is in a extreme degree of Mrityu bhaga and is in the fateful trimsamsa degree.

[mahig41]

Dear astrologers,
Plz analyse my chart....is there any tedency for divorce,separation or extra marital affair in my case??.....will my marriage be a happy one??


dob-3rdsept,1988
tob-06:05am
patiala,punjab


Best regards.

[explorings]

Downside:Mangal Dosha, aspects 7H & Sa/Ra in 3H, Ma conjunct with Ve in 12H[Taurus] & aspected by Sa.
7H aspected by Ma, Ra, Su ,Me

But none of it is reason enough for Divorce. Very Strange.
Can you please throw some light on it for us mere mortals?
Thanks & Regards.

The bold is your answer. I couldn't agree more with AB, Sun when aspects the 7th house or aspects the 7L or is in conjunction/association/etc with the 7H or 7L is clear indication of an early separation from wife and an abrupt end to the marriage or to the partner. The girl's kundali may have had some strong yogas that she survived or maybe because the Sun was neutral here. Additionally, for male kundali, Venus is the karaka for marriage as well as for spouse. Venus, though in own sign, it is placed in the 12th house, the house of loss.

Additionally, separation took place in Venus-Ketu but the death to the marriage may have come in Sun MD. Ketu dasha period is the reason why the divorce is still pending, Ketu is a no-brainer and most of separation or divorces that occur during Ketu dasha are usually due to immature or impulsive action. Thus, they tend to linger around with no end or tail to it as if spouses are still together yet apart. Sun-Ketu may bring the final separation. Mars, which is placed in Sun's NK is conjunct with karaka or marriage and spouse and hence can bring marriage. Second marriage after mid-2013.

Steve Job's kundali is an excellent example to show how Sun can be detrimental for marital happiness.

Here is another example, where malefic Sun (even though it was LL) was primary culprit for an early separation or ending the marriage.

Male
March 13, 1978
@ 17:30
Campina Grande, Brazil (7°13′ S and 35°52′ W)

Astroboy, would really appreciate if you could provide your views on this one. There are several Dhana yogas but the chart clearly lacks marital happiness.

[Humannature]

In several places, including LOVA, I read that Sun is not malefic in matters of marriages.
Then why is sun the biggest relationship breaker?

[explorings]

HN:

Sun is the no. 1 culprit for denial or delay or early separation (abandonment or death) in marriages especially if the chart in general shows problems in marital happiness. If you could you provide links where you read the same, it would help. Thanks.

To answer your (Why?) Check:
Bhrigu Sutram Ch. 44 Shloka 8
BPHS Ch. 80, shloka 17-21
Hora Sara, Ch. 25, Shloka 28-29
and Das/Behari

Few examples apart from Steve Jobs: Hugh Hefner (Playboy founder), Lisa Presley, Dennis Hooper, etc.

Barack Obama also has Surya in 7th. Study his chart to see why there are no problems in his marriage but he constantly faces problems with business associates as well as had issues with his father and authority.

[astroboy]

Good day explorings,

This is a brilliant example of how planetary war and Mrityu bhaga in the 8th house can bring about the destruction of marriage. Not many people know it, but the 8th house stands for ""breaking of relationships and partnerships". For the girl, the 8th house stands for the "manggalya" or the "Manggala sutra".

One meaning of the word "Manggalya" in sanskrit stands for "conferring happiness". Another meaning of the word "Manggala" stands for "all things auspicious". Just like the 2nd house is the house of immediate support for a child, the 8th, being the 2nd from the 8th house, and also a reflection of the 2nd house, shows immediate support to the partner after marriage.

Any distruptions to the 8th house, and it will decide what kind of support the wife gets from the husband. couple this signification with the fact that the 8th house has the propensity to break relationships and partnerships, You now have the perfect recipe for an payment schedule towards a lawyer, a visit to the court house, a appearance in front of a judge, the chance that the "other" will take you to the cleaners and leave with just your jocks, and also a chance to see the "i could kill you with my bare hands if you were close enough you lying conniving lazy and filthy bast@rd" look from the bitter other half.

I dont know which is worse, seeing your spouse on a slab in a morgue or seeing your spouse in court.

to be continued

[Humannature]

HN:

Sun is the no. 1 culprit for denial or delay or early separation (abandonment or death) in marriages especially if the chart in general shows problems in marital happiness. If you could you provide links where you read the same, it would help. Thanks.

To answer your (Why?) Check:
Bhrigu Sutram Ch. 44 Shloka 8
BPHS Ch. 80, shloka 17-21
Hora Sara, Ch. 25, Shloka 28-29
and Das/Behari

Eplorings,
Following is just an example of the many articles I read..
I read most of them on the fly, so dont have links to all of them, but do have the link for the one from LOVA

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 874#p27262

One more from another website:

http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/vedi ... -dosa.html

http://shrifreedom.org/jyotishArudhaUL.shtml

This one says "remember that sun and ketu are benefics relative to relationship"



I do not have BPHS, can you quote that shloka here, please...

[explorings]

HN:

Early abrupt separation from spouse (abandonment or death or divorce).

It is also a strong indicator of adapting sainthood/celibacy if other factors in chart show denial of marriage or strong service to humanity yogas.

I will analyze your links later but since nothing is perfect in this world, few exception exits or in astrology terms bhangas apply.

[Humannature]

I dont know which is worse, seeing your spouse on a slab in a morgue or seeing your spouse in court.

to be continued

AB,
Neither...
1st case: If the person is no more u will know he/she is in a better place..

2nd case: If you dragged him or her to court, then it means you hate your spouse so much that u r willing to put them thru the shame in society n torture them..so it does not really make any difference to u n so it does not really hurt you..

worst is the third case which need not really be spelled out...

[explorings]

AB: well-said, eagerly waiting for your "cont" part.

[astroboy]

MB - PW.jpg

Firstly, Shani is debilitated in the Navamsha. Thus the 7th house is rendered weak. Now focus on the 8th house. The 8th house lord is a Parivarthana Yoga with the 11th lord which is the only saving grace. This is probably why the spouse did not actually meet her creator during the duration of the marriage. However, Ketu in the 8th is a sly and capable destroyer. He managed to Break the marriage because he got access to the Maha dasha lord Rahu and all the Antar lords, by being conjunct or due to his placement. Note that Ketu is in a Near Mrityu Bhaga degree, and is in a war with Budha in the 8th house. Budha is the 11th lord. The 11th house is the highest house in the Kama Trikona {3/7/11}. The 11th house decides if the 7th house matters will gain or not. Here the 11th is as weak due to the war with Ketu. How could the marriage last ?



All other factors being equal - Ravi is in the 7th. A casual 15 minute stroll in end April - early May at 13.00 hours in the northern plains of India is enough to make one realise what the Sun is all about. When the Sun is in the 7th house, expect a spouse who carries the traits of the Sun. At the same time, please remember that the aspect of the sun from the 7th is on the lagna. The sun is the King of the zodiac. when they get in bed at the end of the day you have two equally strong-willed mules who think that they are the only ones in the world who are right, and the sun shines from their respective @#$%. What kind of marital happiness can you expect out of a combination like this?

Just like the King, who needs a trumpet to be blown constantly in praise of him, both partners need to be in the spotlight, getting attention consistently. they are so drowned in their own ego that they fail to realise how egoistic they really are. This constant ""my boat is bigger than yours"" battle eventually sinks the marriage. A classic case is Adolf Hitler. he married his wife and shot her the next minute. He could have let her live, but his point was, if i am going to meet the big man upstairs, she better tag along. Typical of a man who has Ravi aspecting the lagna from the 7th.

Bhrigu Sutram says it best. in chapter 1 sloka 69 - 74, Sage Bhrigu states,

If the Sun is in the seventh house the marriage of the native will take place late (that is, long after the marriageable age). He will not respect the opposite sex. He will indulge in sexual relations with women other than his wife. He will have more than one wife. In his 25th year he will travel to a place far away from his native land. He will be witty and fond of non-vegetarian food. He will not have fair dealings with his wife. He will be of unstable mind.

BTW - that sloka is applicable only to men. The women in this forum can rest easy.

[explorings]

Before I provide you the reason, I would like to remind you that all slokas I mentioned earlier are more applicable from lagna (Ascendant) point of view. 7th house from moon lagna shows the emotional part, so each lagna theory will be applicable from the POV for that lagna. For example rasi or moon lagna shows the emotional aspect, similarly you can read for upapada and arudha. Although charts are analyze from all lagnas and all dashas (narayan, vimsottari, etc.), lagna chart and moon chart should give you an instantaneous overview of what's happening.

Eplorings,
Following is just an example of the many articles I read..
I read most of them on the fly, so dont have links to all of them, but do have the link for the one from LOVA

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 874#p27262
This analysis was primarily done from UL POV, additionally Shrikanthji also mentioned that check if there are further afflictions to Sun. About the chart in context, 7th house has Mars, Jupiter and Rahu and ascendant Aq Lagna has Moon with Ketu. Her 7th lord is placed in 10 house and thus there is a parivartana between two friendly planets Mars and Sun. 7L Sun receives aspect from his dire enemy Saturn and also from Ketu and Rahu, which are inimical in the chart. However Ju is vargottam and placed in friendly house and aspected by the 7L, Sun. The house is protected by benefic aspect of vargottam Ju. To summarize, delay in marriage is indicated, furthermore, Ra/Ke on 7/1 axis, problems in marital life is also seen. This chart belongs to a member of the on-going thread Club '79. Shrikantji has clearly explained how planets in 7th house work in the second para.

One more from another website:

http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/vedi ... -dosa.html
Here too, the theory is for having 3 planets in 3 different kendras from Maala and Sarpa yogas. It is no where mentioned that Sun is in 7th from lagna and/or in marital POV. For further clarifications, please read Maala and Sarpa yogas


http://shrifreedom.org/jyotishArudhaUL.shtml
This is again from UL, I am copying some statements here, which may be of help to you to understand analysis from UL:

"Numurologically, the the Sun is connected to the number 12, and the UL comes from the 12 th house, this is how the Sun is giving its blessings to the Upapada."

"When the Sun is in an enemies sign it will have less support to protect the Upapada, and when neecha it will not help at all but instead may hurt the UL as every neecha planet will."

The article also gives examples on how to analyze the chart from UL and if you want to learn astrology, you should try and understand those interpretations.



This one says "remember that sun and ketu are benefics relative to relationship"
once again, afflictions to planets can cause damage. Sun and ketu in general are separators even though they are considered dharmic planets... this is also one of the reasons why Ra/Ke on 1/7 axis or 2/8 axis have problems in marriage or getting kutumbh sukh


I do not have BPHS, can you quote that shloka here, please...

[Humannature]

okay thanks Explorings.

[explorings]

AB:

Really great analysis!!!!

Here were my few initial observ in this male chart, due to limited space I will not repeat to the points you have already mentioned but I agree to each and every word you wrote:

- Marriage is a challenge for leo lagna, as both Venus, karaka for marriage and 7L, Saturn are enemies of LL.

- Sun and Saturn are in PV... two dire enemies strengthening each other and their resp house. That they happen to be 1 and 7L in PV indicates Raj Yoga, mostly self-earned. Matters related to 7H is doomed due to strengthening two enemy planets both known to have separative characteristics. Saturn and Sun will delay marriage, that it is happening on 1/7 axis indicates strong marital discord. Ra/Ke on 2/8 axis further confirms marital discord.

- Venus karaka of marriage and spouse exalted in 8th house with Ketu and debilitated Mercury. Mercury receives neechbhanga and is in PV with 8th lord Ju. Possibility of gains through women and wife. If his wife would have stayed with him, separation would have surely taken place through abrupt death of spouse and the man would have inherited her finances. 8th house also shows court cases and hidden enemies. If the matters reach the court, he will drain the spouse financially. This guy would have sudden inheritance of fortunes thru women and/or through abrupt death of someone.

- Venus+Ketu indicates constant separation from his spouse and that it is placed in 8th house is good enuf to explain the causes of separation.

- D9 is no less. Su and Mars are again associated with 7th house.

- Sun's characteristics were clearly reflected and well-described by AB.

- The early separation happened between Ra-Ke and we all know what that means.

- 2nd marriage is indicated from house 2. 2L is Mercury... end of the story. (if the marriage takes place, it will be plausibly in Ra-ve dasha)

- 3rd marriage, is indicated from house 9. 9L Mars, is vargottam and inimically placed. It is placed in 7th house in D9 chart. 3rd spouse will be older and will have maternal characteristic however the marital life will be similar to first.


Such an individual should stay away from marital life. A disturbing factor in this chart is the cluster of Mer+Venus+Ketu follows in D1, D9, and other vargas. This was also seen in Baby B's chart. Ju also somehow gets associated with this trio either through aspect, PV, conjunction, etc. D60 chart shows several good karmas and the native is almost near to moksha but is held back. It also looks that the native is bearing a strong family curse.

Ju's benefical aspect on 7H and remedies helped to provide a marriage otherwise my first indication would have been marriage is denied. Ju, karaka for progeny is afflicted in D1, D7, and D9. Sun also shows lineage and is afflicted in D7 and is in paapkatari. D5 shows spiritual nature and ethics and clearly shows why the native is facing problems. Su and Sa are debilitated in D5 and Ju is trapped between natural malefics.

AB, really great analysis... always get to learn a lot from your readings

[astroboy]

explorings ji -

Thank you for your kind words explorings ji. very nice of you. You are well read too I must say, so it means a lot to me when a compliment comes from you.

Such an individual should stay away from marital life

10,001 percent correct. This is a classic ""gone case"" situation. If he jumps in for the 2nd marriage, he is doomed - unless - the woman's chart is exceptionally good and can tidy up this man's afflictions. But I doubt that happening.

Best regards,

[Shreya]

If the Sun is in the seventh house the marriage of the native will take place late (that is, long after the marriageable age). He will not respect the opposite sex. He will indulge in sexual relations with women other than his wife. He will have more than one wife. In his 25th year he will travel to a place far away from his native land. He will be witty and fond of non-vegetarian food. He will not have fair dealings with his wife. He will be of unstable mind.

Sounds exactly like my husband!!! He has sun (L12)and mercury in the 7th house and my sun is atmakarak, L7th residing in 9th, debilitated. And yes, I am going through my sun mahadasa!!

We're separated btw, though not legally yet...

[explorings]

Shreya:

He seems to be Virgo Lagna. Things will improve after Aug 2012 for natives with Virgo lagna.

You seem to be Aquarius Lagna. L7, Sun is placed inimically in enemy house. Check its status in D9. Guru denotes first husband so check the status and strength of Guru. Similarly, check the status and strength of Venus, karaka of marriage. 9th house transit of Saturn is good, check the strength of your LL, Saturn.