Club '79 - jinxed or a mere coincidence?

[karmatrix]

Dear all,

I am visiting the forum after, I believe, months now and of all the posts I was looking at, I have come across a few by people born in the year 1979 who seem to be quite sad with the way things have turned up in their lives. Interestingly, I can totally relate to these posts and even empathise with these OPs since even my birth year is 1979 and even I am dealing with similar crises.

The peculiar thing is I have been observing this phenomenon for some time now and with a lot of people born in '79 (including some Indian "celebs" like Bipasha Basu, Vidya Balan, Nargis Fakhri, Siddharth, Emraan Hashmi, etc for lack of time to "research"!), and the posts here have only encouraged me to put my observation to test.

Some common traits, that these people to seem have: Excellent education but stagnant careers, miserable personal lives - either loners or lonely!)

Planetary combinations: Especially, in charts of people born in the first 2 - 3 months of 1979, the Saturn (R) - Sun parivartana, Saturn (R) - Mars aspect, Saturn (R) - Rahu conjunction, Exalted but retrograde Jupiter.

Saturn (R) (read "karma"), it seems, is the key player here (rather that is what I am trying to infer which you can of course totally reject!!! I know NOTHING about Vedic astrology, but I try and read about it).

Also, have been wondering, is it true, when they say, Saturn Rahu conjunction indicates a curse? A whole lot of karma?

Curious, and equally concerned, I am. Can certain planetary combinations (irrespective of their placement) really affect an entire group of people born around the same time?

Hope to see some insightful responses to this from learned members of the forum.

Many thanks!

Regards,
Karmatrix

[astro123]

Also, Jupiter was exalted in the first half of 79 and moved to Leo in the 2nd half..Saturn was in enemy sign Leo for most of 79 but ends up in friendly Virgo as 79 draws to a close..Quite a few born in 79 may also have jup-rahu conjunction

[ami26]

Hi Karmatrix,

I was just about to reply to your post to Astha and this one caught my eyes. I also belong to this exclusive club 79 but I was born towards the end of 1979.

Some common traits, that these people to seem have: Excellent education but stagnant careers, miserable personal lives - either loners or lonely!)

I could not describe my current situation better than the above statement.

I have an action packed 1/7 axis too. Moon (6th lord) + Ketu in 1st house and Mars, Rahu and Jupiter in the 7th house. Marriage has not happened for me yet..things don't materialize and career also moves very slowly. Jupiter is in the 7th but I question how benefic it is for AQ lahna.
I noticed that you are also AQ lagna too. I think that life moves at a slower place for saturn owned lagnas. I could be wrong but I know some members on the forum have said this too.

[karmatrix]

Also, Jupiter was exalted in the first half of 79 and moved to Leo in the 2nd half..Saturn was in enemy sign Leo for most of 79 but ends up in friendly Virgo as 79 draws to a close..Quite a few born in 79 may also have jup-rahu conjunction

Dear astro123,

I suppose, you're a '79 person too. Was wondering, how're things at your end with regards to your personal and professional life? Saturn exiting Leo, am sure, is a big relief, although I doubt, if we can say the same for Jupiter - Rahu conjunction.

Regards,
Karmatrix

[karmatrix]

Hi Karmatrix,

Some common traits, that these people to seem have: Excellent education but stagnant careers, miserable personal lives - either loners or lonely!)

I could not describe my current situation better than the above statement.

Ami, how are you "coping" with the "issues" at hand? I had a devastating 2010, but post feb 2011, things have changed a bit. In fact, now I am a bit more relaxed and have resolved to take life easy. Feel much confident and positive, of late.

I have an action packed 1/7 axis too. Moon (6th lord) + Ketu in 1st house and Mars, Rahu and Jupiter in the 7th house. Marriage has not happened for me yet..things don't materialize and career also moves very slowly. Jupiter is in the 7th but I question how benefic it is for AQ lahna.

Jupiter's confused me too. Especially, since it is exalted but also retrograde and placed in the 6th house!

As far as, my 1- 7 is concerned, I am in for double trouble and big time. I have Sun, Mars, Ketu in the 1st (Ketu, they say is similar to Mars, and hence gives me a double MARS impact) while Saturn & Rahu in 7th (again, Rahu they say is similar to Shani, and hence double Saturn for me!). And, of course, then there's the intimidating Sun - Saturn parivartana! But having said that, I'll also highlight that my LL Saturn in 7th gains dikbala. They say, it is good. And I hope, it turns out to be true.

I noticed that you are also AQ lagna too. I think that life moves at a slower place for saturn owned lagnas. I could be wrong but I know some members on the forum have said this too.

Yes, my lagna's Aquarius too. And I certainly agree with your observation completely - we indeed are the perennially slow (but certainly steady) turtles, meant to win at the end of it all .

I always had a lot to deal with, before I could achieve even the smallest thing in life. But then eventually when I did, I received nothing but the best. Of course, the trials were killing and seemed never ending, but then when I looked at what I was blessed with in life, it all looked too trivial, the satisfaction was even bigger, you see, the kind of pride one feels at avenging every wrong doing.

A very close friend has Aquarius lagna too. A reason, we can relate to each other so well. Has almost the same story, a very bright person who's eventually become terribly frustrated with things in life and almost feels like a loser. He got married at almost 35 and under great pressure. I am told, Aquarians usually end up marrying the second best available and not the object of their affection and desire!

He believed, marriage will somehow make things better for him (at least, socially) but nothing really changed and he continues to be in a miserable state.

I think, the difficult phases in the lives of natives with Aquarius lagna are relatively longer and recurring, as compared to natives of other lagnas. But having said that, I also believe, it's all about learning our lessons right and sincerely before we're ready to deal with bigger and greater responsibilities in life.

Anyway. Let's endure the worst and hope for the best. Glad to have found you on the forum.

Regards,
Karmatrix

[radheykrishna]

Hi All,


Very interesting topic and a right observation experienced by many people. Even I have come across charts of people born between 1978-1980 who are facing probs in one sphere or other of life.

Below are the details of two such females:

1. DOB: 19-Aug-1979
TOB: 7:20 AM
POB: Chandigarh

Details: Has a Masters degree but could not find a relevant job of that field...not so successful career wise. Facing difficulty in finding a match for marriage...Unmarried.


2. DOB: 3-Jan-1980
TOB: 3:05 AM
POB: Mumbai

Details: Masters degree, highly successful careerwise but facing problems in finding a suitable match...Unmaried.

Regards,

[ami26]

Hi Karmatrix,

Ami, how are you "coping" with the "issues" at hand? I had a devastating 2010, but post feb 2011, things have changed a bit. In fact, now I am a bit more relaxed and have resolved to take life easy. Feel much confident and positive, of late.

Its been difficult. I have accepted my career path a lot better than my personal life. Career is stagnant due to some reasons but I think eventually in a few years, I hope to be where I should/need to be. Personal life has been trying..had a heartbreak and just was not able to move on. Astham shani started right after in 2009 (I started feeling the effects months before), so was extremely low and depressed during the period. It was not always bad but off/on. Looking back now I think 2010 was better than 2011. A couple of months prior to Saturn's transit in Libra in Nov 2011, I started feeling confident and positive but unfortunately mind Nov. onwards again back to feeling low. But I think 2012 will be better..atleast I hope so.

I always had a lot to deal with, before I could achieve even the smallest thing in life. But then eventually when I did, I received nothing but the best. Of course, the trials were killing and seemed never ending, but then when I looked at what I was blessed with in life, it all looked too trivial, the satisfaction was even bigger, you see, the kind of pride one feels at avenging every wrong doing.

I too have always had to work for everything much harder than anyone else I can compare too but I have accepted it now. True, eventually I probably got what I wanted after considerable delays/hurdles (not sure if can say that about personal life..). Strange that I never really realized it until the astham shani/saturn period came. I guess I was just more positive/confident about life before and didnt even think that hurdles/obstacles were such. I had a zest for life and I want it back!!

I am told, Aquarians usually end up marrying the second best available and not the object of their affection and desire!

Really? Curios to know more about this? Sad but could be true..

I think, the difficult phases in the lives of natives with Aquarius lagna are relatively longer and recurring, as compared to natives of other lagnas.

Would love to hear from other learned members if such is the case.

Regards,
Ami26

[karmatrix]

The horoscope are not as bad as you make it. Horoscope is only a indicator. Please get up and so something sensible rather than blame the horoscope.

Dear Sir,

It seems to me you have completely missed the point, here. No one's blaming the horoscope or an individual here, we're only trying to relate the two, if by any chance, there's any possible relation!!! I think, I have made it very clear, we're all only trying to study a certain pattern we have observed. Only trying to get a validation to our "understanding" of vedic astrology .

In fact, the very nature of the questions I have listed were precisely an effort to understand, if what I am trying to decipher and infer is correct or not.

Also, it were the posts I read on the forum that made me sent a PM to a couple of new members. In fact, the moment I realised, that there were other members too, who had similar birthtimes and similar life situations, and who might benefit from the discussion here, that I started this particular thread!

Honestly, I feel, your comment "Please get up and so something sensible rather than blame the horoscope." was totally unwarranted, unnecessary, and also offensive! A lot of people here are sensible people trying to survive a very unfortunate phase in their life. Had they been insensible, they would have perhaps never cared. The good thing that everyone here needs to understand is a lot of people on this forum, who're miserable are stilling willing to fight back, are still willing to survive than surrender!

1. You have talked about debilitated 5L & 8L Mercury's mahadasha.
You need to consider Parivartana of chandra and guru as budha is with chandra. Also budha gets aspect of benefic guru. Infact if you take shadbala or asktakavarga bala for Budha in D1 Chart, its second most powerful planet.

Sir, I cannot concoct a story about my life to fit the horoscope I have! I shared with you, what I observed and experienced in my life. To elaborate more on why I had to emphasize on my 5L & 8L MD, because it is in my 8L MD that I suffered from a serious illness, had a surgery and the worst, I had to even witness the death of my father. Very seriously, I tried, but honestly I could not think of anything sensible which I could have done, to avert these disasters in my life!

2. Interestingly, all the natural malefics, in my chart (Sun, Mars & Ketu in Lagna and Retro Saturn & Rahu in the 7th house!) are on the 1 - 7 axis!

In my experience about 17% people have this. draw your own conclusion.

That's indeed a piece of information for me, and I very sincerely thank you for sharing it with us.

And yes, will take me a lot of time, but I'll certainly try to draw my conclusion. In fact, my very purpose of trying to study vedic astrology is to find answers to some unfathomable events in my life. Perhaps, to understand my karma. Perhaps, to ACCEPT the responsibility of my life, of every event in my life, rather than giving up on it or blaming things on an individual or the world, at large.

3. My query is particular to the Saturn (LL) & Sun (7L) parivartana in my chart.
Have you heard of graha yudha and combustion?

Most certainly, Sir!

Finally, thank you very much for raising some very good questions, definitely leads me towards finding my answers. Thank you again, for the precious time you have spent in looking into my post.

Sincere Regards,
Karmatrix

[karmatrix]

Its been difficult. I have accepted my career path a lot better than my personal life. Career is stagnant due to some reasons but I think eventually in a few years, I hope to be where I should/need to be. Personal life has been trying..had a heartbreak and just was not able to move on. Astham shani started right after in 2009 (I started feeling the effects months before), so was extremely low and depressed during the period. It was not always bad but off/on. Looking back now I think 2010 was better than 2011. A couple of months prior to Saturn's transit in Libra in Nov 2011, I started feeling confident and positive but unfortunately mind Nov. onwards again back to feeling low. But I think 2012 will be better..atleast I hope so.

Oh I can completely relate to this! The heart break and the inability to move on... I know, I know, I know it completely.

Yes, my work certainly satisfies me to an extent. I have studied Cinema and I enjoy my work, completely. Of course, cracking a good deal / project is never too easy, but at the end of it, my work (which lets me create) definitely helps me heal.

I too have always had to work for everything much harder than anyone else I can compare too but I have accepted it now. True, eventually I probably got what I wanted after considerable delays/hurdles (not sure if can say that about personal life..). Strange that I never really realized it until the astham shani/saturn period came. I guess I was just more positive/confident about life before and didnt even think that hurdles/obstacles were such. I had a zest for life and I want it back!!

I agree, totally. A couple of years back, even in the worst of situations, I could keep myself afloat, and all by myself.

I think, life's taught us a lot, and I believe, if we have survived it all and if we have managed to come this far, then I believe, we'll survive this as well!

I think, this is one of those "learn another important lesson" phase of our lives, perhaps necessary to equip us for something even bigger and better.

Really? Curios to know more about this? Sad but could be true..

Yes, and it definitely seems so. Like you said, you suffered a heart break and are not able to move on, I experienced something very similar too. And irrespective of what all happened eventually, I know, in a matter of fact way, that it's not going to be the same again! Things have changed, I have changed!

Anyway. Will try and send you the post as and when I am able to locate it in my folder.

I think, the difficult phases in the lives of natives with Aquarius lagna are relatively longer and recurring, as compared to natives of other lagnas.

The above sentence is more of a logical inference based totally on the characteristics of our lagna lord (and also 12L) Saturn.

I feel, the phases are relatively longer, because, everything for us seems to be running in a typical Saturnine SLOW-MO!

And recurring, because they say Saturn keeps punishing a person till it makes him/her learn his/her lesson!

Regards,
Karmatrix

[karmatrix]

Hi All,


Very interesting topic and a right observation experienced by many people. Even I have come across charts of people born between 1978-1980 who are facing probs in one sphere or other of life.

Below are the details of two such females:

1. DOB: 19-Aug-1979
TOB: 7:20 AM
POB: Chandigarh

Details: Has a Masters degree but could not find a relevant job of that field...not so successful career wise. Facing difficulty in finding a match for marriage...Unmarried.


2. DOB: 3-Jan-1980
TOB: 3:05 AM
POB: Mumbai

Details: Masters degree, highly successful careerwise but facing problems in finding a suitable match...Unmaried.

Regards,

Oh I just missed this post completely. Sincere apologies.

Also, thank you for posting in the details.

I sincerely hope, some senior members are able to help us understand this.

Regards,
Karmatrix

[astro123]

Also, Jupiter was exalted in the first half of 79 and moved to Leo in the 2nd half..Saturn was in enemy sign Leo for most of 79 but ends up in friendly Virgo as 79 draws to a close..Quite a few born in 79 may also have jup-rahu conjunction

Dear astro123,

I suppose, you're a '79 person too. Was wondering, how're things at your end with regards to your personal and professional life? Saturn exiting Leo, am sure, is a big relief, although I doubt, if we can say the same for Jupiter - Rahu conjunction.

Regards,
Karmatrix

@ karmatrix

Yep,u hit the nail on the head..i was born at the fag end of '79..I have no professional life in the sense that my career has hit the rocks and has been a shambles since mid 2006...was unemployed btwn end 2009-mid 2011 and btwn mid 2006 -early 2008..keep getting and doing short term jobs totally unrelated to my filed of interest/study..This despite holding a Master's degree..Not married thanks to a non - existent career.. Have had 2 long periods of unemployment as stated above...life was good until 2006 though since i was running a benefic dasha ..My 7th house is empty but 8th has the dreaded jupiter-rahu combo ..LL Saturn is in Virgo

How abt u ?What dasha are u running ?

[ami26]

Hi Karmatrix.

Oh I can completely relate to this! The heart break and the inability to move on... I know, I know, I know it completely.

What wouldn't I do to erase that from my memory..but of course not lose sight of the lessons I have had to learn.

I think, life's taught us a lot, and I believe, if we have survived it all and if we have managed to come this far, then I believe, we'll survive this as well!
I think, this is one of those "learn another important lesson" phase of our lives, perhaps necessary to equip us for something even bigger and better.

I hope so; I try to be positive too. I also believe we are exhausting our negative karma..well, I know for sure I definitely must have some

Anyway. Will try and send you the post as and when I am able to locate it in my folder.

Yes, please do.

I feel, the phases are relatively longer, because, everything for us seems to be running in a typical Saturnine SLOW-MO!
And recurring, because they say Saturn keeps punishing a person till it makes him/her learn his/her lesson!

So true. Everything is so SLOW! Saturn of course has a big footprint in my life..lagna and rashi both are Aquarius and infact navamsa lagna too. Unfortunately, its placed in dusthanas in both D-1 and D-9.

Let's hope things change for the best..slowly but steadily!
Regards,
Ami26

[Jyotish]

Karmatarix
For a change try to study charts of twins then you will know astrology better. Every lagna has its own charcateristics. You can not blame planetary combinations of a particular year. Regarding celebrities, you are never sure of authencity, instead try charts posted in the forum which are more accurate.
-Jyotish

[karmatrix]

@ karmatrix

Yep,u hit the nail on the head..i was born at the fag end of '79..I have no professional life in the sense that my career has hit the rocks and has been a shambles since mid 2006...was unemployed btwn end 2009-mid 2011 and btwn mid 2006 -early 2008..keep getting and doing short term jobs totally unrelated to my filed of interest/study..This despite holding a Master's degree..Not married thanks to a non - existent career.. Have had 2 long periods of unemployment as stated above...life was good until 2006 though since i was running a benefic dasha ..My 7th house is empty but 8th has the dreaded jupiter-rahu combo ..LL Saturn is in Virgo

How abt u ?What dasha are u running ?

I am in a profession, where we work on one project at a time. If you get one good project than it's relatively easy to survive without "WORKING" for the next couple of years. And I had a very good 2010, work wise, but 2011 was bad. Owing to my bad health, I had to take a break.

But I'll still say, opportunities do come my way.

Also for me, things are the other way around. It's my personal life, that usually ends up disturbing my professional commitments. Sad state of affairs, which I have now resolved to change and have even changed to an extent.

As for my MD, I am running a (deblitated 5L & 8L) Mercury Mahadasha, now in its last leg - Saturn AD. It ends Mid 2013. Next is Ketu.

[karmatrix]

What wouldn't I do to erase that from my memory..but of course not lose sight of the lessons I have had to learn.

Aah... reminds me of "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind!" Have you seen the film?

I hope so; I try to be positive too. I also believe we are exhausting our negative karma..well, I know for sure I definitely must have some

Dissolving our karma is good. And am sure, you have heard, to climb high one needs to travel light .

So true. Everything is so SLOW! Saturn of course has a big footprint in my life..lagna and rashi both are Aquarius and infact navamsa lagna too. Unfortunately, its placed in dusthanas in both D-1 and D-9.

Let's hope things change for the best..slowly but steadily!
Regards,
Ami26

Ahem... that's Saturn, all along.

Dusthanas, as in 6th, 8th or 12th?

I know, two people with lagna lord in the 6th house. One's heading business and strategy in a global IT co. and the other one's working night shifts with a BPO. And irrespective, of their designations, the two of them are not too happy with their work environment and colleagues. Both of them are very sincere, but both of them feel, they're being taken advantage of.

...And I am sure, things WILL change for the best. I was miserable around this time, last year, but now I feel, way better and positive. Of course, I have had my moments of loneliness and grief. Also, I took my time to grieve. And that, I believe, is the best thing, I did. I really don't care, if the world thinks, I need to go out and socialise and project that "I am eternally happy!". Because, I think, if I am feeling miserable, then I also think, I have every right to feel and act accordingly. I certainly do not think I need to PLAY to the gallery!

The best thing is, don't let other people, their words, their acts, their lives, affect your life. And am sure you will be the happiest person alive on this planet.

So take care and be really very happy...

Best wishes,
Karmatrix

[karmatrix]

Karmatarix
For a change try to study charts of twins then you will know astrology better.

Sure, will definitely try that, if I am able to come across a pair.

Every lagna has its own charcateristics. You can not blame planetary combinations of a particular year.

Something similar to what I had told another member on the forum!

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 18&t=13413

"I just checked your chart and as I anticipated, our planetary combinations are quite similar (but of course, in different houses and hence will have different outcomes)".


The only reason, we have been doing this excercise is to check a certain "hypothesis"! You see, our way to check, make mistakes and learn.

And to be very honest, whether experts believe in things or not (that's upto them) but I certainly feel, a certain planetary combinations, irrespective of the lagna, have the power to play havoc in lives of people. For eg. for people born in '79, the Saturn - Sun parivaratana, I do not think, is an combination we can ignore!

You see, Saturn is my LL and Sun is my 7L (Kendra lords in parivartana!), but I am yet to hear / witness anything good about it!

Regarding celebrities, you are never sure of authencity, instead try charts posted in the forum which are more accurate.

In fact, that's the reason, why this thread was initiated! I have already come across at least 8 members born in the year 1979, who're dealing with similar crises in life.

Anyway. Thank you for your suggestions.

Regards,
Karmatrix

[astro123]

[I am in a profession, where we work on one project at a time. If you get one good project than it's relatively easy to survive without "WORKING" for the next couple of years. And I had a very good 2010, work wise, but 2011 was bad. Owing to my bad health, I had to take a break.

But I'll still say, opportunities do come my way.

Also for me, things are the other way around. It's my personal life, that usually ends up disturbing my professional commitments. Sad state of affairs, which I have now resolved to change and have even changed to an extent.

As for my MD, I am running a (deblitated 5L & 8L) Mercury Mahadasha, now in its last leg - Saturn AD. It ends Mid 2013. Next is Ketu.

@ karmatrix

Thanks on the input...So r u experiencing any effects of Dasa sandhi i.e effects of the next MD lord Ketu..Coincidentally I am running ketu MD since end 2006 and will move to a new dasha end 2013...Hoping ketu is well placed and strong in ur chart..Ketu has the been the cause of havoc in my career

[karmatrix]

Astro 123, I think, my dasa sandhi starts March onwards. I have read Dasa Sandhi's usually very confusing, since a lot changes, especially with attitude, surroundings, people around you and all. Let's see what comes my way, would be interesting to observe things.

As for my Ketu MD, I hope to see things change for good. In case, it doesn't, then at least, I am ready andwilling to give my best shot, no matter what. I think, my Mercury MD's taught me a lot of lessons and all for a reason. And if it has made me a stronger person, then now I think, I need to use my strength for the best possible reasons.

Well, my Ketu is in the lagna (Aquarius) with Mars and Sun. 12th from Moon. In Navamsa, it is in the 3rd house (Taurus) with my UL.

Honestly, I do not how is it going to be. But, I think, I have now come to terms with a lot of things in life and now I think, I am more assertive and I can handle negativity and negative people better now.

I believe, you will start your Venus MD now. Hopefully, Venus should be good.

Best wishes,
Karmatrix

[ami26]

Hi Karmatrix,

Aah... reminds me of "The Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind!" Have you seen the film?

No, I haven't but I read about it after you mentioned. I think I need to watch it!

Dusthanas, as in 6th, 8th or 12th?

in D-1, Saturn is in the 8th and in D-9 in the 12th in own house. Can't be all that bad since it is lagna lord but definitely not a great placement. And definitely Saturn has made me toil hard for everything in life!

...And I am sure, things WILL change for the best. I was miserable around this time, last year, but now I feel, way better and positive. Of course, I have had my moments of loneliness and grief. Also, I took my time to grieve. And that, I believe, is the best thing, I did. I really don't care, if the world thinks, I need to go out and socialise and project that "I am eternally happy!". Because, I think, if I am feeling miserable, then I also think, I have every right to feel and act accordingly. I certainly do not think I need to PLAY to the gallery!

You are so right here. I took my time to grieve too. I haven't socialized much in the last couple of years because I just didn't feel it. I needed to be alone and take time out for myself even though sitting at home sometimes was depressing. But now I am going to start socializing and spend time with friends because I feel like doing it!
I haven't had a great start to the year but I think I am finally putting my past behind me and moving on!

I am still waiting for you to send me the post....
Best,
Ami26

[vpn]

hey guys,

yeah, i too belong to the elite '79 club, born in february, so i have all the combinations that you've posted, karmatrix...i too am a master's degree holder and now saddled in my dad's show...."total" and "absolute" discontement with what i'm currently doing, includes domestic life as well...further, my saturn and rahu combination's in the fourth house, so you can surely figure out the rest. made desperate attempts to branch out of home, not happened....i led a very different life from what i'm currently leading, honestly!!!

my lagnesh is placed in the 8th house (6/2/79,13.24,rajkot) in ketu's nk....

i've often asked this generalised rule to all but been shot down saying that you can't make general statements this way..i too have had a lotta '79 pals with either health as their weak link or problems in married life....

[vpn]

just to sorta add to the abrupt end caused by a typing error, i'm also a "loner" or feel that no one understands me (another way of putting it)..my health's pretty fragile as well, another scenario i've noticed in a lotta 79 born people...did quite a few poojas' to propitiate the saturn-rahu combination, entirely in vain, though!

been married since 2004 and also faced the seventh year itch due to my own misdemeanour!!! as one superb ast's put it to me, i'm my biggest enemy, i concur! if any of you 79 born people also have the lagnesh in the 8th, trust me, you'll fall out of your own creations!

more later after hearing more from the "elite '79" batch...i could write loads and loads, but i'll leave it at this...

vpn

[swamykool]

Hi karmatrix,

Here is to answer your question. Firstly no blanket condition can be set for a given year. There are also many rather happy people born in 1979. But this particular year does have certain curious features.

For my explanation I have taken basically 4 planets, Sat, Jup and Rahu-ketu. These are the slow movers and give the longest and deepest impact on human life. There are also many other ramifications, but I'll not go into the details of those. Just Suffice to say - Sat is the karma karak, and Jupi is the Phala karak. These two run everything between themselves. And Rahu-Ketu are the karaks for illusion and disillusion respectively. That practically wraps up a life in a nutshell.

24/12/1978 21:15 Sa moves Retrograde (20:22:32 Leo)
26/03/1979 00:41 Ju moves Direct (05:26:22 Cancer)
09/05/1979 14:33 Sa moves Direct (13:30:31 Leo)
28/06/1979 07:29 Ju ingress Aslesha
29/08/1979 13:44 Ju ingress Leo
29/08/1979 13:44 Ju ingress Magha
04/10/1979 16:54 Sa ingress Uttaraphalguni
03/11/1979 19:47 Sa ingress Virgo
09/11/1979 10:50 Ju ingress Purvaphalguni
26/12/1979 15:06 Ju moves Retrograde (16:40:09 Leo)

30/12/1978 18:39 Ra ingress Purvaphalguni
27/05/1979 22:07 Ke ingress Satabhisha (1st half of the year Ketu was in Dhanishtha)
24/10/1979 18:51 Ra ingress Magha

There are countless points to be dealt in this transit. But the main points are :

1. Sat was in the Nk of Venus (PPh) till october '79. This is bad, Sat in the Nk of Venus, invariably gives love trouble and marriage trouble. Heartbreak and melancholy. How much trouble depends on the position of Venus and other planets in the chart.

2. Rahu in PPh (Ven). Trouble with a capital T. Rahu in the Nk of Ven creates an artist, a performer, a person of great talent in the arts. It invariably creates trouble with society at large. The person is not concurrent with the modes of good conduct in matters of love, marital loyalty or sexual chastity. Whether these tendencies will manifest or remain fanciful day dreams, depends on the condition of moon and venus.

In many regions of India, this connection of Venus Rahu is known as Nata yoga - or the combination for an actor/actress. When these texts were written, actors were considered nothing better then outright rogues and mountebanks, and actresses were equated with prostitutes. Other texts written during this time period corroborate this social viewpoint of astro texts.

Political correctness aside, those who have even a very basic idea about the film and performing arts industry, may be well inclined to agree with the ancient texts.

3. Sat Rahu together in the Nk of Ven. You can well imagine. Apart from that it creates what is known as Mlechchha yoga. Person has affinity for foreign ideas, people, religion and social practices. Again how much will depend upon the condition of Moon, Sun, 4th and 9th Hs and Lords. And very importantly of Jupi.

4. Jupi ingressed Leo in Aug '79. From Aug to end of the year Jupi was conjunct Rahu. This creates Guru-Chandal yoga. This yoga was viciously amplified in the months of Nov and Dec, when G-C yoga was formed with close conjunction in the Nk of Venus (PPh). This yoga is not so bad for men, but very harmful for women. Guru-Chandal yoga leads them to exactly that type of men who are totally unsuitable for them and would ultimately hurt or harm them seriously. Again there are many bhangas to this yoga.

(For men this part is played by Angarak Yoga - Mars+Rahu, so nothing to worry, God does not indulge in gender discrimination )

5. Add Sat to the mix. Sat Rahu combination in an agni rashi, is seriously bad news. Creates outright villains or people who do not accept any rules or regulations. For half the year Jupiter was within this combo. Though Jupi is extremely powerful in Leo, Simhastha Brihaspati, but still with Sat and Rahu Guru becomes undoubtedly afflicted and his power to do good diminishes to quite an extent.

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[swamykool]

Contd.....

Another finer point to add, though Simhastha Brihaspati is a very powerful combination, it is also an autocratic combo. Its a yoga for power rather than knowledge or piety. In Leo Guru stops behaving like a Rishi and behaves like a Raj Guru. A very high and powerful post in the court - the King's Guide. Guru becomes less compassionate and more ruthless and brooks no opposition. This is futher amplified if Sun is in Kumbha or Simha. Ascetics with Guru in Magha, can go to extremes of asceticism.

6. Ketu in Dhanishtha, till May. Not good at all. Kujavat Ketu, Ketu acts like Mars. And in the Nk of Mars, the effect is like double Mars. Very stubborn, vicious temper and renvengeful. This combo gives unquestionable musical talents. Music or dance. Or can create a brilliant mathematician or engineer if in a kendra from Mars or Mer. But if this combo is in the 4th, 7th or 8th H, native can forget happiness. Again Bhangas apply.

From May, Ketu was in Shatabhisha. This is a much better position. The person has great gifts of imagination and literary abilities. But is aloof and withdrawn. Again trouble in the above 4 Hs. And again bhangas apply.

Now these are the general results of the combo. However, if these combinations happen to be in the 4th, 5th, 7th, 8th or 9th from the Lg or Moon, it can make life difficult. With lots of highs and lots of lows, ecstasy and heartbreaks, turn by turn. If they happen in the Upachayas, it is much better. Gives serious worldly success, whatever the means. In the 10th, it is an excellent combo for a politician.

I don't know exactly what will be the effect of Guru Shani and Rahu, in Leo in the Nk of Ven (or for some time of Ketu - magha), in the 12th H from Lg or Moon, will be. Must be very very curious indeed. I'll be interested to know. One thing can certainly be said, it will take the native away from home, maybe to a foreign land. And maybe for higher study.

Caveat : The whole temper of the chart and life can be changed by a good and benevolent navamsha and vice versa. Like, if Guru is in the 4th Pada of Magha, Guru would be exalted in Cancer in nav, v v good. Or if Guru is in the 4th pada of Purvaphalguni, Guru would be in Sco in Nav, also a nice position for Guru.

If Shani is in the 3rd pada of PPh, he will be in Libra and exalted in the Nav, rather nice. So on....

Regards,
swamykool

[vidhyanine]

Dear SK,

Simply Beautiful explanation. Thorough and easy to understand.



Vids.

[swamykool]

Thanks V9

Another point to note - the 1979 borns would have invariably (in most cases at least) have had a pretty rough time in 2008-09, when Sat again transited Leo and went over their natal Sat. But those with Sat Rahu in the 10th H in Leo in the natal chart, might have had a sudden jump in career. Rahu is digbali in 10th H.

swamykool