Kumbha lagna, Yogakaraka Venus & Relationships

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For Kumbha lagna natives, Venus besides being a yoga karaka is a critical planet when it comes to a native’s relationships with both his parents and spouse.

Venus, being the 4L and 9L, becomes the functional karaka of both the mother and the father of the Kumbha lagna native.

Also, Venus is anyway considered the permanent karaka of wife in a male native and overall marriage for both the male / female native.

Seems like, a single placement (of Venus) can affect the most sensitive areas of a Kumbha native’s personal life.

In fact, relationships it seems is not the forte of Kumbha lagna natives, since even the natural karaka of mother Moon rules the 6th house, while the natural karaka of father, Sun (rules the 7th house, hence also the functional karaka of spouse), is a maraka and also a bitter enemy of lagna lord Saturn.

Barbara Pijan on her website states, Kumbha in many ways the single most difficult lagna for purpose of satisfaction in relationships, whether business partnership or marriage.

Would be interesting if Kumbha lagna natives on the forum can list their placement of Venus, Sun and Moon and their relationship with their parents and spouse.
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To start off with, I'll list my and a friend's (also Kumbha lagna) details.

My details:

My Venus is in 12th (Capricorn) -
Moon is in 2H (Pisces) conjunct deb. Mercury. Moon is also in exchange with exalted 2L & 11L Jupiter (R).
Sun is in exchange with LL Saturn (R) conjunct 3L & 10L Mars & Ketu, receives aspect from Saturn (R) and Rahu.

My Sun and Venus are both vargottam.

Relationship with Parents & Spouse:

Excellent terms with father. He's been the biggest influence in my life. But lost him early in May 2005. He was a prominent personality socially, a very noble man of high principles and I still feel, his good deeds are still illuminating our lives.

Love her a lot but sometimes it's a No love lost situation with mother. Occasional and sometimes extreme differences of opinion with her.

Not married, so no clue how it's going to be.

My Friend's details:

Venus is in 12th conjunct 5L & 8L Mercury, receives aspects from LL Saturn (R) in 6H (Cancer).
Sun is in Lagna.
Moon is in the 11H.
Rahu in the 9H, receives aspects from gandanta Jupiter.

His Moon is vargottam.

Relationship with Parents & Spouse:

Lost father when he was hardly 1 - 1.5 year old.

His mother remarried when he was perhaps 5. The stepfather raised him like a good father, provided good education, sent him abroad, etc but also controls his life and decisions. My friend values his stepfather immensely and has genuine affection for him.

As far as his mother is concerned, feels agitated at his mother's unreasonable demands but nevertheless loves her immensely and has compromised a lot on account of his mother.

Married relatively late at almost 35. It was arranged under pressure from immediate family.
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I know one friend
Saturnt in 4th
Ketu in 6th
Merc(R), Venus and Sun in 7th
Moon in 9th
Ju in 10th
Rahu, Mars (R) in 12th


Ok relationship with parents. Do not talk about them much. Father was bit of authority figuer. Lost mother last month (Oct 2012) to cancer
Relationship with wife is hot n cold. Last year was cought with Ex Mart Affr. After that trying to rebuild relationship with wife. Work in progress and looks satisfactory.

Before marraige he had many affairs...., Marriage was not very late. I guess around 28..

Hope above helps. I can get any details if required.
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jolli wrote:
Hope above helps. I can get any details if required.
Thanks a bunch, Jolli. This detail certainly helps.
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Ok, So what should i get in terms of details .....
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hi,

Mine is kumbha lagana - Joint Family till today

Father backbone and mentor - Learn from him a lot from him what life is all about - Did Learn from him how to survive and swim during difficulty... Till my age of 20 he his terror after 20 slowly he his friend and mentor. He the who supports me in all and build courage in me when my loose confidence.

Mother lovely mother - who cares me and take cares me till today. Lot of passing clouds fight between me and mother out of affection after 5 minutes i go to her or she comes to me - for her i am always the best. She fights with other for me.

Wife: Me Blessed to have a wife like her - who besides me most of the time... but me has to understand a lot as always...

Married at the age of 30 - blessed boy baby at my 31 and another boy at 35

Beauty is my father / myself / both my sons - Kumbha Lagna

From Lagna - Sani (V) in 4th / Kethu 5th / Moon 9th (Thula) / Mar - Mer - Venus 10th / Sun Jup Raghu 11th
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karmatrix ,

Mine is kumbha Lagna:

Yes I have also read that Kumbha Lagna is a difficult lagna but its a best lagna to have for spiritual advancement.
Aquarians are original in their thought process :D .
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Whts yr guess?:)
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You have a good horoscope. How is period from last august turning out? especially after Dec?
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Venus in 4th house
Moon in 1st house
Sun in 2nd house
Saturn in 9th house
Jupiter in 10th house
Mars and Mercury in 3rd house
Rahu/Ketu 5/11

Good relation with Mom,dad and wife. Mom went through kidney transplant in Aug 2012, my dad donated his kidney. Period from 2008 till Aug 2012 was painful for whole family because of mothers health. Things are improving now.....
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Kumba Lagna
Rahu in 5th
Venus in 6th (Parivarthana with 9H)
Sun in 7th
Mercury + Lagna lord Saturn in 8th
Moon, Jupier & Mars in 9H
Ketu in 11H

Birth details:
24 Aug 1982
Time: 6: 14 PM
Place: Rajapalaiyam (Rajapalayam, Tamilnadu, India)

Till date, have good relationship with Father & Mother.

From childhood, father is very soft and friendly... Mother is very strict since my schooling, right from college she gives much freedom. My mother, is very innocent, loves me a lot... but we sometimes get into intense fight(she is very fierce and me as well, in terms of using words in arguments) these days cuz of family problems, but it will be okay within a day or two.

Regarding personal relationship, i have one now... but not sure about the sustainability.

The relationship with relatives is bad, I have relationship but it seems no well wisher for me, or I prefer to stay away from them. My relationship with my elder brother is worse though.
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You are absolutely right about Kumbha lagna having difficulty in forging relationships. Also according to barbarapijan shatabhisha nak in kumbha is more prone to loneliness and depression.

If moon is not well placed it can add to the problems.

I am kumbha lagna but moon in 12th and sun debilitated. Although venus is in libra (mooltrikona) i notice that i tend to build relationships more from a materialistic perspective, or where there is give and take involved

Kumbha lagna are more scientific in their approach and take every thing/ every person objectively, so its easier to build a relationship based on trust, compatibility and mutual interest rather than simple becuase someone is an uncle or aunt or grand parent or nephew/niece.

my dob : 24th Oct 1974 Time 15:12 Thane maharashtra
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Not much interaction with father because he expired when I was 10 years old. Relationship with mother and wife lovable.

1st house Moon
2nd house Rahu
3rd House Saturn
5th House Me, Su, Mars
6th house venus
7th house Jupiter
8th House Ketu

My details below :

K Gopala Rao
DOB: 13th July , 1968 time : 9.30 PM
POB : Visakhapatnam , Andhra Pradesh , India
Kumbha Rasi , Kumbha Lagna.
Shatabhisha Nakshtra.

Regards...Gopal
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Hi

I am also a Kumbha Langna

Rahu, Mars in H1
Venus, Jupiter and Merc in H4
Sun in H5
Ketu in H7
Moon in H10
Saturn in H11

Relationships with father and mother is good but strained at the moment due to my career and brother.

Relationship with brother is good from long distance but strained when we stay together.

Mother is a bit materialistic and I am a bit free going.
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I am another kumbha lagna here. Infact, kumbha rasi, kumbha (masi) masam :)

Relationship with mother and father very good. More with father than mother during my teen days and nowadays it is very lovable with both of them and with my sis too.

Got married at 26, and relationship with my husband and InLaws is also good. Had a bit of hard time with FIL initially but it mostly was bcoz of situations and he is a good hearted person (though I dont live in a joint family with FIL currently).
MIL passed away before our wedding.

Houses:
1 : Sun, Moon, Mars, Venus
2 : -
3 : -
4 : -
5 : Ragu
6 : -
7 : -
8 : -
9 : Saturn
10 : Jupiter
11 : Ketu
12 : Mercury

I have a daughter. My only question that I would like to know is my relationships with my children. My husband has ketu in 9th so astrologers say we have a son. Namo Narayana.
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