The Shani-Rahu conjunction in transit

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[quote="milredr"]Hi galaxy

I couldnt help but reply.
1. You saturn is in the 8th house and debilitated. 8th is the mangalyasthana.
2. 7th house is Aspected by Mars who is not only the 8th lord but also in gandanta.
3. 7th lord Jupiter is in kendradipatya dosha.
4. Currently you are in the dasha of Rahu whose dispositor is saturn.

There are two mitigating factors which will activate during the dasa of rahu and the AD of shani. Rahu is in the nakshatra of Jupiter and saturn is in the nakshatra of shukra who is the 9th lord in the 11th house.

Can u give me a few more details if u dont mind. What is the divorce date? Do u have kids? B careful with ur money and dont get into speculation. 11th lord in the 12th house. Rahu aspects the 11th lord from the 6th. Saturn also aspects the 5th house.[/quote]


------- First of all thank you for replying. ( Sorry for the late reply I was busy at work and did not check this for a few days).
------- My divorce date is Mar 09 2009.
--------Yes, I have one son, 13 yrs old.
------- OK. Will be careful with money.
------- I can understand astrology but I dont know more than that. So any help that you can provide is great and I appreciate it. I also want to know that even when I work hard and I am quite smart, usually things don't materialize. For the effort I put in, I should be doing very well. But I have always found that things dont get done or are stalled.
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Will there be health issues to Taurus Lagna born as Shani-Rahu stays in 6th house during transit ?
milredr

@ dear aseem
from when did u start believing in the texts? When u said that exalted planets cast debilitated aspects and vice versa i came 2 the conclusion that u have transcended the sages and redifined the texts.

Regards

@ galaxy thanks for the info. Will revert to u in a bit.
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The Shani-Rahu conjunction in transit
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milredr » Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:59 am

@ dear aseem
from when did u start believing in the texts? When u said that exalted planets cast debilitated aspects and vice versa i came 2 the conclusion that u have transcended the sages and redifined the texts.
Dear Milredr

Thanks for responding back. No problem if you can't supply the texts. :)

Yes you are right that I transcended the sages and redefined the texts. But I was not getting good results. It was only I took up old classical texts like Parashar and Bhrigu that I am getting much better results.

I even now believe in the combustion of planets and this proved shilpa' was right. Thanks and bye.

deeps

About exalted planets casting debilitated aspects, it is true. It is the only way that explains why Lord Rama, who have exalted planets, suffered in His life. In fact, I have seen many astrologers giving correct predictions solely on the basis of this. But don't worry I won't be asking for classical texts to support from you.
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Deeps,

Milred is right on both the points--kendrapadhi dosha of Jupiter and gadanta placement of Mars--that she has made in respect to Galaxy's chart.
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by deeps » 180113

About exalted planets casting debilitated aspects, it is true. It is the only way that explains why Lord Rama, who have exalted planets, suffered in His life.
In fact, I have seen many astrologers giving correct predictions solely on the basis of this. But don't worry I won't be asking for classical texts to support from you.
Deeps, I personally feel that was due to the mutual aspect of two exalted planets. Jupiter-Mars, Sun-Saturn. Debilitated planet gives good results in 3H, 6H, 8H and 12H. Also debilitated planets give good result when comes out the degrees of debilitation[Hora Saar] . regards
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I agree with Anuradha here... two exalted planets in mutual aspect doesn't give good results, which is the reason why lord Rama had to suffer in his life.
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anuradha » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:45 am

Deeps, I personally feel that was due to the mutual aspect of two exalted planets. Jupiter-Mars, Sun-Saturn. Debilitated planet gives good results in 3H, 6H, 8H and 12H. Also debilitated planets give good result when comes out the degrees of debilitation[Hora Saar] . regards
Anuradha ji, you are feeling personally but not providing scientific explanation.
deeps

Yellow » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:36 am

Deeps,

Milred is right on both the points--kendrapadhi dosha of Jupiter and gadanta placement of Mars--that she has made in respect to Galaxy's chart.
Do you think that even if guru is in own sign, it will still confer kendradhipati dosh? Also do give honest feedback without any bias feelings.
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deeps wrote: by deeps » Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:23 am

Dear Milredr

Thanks for responding back. No problem if you can't supply the texts.

Yes you are right that I transcended the sages and redefined the texts. But I was not getting good results. It was only I took up old classical texts like Parashar and Bhrigu that I am getting much better results.
Dear Deeps,

Glad to hear you have gone back to the classics. Now with regard to Gandanta, Parashara has spoken about gandanta effects of planets in BPHS. Kindly go thru BPHS and figure it out yourself. There’s a separate chapter on gandanta of the Planets.

With regard to Kendradipatya dosha, it is the BPHS that states that a natural benefic owning an angle gives inauspicious results. In Galaxy’s case guru is a natural benefic who owns two kendras and he is in a Kendra. Infact KN Rao has assessed the charts using the concept of Kendradipatya dosha and made successful predictions based on the same.

Coming to Combustion pl open a separate thread and lets have a debate there as it is out of context in this thread.

If you need any further clarification on the first two points, pl feel free to write to me.

Regards
deeps

Remedies from Gandanta Birth

1. The Sage said. O Brahmin! Gandanta is of three kinds, namely of Tithi, Nakshatra and Lagna. Birth, travelling and performance of auspicious functions, like marriage etc., during Gandanta are likely to cause death of the person concerned.


I failed to mention tithi and lagna earlier.
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BPHS - The gandanta of planets
Abhukta Moola :
The Sage Parasara said. The ruling deity of Jyeshtha is Indra and the ruling deity of Mula is Rakshasa. As both the deities are inimical to each other, this Gandanta is considered, as the most evil.
Now in Galaxy's case Mars is in Moola nakshatra at 0.29. I can also give you the images once i reach home.

@ Galaxy, really sorry, this is getting into technical details. Got to get back to work now. I will surely write to you in the evening. Take care nd dont worry.
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No problem. This forum is meant for discussions. Plus I can learn a little from the experts.

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Deeps,

If the lord of two kendras is sitting in another kendra, then the effect of KPD will be reduced to a considerable extent, but technically it is still a KPD. But coming to the statement Milred has made about there being a separate chapter on Gadanta in BPHS, it is an incorrect one because I have read BPHS, too, and there is no separate chapter on gadanta there.

Coming to being biased, I am never that. I always support the person, who is saying the truth.
deeps wrote:Do you think that even if guru is in own sign, it will still confer kendradhipati dosh? Also do give honest feedback without any bias feelings.
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gandanta is chapter 92 in bphs.

secondly kendradhipatya dosha context is that a benefic owning a kendra looses beneficence [chapter 34]. This by itself does not mean it starts acting as a malefic. Its gets reduction in ability to give effects naturally. Usually the native will not be content with that ownership of bhava is consequence. but then conjunctions, aspects, ashtakvarga, navamsa all together will show full picture..

http://dir.groups.[No Personal Contact Details on Public Forum].com/group/ancie ... sage/22095

http://varahamihira.[NO EXTERNAL LINKS PLEASE].in/2004/06 ... ets-i.html

these are gd links to understand.
Nitin21

Hi Shilpa - Sat+rahu brings scandals usuallyin area seated. in tula the natural 7th house we are seeing national scenario already... sat aspecting in this combo 9th means critical aspect on govt(sun).
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astroduffer wrote:gandanta is chapter 92 in bphs.
Thanks Astro-d for the info. Milred is right then. I had read the two volumes of BPHS long back, and today before writing the post, I only checked the chapters of the first volume as it was in my mind that the second volume has only the details about the different dashas and their effects and about curses.
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astroduffer wrote:gandanta is chapter 92 in bphs.

secondly kendradhipatya dosha context is that a benefic owning a kendra looses beneficence [chapter 34]. This by itself does not mean it starts acting as a malefic. Its gets reduction in ability to give effects naturally. Usually the native will not be content with that ownership of bhava is consequence. but then conjunctions, aspects, ashtakvarga, navamsa all together will show full picture..

http://dir.groups.[No Personal Contact Details on Public Forum].com/group/ancie ... sage/22095

http://varahamihira.[NO EXTERNAL LINKS PLEASE].in/2004/06 ... ets-i.html

these are gd links to understand.
AD Ji. Excellent. Appreciated

On Gandata and Nks....

Junction/Sandhi of any two signs or NK..Inauspiois

Any planet posited there or birth of any event is slated to be Weak and causes lots of problems.

When junction of signs and NK occurs simult.. it is worst.

These NKs are Me 1st padam &Ketu 1st padam whose junct coincides with junctions of Cn and Le,Sc and Sg and of Pi & Ar.

A native born in 1st padam of Ashwini,Magham/Moolam may or will cause loss to fathet/ mother, while those born in last padam of Revati,Aslesha &Jyeshta may cause loss of wealth, life of fathet resply.
There inauspiousness is more pronounced if they do not receivr any benefics influence.

Regards
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KET wrote:
astroduffer wrote:gandanta is chapter 92 in bphs.

secondly kendradhipatya dosha context is that a benefic owning a kendra looses beneficence [chapter 34]. This by itself does not mean it starts acting as a malefic. Its gets reduction in ability to give effects naturally. Usually the native will not be content with that ownership of bhava is consequence. but then conjunctions, aspects, ashtakvarga, navamsa all together will show full picture..

http://dir.groups.[No Personal Contact Details on Public Forum].com/group/ancie ... sage/22095

http://varahamihira.[NO EXTERNAL LINKS PLEASE].in/2004/06 ... ets-i.html

these are gd links to understand.
AD Ji. Excellent. Appreciated

On Gandata and Nks....

Junction/Sandhi of any two signs or NK..Inauspiois

Any planet posited there or birth of any event is slated to be Weak and causes lots of problems.

When junction of signs and NK occurs simult.. it is worst.

These NKs are Me 1st padam &Ketu 1st padam whose junct coincides with junctions of Cn and Le,Sc and Sg and of Pi & Ar.

A native born in 1st padam of Ashwini,Magham/Moolam may or will cause loss to fathet/ mother, while those born in last padam of Revati,Aslesha &Jyeshta may cause loss of wealth, life of fathet resply.
There inauspiousness is more pronounced if they do not receivr any benefics influence.

Regards
KET Ji

If any planet from 27 degree from pieces to 3 degree of aries, planet getting Vergottam status, then why Pi & Ar junction/sandhi is weak.

regard / Ranjan
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Parashar ke Vanshdharon,
Junction/Sandhi of hands & legs are always week but just above & below junction /sandhi most strongest. :idea:
Saturn & Rahu are sitting shyly in my 7th house & natal Jupiter is winking. Very true I am feeling like sitting at crown in Amravati.
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-------- I can understand astrology but I dont know more than that. So any help that you can provide is great and I appreciate it. I also want to know that even when I work hard and I am quite smart, usually things don't materialize. For the effort I put in, I should be doing very well. But I have always found that things dont get done or are stalled.
Hi Galaxy,

Coming to your chart, i have the same lagna as u do and hence i took interest in ur chart. My saade sati was not bad. It just delayed things a bit. Things which used to come easy to me started getting delayed. However it taught me patience. It taught me not to waste my energy on unwanted issues. It taught me to be a bit more humble. My saturn is in the 9th house whose dispositor is exalted and aspected by a benefic.

In ur case, saturn is debilitated placed in the 8th and there are no benefic aspects. Dispositor of saturn is in gandanta. In astakavarga chart, saturn gets 2 points. No wonder your saade sati was bad. Saturn owns 6th house(of service), saturn aspects ur 10th house of work. You will have issues. You wil have to struggle. But dont forget, 10th lord mercury is exalted. Yes you will have struggles, but dont give up. Saturn is also in the nakshatra of Venus who is ur 9th lord placed in the 11th house, which is good.

Always remember Dasha's take precedence over transits . You are currently in the MD of Rahu, whose dispositor is saturn. Do u believe in remedies? If you do i am sure Astroduffer can give u remedies. Rahu in kumba is good. Its considered Rahu's own house. So there you go. Not everything is bad. 2nd and 9th in the 11th is good for wealth and money.

Regards
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What does Sat-Rahu conjunction in 3rd house indicates? Lagna is Leo. Dasha seq is Ketu-Jup. Moon in 8th. Jup-Mars in 9th.
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