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deeps wrote:Hi Takla,

Thanks for sharing your experience in Rahu dasha. It is strange that you had a good time in Rahu period in twenties. I bet your life changed significantly post 30 years. Rahu dasha must have given you some chronic health problems.

Rahu is in 8th house and conjunct with 10th Lord who is exalted there. Is your profession connected to research, insurance or anything to do with secrecy? Do you have great interest in workings of the mind or psychological?

Has there been circumstances where you occupied high posts but only for a short time? Sometimes, you must have faced the dis pleasures from the boss?
I had no chronic health problems in Rahu dasha (or later). I am in IT (software dev/management). I do have average interest in reading/knowing about working of minds/meta-physics/astrology etc. I did occupy higher post for few years but not very pleasant experience (and it was in Jupiter dasha), and yes I had displeasure from boss (confrontational).

I would say up until '89 it was very average, and 82-88 period in Rahu/Sat and Rahu/Mercury was especially not so good. Rahu/Venus/Sat (in '91) I got an opportunity to go overseas (sort of turning point for me).

I had stable jobs and mostly stress free life up until '99. And then relocated 4-5 times. But, since end of 2009 it has been a roller-coaster ride (stressful, cornered and sort of trapped at work). Last one year has been mostly inaction.

I hope Shani-Dasha may put my life back in order. How do you see it? Is Rahu and/or Jupiter favorable in my chart (both in 8th house with moon), have heard varied opinion on this. Thanks.
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You may have seen mine in this forum, here it is 27-June 65, 13:39 PM Allahabad. My Rahu period was better of other Mahadashas and got career growth etc.

The next Jupiter Mahadasha, the initial period was Saade Saati so wasn't that great (relocated few times and stressful). The worst period with lot of mental stress (no work) at career front was Rahu Antardasha in Jupiter. I am still not out of it though my Saturn Mahadasha (suppose to be good) has started in Nov'11.

Please let me know, when the sun would start shining again for me (good times). Thanks
Jo chaha wo hua nahi aaur jo hua wo chaha nhai[at that moment]. Exchange of 10L[Moon] and 8L[Venus] and Rahu with 10L is indicating unconventional job or job in a foreign country. Both Jupiter and Rahu is in 8H with Moon[ 10L]. In D-9 again the same combination. How was Jupiter-Venus, Jupiter-Moon and Jupiter-Rahu? regards
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TW, as per chart I get for D-9(J-Hora), Ve/Ju are in moon (10L) and Sa/Mo in Taurus(8L). And D-10 has Ra in Moon (10L)
In D-9, again Venus[8L] and Moon[10L] are exchanging the sign. Rahu and Jupiter is with Venus in 10H. Saturn the 5L[ 8th from the 10H ] with 10L Moon in 8H, also aspecting the 10H. regards
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takla wrote:I would say up until '89 it was very average, and 82-88 period in Rahu/Sat and Rahu/Mercury was especially not so good. Rahu/Venus/Sat (in '91) I got an opportunity to go overseas (sort of turning point for me).
I wonder why Saturn sub-period, which is of the rajayogarak for his chart and also which is beautifully placed in his chart as 5th lord in 5th house turned out to be bad for him. Could it be because Rahu-Saturn period is generally bad, or because, Saturn is in the 5th house, which is said by Parashar to be the house of fall from position? Maybe they are the reasons.

Now, coming to Mercury sub-period why was it bad? Again difficult to understand as Mercury is the 9th lord in the 9th house in his chart. Could it be because it is conjunct with the 11th lord, which is a badhak for his chart, or was it because 9th house is the 12th house of loss from the 10th house of career, or did the 12th lord showed its effect in that period, the mooltrikona sign falling in that house? Maybe they are the reasons.

Coming to Venus sub-period, well, the period of 8th lord in the 10th house turning out to be good for career is something difficult to believe, so maybe the effect of lagna lord in the 10th house turned out to be the reason for a rise in career at that time.

The most fantastic point is his having a good success in life in the period of Rahu in the 8th house, which is again conjunct with the 10th lord Moon. But again, maybe because Rahu being exalted there, and Moon being exalted there as well that Rahu period turned out to be good for him.

The interesting thing is, Jupiter though making a good vipareet raja yoga in his chart, didn't give its effect to him as he struggled all through its period as he has said. Maybe the sade-sathi is to blame for that as he has said.

Would be glad to hear the opinions of the learned astrologers here.
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“You are what your deep driving desire is. As you desire, so is your will. As your will is, so is your deed. As your deed is, so is your destiny.” – Brihadaranyaka Upanishad IV: 4.5

Does it mean that destiny is not predestined? Something to ponder on.
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I had no chronic health problems in Rahu dasha (or later). I am in IT (software dev/management). I do have average interest in reading/knowing about working of minds/meta-physics/astrology etc. I did occupy higher post for few years but not very pleasant experience (and it was in Jupiter dasha), and yes I had displeasure from boss (confrontational).

I would say up until '89 it was very average, and 82-88 period in Rahu/Sat and Rahu/Mercury was especially not so good. Rahu/Venus/Sat (in '91) I got an opportunity to go overseas (sort of turning point for me).

I had stable jobs and mostly stress free life up until '99. And then relocated 4-5 times. But, since end of 2009 it has been a roller-coaster ride (stressful, cornered and sort of trapped at work). Last one year has been mostly inaction.

I hope Shani-Dasha may put my life back in order. How do you see it? Is Rahu and/or Jupiter favorable in my chart (both in 8th house with moon), have heard varied opinion on this. Thanks.
Hi Takla,

Many thanks for the generous feedback. Some points of mine came true and some not. Anyway, since you have a good interest in astrology, I will try to answer your doubts.

First thing, I must tell you that no matter how much you try, there will be obstacles like Amitabh Bachchan due to the conglomeration of planets in the 8th house of obstacles even in the benefic dasha of Saturn.

Some part of Rahu mahadasha was good but some part were bad. I see you had success like going to abroad after 30 years. Rahu is a malefic planet for you. However please note that Saturn in transit was in 11th house from the Moon which meant earning wealth and many of your wishes coming true. Note that in your chart, Saturn is indeed the yogkaraka planet for you.

For Libra lagna, Guru is the malefic planet for you and you can't expect much happiness in his mahadasha.

Now you have started Saturn mahadasha and as you know Saturn is the natural karaka for sufferings, limitations, fear, punishment, slow moving, depression and on the positive sides, He is also the natural kartaka for hard work, determination perseverance, etc.

So in Saturn periods, there will be limitations and obstacles, to be further compounded by strong 8th house, yet Saturn, as yogkaraka for you, indeed this dasha will see your incomes increasing high and even promotions but after delay. As the dasha progresses, you will feel financial secured. Saturn dasha will even protect you from adverse periods in the end as it is the major dasha of 5th Lord. Expect even stable promotion also. Even if you are promoted, there will be conspiracies to implicate you due to 8th house, but rest assured due to strong 5th House of divine Blessings, you will over come your secret enemies through your hard work.

Also, since Guru/ Rahu period was bad and which was also dasha chidra and with transiting Rahu afflicting your natal moon, expect improvements from Jan'13. Your 47th age, from Jun'13, will be better period for you.
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Yellow wrote:“You are what your deep driving desire is. As you desire, so is your will. As your will is, so is your deed. As your deed is, so is your destiny.” – Brihadaranyaka Upanishad IV: 4.5

Does it mean that destiny is not predestined? Something to ponder on.
Ok, I believe that if you believe in something, believe it whole-heatedly no matter what anybody else says..be it right or wrong...because 1000 people will say 1000 different things.
I would stick to what I believe in based on my experience. That makes me rigid? may be..
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Humanature,

I understand your point. Our beliefs are formed from what life teaches us, and we should stick to them. Just because I quoted something, which is contrary to what I believe in, doesn’t make me change my belief. But then, I feel we should not be so insecure about our beliefs that the very mention of something, which is contrary to them should make us start doubting them.

I quoted the lines, even though they are contrary to what I believe in, because I want to know why it has been said, and when the explanation given, try to understand it in the context of my life, and accept it if it make sense and refuse to accept it if it doesn’t. It's as simple as that.
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Humannature:
1000 people will say 1000 different things.
I would stick to what I believe in based on my experience. That makes me rigid?


This is what I too do based on my experience and may be that is the quality of vrichika lagna and rasi.
Anyway I have no patience and will end up doing something on my own rather than waiting for another who promised help and who I know can do better. I do listen to advices and change my perception also since what we do independently may not be the right one. One has to shed his ego to realise that. So I accept others advices, comments especially in areas where I am a novice.

So there are good and bad things in being rigid and in being not rigid too. So one needs to have a balance on that.

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Yellow wrote:“You are what your deep driving desire is. As you desire, so is your will. As your will is, so is your deed. As your deed is, so is your destiny.” – Brihadaranyaka Upanishad IV: 4.5

Does it mean that destiny is not predestined? Something to ponder on.
It should have continued like - As is your destiny, so is your desire. Is it the freewill (the choices we make)? I feel in many cases it is not.
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Hi Takla,

Many thanks for the generous feedback. Some points of mine came true and some not. Anyway, since you have a good interest in astrology, I will try to answer your doubts.

First thing, I must tell you that no matter how much you try, there will be obstacles like Amitabh Bachchan due to the conglomeration of planets in the 8th house of obstacles even in the benefic dasha of Saturn.

Some part of Rahu mahadasha was good but some part were bad. I see you had success like going to abroad after 30 years. Rahu is a malefic planet for you. However please note that Saturn in transit was in 11th house from the Moon which meant earning wealth and many of your wishes coming true. Note that in your chart, Saturn is indeed the yogkaraka planet for you.

For Libra lagna, Guru is the malefic planet for you and you can't expect much happiness in his mahadasha.

Now you have started Saturn mahadasha and as you know Saturn is the natural karaka for sufferings, limitations, fear, punishment, slow moving, depression and on the positive sides, He is also the natural kartaka for hard work, determination perseverance, etc.

So in Saturn periods, there will be limitations and obstacles, to be further compounded by strong 8th house, yet Saturn, as yogkaraka for you, indeed this dasha will see your incomes increasing high and even promotions but after delay. As the dasha progresses, you will feel financial secured. Saturn dasha will even protect you from adverse periods in the end as it is the major dasha of 5th Lord. Expect even stable promotion also. Even if you are promoted, there will be conspiracies to implicate you due to 8th house, but rest assured due to strong 5th House of divine Blessings, you will over come your secret enemies through your hard work.

Also, since Guru/ Rahu period was bad and which was also dasha chidra and with transiting Rahu afflicting your natal moon, expect improvements from Jan'13. Your 47th age, from Jun'13, will be better period for you.

Continuing from the above, what the destiny shows in your chart? What destiny can been seen through your 8th house? Inheritance, legacy, conspiracies, journey to foreign due to rahu, setbacks in professional at times, sudden gains in professions, sudden promotions. This is the destiny you cannot change.

Saturn in own house in 5th house and now dasha starting. This placement can be decoded as gains and help from children, good gains from speculative, increased stable income, technical education, interest in astrology, spirituality, associating with spiritual people. Besides, the negative karakas of Saturn, you will see good times often after hardwork. This is the destiny that you can never changed.

The presence of Sun and Mercury in 9th house hows interest in spirituality matters, obstacles to father but also gains through him. If I am right, you have atleast one elder sibling.
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deeps wrote: Even if you are promoted, there will be conspiracies to implicate you due to 8th house, but rest assured due to strong 5th House of divine Blessings, you will over come your secret enemies through your hard work.
Thanks for the comments. So, no phenomenal growth in sight :). Which planet in my 8H really gets people to conspire and up in sleeve, is it Rahu? And what should I do to fix it? Is making Venus strong (wear diamond) not a good idea, it is both Lagnesh and Vergottam. I feel this and not getting sufficient result/recognition for my effort has been major issue with me all along. Please suggest.
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Thanks for the comments. So, no phenomenal growth in sight . Which planet in my 8H really gets people to conspire and up in sleeve, is it Rahu? And what should I do to fix it? Is making Venus strong (wear diamond) not a good idea, it is both Lagnesh and Vergottam. I feel this and not getting sufficient result/recognition for my effort has been major issue with me all along. Please suggest.
As I wrote earlier, it is your destiny to get mess up in conspiracies theory. Sorry, I am not much into gemology.

About secret conspiracies, 8th house rules that.
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Dear Takla ji,

There is some deep meaning in your chart, you will decode it yourself finally!

Now the 8th-10th connection may not give you sufficient recognition but it may drive you more inside due to disappointments,frustrations and finally you will come to see that there is only one settling place or permanent settlement, ie, our heart or self :)

Also this 8th house energy, will make you free from many attachments, many times forcibly.

so you are lucky in that way but if you compare with others, which is natural too, you may appear a loser, but a life which goes easy, is not a high life.

You will get as many insights which comes to people only when they are nearing end, but then it is useless :)
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deeps wrote:
Hi Takla,
The presence of Sun and Mercury in 9th house hows interest in spirituality matters, obstacles to father but also gains through him. If I am right, you have atleast one elder sibling.
Yes, I do.
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]Hi Takla,
The presence of Sun and Mercury in 9th house hows interest in spirituality matters, obstacles to father but also gains through him. If I am right, you have atleast one elder sibling.

Yes, I do.
Thanks for the confirmation.
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8-sep-1964
18:15pm
New Delhi

Here in this chart, I will talk about the Rahu periods, dramatic rise in Guru periods and then downfall, later on in Saturn/ Saturn periods, in his profession life. This chart belongs to a one time State Head in one of the top tele -commuination company in India and with whom I worked for quite sometime.


The person was nothing in the periods of Rahu mahadasha, which lasted around 26 years of age. He had no aim and did not like staying at one place for a long, which is another characteristics of Rahu period.

His father was a prominent professor and even established a school for the under priviliged children.

However, even in guru's initial period, he could not find any stable job and did odd jobs as examiner at University.

His first major break came at the age of 29 when he joined some private company as a trainee. This was the turning point in his life and this period happens to coincide with Saturn Return.
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Right after joining a private company, his fortunes keep on changing for the better. He travelled a lot and stayed in many cities in India. Eventually, he was promoted to State Head in 7 to 8 years.

See the Rajyoga in his chart in 7th house. See the debilitated Mars in 6th house as 10th Lord which is a Rajyoga. Deb. planets in 3rd house, 6th and 12th house is an exception and gives Rajyoga effects, if the time is ripe.
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Dear Takla ji,

If you decode Mel gibson and Mr Hanks, i mean what is there in them which attracts you, you can decode yourself :)

Karmic debts, may be, but what lesson or insight it imparted to you? i mean the lesson in rahu dasa or in jupiter dasa?

Inspite of frustrations and disappointments, have they indicated some thing?
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krishnagopal1968 wrote: Karmic debts, may be, but what lesson or insight it imparted to you? i mean the lesson in rahu dasa or in jupiter dasa?

Inspite of frustrations and disappointments, have they indicated some thing?
Nothing extraordinaire. Just that God has been very kind to us in many ways, let's thank him/her. And, let's try to be true to ourselves in each of our action.

I feel we don't really have much control on the way we sometimes act, knowing well that the action is not correct we still act in a particular way (destined?). No amount of brain training to alert/warn us helps here 100%, it can diminish the impact but not avert it. We can listen to our inner self (but am not sure if it will be driven by our destiny). I guess it's the 'ego' that gets us and drives most of our acts, and puts us in this karmic cycle.
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Just that God has been very kind to us in many ways, let's thank him/her. And, let's try to be true to ourselves in each of our action.

I feel we don't really have much control on the way we sometimes act, knowing well that the action is not correct we still act in a particular way (destined?). No amount of brain training to alert/warn us helps here 100%, it can diminish the impact but not avert it. We can listen to our inner self (but am not sure if it will be driven by our destiny). I guess it's the 'ego' that gets us and drives most of our acts, and puts us in this karmic cycle.


Now, why you call these words, not extra ordinary? For me, they are beautiful insights.

8th house is a house of vulnerabilty, takla ji. The gains in this periods are really very helpful for our life's journey.

Thanks for your reply and wish you good luck.
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I feel we don't really have much control on the way we sometimes act, knowing well that the action is not correct we still act in a particular way (destined?). No amount of brain training to alert/warn us helps here 100%, it can diminish the impact but not avert it. We can listen to our inner self (but am not sure if it will be driven by our destiny). I guess it's the 'ego' that gets us and drives most of our acts, and puts us in this karmic cycle.

Beautiful thoughts. Thanks for sharing them.
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As we know the presence of Sun and Mercury considerably delays the marriage. This native got married at the afe of 36 or 37 to a working woman. The man's success continued throughout thirties but at the same time there was some difficulties in his progress.

Since 10th Lord is deb. in 6th house which has 2 meanings. One is Rajyoga after struggle and the other is problems at workplace like court cases. I happened to ask him if in mars period, he faced some court related cases at his workplace and he confirmed it. He said some outside party had sued him over money and even police came at his place for an enquiry. However, he did not go to jail and if i remember correctly, the case is still going on.

His success continued in Guru/ rahu period he enjoyed his elevated status in his profession.

Then came the Saturn period in late 2006.

to be continued.
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As soon as his Saturn dasha started, sade sati also started for him. There was a big change in his profession and he joined another company. Note saturn is also the lord of 12th house. However, it is said that sade-sati in Saturn period can be very damaging.

After joining the new company, he faced the ego clashes with his new seniors. For arguing, he was often given the boring tasks like paperwork which he greatly resisted. He was often sent to tours which he never liked. As a result, he suffered in his new workplace for more than a year and after becoming fed up due to harassment, he resigned on his own.

Note the mutual aspect of Saturn and Sun. This creates differences among employers and employee relations during in bad times.

His bad times is still continuing till today. He is working in some small company, away from his hometown, and earns much less than what he used to earn in his good times. Sometimes, he remains at home for months without working.

Sade-sati has been very damaging to him. His mother underwent 2 surgeries within a month, connected to hip bone fracture. It was very stressful times for him and his wife even beginning to maintain distant from him and not respond to his calls. He had 2 children to take care of him.

He would often call me, even at the dead of the night and we will talk for more than an hour.

However, the silver lining in his chart is that I often tells him that shash mahapurush yoga will not fail and it will be activated soon. The other bonus point for him is that he lives at his father's house which is located in the prime area of the city and which can, if he easily sells it, fetch him crores and solve all his financial problems (note the 2nd house of wealth in 4th house and also 11th house of gains in 4th house, without any malefic aspect.)
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