The Kaam Trikon i.e Axis of (evil?) Desires

[shilpa]

Shilpaji....

How is my Kaamtrikona houses ?

29 Dec 1972 / 10:30 AM / Tenkasi /

Thanks
Guru

dear guru,

--7th house lord is sun is in friendly Jupiter house in the 11th

--11th Lord Jup is in swakshetra...and Ra conjunct with string Jup is acting like Jup magnifying the effects of Jup.

--a very strong and positive 11th house, inspite of a partailly combust Jup....keeps overtly strong negative desires and addictions in control.

--3rd lOrd Mas in swakshetra in the 10th...strong 3rd house and as trong 10th house....with the 9th lord in conjunction with 10th forming DKAY

--a Karmyogi chart.....focussed on work...with ethics principle, good value system and will rise to a high position in career....with any major negative desires in controls...no addictions...few evils....good chart.

regards

[shilpa]

Shilpa Madam,
In my chart third lord is exalted but seventh and eleventh lord is deb...What does it indicate.....
DOB- 6-9-1968
time- 3.40am
Place- Chennai
Regards,
Sunder.

dear sunds,
--debilitated Mars aspecting the 7th house....and the 7th lord shani is in debility.....severly afflicted 7th house.....desires bothe emotional and physical not fullfilled in marriage......problematic marriage.....seeking solace in other relations almost addictively ?

-- 3rd house is good with an exalted Me.....giving desires to succeed socially, with friends and close relatives.....and suceeding...attaining good social image.

--11th Lord Venus is debilitated ( Ok some will say neech bhang applies....but debility is never completly cancelled IMO)...afflicts the 11th house and confirms addictions......alcohol? indulging too much in material plesures....opposite sex.

--it's a chart of extremes.....perosnality that is socially seen as amenable, successful & positive......and suffering in personal life and resorting to addictions for help.

regards

[nits]

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[shilpa]

Dear gopalgkb,
whose chart is born on 30th dec?
you are born ion 12th Dec?

yes at the D1 level.....29th and 30th dec charts are same because they are born very close in times and geographical location...so planets have remained in the same zodiacal houses.
that the ascendant is the same is due to similarity of the time on diffrent days.....it's quite normal and their lives will may follow similar pattern.
however Navamsa( D9) and higher charts are different.
that is why in Manushya Jatak is accurately read from dasavarga charts ( group if 10 divisonal charts going from D1 to D60)

regards

Hello Shilpaji

I cannot believe it

The below chart and overall predictions matches to similar placements / results to the earlier chart which I requested you to analyse.

On further curiosity, I obtained the lagna chart for the below individual and the planets are exactly in same houses. I have never come across 2 chart having everything identical.

I am sure there will be fundamental changes, no 2 charts can be 100% same. Can I request you and other learned members to please analyse and offer your valuable comments.

Upfront, which chart looks more positive and can you please once again give us some common and uncommon points for both the below charts.

Chart -1
29 Dec 1972 / 10:30 AM / Tenkasi , LAT : 8 : 44 : N , LONG: 77 : 44 : E

Chart -2
30 Dec 1972 / 11:19 AM / Kollengode LAT: 10 : 47 : N , LONG: 76 : 39 : E

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Hi Guru!

We have got something very interesting here. Hope we will have some discussions after Shilpaji and others put their valuable comments.

Thanks

Jeet

Shilpaji....

How is my Kaamtrikona houses ?

29 Dec 1972 / 10:30 AM / Tenkasi /

Thanks
Guru

dear guru,

--7th house lord is sun is in friendly Jupiter house in the 11th

--11th Lord Jup is in swakshetra...and Ra conjunct with string Jup is acting like Jup magnifying the effects of Jup.

--a very strong and positive 11th house, inspite of a partailly combust Jup....keeps overtly strong negative desires and addictions in control.

--3rd lOrd Mas in swakshetra in the 10th...strong 3rd house and as trong 10th house....with the 9th lord in conjunction with 10th forming DKAY

--a Karmyogi chart.....focussed on work...with ethics principle, good value system and will rise to a high position in career....with any major negative desires in controls...no addictions...few evils....good chart.

regards

[shiranffs]

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[shilpa]

Dear Shilpaji

Thank you for your response.


Also, I still wonder why did you comment of 11th house being strong. True Jupiter is in its own house with good friend Sun. But why would Rahu enhance the positivity, I thought it pollutes the traditional Guru with its orthodox ways and makes it weak.

Jeet

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... =1&t=10102

read this thread...Rahu standalone or conjunct....explains and siscusses in great details when Rahu is positive standalone and in conjunctions

[shilpa]

Hi Shilpa...

How is my Kaamtrikona houses ?

29 Aug 1979 / 10:05 PM / Colombo,SL

Thanks
Shiran

dear shiran,

--3rd house has a somewhat angry Mars...and 7th Lord Venus is badly combust

--Moon is innimical in the 7th house, and gets the drishti of a combust shani

--Ke in the 11th is in Rahu's Nakshtar.....never a good placeemnt...when moksha karak is sitting is material karak's Nk....there is no positive control offered by the 1th house.

I think the Kaam trikon is defnitely afflcited and 7th the worst of the afflicted houses....giving rise to too many material desires---wanting to appear socially cool, impressive to the opposite sex, wanting and trying too much in relationships.....addictions to modern hedonistic pleasures/

regards

[kabir]

Respected Shilpaji,

I would like to request you to elaborate the KAMATRIKONA house in my birth chart?

Here is my birth details,

Date of birth : 29th april 1984
Time: 02:29 AM (IST)
Place: Amreli, gujarat, india.
Kind regards,
Kabir chintan

[ankit123]

Thaks for such an informative post Shilpa Ji,

Now i understand partially my compulsive nature.
I have
3rd lord Shani in 11th house
11th lord mercury in 3rd house
7th lord Ve in 3rd house

11th house has shani and mars

I believe this combination makes me compulsive and not accepting no as an answer.... Called extreme "jiddi" in hindi

I would love to have ur analysis on that front. Details 20/02/82, 2:10 am, Allahabad.

Regards,
Ankit

[xxyyzz]

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[saditya86]

[quote="shilpa"]--We last heard of the axis of evil from Bush (jr) and Cheny…but our astrology has explained the axis of ( evile?) desire or the Kaam trikon since time immemorial.


Houses 3-7-11 form the Kaam trikon.

Kaam means desires generally ( as in Kaamna) and is also interpreted more specifically as sexual desires.

--3rd is the house of social interactions and communications and the seed of desires….formed generally in the early age by observations of what is there and what others have in the society
7th is “the well known” main house of sex and sexual union…generally in the peak of youth….and 11th house representsthe pinnacle of desires…that has to be first satiated and then overcome before the soul can move towards Moksha i.e the 12th house.

--11th is the 12th to the 12th…….and hence a strong 11th house destroys the Moksha house……strong unsatiated desires are the final frontier before the soul moves towards Moksha.

--Are desires bad?
Not really.... according to me….a soul needs to go through the cycles of learning Dharma ( what is right), performing Aarth ( Karmyog i.e work to earn the livelihood), fulfilling Kaam ( undertsand desires and fullfil them and also fuel the cycle of procreation)…before he is ready for the final emancipation Moksha.

--However desires when turning into evil desires are bad.

So what should we look for in interpreting the Kaam Trikon…not very complicated:

1)[b]Strength:[/b] of the houses 3-7-11 will reveal the strength of desires and wish fulfillment capability of that chart. Association of the houses 3-7-11 will make it doubly or triply strong wish fulfillment capability.

For example: strong 3rd will give the desire and ability for fulfillment of social prestige while strong 7th will give a want for and success in union with opposite sex...and a strong 11th will enable fullfilment of all desires. An association between 3-7 houses makes the Kaam/ desire fulfillment ability much stronger and an association between 3-7-11 makes it even stronger.

2)[b]Afflictions[/b]: of the Kaam trikon turn desires into addictions, vices, perversions, especially the 11th house which is the pinnacle of desires and the house of wish fulfillment.
Hints for gambling, womanizing, alcoholism etc MUST be visible by the analysis of the Kaam Trikon.

Standalone example-- Venus the lord of 7th in the 11th house and conjunct with Rahu……might give all sorts of perverse sexual desires. The strength of 7-11 houses their lords, aspects and conjunctions will give an answer on whether the native is able to harness the desires or lives in mere fanciful imaginations
The nature of the planets lording, sitting, aspecting or conjuncting in the houses on the kaam trikon will cumulative tell us about the nature of the vices/ addictions.

So go ahead and try to check how is the desire fulfillment component in your chart

regards[/quote]

Hi Shilpaji

Lagna Kundli:

Mithuna lagna
11th house(Aries): Sun-Moon in conjunction & Rahu-Mercury(lagna & 4th lord) in conjunction
Mars in 7th house
3rd lord in 11th house
7th lord in 9th house
11th lord in 7th house

Rahu MD till 2026
Will Rahu play major role in fulfilling desires..?
Pls guide regarding the Rahu-Mercury conjunction.
I have been told that Rahu is a terrific deceiver & may bring u down but jupiter is saviour.

09 May 1986
10:01 am Nasik India

[Dev]

That is interesting.
I have all the three kaam trikon in the 3rd house but then there are other 4 planets there as well and then the aspect of rahu. So how would that work?
Dev

[SuryaLagna]

Dear Shilpa Madam,

Excellent Write up!

Here's my analysis on the interrelationship between 3-7-11 in my chart
1) Lord of 3rd aspecting the 7th
2) planet posited in the 3rd aspecting the 7th
3) conjunction of the lord of 7th and 11th
4) Planets in 3rd aspecting the 11th
5) lord of 7th aspecting the 11th
6) planets in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th
7) lord of 3rd in the amsa of the planet posited in the 3rd (venus in the amsa of jupiter)
lord of 7th in the amsa of the lord of 11th (sat in virgo navamsha)
9) planet posited in the 11th in the amsa of lord of 7th (rahu in aquarius navamsha)
10) Lord of 3rd in the Lagna, unafflicted although in enemy house

Now some negatives
1) 2/12 relationship between lord of 3rd and 7th
2)2/12 relationship between lord of 3rd and 11th
3) 2/12 relationship between planet posited in 3rd and 7th lord
4) planet in 3rd in PKY
5)lord of the 7th conjunct with enemy, although its the LL
6) lord of 11th retro

Neutrals
1) planet posited in 11th and planet posited in 3rd in trines to each other
2) planet posited in 11th in kendra to its lord
3) planet posited in 11th in kendra to 7th lord
4) lord of the 3rd and planet posited in 3rd trines to each other

Result: unable to draw a conclusion. Too many aspects on 7th house and 11th house. Too much confusion

Waiting for your response

Regards
SL

[scorpqueen]

those having capricorn Langna going to have ketu in 3rd juptr in 7th and later this year sat in 11th so how will be he result of this in kaam trikon.... i wud like to know that.

[GNE]

Hello ,
I have 3rd lord exalted in 11th, with 11th lord and rahu.
Though I don't have many material desires, no addictions, never drink or smoke or do any drugs, and no real interest in sex, never cared to date really, ...my friends tease me and call me "Reverend" (priest) or a monk. Though of course I'm not that way, but I'm wondering what my chart shows in this regard, seeing as there's 3 planets (malefics) in 11th.
...but I assume they do well as it's upachaya.
Any insight in regards to this Kaam Trikon in my chart would be appreciated and very interesting , thank you!

April 15, 1985
10:54 am
Toronto (Province: Ontario, in Canada)

[ashakamath1951]

Shilpa

If someone has

Moon=Pushya/Mars-Punarvasu in 3 rd house- Cancer
Mercury-Revathi and Venus R in 11th house Revathi- Pisces

whats the result?

another person has

Moon-Pushya Cancer 11th house
Jupiter-Revathi, Venus-Revathi and Rahu-U bhadra Pisces 7th house
Saturn R Jyesta Scorpio

whats the result?

[drnature88]

Hi Shilpa ji ,

my 3rd lord is debilitated in 5th house with Own house Venus and Asc ,
7th lord Jupiter is in 11th house aspected by 3rd house lord and 11th house lord ...

How is my Kaam Trikon ?

Birth Date - 18 / 10 / 1987
Birth Time - 10.55 pm or 22.55
Birth Place - Ahmedabad , Gujarat

Thanks .

[ami]

Shilpaji,

In my horoscope 3,7,11 lords are forming Raj yoga(gajkesri, chandra mangal) in 9th house along with 9th lord. what does it mean, I have endless desires or desires fulfillment through luck & religion. I personally feel that I desire peaceful, religious & comfortable life & moksha.

Ami
12-jul-1977 11.10AM Bulandshahr(U.P)

[shridharkumbhar777]

Hello Shilpaji,

My Birth details are as follows :-
DOB :- 25/01/1983
TOB:- 2.08 AM
POB :- Bhigwan (Indapur, Maharashtra)

Could you please share some insights on my Kaam tikon ?

Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Shridhar Kumbhar