The Nakshatras - Discussion and Inputs for Me

[Nitin21]

Sonu ji,

If mausi had a moochh and dadhi she would be mama ji na?? Lagna doesn't move to scorpio. This is why I am uncomfortable with SS. Pl see if the chart matches with the life.

Deepak have I given the looks correctly?

So two planets in dual rasi in 4th give mausa a saree and bloouse ? By your logic all 4th house dual rasis with Sun+Venus born during that period will have mom and stepmom ?? IF you wish to fit in please do.. Dhanu only gives a blouse to a gentleman

[Nitin21]

Kool ji , you are correct . He is about 5.5 , dark , lost some teeth in the sides back, eyes blood shot , small paunch other wise lean built, prominet veins on the hands, non muscular , and scruffy off course .

Sir RedShot eyes are signification of MArs. Loosing teeth is influence of Saturn on 2nd. 5.5 is a height that Sat aspect on lagna and Rahu's amplification on Dhanu will not provide. Jup in 7th gives him paunch.

[Nitin21]

There is another catch you need to escape from .. Jup aspects 2 and 12.

Yes but he is in the 12th lord's Nakshatra . If it's Scorpio , then he aspects lagna and lagna lord as the 2nd and the 5th lord . + he is friends with the Lagna lord + he is in a exalted planets house aspecting from a Kendra + he is in the Lagna lord's Nakshatra . For Dhanu he is aspecting from a Upachaya / Dusthana house .

Sir please note we are talking about Jupiter here. .. It has its karaka effects which are determinant by its natural traits.

[kandhan]

Astroboy,

By Parashar's beard and kamandal, I never saw the step mother connection. How can this be deduced from this chart? And when you meet him pl don't say all the things we have said.

swamykoolji,

moon in ketu nakshtra/gandanta?

17.09.1939, 3.56 am, Vilatikulam . he lost his mother barely into his 10 month.
moon in 4 deg leo, magha.

[milredr]

You people are arguing so much. What u all dont realise is - could it b that the man is getting what he wants with all his yogas(which is whiskey worth Rs.38). May b it is all that he wants

Let us look at why he is addicted to alchohol now that i have given a convincing reply . That would be more interesting IMO . What drives the man to addiction?

[swamykool]

Sonu ji,

Sari and blouse aside. 4th H in a dual rashi and 2 planets in it is certainly an indicator for two mothers. But it is not a clincher. There must be other indications. Moon in a gandanta, I knew it for danger to mothers health and seperation from mother, death or otherwise, apart from extreme mental confusion. That it might also mean a stepmother never struck me. Thanks to Kandhan ji and astroboy for that info. As I said earlier, I did not spot the step mother connection and took note of it only after astroboy pointed it out.

Regarding your other point, if it was his 5th house, being a dual rashi and 2 planets in it would certainly indicate at least 2 children if not more and at least one of them a girl. Being a water rashi would also indicate a very fertile 5th H. And 5th L in the 7th (3rd fr 5th) would indicate a little strained relation with his children.

But it isn't, is it?

swamykool

[Nitin21]

4th H in a dual rashi and 2 planets in it is certainly an indicator for two mothers.

Sir are you saying if there were 2 more planets in there, there would be 4 mothers ? Now that you are absolutely sure of this, I will get some info on how step mother is inferred from a chart. This certainly is a very vague thing. If you apply this concept to 3,4,5,6 etc.. it would mean two siblings, two mothers, two children, two maternal uncles.... Are you sure you are on right track ? How about 2 planets in dual sign and addition of a dual rasi making it 4 mothers ? IF not then what would happen if it was not a dual sign and still there were two planets.? Would there still be two mothers ?

Regarding your other point, if it was his 5th house, being a dual rashi and 2 planets in it would certainly indicate at least 2 children if not more and at least one of them a girl. Being a water rashi would also indicate a very fertile 5th H. And 5th L in the 7th (3rd fr 5th) would indicate a little strained relation with his children.

But it isn't, is it?

Sir i hope you read my other post where I indicated the importance of 12th house for this chart and how Sat connects with badhakesha and connects to Rahu as DK too. I had clearly inferred even before Astroboy indicated that There could be a denial of marriage altogether. Now if you want to infer children first before marriage, then I cannot help it here.

Lets get back to basics. Even if it was not a dual rasi in 5th and two planets were there, there would be two children. So, your point of dual rasi does not hold good here. And since it does not hold good for 5th house, we cannot infer two mothers from 4th as well.
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Out of all the indicators leading towards wealth, education, excellent job, excellent luxurious property with Dhanu lagna, the only point that has been coming across is dual mothership owing to dual rasi. First the debate must counter all these elements, as to why these are not seen ? Then one can harp on the step mother thing.

I will get you the info on step mother part, with appropriate yogas. I have read it somewhere but cannot recollect it.

Regards
Sonu

[Nitin21]

BPHS Chapter 9 Shloka 32.

"32. Doubtlessly the mother will give up the child, if it has malefics in Konas, counted from the decreasing Candr. No benefic shall be yuti with the said malefics."

Only Rahu in kendra from Moon without benefic aspect gives loss of mother here.

"33. If Mangal and Śani are together in a Kendra with reference to Candr and occupy one and the same Navāńś, the child will have two mothers. Yet it will be short-lived."

This is not entirely applicable in this case, as Saturn is not in kendra from moon and the native is longlived. But the point of Sat+MArs in same navamsa holds the clue here.

Secondly, with scorpio lagna 4th Lord becomes Saturn which is extremely malefic owing to 12th house effects explained earlyon. Now as per BPHS this Sat conjoins Mars in the same navamsa, giving credibility to the two mothers thing.

Lets look at it irrespective of BPHS. Will 4th Lord and lagna lord as Jupiter, make the mother to abandon the child OR Will it be Retro malefic Saturn as Matrukaraka and also as 4th lord in 12th, that is capable of doing that. ? Add to it, Mars in lagna aspects 4th. Read this along with bphs sutra indicating mars+sat conjoining in navamsa for two mothers. (Albeit partially).

Jaimini Sutras Adhyaya 1 Pada 1. Sutra 20 states

Mars also as karaka for step mother, apart from brothers etc. Where is mars connecting to 4th house or Lord with Dhanu lagna. Where is the step mother thing ? With scorpio lagna Mars in lagna aspects 4th.

Mercury is karaka for maternal relations is well known. With Mercury in Aquarius with scorpio lagna, this part is also satisfied for 4th house.

I rest my case here.
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[Abhisheik]

Off course , but for me this Boni Scot does not work well . The doctor has told me to take either Glenfiddich of Glen Livet . You can send it , or I can have it picked up . . I am ok with Double Black or Gold label / Blue label . Your choice . I am ok with any of the 5 . ( see I am not picky )

Why not Laphroaig?

[Abhisheik]

Thanks Sonu bhai and Swamykool ji. Illuminating to say the least. definitely agree about the loneliness part of it. common crib with both of them that nobody understands them.

[swamykool]

Sonu ji,

4th H in a dual rashi and 2 planets in it is certainly an indicator for two mothers. But it is not a clincher. There must be other indications.

Also by using the Sarvatobhadra Chakra, it can be seen that an exalted and retro Shani from Swati giving direct vedhas to the 5th L Mar in Jyeshtha and 7th L Mer in Satabhisha. There are no benefic vedhas to the said Nks.

And what becomes 12th H by Surya Siddhanta calculations comes out as 11th H by Drik Siddhanta calculations. There will be no end to this debate. Let each use what suits him/her best.

Regards
swamykool

[Nitin21]

Respected Sonu ji,

He has a physical robust constitution. Gk in 2nd from moon,

I am using Jhora 7.52 alpha & it is showing Moon itself as GK .I am not able to find out where I am making a mistake.Could you please help me understand this?

Best Regards,
Vhb

Buddy where did you get 7.52 alpha ? I could only see 7.51 on vedicastrologer site.

Regards
Sonu

[bali1938]

Dear Sonu,

http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/jh/test/jh_update.zip

This is from PVR [No Personal Contact Details on Public Forum] groups.If you have 7.51 dowload this to get 7.52 alpha.
Changes from 7.51 to 7.52 Alpha:
(1) Ashtottari dasa and Shashtihayani dasa calculation were not using
Abhijit correctly. It is fixed now.
(3) Nakshatra shift in Ashtottari dasa and Shashtihayani dasa were not
working correctly, as they are defined based on blocks of 4 or 3
nakshatras. It is fixed now. One can start Ashtottari dasa from either
Krittika or Ardra as taught by Lomasha Rishi.
(3) Planetary aspect table with relationships marked as color codes is
added. This table shows the amount of aspect of different planets on
different planets or houses, color coded by relationships. Please check
the popup menu on charts.
(4) Quantification of special aspects of Jupiter, Mars and Saturn used
in shadbala and "planetary aspect evaluation" were as per Dr Raman's
teachings. Now, an option is added to follow Dr Raman's teachings or
Parasara's teachings (default). The option can be accessed from the
pop-up menu of aspect table.
(5) The nakshatra dasa seed shift is made more user friendly now. The
default nakshatra from where dasas are counted is shown and one can
explicitly enter an alternative start nakshatra for research.

Thanks,
Balajhi

[astroboy]

Good day Bali Ji , thanks a ton for the link . Very nice of you . BTW Its Beta version now .

Thanks once again .

[swamykool]

Bali ji,

Thanks for the link. But the planetary aspects table still does not have any colour coding for 7.52 Beta.

[Nitin21]

Thanks Baliji for the link.

[astroboy]

Ramanan Ji , Can you confirm that the Gotra of Purvaashada Nakshatra is Sage Pulahu ?? I have a doubt , Thought I would cross check with you .

[swamykool]

Astroboy, the proper term is Pulaha, and Ardra, Hasta, Purvashadha and Uttarabhadrapada falls in the Pulaha Gotra.

[astroboy]

Thanks Swamy cool ji . That was my doubt . Thanks once again for clearing it .

[bali1938]

Dear Mr.Swamykool,
If possible can you give gotras for all nakshatras please?

Thanks,
Balajhi

[astroboy]

Bali ji , Its all here up to Poorva ashada . The rest will be updated soon

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... f=1&t=9826

Trust this helps.

[bali1938]

Thanks Astroboy ji. I hadn't looked properly at that post.

[swamykool]

Bali ji, here you are

Sage Nk1 Nk2 Nk3 Nk4
Marichi- Ashwini Pushya Swati Abhijit
Vashishtha- Bharani Ashlesha Vishakha Shravana
Angirasa- Krittika Magha Anuradha Dhanishtha
Atri- Rohini Purvaphalguni Jyeshtha Satabhisha
Pulastya- Mrigashira Uttaraphalguni Mula Purvabhadrapada
Pulaha- Ardra Hasta Purvashadha Uttarabhadrapada
Kratu- Punarvasu Chitra Uttarashadha Revati

The text window cannot even take bloody tables properly, goddamnit.

Regards
swamykool

[bali1938]

thank you sir

[Abhisheik]

Sonu Bhai,

A query from novice.

If A10 is in 12th house then it means 10th lord is in 5th house. For Pisces Cancer or Capricorn ascendant this placement of tenth lord in a trine should be very beneficial. Even otherwise 5th house is supposed to be good. I agree its 8th from 10th, but still it is a trine.