Navamsa and married life

[ChandraLagna]

Dear Pooja -

Your marriage looks on the cards to happen in 2013 and this will be likely a person arranged by your parents rather than any other person that you may now be liking.

Warm Regards,
Arun

PS: Please pray to Lord Vishnu. Vishnu Sahasranama is a good choice, if you can learn it.

[ChandraLagna]

Dear Ramanan,

I will definitely do that. Can you elaborate on what is the nature of the affliction for her w.r.t. marriage?

regards,
venkat

Dear Venkats,

Dont worry too much. Nothing major seen. She may have a more dominating personality in her husband.
Warm regards,
Arun

[Saindhavi]

RVenkats,

Perhaps I'm only showing my ignorance in front of such learned people. But I feel Mangal Dosha is not a problem in this chart.

Rather, Rahu in 7th in Leo alongwith Moon needs to be resolved, especially because she would be running Sun/Moon Dasha at the time of her marriageable age.

Of course, Rahu is only at 0.15' degrees and aspected by Jupiter, but one can't be sure about Rahu in such a combination. This is especially so because Rahu is in Magha Nakshatra, ruled by Ketu.

Goddess Kali and Lord Shiva are the presiding deities for Magha.

I don't know if Ramananji suggested the Bhagavat Mantra for this reason.

Venkat ji would do well to ask Ramanan Sir about this. As I said, I am no expert and I greatly respect the advice of Ramananji.

[ChandraLagna]

Dear Saidhavi -

There seems to be some difference - the lagna I am seeing is capri and Rahu is in 7th in Cancer. Obviously you are getting Aquarious lagna and Leo as 7H....

Is this what you used for the Lat/Long?
42° 16' 53" N / 83° 23' 11" W

In any case, the key thing is Rahu moves opposite direction to Moon, so Moon is not too much impacted. It is always necessary to keep the longitudes of the Rahu and the planet to decide whether there is a bad impact or not. In this case, Moon is ahead of Rahu and will progress clockwise, whereas Rahu goes back - so not a major issue on that front. Also observe JUP's powerful aspect on Moon. Dr. Jupiter will cure any mischief that Rahu can cause.

Regards,
Arun

[rvenkats]

Dear Saindhavi/arunsg321,

Thanks for your replies. The Ra position is indeed intriguing for me too. If I use true nodes and true positions in my calculation instead of mean nodes, actually Ra moves to the 6th house 28Cn47'22.91". In mean nodes usage it is in the 7th house. A powerful Ju aspect in the latter case is definitely a powerful positive point.

The lat/long specified by arun is correct but the Asc does come to Kumbha about 8 degrees. In case Ra is in 6th house then he is in Asresha 4t pada under Budhan while if in 7th house then he is ruled by a Ketu Nk - Magha.

Am I missing something here?

Regards,
venkat

[ChandraLagna]

Looks like I am the odd one out here....can Rvenkats and Saindhavi point out the differences?

Regards,
Arun




Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

Lagna 15 Cp 27' 01.51" Srav 2 Cp Ta
Sun - BK 21 Sg 58' 45.00" PSha 3 Sg Li
Moon - MK 17 Le 53' 25.02" PPha 2 Le Vi
Mars - AmK 27 Vi 16' 39.15" Chit 2 Vi Vi
Mercury - PK 5 Sg 27' 39.48" Mool 2 Sg Ta
Jupiter - AK 28 Aq 57' 37.88" PBha 3 Aq Ge
Venus - PiK 8 Cp 34' 25.03" USha 4 Cp Pi
Saturn - GK 2 Ar 59' 11.18" Aswi 1 Ar Ar
Rahu - DK 28 Cn 47' 18.73" Asre 4 Cn Pi
Ketu 28 Cp 47' 18.73" Dhan 2 Cp Vi
Maandi 21 Pi 51' 51.30" Reva 2 Pi Cp
Gulika 6 Pi 42' 15.21" UBha 2 Pi Vi
Special Point 17 Ge 08' 00.24" Ardr 4 Ge Pi


Natal Chart

Date: January 6, 1999
Time: 10:26:00
Time Zone: 4:00:00 (West of GMT)
Place: 83 W 23' 11", 42 N 16' 53"
Wayne, USA


Lunar Yr-Mo: Bahu-dhanya - Pushya
Tithi: Krishna Panchami (Ju) (34.07% left)
Vedic Weekday: Wednesday (Me)
Nakshatra: Poorva Phalguni (Ve) (65.82% left)
Yoga: Ayushman (Ke) (0.98% left)
Karana: Taitula (Me) (68.15% left)
Hora Lord: Moon (5 min sign: Sc)
Mahakala Hora: Saturn (5 min sign: Sg)
Kaala Lord: Mercury (Mahakala: Saturn)

Sunrise: 9:07:48
Sunset: 18:11:03
Janma Ghatis: 3.2585

Ayanamsa: 23-50-35.83
Sidereal Time: 15:55:21

[Saindhavi]

Arunji and Vankat ji,

I re-checked with Wayne, Michigan's
Latitude and Longitude - 42° 20' 14" N / 83° 11' 52" W,
Time zone - Minus 5.

I'm still getting Aquarius Lagna at 7.44.30 degrees.

If I use the Latitudes and Longitudes specified by Arunji, I get Aquarius Lagna at 8.3.01 Degrees.

Either way, Rahu and Moon have to be in Leo, not in Cancer - it is at 0.15 degrees in Leo.

I know it is almost moving out of 7th and in the transition zone between Leo and Cancer - Venkatji, that's why it shows in 6th in true node calculation, because it is in the transition zone.

I feel Rahu's power would be minimal, but still, I would say it should be propitiated. With Rahu we should not take chances, unless it is exalted or in a friendly sign in a house like 7th. In the mean node calculation it is in the 7th as you say.

An Aquarian Jupiter at 28.58 degrees may not be as powerful as it appears.

Ashlesha is symbolised as a serpent and Naga is its presiding deity. It is said to be the Nakshatra where Ketu is born, apart from Mercurial association.

[ChandraLagna]

Looks like there is a difference of one hour in time zone. Mine was at -4 hours, whereas Saindhavi and Venkats are at -5 hours....is this due to DST? Which one is correct?

Regards,
Arun

[Saindhavi]

Arunji,

Wayne, Michigan is at -5 in Standard time and at -4 in daylight saving time. I feel -5 should be used for casting charts. See link - http://www.timetemperature.com/tzmi/wayne.shtml

[ChandraLagna]

Thanks, Saindhavi.

So, during DST, -4 is the correct time to be used, right?

[Saindhavi]

Arunji,
Yes, but the link I posted above says that Wayne uses DST between March and November. This girl was born in January, when DST was not in use. Hence, standard time zone would be correct. Perhaps that's why Venkatji uses -5 for her chart.

[rvenkats]

Dear Arun,

It is true that DST didn't start till April that year. So we should use -5.

Dear Saindhavi,

Thanks for that insight regarding rulership. It helps.
Regards,
Venkat

[Saindhavi]

Venkatji,
Thanks for your response. But please check with Ramanan Sir about this Rahu remedy. You may send him the link to this page.

May God bless your daughter with a happy and prosperous marriage at the right time.

Regards,

Saindhavi

[ChandraLagna]

Dear Pooja,

Your Venus is in the rasi of debilitation - its not precisely debilitated. Importantly, it is in its own rasi in navamsa. Debility means weakness. Its not malfeasance, or evil. Pl do the Vishnu Strotra.

Regards,
Arun

[ChandraLagna]

Dear Saindhavi/arunsg321,

Thanks for your replies. The Ra position is indeed intriguing for me too. If I use true nodes and true positions in my calculation instead of mean nodes, actually Ra moves to the 6th house 28Cn47'22.91". In mean nodes usage it is in the 7th house. A powerful Ju aspect in the latter case is definitely a powerful positive point.

The lat/long specified by arun is correct but the Asc does come to Kumbha about 8 degrees. In case Ra is in 6th house then he is in Asresha 4t pada under Budhan while if in 7th house then he is ruled by a Ketu Nk - Magha.

Am I missing something here?

Regards,
venkat

Venkats,

I now have used -5 hours instead of the -4. I have the same chart positions as you an Saindhavi.

Rahu is at the edge - in 6H or in 7H, depending on the settings. JUP aspect here is beneficial, as he is in his own NK and also with a good shad-bala. The depositor of Rahu - can be either SUN, or MOON, and both are well placed - moon in house of sun and sun in house of Venus.

Saindhavi - Why do you feel Mars is not an issue here? Its solidly placed in 8H, aspecting 7L, and 2H, both relating to marriage / family.

Regards,
Arun

[ChandraLagna]

Pooja -
About success, doesn't it depend more on both the individuals? If there is mutual love, affection and trust, all the planets can go take a walk.

You have not even married and nurturing doubts about a future marriage's success is not the best approach.

Pray to Vishnu and things will all go fine.

Regards,
Arun

[tarun kukreja01]

Dear Sir,
Please read my chart and tell whats going on
In these days I am having a lot of mental pressure

my details are
dob 31/03/1983
time: 18:13 hrs
place: jaipur, rajasthan, india

please tell me why all this happening with me. I like a girl both our families were ready for our marriage. Than our kundali didnt match according to astrologers and girls family were against for our marriage but things changed in few days and comes in my favour and they again ready for our marriage but now they are again against for our marriage. I dont know whats going on what i have done why all this happening to me. Please read my chart and tell me when I will get married as I am already 28 now. I am worried about my marriage. I can add girls details also whom I wanted to marry. what you say will she is the girl god has sent for me.
details of girl:
Dob: 19th october,1989
time: 10:28 hrs
place: delhi, india

please help me
regards
Tarun

[Saindhavi]

Tarun,

Some learned astrologer here will certainly read your chart and will give you proper astrological guidance.

But astrology apart, just think about it - you both decided to marry each other. You are an adult of 28 years and she is an adult as well. So, why are you getting into this business of matching horoscopes and asking your family whether they allow the marriage or not?

Does this mean, that if your family doesn't agree, you won't get married to her? If you didn't have the conviction to marry her, why did you make this decision and lead her on to this path?

Just think about this - what happens if your family refuses once and for all? Will you leave her on her own to deal with her suffering all by herself?

Why don't you just go to a civil marriage registrar's office, apply for marriage registration and get married? After you get married, just inform your family you have got married. they will have no option but to accept your marriage.

I don't understand why so many Indian men first go after a girl and then decide to bring their family into the picture and go by what the family says. If you want to follow the family, why do you approach a girl in the first place on your own?

Contd below...

[rvenkats]

Dear Arun,

The area of concern I think will be Mo being the 6th lord present in the 7th house. He is not in an inimical house which makes him happier. Being in the 2nd from 6th house actually is far better than the 8th being in the 7th (bhavat bhavam) and with Guru's strong aspect there is a lot of alleviation to the -ve effects Mo can bring here. If Ra is indeed in the 6th house then it is definitely more better.

The Ma dosha is cancelled in the Navamsa (based on some posts that I read for I am no expert) and am not sure if that is enough to alleviate what is in the Rasi for typically Navamsa is what is used for marriage. Raman-ji has given the remedial solution that is powerful. At this point, the analysis is academic to understand the intricacies.

Regards,
Venkat
[quote="arunsg321"][quote="rvenkats"]Dear Saindhavi/arunsg321,

Thanks for your replies. The Ra position is indeed intriguing for me too. If I use true nodes and true positions in my calculation instead of mean nodes, actually Ra moves to the 6th house 28Cn47'22.91". In mean nodes usage it is in the 7th house. A powerful Ju aspect in the latter case is definitely a powerful positive point.

The lat/long specified by arun is correct but the Asc does come to Kumbha about 8 degrees. In case Ra is in 6th house then he is in Asresha 4t pada under Budhan while if in 7th house then he is ruled by a Ketu Nk - Magha.

Am I missing something here?

Regards,
venkat[/quote]

Venkats,

I now have used -5 hours instead of the -4. I have the same chart positions as you an Saindhavi.

Rahu is at the edge - in 6H or in 7H, depending on the settings. JUP aspect here is beneficial, as he is in his own NK and also with a good shad-bala. The depositor of Rahu - can be either SUN, or MOON, and both are well placed - moon in house of sun and sun in house of Venus.

Saindhavi - Why do you feel Mars is not an issue here? Its solidly placed in 8H, aspecting 7L, and 2H, both relating to marriage / family.

Regards,
Arun[/quote]

[Saindhavi]

Tarun,

To continue from my above post -

And to add to the complications, you also want to follow astrology.

What if the horoscopes don't match? Will you leave her to suffer and will you go and have an arranged marriage? Do you or should you have the right to do this?

I seriously want to ask this question - why do Indian men do this? If they don't have the courage to stand up to their family and go for a civil marriage, why do they approach a girl in the first place?

Because arranged marriage is an easy option always waiting for them and they want to have the best of both the worlds?

Why ask family and consult astrology after you have led a girl on this path?

Think about all this while you seek astrological help.

[tarun kukreja01]

Dear Sandhavi jee
I am totally agree with what you said but
if i marry her without getting permission with her parents do you think we will be happy for our life if our parents are not happy with us

if we take an action to marry in a civil court what about her parents how they show their face in society that her girl has taken this action

i love her from my whole heart and i care about her parents also as they are my parents too so i can not take any action thats leads to have trouble in their life

For me love means that I want her to be happy as any cost
she is the only daughter of her parents if she will take any action against her parents and what will happen if her parents will commit suside because of us

I love her and I know I am a good guy I want to get her with the permission of her parents. They also have to like to me as she like me

and this is happening we told our parents and her mother says me his son and loves me a lot but conditons are getting us in trouble. Just her decision doesnt counts.

I wish you understand my condition
do you suggest us to do marriage without acceptence of her parents

will this be right
Tarun

[Saindhavi]

Tarun,

I wouldn't be talking to you if I didn't think you were a good person at heart. I know you are a good person.

This is precisely the question I posed - why do men choose a girl first and then worry about parental approval etc? If parental approval matters so much, why not go for an arranged marriage and if you decide to choose a girl, why talk about parental approval after she gets emotionally attached to you? If you have made such a decision, you should have the courage to face the society and get married no matter who says what.

Remember, if you take a strong stand, no one will have the courage to say anything. People will talk only as long as they think you are a weak person.

And what is wrong with civil marriage? It's a secular democratic marriage approved by the Indian Constitution. By the way, if you don't know this, a registered marriage is the only legally valid marriage in India. The religious ceremony doesn't have any legal validity. So no matter which way you get married, do get it registered in the marriage registrar's office.

So I don't understand why suddenly when you have to take this bold step you worry more about what society will say and what family will say than about how she is attached to you.

You think she wouldn't be happy if you go for a civil marriage. And do you think she will be happy if you leave her because you didn't have the courage to face the society?

Have you ever seen how women's lives get wrecked in such cases?

Well, in this case, at least it looks as if her mother approves of your marriage to her. The situation is not as bad as I initially thought.

So, in answer to your question, yes, I suggest forget about astrology and what society will say etc. You have taken an independent decision about marriage, so follow it through completely.

Take her mother's support, file for a civil marriage registration and get married. Once you both are married, her father has to accept you and then both of you can go through a Hindu religious ceremony if you like.

I feel there is an ethical and moral obligation on you to get married to her, no matter what astrology says and what the society says.

[rashi]

DOB : 15 aug 1987 delhi 00:05 am

sir / ma'am

can anyone please tell how my married life will be and when ???

[tarun kukreja01]

thanks saindhivi jee for you support and guidence
I am ready to take any sort of decision to get her but i need her support and she is saying that she cant do anything now leave everything on god how i explain her that she has to be strong. I am strong because of her and if she is weak I can not do anything this I told her so many times. I am getting crazy what I do and how I act I think for me for her or her family her relatives everyone is coming in between. I passed everything what you had replied for my posts but I dont know whats her prirorities me or her family. I am here in france and she is in canada.

My love story is very difficult
If i am able to get her she will be the best gift from god to me
and after her I dont want anything from god
I dont know what to do but I just know I want her at any cost. I beleive in god and I know god is with me he will show me a way to get her and she will be mine