Kendra and Kona: special considerations

[aadi]

Thank you shilpa mam. I request you to take my chart in your posts whenever its in context with your post.

[ashtalakshmi]

Ma-Mo is chandra Mangal yoga....signifies wealth
Saturn-Venus signifies comfortable living...with less hurdles in life
Sun-Moon...signifies single minded determination of purpose and good fortune

regards

Thank you very much Shilpaji.

[justalearner]

Nice Informative Shilpaji.
Mine too is one of a chart of conjunctions with Ra-Ke acting as the Gatekeepers (North Gate-South Gate)

SU-ME-VE-MO conjunct
Sa-Ju conjunct

17-Oct-82
Kalyan,Maharashtra
2:46am

The one aspect I have always been worried about was that of the Gatekeeper KE in 4th from my Moon sign in 5th house.

Rgds,
JAL
- Keep learning and keep yearning to keep learning more...

--yes 4 planets are associated with the Nodes i.e Su, Mo, Ve and Me

creates a Mild Pitru-dosha the afflcition of Sun
a pitru-dosha pujan will help

but at the same time some very strong dhan yogas are formed

-Ra is 5-9 with Sa and Jup

--multiple associations means a complex mind sensitive to many variables / stimuli around you...and when planets are between the nodes invariably many associations gets formed...whihc are the reaosn for the comlexity and sensitivities in the personality.
Often times neo-commercial astrologers attribute this to Karp Sarp Yoga

regards

"complex mind sensitive to many variables / stimuli around you" - Bang On Shilpaji. Apt. words.

Rgds,
JAL
- Keep learning and keep yearning to keep learning more...[/quote]

[padmanabhanravi]

Dear Shilpaji, I have Mars-Saturn in kendra (4-10) & Mars-Ket (1-1), Mars-Mer (1-1). Would like to know how the recent Saturn transit will impact me especially when Saturn is also transiting Natal Mars/Ket/Mer.

DOB: 2nd November, 1965. Chennai 7.25am.

Bit worried about career prospects. Very much appreciate if you could provide some insights.

Thanks,
Ravi Padmanabhan.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Shilpa, what does Mars-Jupiter, Venus-Rahu, Venus-Jupiter, Mercury-Jupiter, Sun-Jupiter and Sun-Mercury combinations represent?

Thanks.

Khoo

[shilpa]

Shilpa, what does Mars-Jupiter, Venus-Rahu, Venus-Jupiter, Mercury-Jupiter, Sun-Jupiter and Sun-Mercury combinations represent?

Thanks.

Khoo

Dear Khoo,

1)Ma-Jup is guru-mangal yoga....a wealth yoga

2)Ve-Ra denotes passion (or even addiction)....which can be physical or mental depending on the house placement of Ve....Postive or negative depending on the nature of Ra for that chart

3) Ve-Jup denotes comforts / luxuries generally through professional endeavors and wisdom. But a natural conflict...native being pulled in opposite direction by materialism and spirituality at the same time .

4) Me-Jup is a known "Buddhi Yoga" or Intelligence yoga

5) Su-Me is Buddhaaditya or Nipuna yoga......implies high commonsense and practical nature

6) Su-Jup.....deeply religious with teaching / coaching skills

regards

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Thanks Shilpa.

[anuradha]

As per Jatak Bhranam Sun+Mercury The native is sweet voiced, become minister, accumulates wealth by doing much service, is skilled in the art and is a Pandit of Vedas. Sun +Jupiter The native is skilled in the work of family priest, become minister to the king,obtains wealth from the friend,is prosperous, learned, happy and fortunate. Moon+ Mars Devoid of good conduct, crooked, valorous, a trader, makes quarrels, opposes his mother and has pain due to having diseases. Mercury + Jupiter The native knows the essential nature of music, is polite, courteous,has all kind of happiness,is extremely handsome, has patience, is generous and loving perfumes.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Thanks Anuradha.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Shilpa

I have the Saturn+Jupiter combination because Moon goes from Capricorn where Saturn is posited behind it to Aquarius where my Jupiter posits. So it is a Yoga of Jupiter+Saturn when a fast moving planet (Moon) is between two slow moving planets.

What does the Saturn+Jupiter combination show?

(P.S. So far all my approaching Yogas are good including Venus+Rahu and those which you made reference to much earlier in the thread (Sun+Moon, Venus+Saturn and Moon+Jupiter) and the ones you replied to me just).

Best Regards
Hock Leong

[abhishek]

Dear Shilpa ji,

Thanks for the informative post.

Should we consider bhava chart to see planetry association? Like jup-mer are in 5-9 in bhava chart. But they are 4-10 in rashi chart.

Regards,
Abhishek

[shilpa]

Dear Shilpa ji,

Thanks for the informative post.

Should we consider bhava chart to see planetry association? Like jup-mer are in 5-9 in bhava chart. But they are 4-10 in rashi chart.

Regards,
Abhishek

this goes to the fundamental question on when to use Bhava chart vs. The Rasi chart.
The primary chart is the Rasi chart.
whatever yogas are seen in the rasi chart....if when moving to the bhava chat...they still remain...then they are strong yogas and will bear strong fructification.

If in Bhava chart newer yogas appear....then these do not over-ride the basic Rasi chart placements.

regards

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Shilpa

So what is the interpretation for Jupiter-Saturn combination? Curious to know.

Thanks.

Regards, Khoo

[ashtalakshmi]

Shilpa ji, just a quick question.

According to you the positive combinations of planets
Sun-Moon,
Sun-Jupiter
Sun-Mars
Moon-Mars
Jupiter-Mars
Jupiter-moon
Saturn-venus
Venus-moon
Venus-Rahu
etc gives similar effects when placed in 4-10 axis or 5-9 axis.So you mean to say 4-10 axis will push the
native to work hard to get the results and 5-9 axis gives the positive results even if the native doesnt try to work for it?

[abhishek]

this goes to the fundamental question on when to use Bhava chart vs. The Rasi chart.
The primary chart is the Rasi chart.
whatever yogas are seen in the rasi chart....if when moving to the bhava chat...they still remain...then they are strong yogas and will bear strong fructification.

If in Bhava chart newer yogas appear....then these do not over-ride the basic Rasi chart placements.

regards

Thanks for the quick reply.

[hiimnotcool]

very interesting shilpa ji!

this means almost all of the planets in my horoscope are associated with each other! rahu in 1st house..., venus, mercury and mars in 4th house,.... saturn and ketu in 7th house and jupiter in 10th house... all the while sun is in 5th house and moon in 11th house which creates connections with the 1st house and 7th house respectively.

very confusing lol...makes sense why i'm a complicated person!

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Like I PM to Shilpa, her delineations are one of the best.

It is not that I do not subscribe to the principle that effects can never cancel other effects out, but sometimes it takes research to make the correct overall delineation of a chart or even come up with sub-principles that are refreshing because classics deal with one sub-principle at a time in a raw state and that is why there are so many classics to choose from.

Anyway, Ashtalakshmi, if there are a lot of planets in dharma houses the person does not have to work. The Ashtakavarga principle actually cashed in on this when calculating bindus on dharmic houses. Here the 5th-9th relationship is more like little gifts somewhat like those given by D27. The other way is through Yogas (not the simple Yogas discussed in this thread involving combination of 2 planets) like for example Parijatha Yoga, the yoga of the coral wishing tree.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Shilpa replied.

She takes from classics verbatim but interpret it in a modern context and validate it across many charts. This is one way of going about the research process. All her delineations are very apt.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

And of course there are many sources of classics to choose from for a start. And I suppose only with experience you will know which classic to go for for the first instance for various topics.

For me the way I do it is I will take the classic as the gospel truth and try to fit into an intuitive logic My method can come up with some conclusions which is exotic but nevertheless still true.

And the last method would be just to take whatever the classics say and stop there. Usually there wil be some dovetailing from various sources but that's about it. This method has the advatage that nothing gets amended that are taken from the classics.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

The 4th way of doing it is to write Vedic Astrology with the inspiration of God from various classical or modern sources including various scriptures and not just astrological texts. Newsletter articles can be included as well. Here you can come up with totally new ideas not mentioned at all from any other sources. I find this the most creative with the help from God.

[amitns]

Hi khoo

Not sure what you meant by this

Anyway, Ashtalakshmi, if there are a lot of planets in dharma houses the person does not have to work

I have almost all planets in kona (1-5-9) but i had to work very hard to achieve small things..

Did i get you wrong or maybe other things impact as well


regards

Amit

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Can I have your birth details?

A lot of other factors can intervene like the placement of the 5th and 9th lord, are the natural benefics sitting side by side with natural malefics, the configuration of the 4th house, the Ascendant of your chart which may render some combinations of trines ineffective, the dasas you experience so far, the arista yogas you have etc.

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Also the bindus you acquire for dharmic houses in comparison for the Moksha, kama and karma houses? This method is documented in C S Patel's book when he dicusses how to use Ashtakavarga for prediction purposes without using transit analysis en route.

[amitns]

Its 24 Oct 1974 15:12 hrs Thane Maharashtra india

Amit

[babaji77]

some examples.....
chart-1; 9jun, 1972, lucknow, 11:55am

Ra-Moon are in 4-10 to each otehr to each other and the native is perpetually high strung, driven by anxiety and lived / traveled extensively in foreign lands.
since Ra is known to create this fear / anxiety on the mind when in conncetion with moon
and Ra-Moon both are karaks of foreign lands / long distance overseas travels


chart:2--aug8, 1970, 7:51am, Lucknow

look at the shani-moon 4-10 to each other, both debilitated and the best periods of growth and material prosperity for this native have come in the antaras of Mars and Saturn

Dear Shilpaji,
For the chart with DOB 1970 Lucknow (SA-Mar in 4-10axis to each other) can please help me understand if this person is in buying/selling bussiness mainly properties? during Jup-Mars, Jup-mer, Jup moon has he acquired properties or may be that sold one and bought another.
thanks for your response
regards