So true - secluded life is the word. Same case with me - once a week or two weeks I speak to my mother. Otherwise, I do not have friends, no relations with neighbours or anyone at office. As it is, brits are so reclusive, they never bother you even with a "Hi". Perfect seclusion.
- Satya
Re: Kemadruma Yoga
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Yes, the only difference is you have your mother, but that makes lot of difference, if you have mother, her love is so great that u dont need anyone else in the world. This statement may be too strong, you may need others to some extent but mother's love is the best and so when u have that, she can console u if others hurt u or if you are in trouble. But in her absence, noone can really console u.
Dev
Dev
One main feature is being bereft of wealth - did any of you experience financial hardships any time during your life time?
Hi SatyaI guess Moon without any support on either side has less expectations - all through the time I lived with bare minimum, I never turned away from hardships. Resigned acceptance.
I have this yog & I have really been experiencing all of this fo quite some time now. Ju & Sa does aspect the moon so it ensures I do get food at the end of the day I guess. but in general im a loner & enjoy solitude
Rgds
Spring
What about the following chart. She has exalted moon in lagna. Mars is in kendra and sun is in kendra in bhava chalit chart. is it kemadruma bhanga.?
13th november 1981
06:11 pm
Jaipur, Rajasthan
13th november 1981
06:11 pm
Jaipur, Rajasthan
All People laugh on me because I am Different but I laugh on them because They all are Same. This is my attitude. So "Think Different, Do Different and Be Different"!
Hi all,
thanks for providing such good information abt kemudaram yaga.
Can u take my kundli as an example as i have such yoga. no planet in either side of moon.
Jignesh, 17-11-1977, 17-00, jamnagar, gujarat.
I have a moon alone in 10th place but its in kendra. so will this kemudaram yoga provide bad effect on me. also i have mars in 4th place. so parivartan yog created.
Right now i have a guru dasha guru placed in 3rd so watching 9th which is empty. 10 moon 11 empty and 12 having ketu.
I want to share my exp i have a good job till march-2010 but situation created so i left my permanent job and sign a contract on project. but project delayed and have more confusion so i lost my job.
After that i felt very lonely although wealth wise i dont find any problem but problem is that i am single and without work i cant get married.
So can anybody say on this experience. plz.
thanks for providing such good information abt kemudaram yaga.
Can u take my kundli as an example as i have such yoga. no planet in either side of moon.
Jignesh, 17-11-1977, 17-00, jamnagar, gujarat.
I have a moon alone in 10th place but its in kendra. so will this kemudaram yoga provide bad effect on me. also i have mars in 4th place. so parivartan yog created.
Right now i have a guru dasha guru placed in 3rd so watching 9th which is empty. 10 moon 11 empty and 12 having ketu.
I want to share my exp i have a good job till march-2010 but situation created so i left my permanent job and sign a contract on project. but project delayed and have more confusion so i lost my job.
After that i felt very lonely although wealth wise i dont find any problem but problem is that i am single and without work i cant get married.
So can anybody say on this experience. plz.
Kemadruma Yoga can be actually good if
- you have some regular, well entrenched habits - like reading books, watching tv, internet browsing, gardening, fishing ..... where solitude is actually needed
- you don't really mind not having the benefits accruing from having a lot of friends (popularity), a lot of contacts (getting some things done quickly),
- you don't mind being perceived a loner, introvert (negatively seen by people with no fault of urs),
- you don't mind being disadvantaged
Don't mistake me - but Jail life can be made the best use of, by Kemadruma people. Remember the great freedom fighters? They used to read and write a lot in Jail. Great works of Gandhiji and Nehru were written in the Jail.....
where as in the case of a non-kemadruma person, Jail life can be the worst kind of hell...
- you have some regular, well entrenched habits - like reading books, watching tv, internet browsing, gardening, fishing ..... where solitude is actually needed
- you don't really mind not having the benefits accruing from having a lot of friends (popularity), a lot of contacts (getting some things done quickly),
- you don't mind being perceived a loner, introvert (negatively seen by people with no fault of urs),
- you don't mind being disadvantaged
Don't mistake me - but Jail life can be made the best use of, by Kemadruma people. Remember the great freedom fighters? They used to read and write a lot in Jail. Great works of Gandhiji and Nehru were written in the Jail.....
where as in the case of a non-kemadruma person, Jail life can be the worst kind of hell...
Hari:
You said
in the case of a non-kemadruma person, Jail life can be the worst kind of hell
It is not true since nonkemadruma person will find friends in jail also, all cocriminals will become his friends.
I agree that with kemadruma yoga, a person need to have some independent capabilities to make his life peaceful and worthy. In my case for eg, I am a classical singer and play instruments and so this is handy for me. i immediately start singing or playing instrument when I feel isolated. Of course listening to slokas, chanting slokas, going to temples are other things which help apart from watching TV(which of course is not a satvic one.
Dev
You said
in the case of a non-kemadruma person, Jail life can be the worst kind of hell
It is not true since nonkemadruma person will find friends in jail also, all cocriminals will become his friends.
I agree that with kemadruma yoga, a person need to have some independent capabilities to make his life peaceful and worthy. In my case for eg, I am a classical singer and play instruments and so this is handy for me. i immediately start singing or playing instrument when I feel isolated. Of course listening to slokas, chanting slokas, going to temples are other things which help apart from watching TV(which of course is not a satvic one.
Dev
Hi all,
Again waiting weather i have kemudaram yoga ?
thanks for providing such good information abt kemudaram yaga.
Can u take my kundli as an example as i have such yoga. no planet in either side of moon.
Jignesh, 17-11-1977, 17-00, jamnagar, gujarat.
I have a moon alone in 10th place but its in kendra. so will this kemudaram yoga provide bad effect on me. also i have mars in 4th place. so parivartan yog created.
Right now i have a guru dasha guru placed in 3rd so watching 9th which is empty. 10 moon 11 empty and 12 having ketu.
I want to share my exp i have a good job till march-2010 but situation created so i left my permanent job and sign a contract on project. but project delayed and have more confusion so i lost my job.
After that i felt very lonely although wealth wise i dont find any problem but problem is that i am single and without work i cant get married.
So can anybody say on this experience. plz.
Again waiting weather i have kemudaram yoga ?
thanks for providing such good information abt kemudaram yaga.
Can u take my kundli as an example as i have such yoga. no planet in either side of moon.
Jignesh, 17-11-1977, 17-00, jamnagar, gujarat.
I have a moon alone in 10th place but its in kendra. so will this kemudaram yoga provide bad effect on me. also i have mars in 4th place. so parivartan yog created.
Right now i have a guru dasha guru placed in 3rd so watching 9th which is empty. 10 moon 11 empty and 12 having ketu.
I want to share my exp i have a good job till march-2010 but situation created so i left my permanent job and sign a contract on project. but project delayed and have more confusion so i lost my job.
After that i felt very lonely although wealth wise i dont find any problem but problem is that i am single and without work i cant get married.
So can anybody say on this experience. plz.
Dear astrologers:
In my bhava chart, mars is in the second house. In rasi, I have 7 planets in makara, moon in vrishchika lagna and rahu in kataka. Now taking bhava chart into consideration, I have mars second from moon, so does it cancel the effects of kemadruma yoga. I have already been experiencing it though but I would feel relaxed if there is a cancellation since I dont like isolation as such unless I am working seriously on something.
Dev
In my bhava chart, mars is in the second house. In rasi, I have 7 planets in makara, moon in vrishchika lagna and rahu in kataka. Now taking bhava chart into consideration, I have mars second from moon, so does it cancel the effects of kemadruma yoga. I have already been experiencing it though but I would feel relaxed if there is a cancellation since I dont like isolation as such unless I am working seriously on something.
Dev
Dev,in the case of a non-kemadruma person, Jail life can be the worst kind of hell
It is not true since nonkemadruma person will find friends in jail also, all cocriminals will become his friends.
What I was trying to convey is, for a non-kemadruma person, to sit in the restricted environment of the Jail when compared to the freedom of the outside world can be mentally taxing. As we know hell is not as much as in external circumstances, as in the mind. Such a non-kemadruma person may not even make friends in Jail..as it can be a very depressing experience.
Whereas for the Kemadruma person, he has been used to the situation much more. At least inwardly. So the absence of friends/other contacts need not affect him as much. Again there are a lot of 'ifs and buts'. But as you can see, I am trying to project maximum positives of the situation
I'm not a singer but for me too, chanting slokas, visiting places on travel (but always alone), have helped reduce the burden of 'solitude'. I like doing household work with some soft TV/Radio programs playing in the background. Think of getting companionship from the TV!
If the 'excess alone time' can be devoted wisely, the ups and downs in mental life, and in the relationship with others, can give rise to a profound detachment with the material life I guess. In the long run, it will do a lot of good to us.
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Dear Dev,
Just happened to see your h/cope. Yours is very unique, with such a lot of planets clustered around in a single place. I can quite understand how you feel, with the kemadruma yoga. But I feel discussion forums like this can get the best out of people like you and me...
Cheers
Hari
Just happened to see your h/cope. Yours is very unique, with such a lot of planets clustered around in a single place. I can quite understand how you feel, with the kemadruma yoga. But I feel discussion forums like this can get the best out of people like you and me...
Cheers
Hari
Ambjig,ambjig wrote:Hi all,
Again waiting weather i have kemudaram yoga ?
If planets in Kendra the kemadruma yoga effects will get much reduced. But I feel it will still come up in specific periods. From your own experience till now, you can see if you have experienced some of the indications discussed above. Some astrologers suggest worshipping Chamundi with the Navakshari mantra as a cure for kemadruma yoga.
Hi Hari:
What I meant by saying is that nonkemadruma people will definitely find some company in jail. This I say because of the confidence I have on astrology and not on the criminals. Kemadruma people may not find a company there too. Yes, when you have inherent talents like music, drawing, tailoring and so on, it definitely helps. Anyway man is a social animal and noone would definitely prefer to be so. May be this forum chat also helps kemadruma people.
Yes my horoscope is unique. It is difficult for prediction too.
Dev
What I meant by saying is that nonkemadruma people will definitely find some company in jail. This I say because of the confidence I have on astrology and not on the criminals. Kemadruma people may not find a company there too. Yes, when you have inherent talents like music, drawing, tailoring and so on, it definitely helps. Anyway man is a social animal and noone would definitely prefer to be so. May be this forum chat also helps kemadruma people.
Yes my horoscope is unique. It is difficult for prediction too.
Dev
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Dear friends,
Does KY occurs next generation as well? my friend has KY ( 26.03.59; 9.21am kanpur,UP) his son and daughter as well are having KY ( 14.10.84; 18.50pm Delhi & 19.01.92, 21.07pm Kolkata) very well off, happy and off late started feeling lonely.
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Aditya
Does KY occurs next generation as well? my friend has KY ( 26.03.59; 9.21am kanpur,UP) his son and daughter as well are having KY ( 14.10.84; 18.50pm Delhi & 19.01.92, 21.07pm Kolkata) very well off, happy and off late started feeling lonely.
regards
Aditya
Dear all,
Many of us have reported loneliness as a result of this yoga. It's natural that we will have to face it in varying degrees. The question however is, how to make the most of what fate has dealt to us.
I suggest that you read the conversation between King Yadu and the Avadhuta Brahmana in 11th Skandha of Sreemad Bhagavatham.
The Avadhuta talks about the 24 Gurus from whom he learnt wisdom. There's the story of a Kumari which tells us why solitude is better. I'm sure it will give you a new way of looking at your solitude.
We need to beware lest solitude pushes us into depression. One of my acquaintances faced this problem and even seriously thought about committing suicide, finding life worthless. Luckily he happened to read the book "Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna" which took him out of depression and gave renewed zest for a spiritual life. Bhagavan Sri Ramakrishna (Thakur) was an incarnation of Sri Rama and Sri Krishna. If we keep a copy of the above book as well as another book "Tales and Parables of Sri Ramakrishna" ready at hand and read from it daily, I'm SURE we would not be haunted by evil thoughts. Two more books that gell very well with them are "Lectures from Colombo to Almora - by Swami Vivekananda" and none other than our "Bhagavad Gita".
The above is just a friendly suggestion as I have myself faced and am still facing loneliness a lot.
Many of us have reported loneliness as a result of this yoga. It's natural that we will have to face it in varying degrees. The question however is, how to make the most of what fate has dealt to us.
I suggest that you read the conversation between King Yadu and the Avadhuta Brahmana in 11th Skandha of Sreemad Bhagavatham.
The Avadhuta talks about the 24 Gurus from whom he learnt wisdom. There's the story of a Kumari which tells us why solitude is better. I'm sure it will give you a new way of looking at your solitude.
We need to beware lest solitude pushes us into depression. One of my acquaintances faced this problem and even seriously thought about committing suicide, finding life worthless. Luckily he happened to read the book "Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna" which took him out of depression and gave renewed zest for a spiritual life. Bhagavan Sri Ramakrishna (Thakur) was an incarnation of Sri Rama and Sri Krishna. If we keep a copy of the above book as well as another book "Tales and Parables of Sri Ramakrishna" ready at hand and read from it daily, I'm SURE we would not be haunted by evil thoughts. Two more books that gell very well with them are "Lectures from Colombo to Almora - by Swami Vivekananda" and none other than our "Bhagavad Gita".
The above is just a friendly suggestion as I have myself faced and am still facing loneliness a lot.
Dear all.
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# Kemadruma yoga: There are no planets in either the twelfth or the second house calculated from the Moon. Other planets do not support the functions of the Moon. The person will feel lonely and lead a rather difficult life. There are many ways in which this difficult yoga can be neutralised. An example: should the Moon be in either a kendra or a trikona house, in conjunction with another planet or being aspected by Jupiter this yoga will be greatly neutralised.
Gandhi had Kemadruma yoga in his horoscope, because there are no planets in either the twelfth or the second house calculated from the Moon. However, the Moon is in the tenth house (a kendra house). This greatly neutralises the Kemadruma yoga.
http://www.dirah.org/yogas.htm
F>y>I>
# Kemadruma yoga: There are no planets in either the twelfth or the second house calculated from the Moon. Other planets do not support the functions of the Moon. The person will feel lonely and lead a rather difficult life. There are many ways in which this difficult yoga can be neutralised. An example: should the Moon be in either a kendra or a trikona house, in conjunction with another planet or being aspected by Jupiter this yoga will be greatly neutralised.
Gandhi had Kemadruma yoga in his horoscope, because there are no planets in either the twelfth or the second house calculated from the Moon. However, the Moon is in the tenth house (a kendra house). This greatly neutralises the Kemadruma yoga.
http://www.dirah.org/yogas.htm
Hello:
Yes, I have the Kemadruma yoga in my horoscope, because there are no planets in either the twelfth or the second house calculated from the Lagna and Moon since moon is in Lagna. However, as the Moon is in the lagna , (a kendra and kona house). this greatly neutralises the Kemadruma yoga.
Dev
Yes, I have the Kemadruma yoga in my horoscope, because there are no planets in either the twelfth or the second house calculated from the Lagna and Moon since moon is in Lagna. However, as the Moon is in the lagna , (a kendra and kona house). this greatly neutralises the Kemadruma yoga.
Dev
Hi Dev,
This yoga calculated from moon only not from lagna :- There are no planets in either the twelfth or the second house calculated from the Moon.
Like gandhiji i have moon in 10 kendra with no planet in either side. But doesnt mean i have kemudram yog.
Because as calculated from moon 10 position in 2nd position i have a ketu at 12. And at 12th position no planet.
Jig 17-11-1977, 17-00, jamnagar, gujarat.
Hope this will helpful to all.
Reg
jig
This yoga calculated from moon only not from lagna :- There are no planets in either the twelfth or the second house calculated from the Moon.
Like gandhiji i have moon in 10 kendra with no planet in either side. But doesnt mean i have kemudram yog.
Because as calculated from moon 10 position in 2nd position i have a ketu at 12. And at 12th position no planet.
Jig 17-11-1977, 17-00, jamnagar, gujarat.
Hope this will helpful to all.
Reg
jig
Hi Jig:
One definition given is as follows"
Kemadruma yoga
When there is no planets on either side of the moon, kemadruma yoga is formed.Kemadruma yoga will give a persons poverty. It will get cancell if a planet is occupied in Kendra from the chandra lagna or natal lagna.
So from lagna chandra himself is in kendra and so gets cancelled. Further moon is not alone, it is with lagna. So I feel it is somewhat cancelled.
Also read the following, sun, ketu and rahu are not considered, so if they are there, kemadruma yoga is still operative.
Kemadruma yoga is a dreaded yoga that is said to turn the fortunes drastically from riches to rags. This yoga arises when there are no planets on either side of the moon. The commonly accepted version of this yoga is the absence of any planets – the sun and the nodes are excluded in the reckoning – on the adjacent signs to the moon. According to Mantreshwara, “One born under the Kemadruma yoga, even if he belongs to the royal family will become unknown and lead a miserable life.†Varahamihira adds that a person born under Kemadruma, “although he may take his birth in a royal family, will be dirty, sorrowful, doing work against his caste, poor, dependent and roguish†Almost all ancient writers have recorded this kind of effect for this yoga.
Further, see this information which I got in the web, which cancels kemadruma yoga
rules for cancellation of Kemadruma yogas:
.. Lone moon but in a friendly house, or own house, own Navamsa and
aspected by Jupiter.
.. Lone Moon but in a kendra from ascendant and aspected by Jupiter.
.. Presence of Vasumati yoga i.e. all benefics placed in Oopachayas 3,
6,10, 11 from Lagna or Moon cancels Kema druma and Makes the person
extremely Wealthy.
.. Lalatika Yoga :- Lone Moon in Cancer and8th from it occupied by
Sun,Mars, Venus, Saturn
OR
Vice versa Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn in cancer and lone Moon in 8th
from them Results in cancellation of Kemadruma and proficiency in
fine arts and very rich.
.. Jupiter in a kendra from moon cancels Kemadruma yoga.
Even when Kemadruma yoga is present the following factors reduce the
intensity of the yoga:
Moon in 3,6,9,12
Moon in 1,4, 7, 10
Moon in Cancer or Taurus
Commonly if there are planets especially benefics in kendras from
moon, using lagna or moonchart the kemudrama yoga gets cancelled..
Also if benefics aspect the moon, cancellation occurs..
I have all benefics in upachaya in 3rd house and that should help.
Dev
One definition given is as follows"
Kemadruma yoga
When there is no planets on either side of the moon, kemadruma yoga is formed.Kemadruma yoga will give a persons poverty. It will get cancell if a planet is occupied in Kendra from the chandra lagna or natal lagna.
So from lagna chandra himself is in kendra and so gets cancelled. Further moon is not alone, it is with lagna. So I feel it is somewhat cancelled.
Also read the following, sun, ketu and rahu are not considered, so if they are there, kemadruma yoga is still operative.
Kemadruma yoga is a dreaded yoga that is said to turn the fortunes drastically from riches to rags. This yoga arises when there are no planets on either side of the moon. The commonly accepted version of this yoga is the absence of any planets – the sun and the nodes are excluded in the reckoning – on the adjacent signs to the moon. According to Mantreshwara, “One born under the Kemadruma yoga, even if he belongs to the royal family will become unknown and lead a miserable life.†Varahamihira adds that a person born under Kemadruma, “although he may take his birth in a royal family, will be dirty, sorrowful, doing work against his caste, poor, dependent and roguish†Almost all ancient writers have recorded this kind of effect for this yoga.
Further, see this information which I got in the web, which cancels kemadruma yoga
rules for cancellation of Kemadruma yogas:
.. Lone moon but in a friendly house, or own house, own Navamsa and
aspected by Jupiter.
.. Lone Moon but in a kendra from ascendant and aspected by Jupiter.
.. Presence of Vasumati yoga i.e. all benefics placed in Oopachayas 3,
6,10, 11 from Lagna or Moon cancels Kema druma and Makes the person
extremely Wealthy.
.. Lalatika Yoga :- Lone Moon in Cancer and8th from it occupied by
Sun,Mars, Venus, Saturn
OR
Vice versa Sun, Mars, Venus, Saturn in cancer and lone Moon in 8th
from them Results in cancellation of Kemadruma and proficiency in
fine arts and very rich.
.. Jupiter in a kendra from moon cancels Kemadruma yoga.
Even when Kemadruma yoga is present the following factors reduce the
intensity of the yoga:
Moon in 3,6,9,12
Moon in 1,4, 7, 10
Moon in Cancer or Taurus
Commonly if there are planets especially benefics in kendras from
moon, using lagna or moonchart the kemudrama yoga gets cancelled..
Also if benefics aspect the moon, cancellation occurs..
I have all benefics in upachaya in 3rd house and that should help.
Dev
Hi Dev,
Thanks for information,
My concern is only that gandhiji having moon at 10 with kemudaram yoga but in 10 place and in kendra.
Same way i have a 10 moon and in kendra i accept ketu cant be calculated while kemudram yog.
I just want to check as me and gandhiji having moon at 10th place with kendra. what are the smiler in between.
Reg
jig
Thanks for information,
My concern is only that gandhiji having moon at 10 with kemudaram yoga but in 10 place and in kendra.
Same way i have a 10 moon and in kendra i accept ketu cant be calculated while kemudram yog.
I just want to check as me and gandhiji having moon at 10th place with kendra. what are the smiler in between.
Reg
jig
