Continued...
As you have shared a story, I would also like to share a mythological story, which will say how destiny is predestined, and the efforts we put are also actually predestined:
Once Garud, the vahana of Vishnu, when he came flying to Vishnu's abode, saw that Lord Yama, the God of Death, was coming out of the entrance to Vishnu's abode. Lord Yama after coming out of the gate, stopped a second, looked down in astonishment, and then, walked out. Garuda looked down where Lord Yama had looked and saw a sparrow sitting there, very frightened. He asked the sparrow why it was so afraid? The sparrow said the way Lord Yama looked at her, she was really scared and was worried that her time of death has come. Garuda told the sparrow not to worry. He was Lord Vishun's vahana, and he will protect her from lord of Death, Yama. So he asked the sparrow to sit on his back, and he would take her very far from there in the Vindhyachal mountains and hide her there, and no one will be able to find her. The journey took Garuda 2 minutes when it would have taken any other bird a very long time.
After hiding the sparrow in the mountains, Garuda returned to Lord Vishnu's abode and saw Lord Yama standing nearby. He told Lord Yama that he can't kill the sparrow now because he had hidden her in the Vindhayachal mountains, where it would be impossible for him to find her. Lord Yama then said, amazing is Lord Vishnu's play. His own vahana has carried the sparrow to the place, where it is destined to die. He said that when he saw the sparrow in front of the gates of Vishnu, he wondered how what is destined would happen as 3 minutes from then, the sparrow was to die in the Vindhyachal mountains, and to reach that place that sparrow would take a long long time, but lord Vishnu made the impossible possible by making Garuda, his vahana, to carry the sparrow, to the place where she was supposed to die, in 2 minutes times, so that death happened exactly at the time predicted and exactly at the place predicted. Garuda was shocked to hear that instead of saving the sparrow he had actually taken her to the place where she was going to die. So you see the efforts that someone takes also happens as per God's will, and it leads to what is destined.
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Basab
rishirahul,rishirahul wrote:Maybe basab can try to apply his intelligence well to better his life.
I think I am intelligent enough to understand this that applying my intelligence to better my life, will not make it better, unless that is how it is destined for me.
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dreamsunlimited wrote:Thanks for the appreciation, RishiRahul.
What is Paka lagna? Sorry but I hardly know about astrological terms.
Hi,
Paka lagna is where the lagna lord is placed in the vedic birthchart. This is where one will be needed/required to apply HIS/HER INTELLIGENCE judiciously in this lifetime.
Destiny will need the intelligence to be devoted in those areas.
We spend most of our life thinking how curses from past life affects us... about past karma.
I try not to bother about these areas too much..simply because we are in the present, and we cannot undo the past life.
If it does exist we cannot go back there to undo it.
It is THIS life which we can play/toy with.
Thank you,
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Basab wrote:rishirahul,rishirahul wrote:Maybe basab can try to apply his intelligence well to better his life.
I think I am intelligent enough to understand this that applying my intelligence to better my life, will not make it better, unless that is how it is destined for me.
Hi basab,
You are certainly intelligent; but there is a book by 'Norman Vincent Peale' called 'The power of positive thinking'.
The above book has worked wonders for many. Even the Vedas say that there is something called 'Free will".
I think everyone need some positive application of the FREE WILL through POSITIVE THINKING'.
Rishiahul
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dreamsunlimited
Basab ji, very true. It is not a universal rule to be applicable for everyone. I can connect only few of the events of my life until my present, I am not aware of future that lies ahead.
Birth chart is map of one's life definitely, but where do you get such interpretation wherein all the astrological methods give one conclusion to the same chart and who is learned enough to apply all the principles when astrology is such a vast subject. I would like to ask you, can you connect your successes, joys, happiness and miseries as per your chart. Has anyone given you such revelation beforehand? Do you have your story with you?
Yes... very true. God's will is supreme. But what I was saying is one should keep on putting his/ her efforts, doing his/ her part, irrespective of the fact whether s/he gets success or failure. Rest is God's will.
Basab ji, you are sidelining the whole concept. Yes, of course, it is very easy for one to waste time in life but hard is to make something out of it. Sometimes, even a diamond is left undiscovered in a mine. This can happen in ignorance only. When you should take your chart predictions as a source of courage and putting efforts, you are taking it otherwise by leaving it onto destiny to shower success on you. Well, if you have that in stores, you will surely get it. You will definitely one day put your effort to get what you deserve.
At the end I can only say, nothing can happen without effort, even writing a reply to this post.
Birth chart is map of one's life definitely, but where do you get such interpretation wherein all the astrological methods give one conclusion to the same chart and who is learned enough to apply all the principles when astrology is such a vast subject. I would like to ask you, can you connect your successes, joys, happiness and miseries as per your chart. Has anyone given you such revelation beforehand? Do you have your story with you?
Yes... very true. God's will is supreme. But what I was saying is one should keep on putting his/ her efforts, doing his/ her part, irrespective of the fact whether s/he gets success or failure. Rest is God's will.
Basab ji, you are sidelining the whole concept. Yes, of course, it is very easy for one to waste time in life but hard is to make something out of it. Sometimes, even a diamond is left undiscovered in a mine. This can happen in ignorance only. When you should take your chart predictions as a source of courage and putting efforts, you are taking it otherwise by leaving it onto destiny to shower success on you. Well, if you have that in stores, you will surely get it. You will definitely one day put your effort to get what you deserve.
At the end I can only say, nothing can happen without effort, even writing a reply to this post.
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Basab Ji,
Well analysed. About sagi lagna, not only it is a house of religion, it is also a house of fortune. They also may have more helpful father and birth surroundings positive as well. Ofcourse this applies provided jup/sun is well placed. But I have noticed in many charts that even if sun in deb, they have more than ordinary share of luck.
Now let us leave that comparison. You are as unique as aseem. As for venus in 8th house,my view is every house in a chart reflects a positive as well as negative side. About saturn restricting venus in your chart, I think there must be a need for that. It would turn out to be very good in a long run.
Your moon period will be good, is still my opinion!
When the dasa change from venus to sun, I hope your health would improve. If anything I find worthful in astrology is this Dasa chiddra!
Well analysed. About sagi lagna, not only it is a house of religion, it is also a house of fortune. They also may have more helpful father and birth surroundings positive as well. Ofcourse this applies provided jup/sun is well placed. But I have noticed in many charts that even if sun in deb, they have more than ordinary share of luck.
Now let us leave that comparison. You are as unique as aseem. As for venus in 8th house,my view is every house in a chart reflects a positive as well as negative side. About saturn restricting venus in your chart, I think there must be a need for that. It would turn out to be very good in a long run.
Your moon period will be good, is still my opinion!
When the dasa change from venus to sun, I hope your health would improve. If anything I find worthful in astrology is this Dasa chiddra!
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dreamsunlimited
Basab ji, death is eternal truth anyway. Here we are talking about life, hard work, intelligence, charts and predictions etc.Basab wrote:Continued...
As you have shared a story, I would also like to share a mythological story, which will say how destiny is predestined, and the efforts we put are also actually predestined:
Once Garud, the vahana of Vishnu, when he came flying to Vishnu's abode, saw that Lord Yama, the God of Death, was coming out of the entrance to Vishnu's abode. Lord Yama after coming out of the gate, stopped a second, looked down in astonishment, and then, walked out. Garuda looked down where Lord Yama had looked and saw a sparrow sitting there, very frightened. He asked the sparrow why it was so afraid? The sparrow said the way Lord Yama looked at her, she was really scared and was worried that her time of death has come. Garuda told the sparrow not to worry. He was Lord Vishun's vahana, and he will protect her from lord of Death, Yama. So he asked the sparrow to sit on his back, and he would take her very far from there in the Vindhyachal mountains and hide her there, and no one will be able to find her. The journey took Garuda 2 minutes when it would have taken any other bird a very long time.
After hiding the sparrow in the mountains, Garuda returned to Lord Vishnu's abode and saw Lord Yama standing nearby. He told Lord Yama that he can't kill the sparrow now because he had hidden her in the Vindhayachal mountains, where it would be impossible for him to find her. Lord Yama then said, amazing is Lord Vishnu's play. His own vahana has carried the sparrow to the place, where it is destined to die. He said that when he saw the sparrow in front of the gates of Vishnu, he wondered how what is destined would happen as 3 minutes from then, the sparrow was to die in the Vindhyachal mountains, and to reach that place that sparrow would take a long long time, but lord Vishnu made the impossible possible by making Garuda, his vahana, to carry the sparrow, to the place where she was supposed to die, in 2 minutes times, so that death happened exactly at the time predicted and exactly at the place predicted. Garuda was shocked to hear that instead of saving the sparrow he had actually taken her to the place where she was going to die. So you see the efforts that someone takes also happens as per God's will, and it leads to what is destined.
Moreover, no one has seen that sparrow's birth chart so that we may agree on what was predicted and what had happened.
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Basab
Rishirahul,
Thank you for telling me about the book. I am sure, positive thinking has helped many in the world, but then, I am not a believer of that. I am happy with my belief that everything is predestined, and so when things don't go my way, I accept it more gracefully than someone who believe in free will will be able to.
I don't know how Vedas can have contradictions because my dad says that he remembers reading this line, 'destiny is predestined' in a magazine, which, according to the magazine, was quoted from the Vedas.
Thank you for telling me about the book. I am sure, positive thinking has helped many in the world, but then, I am not a believer of that. I am happy with my belief that everything is predestined, and so when things don't go my way, I accept it more gracefully than someone who believe in free will will be able to.
I don't know how Vedas can have contradictions because my dad says that he remembers reading this line, 'destiny is predestined' in a magazine, which, according to the magazine, was quoted from the Vedas.
rishirahul wrote:Hi basab,
You are certainly intelligent; but there is a book by 'Norman Vincent Peale' called 'The power of positive thinking'.
The above book has worked wonders for many. Even the Vedas say that there is something called 'Free will".
I think everyone need some positive application of the FREE WILL through POSITIVE THINKING'.
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Basab
Dream,
Anupamji once told me here on lova that he will show me my future, and I refused to see it. So you can see, I am not comfortable about knowing my future. I never took up astrology to know my chart, I took it up just as a subject of interest and because I had a lot of time to kill.
If you are locked up in a room, you will shout a few times, asking someone to open the door, and if that doesn't work, you will bang the door of the room a few times, then, you will try some other way to get out of the room, but then, when you find no help and no way to escape, you will get tired and go and sit back in a corner of the room, keeping quiet. Isn't it what any person would do? So after repeated failures each and every person surrenders to destiny as there is no other option left for him, and he takes this decision with a logical mind.
I am not interested in knowing my future. Aseem has got his Nadi reading done, and as per him, everything has turned correct for him so far. He asked me whether I would like to do it. He gave me the phone number of the place and said that he would enquire if it could be done through telephone. I told him that I am not interested in knowing because who knows, they may tell me that I will never suceed in life, they may tell me that I will die tomorrow only, or they may give some other tragic prediction for me, and knowing that it will come true, how will I accept that? Isn't it better that way to not know about my future and go ahead in life? That's why I don't take interest in knowing about what lies in my future. I am happy to move ahead in life with no idea of the future than know what lies in every step ahead for me.Birth chart is map of one's life definitely, but where do you get such interpretation wherein all the astrological methods give one conclusion to the same chart and who is learned enough to apply all the principles when astrology is such a vast subject. I would like to ask you, can you connect your successes, joys, happiness and miseries as per your chart. Has anyone given you such revelation beforehand? Do you have your story with you?
Anupamji once told me here on lova that he will show me my future, and I refused to see it. So you can see, I am not comfortable about knowing my future. I never took up astrology to know my chart, I took it up just as a subject of interest and because I had a lot of time to kill.
About fighting destiny or going with the flow, I think everyone initially tries to fight destiny. I don't think there is anyone in the whole world, who will give up in the first try. He will keep trying, till he gets fed up and gives up and surrenders to destiny. That is what I mean when I talk about surrendering to destiny.Yes... very true. God's will is supreme. But what I was saying is one should keep on putting his/ her efforts, doing his/ her part, irrespective of the fact whether s/he gets success or failure. Rest is God's will.
If you are locked up in a room, you will shout a few times, asking someone to open the door, and if that doesn't work, you will bang the door of the room a few times, then, you will try some other way to get out of the room, but then, when you find no help and no way to escape, you will get tired and go and sit back in a corner of the room, keeping quiet. Isn't it what any person would do? So after repeated failures each and every person surrenders to destiny as there is no other option left for him, and he takes this decision with a logical mind.
I am just saying that if I am destined to succeed, destiny will make me work hard, and then, give me success, and now because I am not destined to succeed so, destiny is making me sit back and do nothing. That is what I am saying, and once again let me tell you this that I don't lead my life on the basis of what astrologers tell me.Basab ji, you are sidelining the whole concept. Yes, of course, it is very easy for one to waste time in life but hard is to make something out of it. Sometimes, even a diamond is left undiscovered in a mine. This can happen in ignorance only. When you should take your chart predictions as a source of courage and putting efforts, you are taking it otherwise by leaving it onto destiny to shower success on you. Well, if you have that in stores, you will surely get it. You will definitely one day put your effort to get what you deserve.
I am also saying the same thing: nothing can happen without effort: it's just that the effort you take is also predestined, otherwise a birth chart wouldn't have the need to have a house, which signifies efforts: the 3rd house.At the end I can only say, nothing can happen without effort, even writing a reply to this post.
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Krishna ji,
I agree with you on Saggitarius lagna people being fortunate. I didn't make the comparison at all because I am jealous about Aseem's success or anything like that, but just to compare two charts from an astrological standpoint. I can never compare myself with Aseem, and I will never do that. He is a hero, and I am no way that. He has I have always believed done a lot of good karmas in his previous lives to have so many planets in the 11th house of fulfillment of desires.
Yes, every house has its positive and negative effects, I agree on that completely. I too believe that Saturn's restricting my Venus, and my Venus in the 8th house of obstackes, but in own sign, has its own meaning, but I feel sometimes that it maybe is a punishment for some wrong done to a girl in some previous life of mine.
I read in one of K.N. Rao's magazine that 8th house is the house of infatuations, and in my 8th house period I have had quite a few of them.
About my Moon period, many have told me that it will be good, and I to believe that, so I am not saying that I don't agree with you on it.
About my health, hoping Sun period will give better results for me.
I agree with you on Saggitarius lagna people being fortunate. I didn't make the comparison at all because I am jealous about Aseem's success or anything like that, but just to compare two charts from an astrological standpoint. I can never compare myself with Aseem, and I will never do that. He is a hero, and I am no way that. He has I have always believed done a lot of good karmas in his previous lives to have so many planets in the 11th house of fulfillment of desires.
Yes, every house has its positive and negative effects, I agree on that completely. I too believe that Saturn's restricting my Venus, and my Venus in the 8th house of obstackes, but in own sign, has its own meaning, but I feel sometimes that it maybe is a punishment for some wrong done to a girl in some previous life of mine.
I read in one of K.N. Rao's magazine that 8th house is the house of infatuations, and in my 8th house period I have had quite a few of them.
About my Moon period, many have told me that it will be good, and I to believe that, so I am not saying that I don't agree with you on it.
About my health, hoping Sun period will give better results for me.
krishnagopal1968 wrote:Basab Ji,
Well analysed. About sagi lagna, not only it is a house of religion, it is also a house of fortune. They also may have more helpful father and birth surroundings positive as well. Ofcourse this applies provided jup/sun is well placed. But I have noticed in many charts that even if sun in deb, they have more than ordinary share of luck.
Now let us leave that comparison. You are as unique as aseem. As for venus in 8th house,my view is every house in a chart reflects a positive as well as negative side. About saturn restricting venus in your chart, I think there must be a need for that. It would turn out to be very good in a long run.
Your moon period will be good, is still my opinion!
When the dasa change from venus to sun, I hope your health would improve. If anything I find worthful in astrology is this Dasa chiddra!
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Basab
I suddenly remember something that I had seen in a Hindi serial, which is in context to our discussion on predestined destiny. It was a detective serial, and I was surfing the channels when I came to the channel showing it. It was the last scene, and the detective after solving his case was going out when he saw an old lady sitting there. I don't know how he knew her as I didn't see the whole episode of it. The detective asked the old lady,'Why are you sitting on the road like this? I don't like it.' The lady said, 'It is my destiny, which has got me here. Why should I be ashamed of my destiny?' What a line! What wisdom from the lady. These serials, sometimes teaches us things, which we can never forget. Long live the Hindi serials of Indian television! 
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Basab
Yeah, Aeem, you are right, modern stories are based on practical thinking, but that is needed as well. Both spiritual thinking and logical thinking is needed to survive in this world.
Dear Aseem,
This is for u hope u like it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgxLQYNV ... re=related
Regards
Sita
This is for u
hope u like it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgxLQYNV ... re=related
Regards
Sita
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Dear Basab ji,
Today I had a little free time and looked into previous posts of this thread and was shocked
Earlier I believed in a proverb " Murderer and Murdered both are responsible for a crime" and hence don't get much into other's arguments.
But after seeing the posts in this thread, I could see how your sensitivity affects you in a negative way. It is not good to have so many curses from other members. It will affect your health much more.
I don't want to drag astrology for this. We all have this entity called as " Pain Body" which gets revoked in some situations. This is known also as "Unconscious mind" or " egoic Consciousness".
But if this "Pain body " becomes dense then it would attract other pain bodies,provoke a fight and feeds itself. But life will be more difficult in this process. No good sleep is possible in times of arguments, our other relations would suffer as we project our negativity to them, we harm our body functions.
Finally this pain body itself realises the harm, but if not recognised earlier , then only after too much suffering which is unnecessary and can be avoided.
Today I had a little free time and looked into previous posts of this thread and was shocked
Earlier I believed in a proverb " Murderer and Murdered both are responsible for a crime" and hence don't get much into other's arguments.
But after seeing the posts in this thread, I could see how your sensitivity affects you in a negative way. It is not good to have so many curses from other members. It will affect your health much more.
I don't want to drag astrology for this. We all have this entity called as " Pain Body" which gets revoked in some situations. This is known also as "Unconscious mind" or " egoic Consciousness".
But if this "Pain body " becomes dense then it would attract other pain bodies,provoke a fight and feeds itself. But life will be more difficult in this process. No good sleep is possible in times of arguments, our other relations would suffer as we project our negativity to them, we harm our body functions.
Finally this pain body itself realises the harm, but if not recognised earlier , then only after too much suffering which is unnecessary and can be avoided.
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Basab
Krishna ji,
I appreciate your concern very much. About arguments, I agree with you that one should not get into them. I used to argue a lot in the real world, just like I do here on the forum, but I completely got over it since quite sometime now with my own effort, and I am trying to get over this argumentative habit of mine on the online world as well. The thing is, these people always target my sensitive points, and I end up getting hurt and an argument follows, and they get the chance to attack me and curse me. Being the big believer in destiny, I should accept their criticism as a part of my destiny, and not bother to react--that is ignore them.
About curses, I don't bother one bit about them because people who curse others for no reason, ends up seeing those curses rebound and hit them back, instead. God is not blind, Krishna ji, and He is not biased. He sees everything, and He is always fair in his judgement, so honestly speaking, I don't care one bit about what these people tell me. I am born with my own destiny, and so is everyone with theirs. What these people tell me, will not change my destiny, in anyway.
To sum it up, I will tell you a saying we have in Bengali, 'shakuner sape garu marena' (a vulture's curse doesn't make a cow die). That's all I have to say.
I appreciate your concern very much. About arguments, I agree with you that one should not get into them. I used to argue a lot in the real world, just like I do here on the forum, but I completely got over it since quite sometime now with my own effort, and I am trying to get over this argumentative habit of mine on the online world as well. The thing is, these people always target my sensitive points, and I end up getting hurt and an argument follows, and they get the chance to attack me and curse me. Being the big believer in destiny, I should accept their criticism as a part of my destiny, and not bother to react--that is ignore them.
About curses, I don't bother one bit about them because people who curse others for no reason, ends up seeing those curses rebound and hit them back, instead. God is not blind, Krishna ji, and He is not biased. He sees everything, and He is always fair in his judgement, so honestly speaking, I don't care one bit about what these people tell me. I am born with my own destiny, and so is everyone with theirs. What these people tell me, will not change my destiny, in anyway.
To sum it up, I will tell you a saying we have in Bengali, 'shakuner sape garu marena' (a vulture's curse doesn't make a cow die). That's all I have to say.
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Sita ji,
No curse or blessing or for the matter any happening is illogical. It may appear so to our minds.
I remember a saint's words. " Karma is nothing but blessing and curses" and " Life is nothing but a memory"
But I like your humorous nature. Jai krishna and Jai Jai Sita
No curse or blessing or for the matter any happening is illogical. It may appear so to our minds.
I remember a saint's words. " Karma is nothing but blessing and curses" and " Life is nothing but a memory"
But I like your humorous nature. Jai krishna and Jai Jai Sita
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Basab ji,
Thanks for the reply.
Thanks for the reply.
Dear Krishnagopalji,krishnagopal1968 wrote:Sita ji,
No curse or blessing or for the matter any happening is illogical. It may appear so to our minds.
I remember a saint's words. " Karma is nothing but blessing and curses" and " Life is nothing but a memory"
But I like your humorous nature. Jai krishna and Jai Jai Sita
The practical world is very different from your theoretical world.I meet hundreds of people everyday....some of them understand the gravity of the situation...some people just stick by their illogical,baseless and nonsense views
....they curse u for no fault of urs 
....btw as per ur The Great Logical -Ilogical Theory 
,I would have been finished by now btw Jai Shri Krishna is better than Jai Jai Sita.....coz I love krishna
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Basab
Krishnaji,krishnagopal1968 wrote:No curse or blessing or for the matter any happening is illogical. It may appear so to our minds.
I remember a saint's words. " Karma is nothing but blessing and curses" and " Life is nothing but a memory".
Things are unfortunately not that simple. If a criminal curses a cop for catching him, and then, curses the judge who gives him punishment as per the law, I don't think the curse will affect the cop or the judge one bit because neither the cop nor the judge did anything wrong to deserve the curse from the criminal. Now taking another example a person who is jealous of other people's success may curse those people that they should become a failure like him, but it doesn't happen that way. So you can't take a saint's line literally as there are exceptions to the rule, always.
It is said that if you desire something deeply, you get it, but that doesn't mean, that if you desire to rob a bank, God will fulfill that desire of yours, too. So I don't think these things should be taken literally.
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Sita,
You are absolutely right about what you have said. One should not get so much theoretical when it comes to life, and it is true, that you would have been finished by now as I am sure there are many jealous people, who can't take your success and are cursing you all the time. You are born with the planets in their specific places in your birth chart, and I don't think the curses have the power or the strength to move any of those planets from their position in the chart or change the order of the planetary dasha you will get, even a little. So when what is destined will anyway happen, how can curses change that, of course, if that curse, and it's effect is also not predestined, which is a point worth considering, and if that is so, then one should not be scared about it because it being predestined, one has no chance of stopping it, anyway.
You are absolutely right about what you have said. One should not get so much theoretical when it comes to life, and it is true, that you would have been finished by now as I am sure there are many jealous people, who can't take your success and are cursing you all the time. You are born with the planets in their specific places in your birth chart, and I don't think the curses have the power or the strength to move any of those planets from their position in the chart or change the order of the planetary dasha you will get, even a little. So when what is destined will anyway happen, how can curses change that, of course, if that curse, and it's effect is also not predestined, which is a point worth considering, and if that is so, then one should not be scared about it because it being predestined, one has no chance of stopping it, anyway.
sita wrote:Dear Krishnagopalji,
The practical world is very different from your theoretical world.I meet hundreds of people everyday....some of them understand the gravity of the situation...some people just stick by their illogical,baseless and nonsense views
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Basab
You are welcome, Krishnaji. I hope you didn't mind what I said.
krishnagopal1968 wrote:Basab ji,
Thanks for the reply.
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Basab
I have been asked by many what is spirituality. Today I was reading one of the lectures that Swami Vivekananda gave in London, and there I did come across a good definition of spirituality. Let me quote from page 111 of the book, 'Selections From The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda':
'Nowadays it is very hard even to talk of renunciation. It was said of me in America that I was a man who came out of a land that had been dead and buried for five thousand years, and talked of renunciation. So says perhaps the English philosopher. Yet it is true that is the only path to religion. Renounce and give up. What did Christ say? "He that loseth his life for my sake shall find it." Again and again did he preach renunciation as the only way to perfection. There comes a time when the mind awakes from this long and dreary dream--the child gives up its play and wants to go back to its mother.' It finds the truth of the statement, "Desire is never satisfied by the enjoyment of desire, it only increases the more, as fire when butter is poured upon it."'
I don't think after reading the above quoted lines of Swami Vivekananda one will have a confusion about what is spirituality.
'Nowadays it is very hard even to talk of renunciation. It was said of me in America that I was a man who came out of a land that had been dead and buried for five thousand years, and talked of renunciation. So says perhaps the English philosopher. Yet it is true that is the only path to religion. Renounce and give up. What did Christ say? "He that loseth his life for my sake shall find it." Again and again did he preach renunciation as the only way to perfection. There comes a time when the mind awakes from this long and dreary dream--the child gives up its play and wants to go back to its mother.' It finds the truth of the statement, "Desire is never satisfied by the enjoyment of desire, it only increases the more, as fire when butter is poured upon it."'
I don't think after reading the above quoted lines of Swami Vivekananda one will have a confusion about what is spirituality.
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krishnagopal1968
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Dear Sita Ji,
Agreed! Pardon me for my views.
By the way I don't love krishna. I love Sita because that is my mother's firstname
Agreed! Pardon me for my views.
By the way I don't love krishna. I love Sita because that is my mother's firstname
