Astrology & General Discussion on Birth Charts

[Dev]

White:

Yes wait for your guru dasa and till then spend time in learning astrology and writing Ramajayam or chanting Ram naam. That is your aim and you are not aimless .
Even if a person may not be alive to experience a yoga dasa period, it gives all that during its bhukti. In fact you know all the time all 9 planets are influencing an individual. Only the percentage varies.
Also, Aim, chant Hanuman chalisa more regularly for the effect of mars sat conjunction in the 7th.

Dev

[ranbir]

hi deeps
one more chart regarding venus_rahu combination

this chart belongs to a girl
13 sept 1980
place- gandhinagar(guj)
time-11:20am

she got married to a boy outside her caste and the marriage happened within a week

[Humannature]

Jegdish: I went to India by November 2011 and In my In-laws shani dev temple there is a pandit who saw my chart and told me there is a shani dosh..He asked me to do shani shanti..[/u][/b].I did it with a bare body and it was winters in North.I did the Shani shanti with full belief..

Deeps: Please note this that You got healed after Lord Saturn transited to Libra sign. He was transiting 6th house and aspecting 8th house of mysterious and 12th house. What you will call this now?

Jegdish: Hmm...Ziipped my mouth ...Can you please tell me why I have Bowel syndrome now?..Could you tell me why it happened and since april to till date and dont know how long...Is there an end to it???

Deeps: You are currently running Ketu period whose depositor is in 8th house of mysterious or the problem in correctly diagnosing the condition. You will feel better after Ketu dasha. But you will overcome any disease as 11th house of recovery is strong. You will posses good knowledge of medicines even homeopathy and treat yourself most of the times.

If back pain got cured after and because Saturn entered libra, why should new health problems arise while Sat is in Libra?

Jegdis: told me that "Your pain will be transfered to your wife in a different form and she will suffer with some problems and after a month you and your wife will be alright"

Deeps: I don't believe in this as it is purely illogical and wrong to transfer temporary sufferings to your wife.

So was it just a coincidence that she suffered exactly during, and for the exact duration the pandit mentioned?

[numbskull]

hello

remedies relate to appleasing divinity (god, demigods, grahas ) if remedies donot work and we consider astrology without beleiving in god and mythology than whole astrology becomes illogical.

how one will explain astrology and its effects without taking help of divinity how will u say sun is friendly to jupiter but enemy to saturn or sun is friendly to mars but enemy to ketu (which is not actually a body of matter) while mars is friendly to both sun and ketu ( in pure scientific terms these planets are matter and how will they r friendly or enemy is out of context)

how will u explain effect of jupitur affecting 2 individuals differently same time at close proximity of few feets whereas jupiter itself is millions of kilometers away from both of these individuals it can't be gravitational force (a truck nearby would have for gravitational force than jupiter to those people), it can't be light energy as these grahs keep on acting on these people when they are in cinemas or inside home, it can't be EM waves either becoz we already having so much of that radiation of mobilwe, tv networks...
so what it is some 4th kind of undiscoved force travelling millions of kms and able to hit so precisely to these two individuals and exert its effect based on planetory position of jupiter at time of their birth and also this precise force is able to act differently at different times according to dasas and transits of not only jupiter but also other planets and stars.

guys astrology can't be explained by science and scientific community has disproven astrology many a times

only way this could work is by assuming jupiter(other grahs) are having concience and will and are able to direct their willl over individuals and than we have to assume them as higher beings symbolized by their physical form
if these higher beings are working then our attempts to please them by remedies would also work
we have to look back to scriptures which tell us how sun and shani are enemy and from their only we get ways to please them, these remedies r there for thousands of years if they were so useless they would have been phased out long ago

there is no way astrology could have existence if there is no existence of god and if there is god than he sure listen of those who pray him.

thank you

[deeps]

I personally don't believe in remedies but I am no one to change other's opinions. I have tasted success in predictions where remedies failed to work.

Why there are problems in the world, particularly India? If proper healthcare system exists, will not treatment be more effective? Why there is unemployment? Why there is corruption? Why people in India suffer? If these problems are vanished, then everyone knows India will be the happiest place to live.

If one believe's in remedies, do them to remove corrupt politician, remove never ending problems and for India to shine. It is our country that needs the remedies the most. Par kiya Karen, such is India's destiny for the past 100 years.

[deeps]

ranbir » Fri Sep 14, 2012 12:36 am

hi deeps
one more chart regarding venus_rahu combination

this chart belongs to a girl
13 sept 1980
place- gandhinagar(guj)
time-11:20am

she got married to a boy outside her caste and the marriage happened within a week

Thanks Ranbir dude. This conjunction again prove the dictum works.

By the way, You have given the best performance in your latest blockbuster, Barfi.

My Thumbs up to you!!!

Cheers!!!

[jolli]

I beleive in prayer, concious efforts for self development and service / charity if possible.
Create good karma for cutting out the bad karma. Best remedy of all.....

Heera hee Heera ko kat ta hai.... as they say...

Regarding india being in deep s#%^t , its again like being ganga of world......

Paaapiyooo ke paap dho raha hai. Salvation brings soul to get born in india... its a short cut to salvation.

Taking many births in other geographies, why not take just one in india and cut the chase...

And as all short cuts are, this also is un kempt, filthy and brings you full range of colurs n tastes . just in one life!!!

[jolli]

Another take can be....

people do bad karma else where and get born in India to repent the same....thats why population burst in India post industrilasation in west n other....

West has little width to repent on karma, with mainly education, health and environment being better...

But by that logic , china is having more population.....


As remedies go, one of my friend being concerned for me consulted a astrologer. He advised me to
(1) Wear Sun glasses all the time
(2) Keep moustache...

I am still gripping with logic and rationale of above. Any comments ??

[map]

Dear jolli,

IMO, his business will be as it is now. After his 30th year i think he may face some difficulties regarding properties, conveyance etc. There wont be any windfalls.
I will have a take on dehradun one if you wish.

regards
map

[jolli]

Yes Sure Map

I am scouting for birth details, primarliy to sharpen our axe.

As it is easy when we know subject directly.

Please do go ahaed....BTW the above was for which chart. Kindly quote birth date as there are somany floating around. I myself have given about three

thanks once again

[KET]

Jegdish: I went to India by November 2011 and In my In-laws shani dev temple there is a pandit who saw my chart and told me there is a shani dosh..He asked me to do shani shanti..[/u][/b].I did it with a bare body and it was winters in North.I did the Shani shanti with full belief..

Deeps: Please note this that You got healed after Lord Saturn transited to Libra sign. He was transiting 6th house and aspecting 8th house of mysterious and 12th house. What you will call this now?

Jegdish: Hmm...Ziipped my mouth ...Can you please tell me why I have Bowel syndrome now?..Could you tell me why it happened and since april to till date and dont know how long...Is there an end to it???

Deeps: You are currently running Ketu period whose depositor is in 8th house of mysterious or the problem in correctly diagnosing the condition. You will feel better after Ketu dasha. But you will overcome any disease as 11th house of recovery is strong. You will posses good knowledge of medicines even homeopathy and treat yourself most of the times.

If back pain got cured after and because Saturn entered libra, why should new health problems arise while Sat is in Libra?

Jegdis: told me that "Your pain will be transfered to your wife in a different form and she will suffer with some problems and after a month you and your wife will be alright"

Deeps: I don't believe in this as it is purely illogical and wrong to transfer temporary sufferings to your wife.

So was it just a coincidence that she suffered exactly during, and for the exact duration the pandit mentioned?

Excellent analysis....

[KET]

I personally don't believe in remedies but I am no one to change other's opinions. I have tasted success in predictions where remedies failed to work.

Why there are problems in the world, particularly India? If proper healthcare system exists, will not treatment be more effective? Why there is unemployment? Why there is corruption? Why people in India suffer? If these problems are vanished, then everyone knows India will be the happiest place to live.

If one believe's in remedies, do them to remove corrupt politician, remove never ending problems and for India to shine. It is our country that needs the remedies the most. Par kiya Karen, such is India's destiny for the past 100 years.

Refer below classic examples remedies helped Classic astrologers....

by Vaughn Paul » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:15 am
You're welcome Rajitha. The Vishnu Sahasranam is a great practice. I've been reciting it off and on for the last sixteen years, but just the last 6 months it's become a daily practice and I'm noticing a lot of benefit. Vaughn Paul

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by astroduffer » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:03 pm
Shri VishnuSahasranaam infact changed my life for good. Since last 6 months, I listen/recite it daily. I also listen to Shri Hanuman Chalisa daily.

The full version of it does require a lot of patience as it is quite big and needs to be pronounced correctly. However, there is a stanza that Shivji narrates to Parvatidevi as equivalent of the entire Shri Vishnu Sahasranaam starting with Ishvar Uvaach

" Shri Ram Ram Rameti Rame Rame Manorame
Sahasranaam Tatulyam Ram nam varanane"

Shri Krishna in Mahabharata also mentioned that mere chanting of name "Krishna" is equivalent to chanting of Entire Shri Vishnu Sahasranaam 3 times, and that it is very dear to him.

Thanks Vaughanji.
To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you something else is the greatest accomplishment.

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[manya]

Akansha ji,

Mercury-Rahu conjunction can make a person a genius if in the right position and has benefic influence, but again, it can make a person have mental problems if in the wrong place and afflicted by malefics.

Ok. And what does the following two imply-
1. Sun-mer-rahu
2. Moon-mer-rahu

[manya]

Akansha:

You seem all the time worried on some grounds. Better start Hanuman chalisa regularly and so also Vishnu Sahasranama.
Yes, for 7th lord debilitated and associated with chandra, it is not good. Ask him to do Mahalakshmi puja that I also suggested to you. But see whether he has neecha bhanga and also whether venus is exalted in navamsa

Dev

Dev ji,

Khali dimag shaitan ka ghar...
Though i am very busy but mind keeps wavering, mostly in the negative direction. Actually mind need right food too...
I ave started doing both hanuman chalisa and vishnu sahasranama.

[manya]

Akanksha ji,

One more simple remedy , it helps me so i am suggesting...wheneve u get the time plz take a red pen and write " shri ram " all over a book ... It evaporates my worries and helps me get some positivity.

Thanks White ji,

I will do...in fact it is good practice...meditation

[Dev]

Akanksha:

Khali dimag shaitan ka ghar...

Bilkul teek kaha. Lekin tumne to forum ke logon se baaten karna shuru kiya hai(through written words) to dimag khali kaise rahega? Vo bhi mere jaise buddimanon se jab chat kar rahi hai to dimag khali kaise rahegi?


Eat proper food, anyway you are a vegetarian, eat satvik food.

It is nice you started both hanuman chalisa and vishnu sahasranama.
But along with this, I told you about feeding cows, even those which are walking on the roads.
You can see the difference in some days but anyway dont always think of the results that you want to have, do it as nishkamya karma

Dev

[KET]

I personally don't believe in remedies but I am no one to change other's opinions. I have tasted success in predictions where remedies failed to work.

Why there are problems in the world, particularly India? If proper healthcare system exists, will not treatment be more effective? Why there is unemployment? Why there is corruption? Why people in India suffer? If these problems are vanished, then everyone knows India will be the happiest place to live.

If one believe's in remedies, do them to remove corrupt politician, remove never ending problems and for India to shine. It is our country that needs the remedies the most. Par kiya Karen, such is India's destiny for the past 100 years.

The debate was on remedies and astrology.

Why our Country ( my & your) has been dragged in to the controversy.

India is still the happiest place to live. I guess there is some notion around in the mind, feeling gives he insight that India isn't the happiest place. Look at the unemployment/ retrenchment culture in Europe/ U.S.. Unemployment will be always there in the world. Corruption (2G/Coalgate etc) agreed netas are corrupted. It is not alone in India, even Corruption happens in U.K, Grmany, U.S. etc..Few countries NZ, Singapore etc there are strict laws to govern on corruption for Government folks and even for normal public (civilians). Please read Transparency International website on corruption Index across Globe.
If you are saying so, may I ask you how many remedial measures you have taken for our country on these raised issues... unemployment, Corruption.e.g, have you enrolled yourself as a member of Ipaidbribe.com to create awareness about corruption.

Please restrict your discussion on remedies itself, do not drag my country in to it and create the flutter.

[manya]

Bilkul teek kaha. Lekin tumne to forum ke logon se baaten karna shuru kiya hai(through written words) to dimag khali kaise rahega? Vo bhi mere jaise buddimanon se jab chat kar rahi hai to dimag khali kaise rahegi?

Eat proper food, anyway you are a vegetarian, eat satvik food.

haan ....thats why i started learning astrology, not because i wanted to see the future, but to understand life better.

Yes not chatting but exchanging posts...and gaining knowledge with the knowledgeable and learned members like you. I would love to learn music too someday....dont know if it is there in my destiny

It is nice you started both hanuman chalisa and vishnu sahasranama.
But along with this, I told you about feeding cows, even those which are walking on the roads.
You can see the difference in some days but anyway dont always think of the results that you want to have, do it as nishkamya karma

Dev

Yes Dev ji, you are right.

[manya]

Deeps ji , yellow ji , devji ..plz guide me with the following...
when we see a yog in a chart , for example a laxmi yog , but what if the native is not under the mahadasha of those particular planets that give him that yog and wont even be undergoing it anytime soon, then does it mean that this particular laxmi yog is of no value in the native s chart ? then how does this yog help the native in any way ?

also all those who know my chart , i wanted to confirm this .
i have meena rashi in the 11 th house with no planets, khumbh rashi in the 10th house with jupiter, mercury,venus, sun sitting at planets, and saturn sits as a planet in the 7th house with mars in vrsichik rashi. now can i draw a conclusion that the 7th house is in a way connected to the 11th house ?
like 12th house meena(jupiter)----jupiter in the khumbh(saturn) in the 10th house----saturn in vrishick(7th house)...
plz guide.
does this result in a connection or am i totally wrong here?

I have two extreme yogas - daridra yoga and laxmi yoga...a
and I keep fluctuating..sometimes i have money, sometimes i am on roads...

dev ji, deeps ji and yellow ji,
please comment on these two yogas in my chart. Jhora shows daridra yoga but not laxmi yoga though.

[Dev]

Akanksha:

Yes, there are three ways of building your concentration:

Chanting slokas regularly, making it a regular habit
Learning new things or things which you know little bit but want to expand your knowledge in that area like music( which I am expecting you to start learning soon may be from me ), astrology, may be other areas like computer softwares and so on
doing social service, anna daan, visiting temples, going on pilgrimage with family, serving the cows regularly feeding them with grass and so on

Those which will not help you in building your concentration:
Keeping aloof and always thinking negatively about your problems
Gossipping
Talking negative things about bad people that have hurt you(does no help other than to affect your health though waht you say may be 100% true)

Dev

[basab14]

Dev,

You shouldn't blame Jupiter in the 7th house for what she is. Rahu conjunct with lagna lord, Saturn, and Mars' influence on the 4th/5th house is responsible for that. Rahu-Saturn in the second house is the reason she has harsh speech.

Yellow:

She was born in shatabhishak, lagna and rasi are kumbha, 2nd has sat and rahu, 7th has jupiter and 8th ketu These 5 planets position is confirmed. Also I know that sun and mars are together ie in 4th or 5th, mercury and venus in 4th I think in case of sun and mars in 5th.

What other points I know is she is the only daughter, her elder brother and younger brother got married before her. She is somewhat dark and not good looking, short, and did MCom or so but was working in software(earning well). Her father was a bank officer. Her father was softspoken but mother was an extremely rude, so was her mother and also her daughter. The men in their house were all feminine and dominated by these ladies and men were all good looking and these ladies looked not good.

Dev

[basab14]

Thanks, White.

Yellow ji ,
Nice signature line !

[manya]

Akanksha:

Yes, there are three ways of building your concentration:

Chanting slokas regularly, making it a regular habit
Learning new things or things which you know little bit but want to expand your knowledge in that area like music( which I am expecting you to start learning soon may be from me ), astrology, may be other areas like computer softwares and so on
doing social service, anna daan, visiting temples, going on pilgrimage with family, serving the cows regularly feeding them with grass and so on

Those which will not help you in building your concentration:
Keeping aloof and always thinking negatively about your problems
Gossipping
Talking negative things about bad people that have hurt you(does no help other than to affect your health though waht you say may be 100% true)

Dev

Dev ji,

You are right.

But, now since i am born brahmin, chanting mantras and daily puja is a part of routine and since i do fasting on tuesdays, hanuman chalisa on tuesdays is a part of life too...have been doing this since long as far as i can remember.
I love painting and sketching, and i love music too...earlier whenever i had little bit fo time, i tried to expand my knowledge in these two areas. Software is my work area, i cannot survive in job if i do not keep myself updated.
Social service/charity....it makes me happy but it is something i would not like to disclose.

Now time has forced me in this situation, i somehow do not want to discuss my problems with everyone so i am aloof. here in this forum no one knows me so i can share my pains.

Gossiping i hate and would never like to be a part of it. I always avoid to be part of such discussions.

Talking negative things ...yes i have anger against those who troubled me just to satisfy there ego and because of their ignorance and little mind...I will not go and harm them, and i am not frustrated because of them, i catch depression when i see myself as a victim of people's stupid mind and circumstances....I know it will harm my own health too...

But then the best remedy for me is too make my mind strong enough to not get perturbed because of anyone and anything....

[deeps]

I have two extreme yogas - daridra yoga and laxmi yoga...a
and I keep fluctuating..sometimes i have money, sometimes i am on roads...

dev ji, deeps ji and yellow ji,
please comment on these two yogas in my chart. Jhora shows daridra yoga but not laxmi yoga though.

Yes, the daridra yogas are responsible for the fluctuating fortunes. That's why it is said that at times, destiny showers blessings and at times, destiny is harsh on one due to the presence of daridra yogas.

This is why a person goes up if the period of benefic yogas come at the right time and when the bad time starts, i.e. when negative yogas set in, the person has a steep fall.

[basab14]

Deeps,

I, too, don't believe in remedies, and the reason for that is, I have talked to many people, who have done remedies and have seen no beneficial effect of them in their lives. I believe what I see, and when I will see people in this forum coming and giving their feedbacks that the remedies that they have done have worked for them, I will start believing in them, too.

I have nothing against remedies, and I will be happy if they work, but then, till date I am yet to hear from people that the remedies that they have done have worked for them. We can spend day after day quoting from books and scriptures about remedies working, but till I get to hear from people--and not one or two, but hundreds of them--that remedies worked for them, I will not believe in it, as seeing is believing.