Thanks Ranbir. I will look into the chart later on.this is the chart i was talking about
1: date-29 feb 1988
time-19 30
place- kalol(gujrat)
got married by eloping with her lover who belonged to different caste
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deeps
Hi Mapmap wrote:Dear jolli,
Thanks for the feedback. I believe there is atleast 20 minutes of error in birth time in this case. In my experience, i have noticed that there is an error of about half an hour in most of the cases and as you know, divisional charts are extremely time sensitive.
regards
map
I actually agree with you. So which way 20 min. Plus or minus.
but his birth chart dosnt changes either way for 50 mins! Although definately D charts will change.
Regarding goodlooking trait, i observed its subjective. Opinion changes person to person. He is 6 feet tall and good built. so could be said to be good looking. but quite oover weight.
Regarding other things you were pretty close. Only degree mattered. As you do not see native hence the margine of error.
His job definatly revolve around computer. he is technicallly qualified. though not a highly qualified as you said. No b-tech but just a diploma holder. But still its a technical qualification.
As he is running his own business, that means management. But no formal degree.
Please see i am trying to relate. You were not off the mark. You were quite close.
Do you see his success in business??
in a girls lagna chart ,is Jupiter in the 7th house considered not good for marriage ?
I gave the example of a lady somewhere in this forum, she had moon in lagna, Jupiter in 7th and she was not a good lady, dishonest, rude and quarreled with her husband and fought with him which led to divorce immediately after marriage.
Dev
I gave the example of a lady somewhere in this forum, she had moon in lagna, Jupiter in 7th and she was not a good lady, dishonest, rude and quarreled with her husband and fought with him which led to divorce immediately after marriage.
Dev
Yellow:
Jupiter is lord of 2nd and 11th both from lagna and rasi. She has almost no characteristics of a lady.
Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Where did you get this from? I never hear commonly God talking about vengeance, may be you have to quote the other part of it too.
Dev
Jupiter is lord of 2nd and 11th both from lagna and rasi. She has almost no characteristics of a lady.
Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Where did you get this from? I never hear commonly God talking about vengeance, may be you have to quote the other part of it too.
Dev
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Dev ji,Yellow:
Jupiter is lord of 2nd and 11th both from lagna and rasi. She has almost no characteristics of a lady.
Dev
Please explain this, if jup is lord of 2nd and 11th and in 7th house- it means what?
I am letting go of the thoughts that do not make me strong.
Akanksha:
See you have 12 rasis and 9 planets, other than rahu and ketu there are seven. Out of these, other than sun and moon, each of the other 5 planets have 2 houses each, that makes it 10, sun and moon have one each, so that adds up to 12. Rahu and ketu are chaya grahas or shadowy planets and do not have houses of their own.
Lagna is based on the time of birth, which appears with L sign in the horoscope, rasi refers to the house in which moon is placed. Both are normally different for most people and for some it can be same.
So houses are calculated from lagna as 1st, 2nd and so on until 12th. So if the lady has kumbha lagna, meena and dhanur will become 2nd and 11th houses for her, which denote kutumb sthan and labh sthan, and are houses of jupiter, jupiter is himself placed in simha the 7th house, house of sun.
Gochara predictions that you listen to in the TV is based on your nakshatra or moon position and not lagna. That is why you may not get right readings from that because each horoscope is characteristics of the individual more than his nakshatra since there are only 27 stars and we should be having only 27 different types of people based on that but we see no two humans are alike. So this complexity can be explained only by taking into account the lagna along with position of planets from the lagna which is characteristics of that particular individual alone.
Dev
See you have 12 rasis and 9 planets, other than rahu and ketu there are seven. Out of these, other than sun and moon, each of the other 5 planets have 2 houses each, that makes it 10, sun and moon have one each, so that adds up to 12. Rahu and ketu are chaya grahas or shadowy planets and do not have houses of their own.
Lagna is based on the time of birth, which appears with L sign in the horoscope, rasi refers to the house in which moon is placed. Both are normally different for most people and for some it can be same.
So houses are calculated from lagna as 1st, 2nd and so on until 12th. So if the lady has kumbha lagna, meena and dhanur will become 2nd and 11th houses for her, which denote kutumb sthan and labh sthan, and are houses of jupiter, jupiter is himself placed in simha the 7th house, house of sun.
Gochara predictions that you listen to in the TV is based on your nakshatra or moon position and not lagna. That is why you may not get right readings from that because each horoscope is characteristics of the individual more than his nakshatra since there are only 27 stars and we should be having only 27 different types of people based on that but we see no two humans are alike. So this complexity can be explained only by taking into account the lagna along with position of planets from the lagna which is characteristics of that particular individual alone.
Dev
Yellow ji,
very laid backin attitude but then she finds ppl easily who make her life simple ...so yeah sort of a smooth life...
yes she is attractive , but only to an extent and that too in looks , when she talks i dnt find her interesting/attractive...not at all creative ... she speaks sugar coatedly so yeah u can say she is good in speech , she can get her work done from you and you wont even find out ! yeah she has done her MBA but in marketing and she worked in the finance feild for 5 yrs...very aggressive and bold...yes her family has many issues, health, financial etc...well now she is married ,her in-laws house is way better than her own house ,gets better facilities/luxuries now as compared to her own house , her mothers side of the family does stay in an old house...she does not have a job since nov 2011 (got married in dec 2011)...The chart is good. The person is very romantic/flirtatious and very charming and attractive. Maybe he is creative/artistic. He is good in speech. Some problems in his mouth/face is possible. He must have been good in studies. A job, which is connected to his studies, is most likely in his case. He is aggressive and bold and confident. Some problems maybe is there in his family. He is doing very well in his career. He is in a romantic relation now or the relationship has ended. Life has been quite smooth for him so far. Presently, he is under a lot of stress. Health issues are possible for him or his mother now. He stays in an old house.
very laid backin attitude but then she finds ppl easily who make her life simple ...so yeah sort of a smooth life...
hmmm ok..No, no analysis is the same. The only thing I will change in my prediction is, there will be problems in married life. I didn't know the person was married when you posted her birth details, so I said that she is in a relationship and maybe it has broken off
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
Devji,
sir this is w.r.t which chart...30/7/1982 or 20/2/1988 ?About the girl you are talking about, I feel she could be proficient in music, because of the mercury, venus combination with one of them exalted. I think she is highely short tempered and could abuse anyone with very harsh words when she gets really angry
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
Map,
sir, she has done B.Tech but followed it with MBA in marketing , worked for 5 yrs in finance feild, no teaching done so far ...she is good looking but so-so compared to her partner, not at creative so finearts is not in the picture...she spends money on her own self but turns stingy when it comes to spending on othersIMO, the native is given to comforts, good looking, good in finearts / painting, a electronics/computer engineer and probably into teaching profession. The native spends money a lot.
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
Deeps ji,
No travelling invovled so far , yes she has an elder brother, she has done graduation in commerce, finished CA and currently pursuing CFA.Does she travels a lot? She has an elder sibling? She has done btech and maybe planning to do MBA?
Thank you Deeps jiWell Said white!!!
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
Thanks for the feedback, White. When I said attractive, I meant it in terms of looks only. Did she have love marriage as it's showing in the chart?
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
when we see a yog in a chart , for example a laxmi yog , but what if the native is not under the mahadasha of those particular planets that give him that yog and wont even be undergoing it anytime soon, then does it mean that this particular laxmi yog is of no value in the native s chart ? then how does this yog help the native in any way ?
also all those who know my chart , i wanted to confirm this .
i have meena rashi in the 11 th house with no planets, khumbh rashi in the 10th house with jupiter, mercury,venus, sun sitting at planets, and saturn sits as a planet in the 7th house with mars in vrsichik rashi. now can i draw a conclusion that the 7th house is in a way connected to the 11th house ?
like 12th house meena(jupiter)----jupiter in the khumbh(saturn) in the 10th house----saturn in vrishick(7th house)...
plz guide.
does this result in a connection or am i totally wrong here?
also all those who know my chart , i wanted to confirm this .
i have meena rashi in the 11 th house with no planets, khumbh rashi in the 10th house with jupiter, mercury,venus, sun sitting at planets, and saturn sits as a planet in the 7th house with mars in vrsichik rashi. now can i draw a conclusion that the 7th house is in a way connected to the 11th house ?
like 12th house meena(jupiter)----jupiter in the khumbh(saturn) in the 10th house----saturn in vrishick(7th house)...
plz guide.
does this result in a connection or am i totally wrong here?
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
Yellow ji,
okThanks for the feedback, White. When I said attractive, I meant it in terms of looks only.
yes she did..can you show me how you concluded this ?Did she have love marriage as it's showing in the chart?
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
White,
I said she is attractive because Venus-Rahu combination is there in her lagna, which makes a person physically attractive.
5-7 connection in a birth chart normally gives love marriage. In her chart, 7th lord, Jupiter is in the 5th house.
I said she is attractive because Venus-Rahu combination is there in her lagna, which makes a person physically attractive.
5-7 connection in a birth chart normally gives love marriage. In her chart, 7th lord, Jupiter is in the 5th house.
When I said about her staying in an old house, I meant, her parent's house is maybe an old house. Did you mean her parent's house when you said, 'her mother's side of the family'?her mothers side of the family does stay in an old house...
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
Yellow ji ,
Oh yeah i missed the 5-7 th connection... Are there other ways to see if the marriage is arranged or love ?
Yes i meant her parents house is old.
Also what all do we see only in lagna chart and wht all do we see for in rashi chart ..like for ex 5-7 connection has any importance in a rashi chart or its only kept for lagna... Now u said rahu n venus makes her attractive , bt what is the peron has this combo in her rashi instead of lagna, does it still hold true ? Do u consider navamsa?
Saturn in the 7 th in navamsa means an old partner ?
Oh yeah i missed the 5-7 th connection... Are there other ways to see if the marriage is arranged or love ?
Yes i meant her parents house is old.
Also what all do we see only in lagna chart and wht all do we see for in rashi chart ..like for ex 5-7 connection has any importance in a rashi chart or its only kept for lagna... Now u said rahu n venus makes her attractive , bt what is the peron has this combo in her rashi instead of lagna, does it still hold true ? Do u consider navamsa?
Saturn in the 7 th in navamsa means an old partner ?
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
White,
The 5-7 connection is the only one I know surely about, and it works in most cases I have seen.
When you are talking about the rashi chart, are you meaning the Moon chart (with Moon sign as lagna)? Technically speaking, the lagna chart is actually the rashi chart, as per my knowledge. Coming to the Moon chart, I don't give importance to it.
Venus-Rahu-Moon together will make the person more attractive, physically, but the person will be having lots of attitude problems.
Yes, I always check the navamsha, but mostly when predicting the planetary periods. I use other divisional charts also for that purpose mostly.
The 5-7 connection is the only one I know surely about, and it works in most cases I have seen.
When you are talking about the rashi chart, are you meaning the Moon chart (with Moon sign as lagna)? Technically speaking, the lagna chart is actually the rashi chart, as per my knowledge. Coming to the Moon chart, I don't give importance to it.
Venus-Rahu-Moon together will make the person more attractive, physically, but the person will be having lots of attitude problems.
Yes, I always check the navamsha, but mostly when predicting the planetary periods. I use other divisional charts also for that purpose mostly.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
Dev,Dev wrote:Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
Where did you get this from? I never hear commonly God talking about vengeance, may be you have to quote the other part of it too.
Dev
The book, where I read the line, only the portion I mentioned was quoted, so not sure if there is any other part to it. I will tell you what is being said through the line as I know the context in which the line was quoted by Swami Vivekananda, which I read there in the book. I have read about the same thing in another book also. It's talking about the law of karma. If you do someone harm, you will be harmed in return. Now, if that person doesn't personally harm you, God will make sure that you get harmed in return, and he will chose someone else as an instrument for that, because the law of karma should not fail.
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"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
yellow ji,
yes when i said rashi chart i meant the moon chart(moon as lagna)...ok so you dont give the moon chart much weightage...The 5-7 connection is the only one I know surely about, and it works in most cases I have seen.
When you are talking about the rashi chart, are you meaning the Moon chart (with Moon sign as lagna)? Technically speaking, the lagna chart is actually the rashi chart, as per my knowledge. Coming to the Moon chart, I don't give importance to it.
so this is true when the 1st houses in lagna chart (u address it as rashi chart) has rahu+venus+moon ? right...? so what if the 1st house has no planets ..then ? you see the rashi occupied by the 1st house and u see where that particula planet sits...like if tula is in 1st house with no occupants then you see where venus is sitting ?Venus-Rahu-Moon together will make the person more attractive, physically, but the person will be having lots of attitude problems.
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
No, I don't see the Moon chart at all, White.
Yes, what I said about Venus-Moon-Rahu it will happen when they are in the first house in the lagna chart. In this case, they are in the first house in the Moon chart as well. A planet influencing the Moon will have its effect on a person's nature, definitely.
You are right about how to analyze the lagna. If no planet is there in the lagna, you have to see the position of the lagna lord, and also the planets influencing the lagna and the lagna lord. You also have to see the sign which is there in the lagna, as you have rightly mentioned.
Yes, what I said about Venus-Moon-Rahu it will happen when they are in the first house in the lagna chart. In this case, they are in the first house in the Moon chart as well. A planet influencing the Moon will have its effect on a person's nature, definitely.
You are right about how to analyze the lagna. If no planet is there in the lagna, you have to see the position of the lagna lord, and also the planets influencing the lagna and the lagna lord. You also have to see the sign which is there in the lagna, as you have rightly mentioned.
"Go thou and follow Him, who was born and gave His life for others five hundred times before He attained the vision of the Buddha!" -- Swami Vivekananda
Deeps,
Lord Venus also rules 4th house and 9th house. 9th house going to 10th house shows good career but the depositor Mars is debilitated. Hence insecurity. He does not have much strong Rajyogas.
Is it ok to move to new job?..Problem is he has been in the present company for more than 12 years and the situation is not good there and he thinks to move to a contract position and he is worried if it would be good to change the job for him...
Did he visited home in the period of 4th Lord and that visit was for a long time?
Yes he had a frequent visist to India b/w 2009 to tilldate and this year he made two trips to India..
Purchasing Land in 4th Lord makes sense but in his brother's name does not make sense. Does he have elder brother?
BinaXX
...Yes, he is his elder brother!!
Lord Saturn, Lord Moon and Lord Ketu in 12th house is not good and his health seems to be major issue. He may be more into spirituality.
He has got a shoulder pain/problem for last one year...He got operated but still he cannot lift his hand above a certain height.He prays to god everyday...but not very spritual
Lord Venus also rules 4th house and 9th house. 9th house going to 10th house shows good career but the depositor Mars is debilitated. Hence insecurity. He does not have much strong Rajyogas.
Is it ok to move to new job?..Problem is he has been in the present company for more than 12 years and the situation is not good there and he thinks to move to a contract position and he is worried if it would be good to change the job for him...
Did he visited home in the period of 4th Lord and that visit was for a long time?
Yes he had a frequent visist to India b/w 2009 to tilldate and this year he made two trips to India..
Purchasing Land in 4th Lord makes sense but in his brother's name does not make sense. Does he have elder brother?
BinaXX
...Yes, he is his elder brother!! Lord Saturn, Lord Moon and Lord Ketu in 12th house is not good and his health seems to be major issue. He may be more into spirituality.
He has got a shoulder pain/problem for last one year...He got operated but still he cannot lift his hand above a certain height.He prays to god everyday...but not very spritual
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yellow ji ,
hmmmk ...thank you for the clarifications...
Devji,
she sings in the church in the choir, yes highly short tempered with harsh words .
but i didnt get the part of mercury with venus, her venus is exalted in the 6th house though , and mercury is retrograde in the 4th house...she has virgo/tula rashi in the first house of lagna with no planets..so how is mer combined with venus here ...plz guide...
hmmmk ...thank you for the clarifications...
i m sorry i didnt get you here ? the chart we are discussing (30/7/1982) has rah+ven in the 1st house in the lagna chart but only moon in the first house in the moon/rashi chart ?said about Venus-Moon-Rahu it will happen when they are in the first house in the lagna chart. In this case, they are in the first house in the Moon chart as well
Devji,
Bingo !About the girl you are talking about, I feel she could be proficient in music, because of the mercury, venus combination with one of them exalted. I think she is highely short tempered and could abuse anyone with very harsh words when she gets really angry
I was referring to the one born on 20th Feb 1988
she sings in the church in the choir, yes highly short tempered with harsh words .but i didnt get the part of mercury with venus, her venus is exalted in the 6th house though , and mercury is retrograde in the 4th house...she has virgo/tula rashi in the first house of lagna with no planets..so how is mer combined with venus here ...plz guide...
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
devji,
hmmk...but how does the short tempered bit fit into place ?took the above statement of yours as meaning that venus and mercury are together in the 6th, Anyway exalted venus can still give music.
"All that we are, is a result of what we have thought"--Gautum Buddha
