Why matching charts is important even when you are in love

[msrhprasad]

Dear Astro Boy Ji,

In my first line I quoted as I am zero in Astrology, but due to interest in this Divine Subject I am reading replies of learned Members...
Yes, No doubt you are doing really excellent Job...no one can't question in this including me..? now days who will spend their time for un-known persons...in this I really appreciate you and other members...
But my feeling is when discussion was going between you and Sharma Ji, other members countered him, now this is 2nd incident...may be you do not know, but as a readers we feel some negative...
Just observe that while going discussion with Mr.Sharma Ji or ECK ji - Other Members countered them...this finally leads negative opinion...
1st time during your discussion with Shri.Sharma Ji - Some members rudely asked Shri.Sharma Ji - Just leave the forum or Ignore Sharma Ji comments.
and this time Arya commented the same - he gave message to other members as just Ignore ECK Ji or sack him from the forum...
In both incidents no one supported Shri.Sharma Ji or ECK Ji - all of supported you behalf of you they started counter...Now you tell how we can under stand this ...?
I agree with ECK ji means, I do not want go to in to the Subject, but what he arise the topic - that should be between you and same time other members can express their views - but they should not start attack / counter...

I am sorry if I hurt you, but I said truth...

Sincerely,
prasad

[astroboy]

Let me use the details provided by ECK as a case study ,


let us match the horoscopes from the ascendent ,

we get ,

Gujarati Synastry points from Ascendent

Subject Maxscore Kuta
Varna 1 Brahmin Kshatriya 1

Vashya 2 Watergoer Treegoer 2.0

Tara 3 M>F 3 F>M 8 1.5

Yoni 4 Cat M Rat F 0

Rashish* 5 MooMoo Sun Sun 5.0

Gana 6 Rakshasa Human 0

Rashi 7 Can Leo 0

Nadi** 8 Kap/Kap Pit/Vat (8) 8

Total 36 F (as M) F 17.5

Mahendra No Rajju Yes

Stree-Dirgha Yes Vedha Yes
Like I said before , seek confirmation from the lagna . Here we find Mahendra, Gana , Rashyadipathi , and Yoni failing the test . A point to note about Yoni . I had said that Yoni in Kali Yuga has become the most important Tool for matching charts . Here the male is a Cat and the female is a Rat . Can the two ever be friend's ? ?

[astroboy]

Now let us look at synastry ,

Lagna's are in a 2/12 relationship indicating that they act like secret adverseries.

Ravi/Ravi are in a 2/12 Relationship indicating that they act like secret adverseries

Moon is in a 5/9 relationship . That is good

Shukra is in a 1/1 relationship . That is good too .

What I can infer from this is that if they get together their relationship will be a "Push Pull' relationship . I feel there is a complete contrast between the two .

[astroboy]

Now like I said before, let us look at the girls horoscope . I have said you have to take a overall view of the 2nd, 4th, 7th, and the 8th house of a girls horoscope .

Negative points,

8th lord in the lagna aspecting the 7, his own house.
4th house lord is debilitated and is also spoilt because of the presence of Rahu
Shani is in Ashlesha Nakshatra . Not a good nakshatra to be in, Inspite of Nakshatra lord Budha being exalted . Budha is retro .
Shukra is debilitated .
Kuja Shukra yoga in the 3rd cannot be good .

Positive points,

Shukra is Neecha Bhanga
Guru's aspect on shukra and Kuja is good (Guru's influence is weak because Shukra is debilitated )
Guru's aspect on the 7th is good , No matter how weak the aspect is .

Navamsha 7th house has a huge afflicition because of the presence of Ravi and Shani . Kuja and Ketu in the 8th is a disaster . It is really a tough proposition to keep the marriage alive .




Summary ,

Girl will have a trying and a very very tough time in keeping a relationship going . No doubt Shukra is weak, But Guru's aspect and Guru's association can keep the marriage running......... Provided the compatability is done . Happiness will be hard to find because of Shukra's state .

[Nitin21]

Prasadji,

Kindly answer, What in your opinion should astroboy do as of now ? From what I can see, he has two options:

a. Either continue matching charts because he and the majority here believes in it, based on the scriptural guidelines

OR

b. Stop matching charts because a HANDFUL do not believe in it, as they think Scriptures are just a figment of imagination

If you were in his place what would you like to do ?

Regards
Sonu

[astroboy]

Boy's horoscope,

Negative points,

7th lord is debilitated
lord where 7th is debilitated is again debilitated and combust
4th lord is debilitated in the 2nd
12th lord Moon is in the 2nd
Kuja aspects 7th from the 12th where he is debilitated
Shani dasha has started in june 2010
Sade sati is on

Good points,
Guru aspects lagna lord

Summary ,

Not compatable . I do not recommend matching
Girls Navamsha is afflicted
Boy is going through a tough time
Situation is bad . I feel that the couple may have drifted appart and might also be thinking on the lines of seperation and divorce . Woman will try had to keep it going no doubt . But there is always a breaking point for everything .

[arya]

Good Day,
Arya ji,

Why moderators ban egoCombustsknowledge Ji, what is his mistake?
He arise one issue, have to clear it soft way. Don't attack ....I do not feel any mistake in his statements...I agree with him ....
I am not expert in Astrology, but interested in Astrology so keenly observing conversions among the members.

See Mr.Arya, the forum for sharing views,ideas and knowledge not for Ban / Ignore some one..
If Moderators started ignoring Learned Members finally No one will be in the forum i.e Learned Members...

Already This forum lost Learned Members one example is Sri.M.S.S.Sharma Ji...
Reg.This I have already sent message to Mr.V.Paul Ji, few days ago, if moderators do not want Learned Members that is their wish.

God is great...

Sincerely,
prasad

Prasad,

I have absolutely no problem in anyone coming and arguing with proof,logic,courtesy and respect towards whomever they are arguing with...

is it the case here? No

@arya sorry most people are here for dual purposes, 1-to help others; 2- to learn from the several free-cases availble with zero accountability even for their dangerous words.It is a give-n-take forum, like all forums. Every one is giving and taking.
even those getting-"free" reading ;are GIVING their peronal life details for the astyrologers to practise their hands on for free
namaskar

After this to comment esp point no 2 : even those getting-"free" reading ;are GIVING their peronal life details for the astyrologers to practise their hands on for free

what does this sentence mean ? In an online forum supported by technology, if you are not going to submit your personal birth and time details how is any prediction going to be given...by magic ?

and to say that giving their peronal life details for the astrologers to practise their hands on for free is actually insulting the astrologer who is taking the trouble to prepare the horoscope and then analyse it.....how is the astrologer going to use ur personal details ? call up ur family and say that u had an affair? make a house out of horoscopes from east,west,north and south ?what exactly is ECK accusing astrologers of ?

Every astrologer in any village to the greatest metros would have a data bank of horoscopes...This is because of 2-3 factors...once they gain belief in an astrologer by initial predictions coming true, they tend to come back and build a relationship with the astrologer....second the astrologer is also not a static person, h/she is learning and changing everyday and so these would form the basis for further refinement of techniques and thus adding on knowledge.....the more experience you have better you are......

now somebody is commenting on the forum using words and ideas above.....I would consider that as an insult to this forum and the astrologers who sustain this grand noble idea of Vaughnji............

and thus my comment...you are very free to disagree with me as you did......

have a lovely day

thanks and regards,

Arya

[swamykool]

Prasad ji,

This is an open forum and anybody can answer to any post. You are free to voice your opinion. You are free to call somebody elses opinion wrong, maybe dangerous even, provided you supply the proof regarding the mistake in calculations. If you think some of the principles of Vedic Astrology are wrong you are expected to provide the data regarding some cases at least where those principles have been proven wrong. Just calling people names and asking for proof while providing none yourself is not the way to conduct a discussion. When someone does this that person becomes plain irritating and quite naturally other forum members react adversely. Lets hope every participant in this forum keeps this procedure in mind.

Regards
swamykool

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

Good Day,
Dear Mr.Astro Boy Ji.

No doubt you are doing really excellent job, but one thing I should intimate you and others.
Other members started attack / hurting with meaning less words, if some one question you...on some specific topic...finally such Member leaving the forum..
Do you feel really this is the correct way...?

This is not only my opinion, few other members are also having the same...

Astrology is ocean, No one is not expert / Master in this, so always we have to allow others views, some times may be we hurt, but gaining knowledge we have to continue it...

Truth comes only when it questioned? other wise dark will be established as a truth...

Note: Astro Boy Ji,few members feels that if some one question Astroy Boy Ji, then Immediately others start attack / counter...this finally gives some negative opinion on Astro Boy Ji..

I hope you take it my views in constructive way...

I have expressed what I feel...

Sincerely,
prasad

dear prasad-ji,

you have correctly observed the phenomenon when someone questions astroboy astrologically, many ids appear and attack that person. These ids have little or no previous records of astrological posts.
astroboy himself resorts to personal attacks such as on this thread where he called Shilpaji Taxi-Driver, Vermin and many other filthy things.
Two of his friends abuse her and her married life.
thankfully mods deleted some content, but a lot of shameful things are still there for record.
actually I think there are only 2 or 3 posters who appear like there are 6 to 8 people attacking the one who questioned.
the same pattern is repeated on this thread, when a simple astrological query / challange was raised on compatibility subject.

this group of 2 or 3 persons is destroying the free spirit of this forum

the shame on record still on thr KSY thread
http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... f=4&t=7870

namaskar

[bali1938]

Dear Astroboy,
Kindly ignore ECK's emails. He is only trying to instigate you more and more. No point in responding to them.

Thanks.

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

Boy's horoscope,

Negative points,

7th lord is debilitated
lord where 7th is debilitated is again debilitated and combust
4th lord is debilitated in the 2nd
12th lord Moon is in the 2nd
Kuja aspects 7th from the 12th where he is debilitated
Shani dasha has started in june 2010
Sade sati is on

Good points,
Guru aspects lagna lord

Summary ,

Not compatable . I do not recommend matching
Girls Navamsha is afflicted
Boy is going through a tough time
Situation is bad . I feel that the couple may have drifted appart and might also be thinking on the lines of seperation and divorce . Woman will try had to keep it going no doubt . But there is always a breaking point for everything .

Astroboy-ji namaskar,
Unfotunately your compatibility has proven WRONG.
Not just Marginally by Grossly

Boy Alok and girl Mamta got married in 1999.
It is a perfect marriage, extremely happy, two daughters aged 7 and 4.
Mamta is a good mother, good housefwife, good daugther in-law, great homemaker.
Alok is a good husband good fatehr, progressed very well since mariage.
senior project manager is a mininig compnay in Emirates, with about 30 engineers under him.
Earning very well, purchased 2 houses in last 4 years.

Perfect married life.

if you want you can politely write to Alok Ojha
c/o Mrs. I Praveen
PO Box 7628, Dubai
UAE

And you can see WHY such compatibility tests are DANGEROUS

I give you another chance to validate compatibility methods, another case

aug 22, 1981, 5.22am Bhavnagar...girl
aug4, 1982, 76deg5' and 10deg 39'....boy, younger than girl, born in small town in south

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

ECK,

Tell me how to tell that you are not Shilpa in disguise?

Smita

please stick to the topic of discussion.
I will report such off topics to mods
namaskar

[arya]

ECK,

I am here in this forum from August 2010....

So ECK, you are creating multiple aliases and playing AliasWar ...that is ok...i am not....i am a very honest person...i do not need to be like you in any way ...and thank god for that...

Arya

[astroboy]

Like I said ECK , Will you ever speak the truth ??? . You are here just to prove that your ego is bigger than what the sages have written .


I had said this even before I started this ,

by astroboy » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:17 am

ECK , You have asked for a compatability match . I have enclosed it below . Now I know that either ways you will prove me wrong because only you know the current status of the couple, You are dead against me for reasons best known to you and finally , You hold a dim view of compatibility tests . As per me , This is not a good match . You are free to arrive at any conclusion you want .

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

Prasadji,

Kindly answer, What in your opinion should astroboy do as of now ? From what I can see, he has two options:

a. Either continue matching charts because he and the majority here believes in it, based on the scriptural guidelines

OR

b. Stop matching charts because a HANDFUL do not believe in it, as they think Scriptures are just a figment of imagination

If you were in his place what would you like to do ?

Regards
Sonu

namaskar sonu ji,

you have not asked me, but bcoz the orginal query was raised by me i will answer.
astroboy or any astrologer should do a variant of a) continue to match charts.
BUT instead of adopting a scary tone, take a more counselling tone. advise on the shortcomings and propose remedies.
We have seen from the example case I gave him how GROSSLY he can be wrong.
Just bcoz it is written in scriptures doesn't mean it works all the time.
Have you heard Neem-Hakeem Khtrey Jaan?
namaskar
PS* u can also advise astroboy not to attcak others perosnally if his POV is questioned

[astroboy]

by egoCombustsKnowledge » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:29 pm

PS* u can also advise astroboy not to attcak others perosnally if his POV is questioned

ECK , I am a good astrologer . You have reacted , Just like I predicted Thank you . And POV ????????????


How are you doing shilpa ??????????????????

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

Like I said ECK , Will you ever speak the truth ??? . You are here just to prove that your ego is bigger than what the sages have written .


I had said this even before I started this ,

by astroboy » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:17 am

ECK , You have asked for a compatability match . I have enclosed it below . Now I know that either ways you will prove me wrong because only you know the current status of the couple, You are dead against me for reasons best known to you and finally , You hold a dim view of compatibility tests . As per me , This is not a good match . You are free to arrive at any conclusion you want .

namaskar ,
u were pre-emptively trying to cover in case u got it gross wrong.
I have given you the address, you can write to Alok or even speak to him if he is willing.
You will find every detail of his life i gave is correct and you are WRONG by 180deg

namaskar

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

by egoCombustsKnowledge » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:29 pm

PS* u can also advise astroboy not to attcak others perosnally if his POV is questioned

How are you doing shilpa ??????????????????

More off topic, please stick to topic.
this has been reported to the mods.
namaskar

[astroboy]

by egoCombustsKnowledge » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:39 pm
namaskar ,
u were pre-emptively trying to cover in case u got it gross wrong.
I have given you the address, you can write to Alok or even speak to him if he is willing.
You will find every detail of his life i gave is correct and you are WRONG by 180deg

Ask Alok to call me . Let me tell him what is going to happen in a few months time . . Do you stay with Alok and his wife to assess their married life ? or are you going by your own Bias ??

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

ECK,

I am here in this forum from August 2010....my id at that time was meme.....please see the following interaction

Edit postReport this postReply with quote Re: Mass Accidents - Sri.Sarma,prspum and Learned Members
by arya » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:11 pm

Dear AB,
Btw it is not Arya it is Meme....i had deleted my email account which unfortunately led to logging in problems here
for this, i asked my relatives which also included the thantri / hereditary priest of some famous temples *, got references and then did my own research .....
regards,
* : was asked to delete the temple references

So ECK, you are creating multiple aliases and playing AliasWar ...that is ok...i am not....i am a very honest person...i do not need to be like you in any way ...and thank god for that...

Arya

Please stick to the topic, ur comments have nothing to do with astrology, reportes to mods

[astroboy]

by egoCombustsKnowledge » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:40 pm
More off topic, please stick to topic.
this has been reported to the mods.
namaskar

Tell me ECk . have you contradicted me with one dictum at least ??? Something to prove me astrologically wrong ??? You have nothing. How many times have you contributed to this topic with astrological dictums and texts ??? Other than telling me what words I should use , What else have you written here ??? Please dont tell me to stick to the topic . Get a grip on your life . This is not a place for you to vent out your personal frustrations .

[manisha012]

Hello Madam ECK,
Before you accuse me of using a fake idea, let me state I have been on this forum since september. I do not write much but an avid reader of this forum. Here to learn from the likes of astroboy. Now I have no doubts what so ever in my mind that you are shilpa. But let me ignore that for a moment. Have you ever tried analysing why so many people come in support of astroboy? Think for a moment you wil get your answer. He doesn't even know who I am. Why do you think I am coming here and writing all this? Simple reason being I and all the other here have a lot of respect for him, appreciate his selflessness and admire his sincerity and honesty. You are free to dislike all of that. But tell who are you to come and tell him what he has to do and not do? Are you god? Stay out madam. Let the others learn. You are free to get out of this thread if you do not like what is being said. I don't think anybody will miss you.

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

ECK alias Shilpa...my question was not out of bounds as per forum rules so you can go tattle on me as much as you want. In contrast to you I am not trying to instigate a knowledgeable astrologer. There can be a debate about the validity and invalidity of an astrological topic but you are resorting to the blame-game 'astroboy uses different IDs to attack,' my point is that aren't you doing the same for which you are blaming AB for.

BTW, Shilpa oops ECK, I can tell you that my life was picture-perfect until a year and half ago. Whoever came to know about what happened in our lives couldn't believe it. And there are still days when I sit there in disbelief that how did a man like my husband stray. He was and upright person whose character was blameless. But then in Rahu Dasha, rahu transit over his rasi my own Shani mahadasha and shani sadhe saati- made the situation conducive for a break. See my point that when the marriage breaking dasha kicked in the weaknesses in our chart manifested into a disaster. I hope and wish the couple's whose details you posted may tide over the troubles if they do come, but going by what I went through chart-matching does hold water- a lots of it.

Now go ahead go to the moderators...see if I care. And let them tell me what was that I posted that could make them kick me out.

Smita

offtopic and inflammatory, doesn't warrant a response

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

by egoCombustsKnowledge » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:40 pm
More off topic, please stick to topic.
this has been reported to the mods.
namaskar

Tell me ECk . have you contradicted me with one dictum at least ??? Something to prove me astrologically wrong ??? You have nothing. How many times have you contributed to this topic with astrological dictums and texts ???

I gave you astrological chart of couples and you got it grossly wrong. then you started calling me shilpa, that has nothing to do with the topic also

Other than telling me what words I should use , What else have you written here ??? Please dont tell me to stick to the topic . Get a grip on your life . This is not a place for you to vent out your personal frustrations .

yes I have suggested what astrologers shud NOT write, mere suggestions.
you have made perosnal attacks like calling me half baked and frustrated, inspite of getting the Alok-Mamta chart matching GROSSLY wrong.
you are inciting inflammation

[egoCombustsKnowledge]

Hello Madam ECK,
Before you accuse me of using a fake idea, let me state I have been on this forum since september. I do not write much but an avid reader of this forum. Here to learn from the likes of astroboy. Now I have no doubts what so ever in my mind that you are shilpa.

assumptions and conspiracy theories should be discussed in PM or perosnal emails.
Should I ask you to post ur passport to prove ur id and sex?
does it matter.
Please stick to the subject and actual content of post instead of propogating conspiratory theories on the poster. that is digression and inflammation