Combinations for Travel/Stay away from place of birth

[explorings]

Hi.

It's been a long time since I had last visited the forum due to various examinations . I am currently in a situation where an astrological help will be very useful

my details are - 29th March 1991 11-10am Hyderabad

I would like to know the chances of going abroad for higher education. I have a Maha dasa change in March,2012 and I'll be completing my undergraduate bachelor education in may 2012 .

Planning to go abroad by August 2012 for Masters in mechanical.

Thanks a lot .

Ra MD may give you some short travels but prolong stay is doubtful. Ra/Ke are debilitated till Dec 2012. Ju in transit travels over 12th house indicating short journeys. For prolong stay, your 12th house of travel suffers loss as its lord is placed in 11th house, 12L also gets debilitated in navamsa. Similarly 9th house faces a loss as its lord is placed in 8th house and it is debilitated in navamsa. Propitiate Venus and Saturn.

[Expertmodeller]

Hi Explorings,
could you plz look at my chart for abroad stay. first visit during 2001may-02feb and then in 2003 march-May both short term for education. then went again in 2004april for further education and then never returned. now working abroad. i do not want to stay longer and would like to return any time soon back to india potentially with a good job. what are the chances for going back to india? how long would be life abroad.?

planet position in lagna chart:
(1) moon (2) - (3) sun/merc (4) ven/ketu (5) - (6) - (7) mars/jup (8) - (9) sat (10) rah (11) - (12) -
Sagittarius asc

thank you so much
EM

Here are few astrological Indicators for travel/stay away from place of birth:

Combinations for travel/stay in a land away from place of birth is indicated from 7, 9, and 12th house and their lords. Combinations with 3rd house lord indicates short journeys.

1. Travel is indicated in dasha and/or bhukti of the planets owning these houses or planets placed in these houses.
2. Dasha/bhukti of planets associated with moon.
3. If the 7, 9, or 12th house or their lords fall in movable signs like Aries, Cancer, Libra, and Capricorn or water signs like Cancer, Scorpio, or Pisces, then there is a possibility of travel overseas.
4. If the sign is not a movable or water sign, then short-travels are more likely.
5. Transits of planets like Saturn, Jupiter, or Rahu through theses houses indicate short travels.
6. Transit of Saturn over natal Sun. However, such travels are usually troublesome.
7. Rahu is an indicator of foreign travel and if a person is going through Rahu Mahadasha, chances of travel away from your place of birth is high. After this is Jupiter and Saturn MD, which also facilitate foreign travel. If these planets are connected to 7, 9, or 12th house then prolong stay away from place of birth is high.
8. Malefic influence on 12th house makes a person wander from place to place.
9. Sun positioned in 7, 9, or 12th influences journeys.
10. Association of 7th house lord with 9th or 12th house/lord indicates settling in a foreign country.
11. A chart showing majority of these combinations indicates a one way ticket to settling away from place of birth.
12. Association of Venus with these houses indicates a pleasant travel whereas association of 6th or 8th lords or Mars indicates difficulties and/or accidents.


Motive of travel:
1. If the 4th lord is in 12th or if they associated with each other, then chances of residence away from place of birth is high. For such a native living away from place of birth is more auspicious.
2. 4th or 5th house or lord associated with 7, 9, or 12th house/lord indicates travel for education.
3. Association of 2nd, 10th or 11th with 9th and 12th house/lord indicates work or business related travel.
4. Pilgrimages or religious travel is usually influenced by 9th house/lord and association with Jupiter or Sun.
5. 12th house is exile or permanent abandonment

[ap210585]

Hi,

Can someone suggest if I have a yoga to settle or travel abroad for work anytime soon ?

Dear Explorings, you had suggested earlier that the foreign residence is viewed not only from rasi chart but also navamsa chart. request your kind inputs on my above query.

Date of Birth: 21 May 1985
Birth Time: 10.45 am
Place of Birth: Mumbai, India

thanks.

Abhishek

[explorings]

EM: provide ur place of birth... unable to map chart with co-ords

[Expertmodeller]

EM: provide ur place of birth... unable to map chart with co-ords

[uniquev]

[Balwinder]

With regard to foreign travel or residence, I wonder if there is a particular kind of place which an association with 12H will take you to, as opposed to the kind of place a native would go to in case of an association with 9H or 7H. 12H has traditionally denoted exile or a less desirable place like a hospital or a prison. Going abroad to earn money isn't exactly a happy adventure for everybody. For some a foreign residence may bring riches, especially when salaries in most countries are still higher than the average salary in India. But for others there may the feeling of being exiled from one's homeland to a place where one does not belong.

[Expertmodeller]

EM: provide ur place of birth... unable to map chart with co-ords

Hi explorings,
please let me know your observation..
thank you
EM

[npavan]

I agree 100% with Balwinder being in US since 1999 after coming for higher education, i did not see much growth in career or infact even with salary when compared to some of my classmates who make almost double and have a high career profile in India. I had to say this because I was brilliant in all through my schooling and graduated as University Topper in Engineering but could never get a good job and pay inspite of best education.
I am seriously considering returning back to Infia but with less success too. That could be because I zm in the dashs of my 12L who is in the 10H and it started in 2009 after a harsh saturn mahadasha which happened to run in parallel with sade saathi. Saturn is a maraka for my cancer lagna snd is in papakartari in 2H house of wealth hemmed between kuja in cancer and rahu in kanya.

[aseem82]

With regard to foreign travel or residence, I wonder if there is a particular kind of place which an association with 12H will take you to, as opposed to the kind of place a native would go to in case of an association with 9H or 7H. 12H has traditionally denoted exile or a less desirable place like a hospital or a prison. Going abroad to earn money isn't exactly a happy adventure for everybody. For some a foreign residence may bring riches, especially when salaries in most countries are still higher than the average salary in India. But for others there may the feeling of being exiled from one's homeland to a place where one does not belong.

This is true, balwinder ji.

[explorings]

EM: provide ur place of birth... unable to map chart with co-ords

Hi explorings,
please let me know your observation..
thank you
EM

EM: please post your birth details.

[explorings]

Hi,

Can someone suggest if I have a yoga to settle or travel abroad for work anytime soon ?

Dear Explorings, you had suggested earlier that the foreign residence is viewed not only from rasi chart but also navamsa chart. request your kind inputs on my above query.

Date of Birth: 21 May 1985
Birth Time: 10.45 am
Place of Birth: Mumbai, India

thanks.

Abhishek

- 7H, Capricorn (movable). 7L placed in Scorpio/5th house and in Cancer (water) in navamsa.
- 9H, Pisces (water), 7L, Ju placed is debilitated in Capricorn (movable); Ju is exalted in navamsa (water)
- 12H, Gemini, 12L, Mer conjunct with Ra (foreign) in Aries (movable).
- Current dasha: Ju-Ju (debilitated in rasi and exalted in navamsa).

Planets:
- Rahu in movable sign
- Ju debilitated in rasi and exalted in navamsa.
- Moon exalted and in own house in navamsa.
- Venus exalted and placed in 4th house/movable sign in navamsa.

- 4L in 9H. Chances of residence away from place of birth for education.
- 11L in 9H. Chances of travel related to business or work.

The chart shows several yogas for travels and stay away from place of birth. Ra MD may have taken the native away from place of birth. Ju is debilitated and receives drishti from Saturn hence there is mild neech bhanga. Ju is exalted in navamsa, hence benefic effects of Ju MD will be delayed and will come through a lot of efforts from the native.

For now, only short travels is indicated. Possibility of prolong stay away from place of birth will come after 2014 during Sa or Mer AD. Venus and Moon dasha/bhukti will also give prolong stay away from place of birth.

[explorings]

With regard to foreign travel or residence, I wonder if there is a particular kind of place which an association with 12H will take you to, as opposed to the kind of place a native would go to in case of an association with 9H or 7H. 12H has traditionally denoted exile or a less desirable place like a hospital or a prison. Going abroad to earn money isn't exactly a happy adventure for everybody. For some a foreign residence may bring riches, especially when salaries in most countries are still higher than the average salary in India. But for others there may the feeling of being exiled from one's homeland to a place where one does not belong.

very true!

[vpn]

hi all,

details are 6/2/79, 13.24, rajkot. was told by one and all that i will most certainly live away from native land. yes, did college and post-grad outside, back home eversince. have rahu and saturn in the fourth house, tried twice, couldn't relocate, just didn't go through.

many thanks,
vishal.

[ChandraLagna]

Dear VPN -

I will let Explorings analyse this in the spirit of the thread - viz 7,12,3 Houses and their significations. If I take a quick, salad view:
1. 4H is leo - a fixed sign
2. 4L is SUN, posited in Dhanishta - which is deemed as a "Sthiti" nk, which means "stable". Stable as in maintains Status quo.
3. The lords posited in 4H - Saturn and Rahu - are both in Purva Phalugni and that is a Sthiti Nk too

In 3H, you have Jupiter, which is in Pushya.....again a Sthithi Nk ...

Now Moon is in Rohini which is a Sristhi Nk - indicating Desire to create [for purposes of this discussion, to create a travel]. Similarly, Ketu too is in PB, which is creative.

SO, lets see what happens Dec 2012 onwards, Mr. Stability!

[ChandraLagna]

Exploring: pl dont let my interruption come in the way...pl go ahead on vpn's chart.
And, I must add, this is a nice thread !

[explorings]

not at all Arun... its an open forum, anyone can advise.

Vpn, i will add mt two cents later.

[lavanyabivarapu]

Can you pls take a look at my chart regarding staying or settling in abroad.
Oct 9,1974
13:05hrs
Guntur
Thanks

[uniquev]

[Ghrishneswar]

With regard to foreign travel or residence, I wonder if there is a particular kind of place which an association with 12H will take you to, as opposed to the kind of place a native would go to in case of an association with 9H or 7H. 12H has traditionally denoted exile or a less desirable place like a hospital or a prison. Going abroad to earn money isn't exactly a happy adventure for everybody. For some a foreign residence may bring riches, especially when salaries in most countries are still higher than the average salary in India. But for others there may the feeling of being exiled from one's homeland to a place where one does not belong.

This is true, balwinder ji.

Well this is very true. For some people venture into foreign lands has been very successful but for others it has brought misfortune like loss of health, penal action, job loss, lack of comforts.

I think 9H determines may have major role in how your foreign stay may turn out to be. I have heard that there are 3 houses related to foreign stay...7,9 and 12. But Vic Di Cara has pointed put that BPHS also mentions 10H as an important house for foreign stay. I have seen some chart of computer engineers with very strong associations between these houses (7, 9 & 12). In once case there was an exchange of 7 and 12H lords and 9L was with 10L in 12H. Sure sign of foreign stay. On top of it Ra was in 11H.
See this 27-Nov-1975, 8:43 AM, Lucknow.
Another was
13-Oct-1983 6:57 AM, Lucknow. This chart had a misery associated with foreign stay - related to marriage.

[explorings]

Ghrishneswar:

Yes 7, 9, and 12H are primarily related for prolong foreign stay and 3H for short travels.

- I have seen in chart where association of 7L with 12 (PAC) gives prolong stay but distress to married life... thts a downside there itself. Apart from marital disappointments, it also gives strong losses in foreign land or from foreign business partners.

[explorings]

hi all,

details are 6/2/79, 13.24, rajkot. was told by one and all that i will most certainly live away from native land. yes, did college and post-grad outside, back home eversince. have rahu and saturn in the fourth house, tried twice, couldn't relocate, just didn't go through.

many thanks,
vishal.

VPN:

Arun has given pretty good analysis.

- Ju in 3H (Cancer/water) will always give you short travels.

- Parivartana between 4th and 9th house, hence you were away from placed of birth for studies. 5L is also in 9H; confirms that you will travel away from place of birth for higher education.

- 12L and 7L Mars is exalted in 9th house and hence there will be plenty of opportunities for prolong stay away from birth. Possibility of overseas stay.

- Mars is afflicted in both rasi and navamsa hence the stay may not be amicable.

- 4th house is again strong in navamsa.

- Sun in 9th house influences journey.

- Current dasha, Ju-Mer (Ju in 3rd house of short travels and Mer in 9th house)

- Current transit, Ju is in 12th (hence may have given you short travels for pleasure). Next is janma guru transit, which will aspect 7th house and debilitated Rahu. Chances of stay away from place of birth after 2012. effects may be seen a couple of months before.

I believe you will have plenty of short and prolong stay away from place of birth as there are plenty of combinations supporting overseas stay; however you will keep coming back to 4th (jnama bhumi)

[vpn]

hey arunbhai,

thanks for the inputs, but all i could decipher was that it's just my mind that's wanting me to move out and the other factors indicate more towards staying put, is that the right interpretation, arunbhai?

explorings, yes, i've had a few stints away from home, but all were before 2004, the year before i got married, made two more attempts to branch out, somehow didn't really go through...okay, so you feel 2012 end's more when you see it happening, is it? btw, please elaborate on the not so amicable stay away from native land...one more q, do you see me in business in over-seas stay? i so badly wanna branch out of my own but feel i lack the courage or am pure and sheer lazy at times...trust me, once i set my sights, there's no stopping me, but my attention span's also way way way too low...moon at play, perhaps?

yes, explorings, i'd appreciate if you too could throw in more on this, later, at your convenience, ofcourse!

thanks again, arunbhai...

vish

[ChandraLagna]

VPN: Jupiter/Ketu is when there are chances of long distance travel and maybe settlement.

Although Jupiter is in Sthithi NK, basic nature of Jupiter is expansion [or travel ] and being in cancer a watery Rashi further provides impetus to that. Ketu's Ad starts end of this year, which is why I said lets wait and see what happens end of this year.... and my Nakshtra based analysis tallies well with what Explorings has said. IN fact, Explorings has hit the nail on the head....that although you may have even long stints abroad, you will ultimately return "home"!

[explorings]

hey arunbhai,

thanks for the inputs, but all i could decipher was that it's just my mind that's wanting me to move out and the other factors indicate more towards staying put, is that the right interpretation, arunbhai?

explorings, yes, i've had a few stints away from home, but all were before 2004, the year before i got married, made two more attempts to branch out, somehow didn't really go through...okay, so you feel 2012 end's more when you see it happening, is it? btw, please elaborate on the not so amicable stay away from native land...

- Parivartana between two enemies (Sun and Saturn), furthermore, Saturn is retro
- Mars is afflicted




one more q, do you see me in business in over-seas stay?

- 7L lord, which represent business partners is exalted.
- 3L Moon (for self efforts) is exalted but stands alone without any benefic aspect... there is kemadruma yoga but also bhanga of KD. 10L Saturn aspects Moon.
- 10L saturn also aspects 6H and 10H but saturn is inimical.
- LL and 6L (service) are same (venus) and placed in house of adversities (death, litigations, etc.)
- 9L is action packed.
- 11L (quick financial gains), Jupiter is retro and exalted hence act as debilitated planet.
- Caution is recommended in business matters.


i so badly wanna branch out of my own but feel i lack the courage or am pure and sheer lazy at times...trust me, once i set my sights, there's no stopping me, but my attention span's also way way way too low...moon at play, perhaps?



yes, explorings, i'd appreciate if you too could throw in more on this, later, at your convenience, ofcourse!

thanks again, arunbhai...

vish