Miseries and Misfortunes

[shilpa]

let's look at the recent calamity in the life of Mohd Azharuddin...who lost his teenaged son in a bike accident....in the light of the misery and misfortune principles.

Feb 9th, 1963......22:25.......Hyderabad

Rahu conjunts with a debilitated Mars and hence malefic....in the 11th house.....instigating the evil desires

Rahu is transitting over the Trimamsa Lagna.....whihc can be a misfortunate period in native's life even if Rahu is positive in his chart...and when malefic it can unleash havoc. Not only is it transitting over the Asc Rahu in transit is also aspecting the natal Asc. Lord( mars) and Rahu

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Further, Azhar is running Rahu MD and Rahu's transit over the scorio ( his house of Asc in d30) is going to last about 14 more months.....let us see how that pans out for him?

regards

[Satya]

Shilpa,

Giving my own chart a try, do correct me if I go wrong.

I have Aries lagna in D30, which is rasi 9th house, it fits as the biggest misfortune so far in life is losing my father early in life. It also fits with afflicted 9th house in D1. 9th house In D30 also has Venus afflicted by the nodes and without any benefic influence.

As for 8th in D30, again lord is lagna lord Mars in lagna, I assume lagna lord is not malefic although Mars is natural malefic. Mars is also YK in D1. 8th is also aspected by a strong exalted Moon. So afflictions not going to get too miserable?

12th is Sun (5th lord) in Pisces, aspected by its lord Jupiter but also strong Saturn, by 3rd dristi. So is the exit by mantra And religious practices, as Sun rules 5th house and Jupiter rules 9th? Or as even Sun is malefic, there is no exit?

Thanks for bringing up interesting topics.

Satya

Ps: I just checked, Rahu was transiting Scorpio when I lost my father, not Aries or D30 lagna

[explorings]

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[Ghrishneswar]

When I see Jagjit Singh's chart and his D-30, I can see his misfortune with repect to childern very clearly.

Feb 8, 1941, 11:50 AM, Ganganagar, India.

His D30 lagna is virgo and lord is mercury.
In rasi virgo owns fifth house, see the fate of his children, biological son died at 19 and step daughter commited suicide some time back.
D30 lagna is occupied by debilitated Ve with Ra and Ketu.
This is a very malefic combo.
D30 lagna itself is problematic, add neecha planet with both nodes, it weakens the entire chart irrespective of any other subha yoga, when lagna or lagna lord are weak or under papakartari yoga no good comes out..the native fails to experience any other good yogas.

His childern's fate was very tragic.
His D30 chart makes to very obvious..Had there been a benefic in 12H of D30 there could have been some escape. His losses were colossal.
His saptamsa D7 does not reveal this issue to the extent that D30 does.

May God rest his soul in peace.

[shilpa]

When I see Jagjit Singh's chart and his D-30, I can see his misfortune with repect to childern very clearly.

Feb 8, 1941, 11:50 AM, Ganganagar, India.

His D30 lagna is virgo and lord is mercury.
In rasi virgo owns fifth house, see the fate of his children, biological son died at 19 and step daughter commited suicide some time back.
D30 lagna is occupied by debilitated Ve with Ra and Ketu.
This is a very malefic combo.
D30 lagna itself is problematic, add neecha planet with both nodes, it weakens the entire chart irrespective of any other subha yoga, when lagna or lagna lord are weak or under papakartari yoga no good comes out..the native fails to experience any other good yogas.

His childern's fate was very tragic.
His D30 chart makes to very obvious..Had there been a benefic in 12H of D30 there could have been some escape. His losses were colossal.
His saptamsa D7 does not reveal this issue to the extent that D30 does.

May God rest his soul in peace.

Good observations Grishneshwar.

Yes D30 is a very sensitive indicator to the miseries and misfortunes in human lives.
Transits of Malefics if more accurately marked in D30 in my experience than any other charts.

regards

[Hina]

Shilpaji,

How about analyzing Jagjeet Singh's rashi chart. Can one see his immense success in D-1? You can see his Mars in 8th house playing the role in his marital break-up.

Is Rahu in 5 th house responsible for the kids' tragic end? The dispositor Me is in 10th but is moving towards deb.

Thanks!

[shilpa]

Shilpaji,

How about analyzing Jagjeet Singh's rashi chart. Can one see his immense success in D-1? You can see his Mars in 8th house playing the role in his marital break-up.

Is Rahu in 5 th house responsible for the kids' tragic end? The dispositor Me is in 10th but is moving towards deb.

Thanks!

Dear Hina,


Did his marriage break-up? I thouhgt from late 60s according to Wikipedia he was happily married till the end to Chitra?

Jagjit singh is..Tarus Asc using Local mean time, since the year of birth is 1941.... with Jup and a debilitated shani conjunct in the 12th house

--Ketu is in the 11th house but is in the Nakshatra of shani that is debilitated in the 12th house........so Ketu is acting like debilitated shani.

-- Rahu is in the nakshtra of Moon.....moon is afflicted and innimical by sitting in the house of bitter enemy Mercury... throuhg Nakshtra placement Rahu is a malefic for the chart.

--Rahu-Ketu and shani are malefic for his chart troubling him all his life. Rahu is in the 5th house spoiling the 5th house.....but that alone doesn't give such tragic circumstances to all those who have such a configuration.

--as Grishneshwar pointed....his 5th house is Virgo and Virgo is the Trimsamsa (D-30) Lagna, and also contains Rahu and Ket and debilitated Ve in D30.
and per the analysis rules for D30.....Virgo becomes the seat of miseries and misfortunes in the rasis chart......and in his case...particularly severe because Virgo is destroyed in Trimsamsa.

--He lost his 19 year old son right at the end of the malefic Shani's MD......when transitory shani and Rahu were aspecting the 5th house of children in Rasi chart and lagna house in Trimsamsa.

--combiantions of shani, rahu, ket periods and transits would have brought severe situations in his life and his end came in one of the combined dire configuration of these 3 planets in transit and MD-AD asd explained here

http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/ph ... 083#p94083

-- His successes were his creativity and talent based and hence are denoted from his Navamsa, also observed in the thread quoted above.

regards

[mugdha]

Dear Ms. Shilpa

Interesting topic

in my chart D30 lord is gemini combust mercury in lagna
in D1 it is 7 n 10th lord. and with 9th lord sun. that should be lucky isnt it?

i am unmarried yet with no interesting prospects currently. However i have done reasonably well in my career as landscape architect.
is d30 mercury reason for delay in marriage?

also in D30 guru rahu n ketu are in 6th house. what would it mean?

thanks in advance
mugdha

[ChandraLagna]

Mugdha,
There is a non D-30 answer as well for your query, but that will take away from the spirit of this thread. If you care to, you could post your query on the Readings section...and I'd take it there.

[mugdha]

thank you for the reply

i also want to know the d30 answer, i have tried to apply what i have read in this topic, however the nodes and guru in the same house have confused me...

but i have posted it in relationships section as per your instructions.

what i am basically trying to do is read on this forum and make sence of my chart. i wonder if this mercury is going to affect my business partnership as well!

[shilpa]

Dear Ms. Shilpa

Interesting topic
DOB 1st july 1977, Mumbai, @ 19.45

in my chart D30 lord is gemini combust mercury in lagna
in D1 it is 7 n 10th lord. and with 9th lord sun. that should be lucky isnt it?

i am unmarried yet with no interesting prospects currently. However i have done reasonably well in my career as landscape architect.
is d30 mercury reason for delay in marriage?

also in D30 guru rahu n ketu are in 6th house. what would it mean?

thanks in advance
mugdha

dear mugdha,
--your horoscope shows most d-charts having asc. conjunct with Moon....it;s rare and interesting

--your D60 shows chandra lagna afflicted by Ket and d60 on the 1-7 axis of.......maternal curses carried forward into this life...impacting the 7th house area i.e relationship.
How is your relationship with your motehr.....is she your dependent?

--trimsamsa lagna is Gemini and YES as per the triamsa interpretation rules....the area of your life biggest source of trouble is the gemini in the rasi chart...whihc is the 7th house of relationships

--eight of trimsamsa shows the planet responsible for troubles....shanidev is seated there...but since shani is in his own house......means that he will not be out and out malefic...appeasement will make him relent.

--finally the exit path is shown by 12th in trimsamsa.....and there is benefic Venus seated in his own house.....you will find the love of your life

--and aligned with karmik curses indication of D60 and the troubled house of Gemini in D30...we see the 7th house in D1 is afflicted because of a badly combust 7th lord Me therein.
Hpowever.....note Me is still in swakshetra and offsets some of bad due to combustion...
and Venus the marraige karak is strong in Rasi as well as many higher D charts showing an amsabal of 5.....ensuring comfotable life and eventually you should find the love of your life.

--serve your motehr and maternal women well, do good to your maid servants, serve in old age and destitutes home for women....support financially the marriage of some needy girls/women...to repay the karmik debts...and you should soon see relationship possibilites open up.

regards

[mugdha]

Dear shilpa

Thank you for the reply

My relationship with mother is complicated..i mean i give all the credit to her for inculcatiing all the good habits i have and giving me a cultural elevation in my life. whatever good i have in me is because of her hands down. however i tend to have a bitter fights with her as well. but that is due to the fact that she is sticlker for neatness and prefection in evry aspect of life and i am selectively perfect. Also i have always found myself fighting back and answering back my relatives including my paternal grandmother on my mother's behalf. i may have any conficts with her but i take my sword out the moment i see anybody else troubling her.

i have a more friendly relationship with my dad and i feel that i am more like my dad...more optimistic. my mother is a worrier.

about venus...
in my D1 he is 6 and 11th lord in 6th house. so i supposed Ve will not be good for me. However i have a few but amazingly amazing set of friends. and some years back a astrologer mentioned that i will end up marrying a person whom i have known a while / friend / within our social circle/ relation! what can be your take on this (all my friends are already married ...hee hee hee)

Also why is it intersting that my moon is in ascendent?

[shilpa]

Dear shilpa

Thank you for the reply

My relationship with mother is complicated..i mean i give all the credit to her for inculcatiing all the good habits i have and giving me a cultural elevation in my life. whatever good i have in me is because of her hands down. however i tend to have a bitter fights with her as well. but that is due to the fact that she is sticlker for neatness and prefection in evry aspect of life and i am selectively perfect. Also i have always found myself fighting back and answering back my relatives including my paternal grandmother on my mother's behalf. i may have any conficts with her but i take my sword out the moment i see anybody else troubling her.

i have a more friendly relationship with my dad and i feel that i am more like my dad...more optimistic. my mother is a worrier.

about venus...
in my D1 he is 6 and 11th lord in 6th house. so i supposed Ve will not be good for me. However i have a few but amazingly amazing set of friends. and some years back a astrologer mentioned that i will end up marrying a person whom i have known a while / friend / within our social circle/ relation! what can be your take on this (all my friends are already married ...hee hee hee)

Also why is it intersting that my moon is in ascendent?

thx for the feedback on relationship with mother.
Venus is in swakshetra...and hence it is positive...and brings out the positive side of 6th house significations such as ability to overcome hurdles, focus on profession and sevrice.....and 11th house is for good income from job.
Venus is controubing to your earning and good professional success as well as confortable living

[mugdha]

Dear Shilpa

Thank you for your time.

Just one more request.... if you could delete the Birth data from your quoted text? that would be great!

regards
mugdha

[Snehal]

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[acharyav]

Hello,

My trimshamsha is as follows:

Meena Lagna
Meena (1st house): Exalted Venus
Vrishabha (3rd house): Sun and Moon
Mithuna (4th house): Mars
Kanyaa (7th house): Jupiter and Rahu Ketu with Saturn
Vrischika (9th house): Mercury (parivartana with Mars should take place)

My D1 and D9 are both Vrishabha Lagna so the lagna lord of D30 is a malefic for me allround (Jupiter).

Will my marriage be affected because Jupiter is with RK and Saturn? There are no such indications in my Rashi and Navamsha chart (Venus in Rohini Vargottama and Mars in Scorpio/Aries in both charts) so both planets are in good positions but can the Trimshamsha override these significations and deny marriage to me? I am so worried about this - please please let me know. Thank you.

[vnt5007]

Dear Shilpaji,
Can you please tell me my D-30 . will be really gratefull.
dob---27 april 1976
tob---10:09 PM night time
pob: Charkhari, Dist. Mahoba, (UP), india
Thanks

[vikram_ultimate]

But why is it that in many of the divisional charts Rahu and Ketu are together in a single house ,in my trimasamsa chart Rahu and Ketu are in 12th house ,ascendant is Pisces.


just giving my birth details for reference


April 16th 1986
16:58
Chennai,Tamilnadu

[vikram_ultimate]

Does this mean planets in kendra in Trimsamsa chart are actually malefic then ...?

[girla123]

Dear Shilpaji,
With respect to the PM i had sent you please analyse my D30 chart.
My Birth details are,
18-10-1972
9:30PM
Mumbai

Await your reply
Thanks and Regards.
Girla 123

[shilpa]

Dear Girla123,
sorry it took me a while to get back as I have been busy lately with my work.

Here is a quick review of your Rasi and higher charts:


--there is rare occurence of a debilitated Surya in your Rasi chart and every D-chart from the dasavarga group going all the way to Dwadasama.

This includes....Surya as the 4th Lord in Rasi and worst of all Surya as the Navamsa Lagna Lord. Navamsa is the chart of happiness and content.

--Your problems may have been triggered in the Surya antardasa during the Jup MD.

--you should do surya namaskar, surya Jal arpan, surya mantra daily, fast on Sundays and make donations if you can.

--such a repeat occurence of a negative pattern in multiple D-charts is indicative of a curse carried forward.
D60 shows sun innimical in the 6th hosue( counting from chandra lagna) of shani and afflicted by ket that is in ati-sheetak amasa.

--however there are a number of positive karmas also as indicated by exalted Venus and shani in D60.

--Further positives......The rasi chart has Jup in Swakshtera as lord of 11th in 8th implying never a shortage of money and access to wealth from other sources....and navamsa 10th Lord Venus is in swakshtra......further dasamasa has Exalted Venus, swakshetra Jupiter, exalted Moon.....all indicating that sources such as relatives and spouse will continue to support monetarily.

--Just that surya's extraordinary weakness kills the dominance, leadership, pride type of accomplishments out of life....and given that he is also the navamsa lagna lord....deprive overall content in life,

--In addtion to the remedy of porpitating surya....at the karmik level...you should try to donate to and serve also if you can find time.....old men at old age homes......old beggars i.e paternal aged old needy and downtrodden.....for faster disssolution of possible curses.

Regards

[girla123]

Dear Shipaji,
Thanks for your reply. I will try and follow the remedies suggested by you.

There are some other few things i would want you to guide me with, since it is now evident that the weakness of my sun is the reason of most of my dificulties...and that there is a probable curse which i am carrying which is indicated by ketu conjunct sun in my D60..i would want to know:

Is the curse from the fathers side since Sun represents Father....
And since shani is my ninth lord so can it be said that it is giving its Badhakapati results for my lagna in its Mahadasha Period
So can we say that my coming up sat-sun period is going to bad or posed with more challanges.
And also what abt rest of my Sat Dasha becos it is my YK and AK dasha..will i get benifits frm this dasha or not.

Also pls if u could provide some reading based on my D30 chart as i am not able to relate it based on the guideline you have mentioned in this thread, and also that i had asked your advise on if any BTR is req becos with 9:30 pm my D-10 looks too good to be true.....does my birth time matches with the my events, like marraige, child birth which i had shared with you.

Await your valuable inputs.
Regards,
GSV

[shilpa]

Dear Shipaji,
Thanks for your reply. I will try and follow the remedies suggested by you.

There are some other few things i would want you to guide me with, since it is now evident that the weakness of my sun is the reason of most of my dificulties...and that there is a probable curse which i am carrying which is indicated by ketu conjunct sun in my D60..i would want to know:

Is the curse from the fathers side since Sun represents Father....
And since shani is my ninth lord so can it be said that it is giving its Badhakapati results for my lagna in its Mahadasha Period
So can we say that my coming up sat-sun period is going to bad or posed with more challanges.
And also what abt rest of my Sat Dasha becos it is my YK and AK dasha..will i get benifits frm this dasha or not.

Also pls if u could provide some reading based on my D30 chart as i am not able to relate it based on the guideline you have mentioned in this thread, and also that i had asked your advise on if any BTR is req becos with 9:30 pm my D-10 looks too good to be true.....does my birth time matches with the my events, like marraige, child birth which i had shared with you.

Await your valuable inputs.
Regards,
GSV

--the curse could be father or a paternal uncle..or even your professional master or the governnment / ruler that you might have cheated severly.....i.e a figure of authority who you might have wronged.

--shani period is not totally bad for you....shani is mixed for your chart in fact more good than bad with an amasabala of 4 in higher charts...and your shortcomigns are inspite of shani...and not because of him
once the advserse yoogas are triggered......such as in Jup-Su period and probably coupled with a fast moving transit of sun....then they act life long.

--In D-9 BT asc. changes within 3 minutes of changing BT...but the events corelate with the current BT.

even if the BT was changed to move the lagna by one house.....the strong planets would still remain strong in your D10.

however D10 is a supplementary chart hanging from the rasi chart.

and life isn't totally bad.....there ain't a rank malefic or a malefic conjunction in your charts.
otehr then the discussed weakness of Sun.

--The D30 shows a couple of things of note......Ra was transitting over your D30 lagna and this is a stressful period, even when rahu is positive for a chart.
Rahu is positive for your chart.....by conjunction with strong Jup.
If Ra was malefic things could have been much worse.

the next 1.5 year will be no better or worse ...similar mildly stressful.......as rahu moves to Libra and will transit over your nodes in D30.

--addtional Rahu appeasement and propitation will help.

--But bear in mind transits don't change the course of your life....they bring out both the positves and negatives that are promised in your natal charts...and otehr than the debility of sun across multiple D charts...there is not an mjor weakness/v affliction in yoru chart.

regards

[girla123]

Thank You Shilpaji,
That sums up almost every thing but just one more thing...what does exalted sun in my d30 mean, considering that my sun is debilated in most of my other charts. Do exalted planets in d30 mean bad karma or give bad results.

Rgds,
GSV