Maturity age planets

[whitelily]

Dear all,

I read that Saturn gives its effects after it reaches the age of 36. The native will start feeling the effects after he/she turns 35. A similar principle also applied to other planets.

I didn't quite understand the statement. Don't planets always give their effects, especially when you are under their MD or AD? Should I read in it that at that age they give their full effects? But then how are full effects different from "half" effects? Saturn for example is known for creating hurdles and delays. I don't see how full effects in such cases would be different from half effects. Does it mean that the hurdles and difficulties increase, in intensity and duration, after the planet reaches 36?

Can somebody explain it to me?

[Akash]

My understanding is that the planets DO give their effects, however, until maturity their effects can be erratic. So their effects would be more predictable I would imagine after maturity. If someone with more knowledge could confirm/correct me that would be good

[Khoo Hock Leong]

This is taken from Veno's website :

Planets and houses are said to give their maturity effects at certain ages in a person's life. The planets are more significant in this regard. When a planet matures at a certain age, the full potential of the planet will be able to manifest at that time. Whatever a planet promises in the chart, will be clearly visible in a person's life at that age.

This is a very important method of prediction and can often work like magic. In some cases just knowing a person's age without having access to their chart can give you a strong idea of what they are experiencing in life and how that planet corresponding to their age actually functions in their chart. The maturity planet will show its intrinsic nature as well as the results of its chart placement. The intensity of its effects will last until the next planet matures.

Example of Saturn :

Saturn's maturity age (35th birthday) 36th year, can usher in important changes. A person may experience some form of upheaval or find more security and stability in their life. Whatever a person has been working hard towards in the house that Saturn occupies, will give its full results at this age.

[anilesh47]

Hii Khoo,

I need some more information on this topic, I am keenly interested to read it. I have read somewhere that Venus take part in peroson's vicissitude after 25 years, mars after 28 years, Jupiter after 16 years... Is it true? Also i have heard that if "kaal sarp yoga"exist in anyone's chart, the person' luck will start after the age of 32. Is it true??

Regards
Nilesh

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Anilesh

You can go to Veno's website under his blog, there is an article on The Maturity Age of Planets.

Or on second thoughts here is the whole article :

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"Maturity of Planets & Houses" by Veno

What makes Vedic Astrology superior to other Divination systems, including Western Astrology, is its level of accuracy and precision in prediction. Predictive methods are based on very complex calculations and there are numerous methods which will pinpoint timing down to the exact minute. However there is a simple method which gives remarkable results and should be taken into account when seeing a chart.
Planets and houses are said to give their maturity effects at certain ages in a person's life. The planets are more significant in this regard. When a planet matures at a certain age, the full potential of the planet will be able to manifest at that time. Whatever a planet promises in the chart, will be clearly visible in a person's life at that age.

This is a very important method of prediction and can often work like magic. In some cases just knowing a person's age without having access to their chart can give you a strong idea of what they are experiencing in life and how that planet corresponding to their age actually functions in their chart. The maturity planet will show its intrinsic nature as well as the results of its chart placement. The intensity of its effects will last until the next planet matures.

AGE WHEN PLANETS GIVE THEIR FULL EFFECTS

Jupiter Matures at 15 - 20 years of age (peak 16)
Sun Matures at 22 years of age
Moon Matures at 24 years of age
Venus Matures 25 - 27 years of age (peak 25)
Mars Matures at 28 - 31 years of age (peak 28)
Mercury Matures at 32 - 35 years of age (peak 32)
Saturn Matures at 36 - 39 years of age (peak 36)
Rahu Matures at 42 - 47 years of age (peak 42)
Ketu Matures at 48 - 54 years of age (peak 48)

Jupiter's maturity age (15th birthday) 16th year, will often give some special opportunities, wealth, or higher learning (Jupiter's natural significations) and whatever else it indicates in the chart.
Sun's maturity age (21st birthday) 22nd year, will bring out the person's underlying tendencies to the fore, and if well placed is an important time for professional advancement, along with whatever else Sun indicates in the chart.

Moon's maturity age (23rd birthday) 24th year, will show some psychological maturity. Whatever else the Moon indicates in the chart will come to the fore.

From one's 24th birthday (25th year) Venus will mature. As a natural significator of love a person will generally expect some romance even marriage in their life, if supported by the main horoscope. Venus will also give the effects of its chart placement.

Mars maturity age (27th birthday) 28th year, will see a person developing more initiative and independence in their life. Mars will also give the effects of its chart placement.

Mercury's maturity age (31st birthday) 32nd year, will see more intellectual development and important communication activities taking place. Mercury will also give the effects of its chart placement.

Saturn's maturity age (35th birthday) 36th year, can usher in important changes. A person may experience some form of upheaval or find more security and stability in their life. Whatever a person has been working hard towards in the house that Saturn occupies, will give its full results at this age.

Rahu's maturity age (41st birthday ) 42nd year, can make one more focused on the opportunities for growth that Rahu signifies in the chart.

Ketu's maturity age (47th birthday) 48th year, is an important time for introspection and reflection on how one has developed up till now in their lives. It can be an important spiritual turning point.

If a planet is afflicted in a chart, when it reaches maturity the full negative potential of that planet will be able to manifest. As an example, if Saturn were badly placed in the 4th house of a horoscope, at the age of 36 a person will have some kind of emotional crisis or difficulties with property matters. Saturn is sure to show its more negative inherent traits such as obstacles, delays, miserliness, over attachment and poverty. If this Saturn were also ruler of the 5th and 6th house it will show obstructions in love affairs, creativity, children (5th house) and problems with debts, enemies and health (6th house). On the other hand if Saturn is a strong benefic or yogakaraka then one may see a sudden rise in fortune at the age of 36.

To continue .....

[Khoo Hock Leong]

MATURITY AGE OF HOUSES

Houses are said to mature at certain times in a person's life also. If a person has a particularly strong or weak house it will show its effect quite obviously during the period of its duration, alongside other more important predictive factors.
9th House Maturity Age (1-24 yrs)
10th House Maturity Age (25 - 26 yrs)
11th House Maturity Age (27 -28 yrs)
12th House Maturity Age (29 - 30 yrs)
1st House Maturity Age (31 - 33 yrs)
2nd House Maturity Age (34 - 36 yrs)
3rd House Maturity Age (37 - 39 yrs)
4th House Maturity Age (40 - 45 yrs)
5th House Maturity Age (46 - 51 yrs)
6th House Maturity Age (52 - 57 yrs)
7th House Maturity Age (58 - 65 yrs)
8th House Maturity Age (66 yrs onwards)

Up to 24 years of age when the 9th house is giving effects, a person will be very much at the mercy of their fortune or misfortune, depending on the strength of the 9th house in the chart. This is a time when a person develops their main outlook and approach to life , and finds their destined path or general life direction.

From one's 24th birthday to 26 years of age, one's career often becomes an important point of focus, and trying to attain professional recognition. From one's 26th birthday to 28 years of age, social opportunities may manifest, along with focusing on one's ability for wealth and profits and trying to achieve major ambitions and long term goals.

From one's 28th birthday to 30 years of age, a person may have to deal with issues of loss, long distance travel may be important, along with spiritual awakening and seeking a greater meaning to existence.
From one's 30th birthday to 33 years of age, a person may be trying to formulate their self identity and become more independent.

From one's 33rd birthday to 36 years of age, a person may be focused on earning money, development of speech and acquiring knowledge.

From one's 36th birthday to 39 years of age, a person may be fostering their independence and initiative, and learning to handle communication in a more effective manner. New creative skills may be taken up at this time.

From one's 39th birthday to 45 years of age, a person may be concerned more about inner stability and settling down in a permanent home.

From one's 45th birthday to 51 years of age, new creative activities may spring up, along with concentration on one's children and their lives.

From one's 51st birthday to 57 years of age, a person may have to focus more on their health and whatever else their 6th house indicates in the chart.

By one's 57th birthday to 65 years of age, a person has learnt to deal with relationships in a certain way.

From one's 65th birthday onwards a person has to confront issues about death and the mysteries of life.

Wrmest Regards
Hock Leong

[anilesh47]

Thanks khoo, It is very important and useful.

What abt kaal sarp yoga belief? Is it true that after 32 age kaal sarp yoga starts whom have ksy in chart.?

Regards
Nilesh

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi anilesh

Let me check on a reference on this and I will get back to you.

By the way I have great respect Bhasin after reading his astrological books and he mentioned that kaala sarpa yoga only operates if Rahu is in the 1st to 6th Bhavas from Lagna with no planets either with Rahu or with Ketu. He did mention about the age dealing with this yoga as well.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Anilesh

I found out. the content you are looking for is actually from Sastri - Textbook of Hindu Astrology Part I and not from Bhasin.

Here are the excerpts.

(l) The first is Kalasarpa. Lagna has to be lncluded. If all
the planets are in the first seven houses, it is generally good
for spiritual activities; if from the second to the eighth
houses, it is bad for finances; if from the third to the ninth,
the native advocates unpopular causes and comes to lime
light; if from the fourth to the tenth, the native faces difficul'
ties, disappointments, failures and disgrace, and the children
cause discomfort; if from the fifth to the eleventh, he
misuses the trust, and has bad friends; if from the sixth to
the twelfth, there can be imprisonment.

Notice that since Lagna has to be included, it means the planets must lie from Ketu and then going towards Rahu. Sastri do not recognise the other semi-circle although if you see the earlier posts, other sources do. I think those going to Rahu are more relevant to the connotation of what Kala Sarpa Yoga mean.

More excerpts follow from another part of the book :

Next there is the Kalasarpa Yoga which arises when all
the planets are between Rahu and Ketu and if there is no
planet with these. When the Lagna and the planets are
between Rahu and Ketu, it is mild. If l-agna or Rahu has the
aspe-t of Jupiter, it is Mahapadma Yoga. If the aspect is
from Venus, it is Padrta Yoga. Both these are benefics. If in
that position we find Mercury, Moon, Sun, Mars, Mandi, or
Saturn, the Yogas are called respectively Shankha, Ananta,
Vasuki, Takshaka, Qulika, l{arkotaka. Ananta and Vasuki
are mild Yogas. Shankha, Padma and Mahapadma arej
harmless. Karkotaka, Culika and Takshaka are ferocious.
These cause difficulties and serious problems upto the age
27, 35, 36 or 48.

From the above you can also see that if any planet conjuncts Rahu or Ketu, then there is no Kala Sarpa. Dinesh Mathur only recognises planets conjuncting Rahu as destroying the signification of Kala Sarpa Yoga but Sastri recognises both. I tend to go with Sastri at the moment unlike last time since nodes when conjuncting other planets take up the nature of the other planets and that makes the ends of the snake lose its signification whether Rahu or Ketu.

Also you can see if certain aspects occur to Lagna or Rahu (note that Lagna must be included between the two ends of the snake to be recognised as a Kala Sarpa according to the 1st excerpt above), the Kala Sarpa Yoga can be rendered benign.

As for your question on the ages, there is a reference to that as well.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[anilesh47]

Hii Khoo,

thanks for your great useful input.

If someone has rahu in 12 and ketu in 6th. In this case lagna include aswellas lagna lord and rahu is in samasaptaka aspect. But rahu is joining with two another planets. So Here Kaal sarp yoga, should we consider?.. It is said about kaal sarp yoga that it gives rise and fame in some cases, but depends upon strength of the yoga.

As you said Rahu has the aspect of Jupiter is mahapadma yoga. If rahu has no aspect of jupiter but is in nakshatra of Jupiter (Punarvasu), can we consider it mahapadma yoga?

Regards
Nilesh

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Anilesh

Actually there was another sentence in the book which says that

Rahu has to be ahead of the Ascendant if order for Kala Sarpa Yoga to occur.

This means if Rahu is in the 12th and Ketu in the 6th, there is no Kala Sarpa Yoga. Kala Sarpa Yoga only exists when Rahu is from 1st to 6th Bhavas with planets running from Ketu towards Rahu and Lagna is thus sandwiched between Ketu and Rahu, lying on the side of the semicircle where the planets are placed.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[Khoo Hock Leong]

Hi Anilesh

Note the underbelly snake is not recognised by Sastri. That is planets running from Rahu towards Ketu as discussed earlier in the forum.

In the direction of signs, it should be planets running from Ketu towards Rahu as stated above.

Warmest Regards
Hock Leong

[whitelily]

Thanks for your replies guys. Can members please tell, based on their experience at analysing charts, whether or not it (the text about maturity of planets which Khoo Hock Leong provided) holds any true?