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by astro123 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 11:37 am
thanks for ur input Kunal.. I am still new to the concept of arudhas and Narayan dashas..The ND shows that i am supposed to commence a good period while I am going thru a malefic MD and AD from Vimshottari pt of view which is what has got me confused..Generally both dashas shud overlap wrt each other..Also there are many diff ways of calculating arudhas..Some use exceptions while some dont ..Many calculate arudha padas using longitudes and others use sign based calculations ..I had just added my 2 cents to what u have experienced with ur AL..
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Please post your birth details. Let Atsrosonu analyse.We will come to some positive conclusion.


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hi astro123

you approach is information to me.tnx for mentioning the connection with Narayana Dasha. :) is there any book on this?
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kandhan wrote:hi astro123

you approach is information to me.tnx for mentioning the connection with Narayana Dasha. :) is there any book on this?
Not aware of any books ..maybe Astrosonu could recommend a few that may be useful

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PVR's lessons in astrology is a good guide. It can be searched for a pdf on net itself. Its free i think.
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Sonu ji and Kandhan ji,

This much I understood that Sonu is using conditional arudhas while kandhan is not using them. Will give my feed back as I understand the rest. Thanks for the effort guys. :D

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conditional arudhas.. :( .. This is phase 2 of maya/illusion for me on this thread :mrgreen: ..pl clarify !!!
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What settings is being used by u in JHora (assuming u r working on Jhora) for calculating arudha padas ?
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astro123 wrote:@astrosonu

What settings is being used by u in JHora (assuming u r working on Jhora) for calculating arudha padas ?
jhora 7.52 beta sss and savana year for dasha calculations. Uncheck exact longitude in arudha calculations because for AL rasi dasa narayana dasha is used
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astrosonu wrote:
astro123 wrote:@astrosonu

What settings is being used by u in JHora (assuming u r working on Jhora) for calculating arudha padas ?
jhora 7.52 beta sss and savana year for dasha calculations. Uncheck exact longitude in arudha calculations because for AL rasi dasa narayana dasha is used
thanks astrosonu..What abt exceptions...use them or not use them ?
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Sonu ji,

Like an arudha cannot fall in the same rashi or 7th to it. And you have to take a jump of 10 Hs. Example my lg is in in Tula and LL is in Mesh. Traditional Arudha (AL) lagna is in Tula (followed by K N Rao) conditional AL is in Karka. My limited understanding.

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swamykool wrote:Sonu ji,

Like an arudha cannot fall in the same rashi or 7th to it. And you have to take a jump of 10 Hs. Example my lg is in in Tula and LL is in Mesh. Traditional Arudha (AL) lagna is in Tula (followed by K N Rao) conditional AL is in Karka. My limited understanding.

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what is traditional and Conditional AL.. I though there is supposed to be only one AL..getting even more confused now..!!
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what is traditional and Conditional AL.. I though there is supposed to be only one AL..getting even more confused now..!!
astro 123,

welcome to the club. :mrgreen: In JHora there is a option in the preference tab, under setting up arudhas it offers you the option of using exceptions (followed by SJC) and not using exceptions (followed by K N Rao). Try it out.

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swamykool

thanks , i see it now...so with exceptions is traditional and without it is condtional .?? My AL does not change either way but a few other arudhas do change
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There is book by S Rath on subject.
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astro123 wrote:
astrosonu wrote:
astro123 wrote:@astrosonu

What settings is being used by u in JHora (assuming u r working on Jhora) for calculating arudha padas ?
jhora 7.52 beta sss and savana year for dasha calculations. Uncheck exact longitude in arudha calculations because for AL rasi dasa narayana dasha is used
thanks astrosonu..What abt exceptions...use them or not use them ?
YES. I follow SRath and PVR. Default settings to be used here.
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astro123,

Nooo, without exceptions is traditional, with exceptions is conditional.
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Sonu ji and Kandhan ji,

Ok, now here's my feed back.
here is my skewed analysis of 10th bhava.

A10 and L10 both placed in 10th from AL influenced by Ven/Merc. native's job is perceived(oops) as artistic/intellectual and apt for him. he agrees. .

A10 placed fourth from AL in D-10: Native is perceived as happy/content with his job/jeevana. L10 is in AL. So native has a positive view of his job.
so, harmony all around.
No, job is mostly routine. File work and computers. Though many times I have to use backhanded and devious tactics (artistry/kalakari :mrgreen: ), but that is due to office politics and got little to do with the nature of the job.

Don't know about perception but this native is not at all happy or content, trying my level best to change my field. I don't have a very positive view of my job.
Kandhanji - A10 lord mars is exalted and conjunct Rahu. Rahu is 8th lord from AL. It gives sudden interferences and break in work. Now it may not really keep him out of job like me because 10th house in general in Rasi has self placed moon aspected by Jup, which gives him a happy job in general.
Correct. To create a break in Govt. service you would need hell and high water :mrgreen: , but there has been quite a number of sudden transfers which annoyed me a lot. Conditions of service can be taken as happy.
But obstructions cannot be ruled out owing to political motives of people in the organization. And it will not be an open type of politics. But people trying to obstruct his work via back door tactics. What this does is, Rahu absorbs all the qualities of Mars and shows it as his own. So, his competitors/enemies at work are able to display the native's hard and excellent work as their own to the superiors or public. In the house of agreements this is capable of creating frequent conflicts of interest amongst team members.
Yes backdoor politics and attempts at backstabbing has been rife in my work life. Not exactly people steal my thunder per se, but I have to do others work from time to time. Either due to request from superiors or they goof off and I have the final responsibility. And people rarely confront me directly, always behind my back.
The same Rahu is 8th lord indicating something related to research. A9 is in 8th house too. Looks like the boss is different from his caste, is also cryptic in nature, tall, aged and lean. The physical appearance is not untidy as A9 lord Saturn, the boss is aspected by Jupiter. It is the co-lordship of Rahu that gives cryptic nature to the boss. Else saturnine qualities look fine to me.



Bosses change often and they come in all shapes and sizes. But my current immediate boss fits the description.
This to me looks like the situation about the Bhava Arudha A10 and the Graha Arudha L10, as both are in the same house.

Venus and Merc conjunction means involvement of intellectual people giving him a bit of tough time at work, as Mercury is 12th lord.
Not exactly intellectual, but people I clash with are usually very intelligent and powerful people. Makes it worse.
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Venus requires attention to detail in work. With Exalted Mars aspecting it from 7th, it means that Logic and attention to detail have to go hand in hand. It is not some kind of superficial work where one signs a register, carries on tasks mechanically and day is off.

A10 lord Mars is placed with Sun in navamsa so the job is mostly in the govt sector. This is also confirmed by the fact that 10th lord moon of Rasi is also aspected by Sun. Mars can give work like extreme logical analysis requirement, Lands and properties to deal with, With Sun it can also indicate something related to surgeries in the hospitality sector
Not exactly, its mainly routine work. Of course I work for the govt. and work sometimes were connected with land taxes and assesment, sometimes not.

There is another factor. In a private capacity, I am connected to a few strategic think tanks. I do projects on military matters and strategic security and participate in seminars. This work is not paying but has given me a little bit of fame. Logic, detail and intelligence is more applied in this work rather than regular job. The research angle is very much applicable in this matter.
One consistent feature is moons association with place he works. Looks like there is some waterbody around. Something like a river, canal, lake etc, where his office is.
Went through many offices or office buildings. None had any large water bodies nearby, except puddles.

Great job guys, thanks a lot for the effort. By the way do you people foresee a job change in the near future?

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Sonu ji,
the difference between perception and tangible is that perception is a concept that is not reality, so how can it be tangible.
This is where I have a logical (or may be philosophical) difference of opinion. Every so called reality is an image in your (and mine too :D ) mind. That is why I gave the example of 10$ bill. I was talking of the same person in two different locations. Obviously chart is the same. 10$ is tangible. But the image he associates with it differs based on where he is.

If you do ruthless introspection, you will realize what we refer to as tangibles are after all images.

I somehow think that arudhas as perception of others of the native is less confusing and quite adequate and does take care of the "tangible".
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swamycoolji

K.N. Rao is a very very learned astrologer. as you have stated before abourt Arudha Padha calculations, he has some radical views on Arudha exceptions, Chara Karakas and Chara Dasa Calculations too. but i found in couple of charts when using chara dasha that the dates tally more when done as per Parasara instead of K.N. Rao. so i thought i will stick to the classics. but he has done extensive research and pulished those results too. so its a kind of 'whatever works'.
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tnx for the feedback swamykoolji
swamykool wrote:By the way do you people foresee a job change in the near future?
no need for charts. just tell me your Cadre. :D
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swamykoolji

is your job transferable i.e change of place? or are you referring to switching to another job/deputation kind of thing?
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Kandhan ji,

I am learning Jaimini and I follow K N Rao. Whatever little calculations I have done with Chara Dasha, it has given good results. But, as you say, whichever applies. I don't know it much so not yet qualified to comment.

No need of cadre either.:D I'm trying to switch to academics. By Parashari my work life shows multiple activities. What does Jaimini show?

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swamycoolji

just basic one thing about 10th house that you probably know well . moon in Cancer. nature of moon-instability. for ex. take my case: moon in 4th. never stayed in a house for more than 4-5 yrs at a stretch after i got out on my own.
but lets wait for inputs from learned members.
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