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by Dinesh.Srivastava » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:19 am
@ "BOY"
Your copy and paste of thousands of words from google search , preaching morality and ethics , quoting political writers and what not .... means nothing to me .... just sounds of air in a hollow shell

Good day all,
I have been accused of doing a cut and past job . yes That is true . I have cut and paste things from the Net before, and I will do it again of the need arises . But I can proudly say, For every 10 lines I have cut and Past, I have typed a 100 lines on this forum.
the whole astrological community is about cut and paste. We have to work on existent yogas, fundamentals and dictums. I am no Parsahara, Nor am I VarahaMihira That I can come up with some dictum of my own and write a thesis on astrology .. There are treasure troves of Yogas out there, what is wrong in cutting and pasting them on L.O.V.A. ?

I ask anybody on this forum. If you can find one paragraph which I have written on "The Nakshatras" thread, any where else on the internet Then I will stop writting on this forum . The objective of that thread was to get 6 books on the Net . Tomorrow, Some one will pick what I have written on that thread, and then Post it on another web site . And I will be happy when that is done because knowledge is spread . That is what the Internet is about . To spread information .

P.V.N.R. ji, created a software that has been picked up by half a million people to date. Even if he had charged a 1000 Rs ( Parashara light costs 20 k) he would have made a cool 50 crores . Why has he given it for free ? So that Knowledge can be spread . Why are his classes up on the net ? So that other people who do not have direct access to him can gain his knowledge. If some one quotes P.V.N.R. ji , is he not cutting and pasting P.V.N.R. ji's Work . What is wrong if cut and paste something which I think would benefit our community ? I have always quoted the original source of the information and also paid due regards to the author of any book or internet web site I refer to .

Why do we pay a price for a book we purchase ? Firstly its for the author efforts to compile information, then the cost of editing and the marketing . Take for example "Light on life" By "Dr Robert Svoboda". When he quotes Phala Deepika, is he not cutting and pasting the slokha on the book ? What is extra is his commentary . But his commentary will be within the premise of The slokha which is in Phaladeepika . He cannot step out of the boundary and create his own or bend the dictum or modify it in any way . If we cut and paste again and again , its because Astrology is always going to remain sacrosanct to the 26 odd classical texts. When in doubt we will always run back there and we will always quote the same slokas again and again for generations to come .

People who criticise others should always remember that it's easy to sit back and pass negative comments at others . It is one thing to cut and paste . It is another thing to know what to cut and paste . Arm chair critics are like the scum of this earth . They do nothing , don't let other do anything , and if the others succeed in doing something , they criticise and poke fun at them . When challenged to produce some results , they happen to be busy with other things and dont have the time to sit day and night . But otherwise they have all the time in the world to pick holes in other peoples work .
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instead of copy and paste from books and google search .... try to write on your own sometimes ... it dosent hurt ... trust me
I have written 15 articles here . You show me if the entire matter is available any where else on the net . I will stop writting . Easy to sit and comment . what have you done so far, other than criticising people ?
i know this post of mine will be deleted by moderators as well like the last one ... cause i am the fav ...and you have connections in this forum
but honestly ... i dont give a damnn
You have lost your mind and have become paranoid. Connections ? seriously ?? you must be joking . And you do give a damn . If not you would not have come back here after leaving in a huff the last time .
about backing off : I cant sit here all day long like u ... i have work to do in real world as well .... so i wont be doing this verbal rally any more ...i have better things to do ... besides i dont care
You do care dinesh . If not you would not have written this . Well if you have work to do, how did you find the time to write all these lengthy posts ? You dont have the time only when somebody asks you a question . The rest of the time you have plenty of time on your hands to play the fool and have fun on this forum.
BTW : my astrological question is still unanswered
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I thought you were to write about it . I never said I had the answer . We are waiting for you to tell us the answer . I am a mere student . If you know the answer please share it with this forum . Come up with some original ideas for once . Since you dont have the time , even cut and paste is fine .
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by Dinesh.Srivastava » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:02 pm
i nvr said about u having relationship with her .... u r implicitly assuming it that i said so ..... i explicitly said that the astrologers were duped in assuming that it was her first marriage ..which was not , cause the 10 year relationship is in itself a marriage ... you have provided that info urself .... if u have so much problem with the amalysis then why didnt u speak up ???? ...wjy cry over split milk now ????
abt t rajaths : it was a gone case already no one cud have helped
besides i do not take into upon myself to assume that i am so high and mighty as to help everyone
Dinesh, your posts have been deleted by you on the matter concerning that analysis , for reasons known only to you . So I will let the matter rest . The reason I did not speak up was because, It did not make a difference to me what you had to say on that case . You actually got into a fight with Anuradha Ji there . I did not want to add fuel to the fire .

If you know Rajaths case is a gone case , why bring it up ?? Is that all you could get to attack me ?

If you are not so high and mighty to help some one , please step aside and let the meek and the humble do the job . People come here for answers . If you can give them one . then do it . If not step aside and let the rest handle the show .

Now let us get back to the original question of this thread . If you can stop taking volleys at me , perhaps you can find the time to give this forum a answer ?


by Dinesh.Srivastava » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:21 pm
FINALLY ..... Something , I Will have a great time Writing About ...


This was written last night . You found the time to take pot shots at me all morning . You should have replied to the original question which Sonu ji asked and then replied to my post . At least now , please give us your answer . I will be highly obliged .

Thank you
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Since I am good at cutting and pasting, and since I know what to cut and paste , Let me do the job first . Dinesh can then produce some original research and write his own stuff .

Vedic Astrology: An Integrated Approach : Page 96 chapter 9.6

Use of Graha Arudhas
Just as arudha padas of various houses show the illusions of the world related to the matters signified by various houses, arudha padas of various planets show the illusions of the native related to the matters signified by various planets. Houses show various aspects of the person’s life and their arudhas show how they are
perceived in the world. Planets show various persons, forces and situations that impact various aspects of a person’s life and their arudhas show the related perceptions by the person. Just as the perceptions of the world about a native can be totally different from the reality, perceptions of a native about himself, about the world and about the situations that (s)he goes through can be totally different from the reality. Graha
arudhas throw light on these perceptions.
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Hello Dinesh Sir,

We know that ur time is very precious as u r a very brilliant software eng and I.T industry needs u more than us,but u r also a brilliant astrologer as u have learnt directly from Pt. Sanjay Rath ji and Rao Sir.If u have time then plz discuss this topic on Sunday so that we all can learn and enjoy that.


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All the principles of Vedic astrology should be understood and applied in the context of “desa” (country – place), “kaala” (time – age) and “paatra” (nature and class of the persons involved). When we interpret arudha padas, we are talking about the things based on which the world forms an impression about an aspect of the native. The things that drive the world’s perceptions can be different based on which world we are living in. They vary significantly from one place to another, from one age to another and from one class to another. Intelligent use of arudhas requires an astrologer to understand the world that the native lives in.
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Arudha pada of a house shows the maya surrounding the matters signified by that house. It shows the factors based on which the impressions of people are formed. Arudha lagna or AL shows people’s impressions about a native. It shows one’s status in the material world. Darapada or A7 shows one’s relationships. Upapada (UL)
shows one’s marriage and spouse. A4 in D-16 shows one’s vehicle. A4 in D-24 shows one’s school or college or university (place of education). A10 in D-10 shows one’s workplace. Arudha padas of planets show the perceptions of the native about the world, about himself or herself and about the situations developing in his or her life.

Analysis of the positions of planets with respect to lagna shows reality. Analysis of the positions of planets with respect to AL shows perceptions of the world and material situation. Analysis of individual bhava arudhas throws light on various things based on which world forms impressions about a native. Analysis of the
positions of the arudha padas of planets with respect to lagna shows the perceptions of the native.
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Sonuji
i have tried this with your chart. hope you dont mind.

10 Bhava: Vrichika Rashi, Bhava lord exalted in 12th, Rahu in 10th: that is the reality

i think AP and GA has to be seen from AL of the relevant divisional chart

A10 is in 10th from AL : that is the world's perception of your profession. meaning positive

in both Rashi and D10 Mesha is the stronger of two rashis. so in D-10 GA is Vrishabha. which is 8th from AL being aspected by debilitated L3 and L6: that is your perception of your work. meaning negative.
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Dear All:

When 2 people are having an argument, I feel they can settle it between themselves. They both are good astrologers and they dont need anyone else's support. Dont join sides and make it look like a gang fight. Let them resolve it between themselves.

Other members pls delete any post supporting any one individual & totally irrelevant to the topic. in almost
every thing under the sun people need not concur. Theres no need for any personal attack at all. Pls keep the argument to the point in perspective.

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Dear Ramanan and Astroboy,

Do you agree with Kandhanji's analysis ? As I have mentioned, I am trying to learn here, so i am not using my rusty brain here :mrgreen: .

Kandhanji - What data u have used ? I get A10 in 2nd house which is 6th from AL(9th house) and L10 in 8th house which is 12th from AL. Also what siddhanta and ayanamsa u r using ?

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Dear all,
this is an interesting topic opened by Sonu, one that I and many will benefit from. I would encourage people to contribute on ths subject...and let it not digress and make follwoing 2 points:

1) Dear Astroboy,
Your passion towards astrology and contribtuions in the forum are unparalled. I and all may not agree all the time with your astrological views but no one can doubt the contributions in terms of material and time you give, that many benefit from.
My suggestion would be not to get insinuated so easily...since no one named you.
And doing the C&P work or anything that you see valuable doesn't need to be defended if you are covinced that that is benefecial to others.

2) Dear Dinesh:
You believe you have better interpretational skills and greater depth of knowledge?....you are probably right.
You believe that interpretational skills in astrology are a higher level of skill then doing C&P......you are probably right there too.
And you want to be recognized and saluted for the greater skills by the forum?...Nothing wrong with that!
But wouldn't you rather let others state that on their own...then to get into a conflict and force the situation?
Respect is commanded and not demanded !!
Trust the reader's intelligence...they can diffrentiate between C&P skills and indepth interpretational skills. There are very very knowledgable people on this forum.
The amount of recognition availbale on this forum or for that matter in this world is not finite..
Talent, wisdom, knowledge, geniuses cannot be curbed...it just shines....amidst all adversity.....against all attacks.
If he sees value in doing what you think are C&P works and doesn't claim to be a parashar either...let him do what he wants to....you contribute your skills and let the readers / world judge.
Readers and world judges us all pretty fairly in the end...becuae 99% people don't carry any agenda against each other.

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Sonuji

i think you are referring to D1. i have used D-10 since 10 bhav is under consideration. thats the impression i got from PVR. correct me if wrong.

keeping AP aside, what about your perception of your profession. thats pratyaksha to you. :D
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Sonuji
so what you are saying is that everyone except you is satisfied with your work. for you its frustration and breaks. is that correct?
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Dear Sonu

Your analysis is thorough but you have missed one thing. You have written that from AL A10 is the 6th which is good for service matters. Outwardly it looks ok. Here look at the badhakesh for AL that is sun placed in A10 combusting Jupiter. Here though the 11th lord in 6th looks terrific it is actually the badhakesh corrupting A10.

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Dear Sonu

I feel that the arudhas by themselves should not be analysed. The arudhas being the perception may give a clue to a problem but it is the normal Rasi and navamsa in this case the dasamsa which spots the actual result.

We can start with the arudha to know the potential implication of a perceived problem or yoga but the real fructification of the same indication can be confirmed only by the actual houses and lords in the rasi as well as the respective divisional charts.

Moreover the karakas (Natural) involved in the dasamsa. Here Saturn looks good. but out of the other 3 karakas Sun and Jupiter are in 12th in D10 and Mercury is in the 6th. Mercury here can gain strength by being placed with the yoga karaka for D-10 lagna. And also being the 8th lord in 6th can give a rajayoga.

So A10 merely indicates a problem at the perception level. But the confirmation of the same comes from actual position of planets in Rasi and D-10.

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hi sita
u so funny.i think u belong to munna bhai clan :)
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ranbir wrote:CERTIFICATE....jis-jis ko chahiye..le lo ....free hai


hi sita
u so funny.i think u belong to munna bhai clan :)
Oh thank u ranbir...ki haal tussi?...What abt Tarot study?....and dont reply here..this is Mr.India's thread...he is always invisible :) ...but I love him alot :P
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http://www.lightonvedicastrology.com/da ... 053011.htm
u have learnt directly from Pt. Sanjay Rath ji and Rao Sir
Not possible.one takes eight karka along with Rahu can be the karka. Sh K.N Raoji has done the most original work , takes only seven karka and Rahu cannot become any karka. anu
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