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Sudarshang
Nobody is blemishless Dev-ji. The Lord was not happy even with the Aradhana that Brahma did, that he decided to take an avatar simply to do aradhana to his Archa murti himself - that Lord is none other than Sri Ranganatha of Srirangam - He himself took the avatar of Rama to perform aradhana to himself! That is why one should be first be willing to accept one's blemishes and then have knowledge to perform aparadha kshaamanam and prayaschittam. Not everyone that has undergone pancha-samskaram is perfect. Some even undergo it when they are 7 years old! This, the Lord knows very well. Which is why our poorvacharyas have described ways we can perform prayaschitta to nullify the karma acquired through such blemishes.
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Basab
Sudarshanji,
The path you have talked about is the path of bhakti. It is the most recommended in this Kali yuga, but then, one should not say that the other paths are ineffective. Different people have different mindsets, and so, the different paths are there to choose from, as per their mindsets. A person of an emotional bent of mind, will choose the path of bhakti, which you have mentioned: that is forgetting everything due to love for God. That is a good path for the emotional person, but for an intellectual person, this path will not be suitable. Because he is not emotional, he will prefer the path of jnana, which is to discriminate between the reality and the unreality, between illusion (maya) and truth. Again there's again the kind of people, who is neither emotional, nor the intellectual type. He likes to work only, and for him, the path of karma is the best: work all the time, but surrender the fruits of your labour to God. And then, there is another kind of person, who is more interested in the mystic, and for him, the path of dhyana is the best, which helps him attain realization through meditation. So, I feel, it is wrong to say that one path is better than the other.
The path you have talked about is the path of bhakti. It is the most recommended in this Kali yuga, but then, one should not say that the other paths are ineffective. Different people have different mindsets, and so, the different paths are there to choose from, as per their mindsets. A person of an emotional bent of mind, will choose the path of bhakti, which you have mentioned: that is forgetting everything due to love for God. That is a good path for the emotional person, but for an intellectual person, this path will not be suitable. Because he is not emotional, he will prefer the path of jnana, which is to discriminate between the reality and the unreality, between illusion (maya) and truth. Again there's again the kind of people, who is neither emotional, nor the intellectual type. He likes to work only, and for him, the path of karma is the best: work all the time, but surrender the fruits of your labour to God. And then, there is another kind of person, who is more interested in the mystic, and for him, the path of dhyana is the best, which helps him attain realization through meditation. So, I feel, it is wrong to say that one path is better than the other.
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Sudarshang
Dear Basab-ji
Please advice me as to where I have said "other paths are ineffective". If I have, I am sorry, I would like to withdraw it.
In addition, my path is not pure Bhakti - it is Bhakti driven by Knowledge. I believe in the following value chain:
Do your Karma. That will drive Knowledge. From Knowledge Bhakti will emerge. That type of Bhakti would be most long lasting as opposed to the "emotional Bhakti".
That said, I did make a statement about 12 different methods for attaining moksha as stated in the shastras. there are more stated in Bhagvad Gita One such example is "Avatara Rahasya Jnana". Simply lighting a lamp at dawn and dusk is also said to be one of the methods for achieving Moksha. I have not dwelled deep into any of those. All of those are equally effective to my knowledge. However, according to variety of sources, the 12th method of "prapatti" or "Nyasa" is supposed to be the "easiest" - that is the word I have used - Easiest. That too I have said, "It is said to be the easiest ...." because all the literature I have read say so ....
The reason is simple - it is meant to be for lazy fellows like me! As Shri Abhijit Muhurtha commented, "it sounds easier than getting US Visa"! True it is ...
Please advice me as to where I have said "other paths are ineffective". If I have, I am sorry, I would like to withdraw it.
In addition, my path is not pure Bhakti - it is Bhakti driven by Knowledge. I believe in the following value chain:
Do your Karma. That will drive Knowledge. From Knowledge Bhakti will emerge. That type of Bhakti would be most long lasting as opposed to the "emotional Bhakti".
That said, I did make a statement about 12 different methods for attaining moksha as stated in the shastras. there are more stated in Bhagvad Gita One such example is "Avatara Rahasya Jnana". Simply lighting a lamp at dawn and dusk is also said to be one of the methods for achieving Moksha. I have not dwelled deep into any of those. All of those are equally effective to my knowledge. However, according to variety of sources, the 12th method of "prapatti" or "Nyasa" is supposed to be the "easiest" - that is the word I have used - Easiest. That too I have said, "It is said to be the easiest ...." because all the literature I have read say so ....
The reason is simple - it is meant to be for lazy fellows like me! As Shri Abhijit Muhurtha commented, "it sounds easier than getting US Visa"! True it is ...
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Basab
Dev,
You are absolutely correct in your observation. This is very true in today's world. There are many hypocrites, who doesn't convert their words into action. They will talk big, but act like very low-graded people. This is common in today's world because we are after all living in the Kali Yuga. I think, being morally upright is more important than doing pooja of God. It is more important to be a good human being first than be a devotee of God. I have come across people, who are atheists, but are very pure hearted, and I have come across people, who prays to God everyday, but doesn't hesitate one bit to hurt other people.
I have this online friend, who is very spiritual. We sometimes end up discussing spirituality, and one day I was telling him that I don't pray to God and am not spiritual, though I love reading spiritual books, and he said in reply something, which was really nice. He said, if you are a pure hearted person, God will be happy with you, even if you don't pray to Him. Sometimes, in our ordinary conversations, he ends up saying something so special that I really feel lucky, to know him and get to talk to him.
You are absolutely correct in your observation. This is very true in today's world. There are many hypocrites, who doesn't convert their words into action. They will talk big, but act like very low-graded people. This is common in today's world because we are after all living in the Kali Yuga. I think, being morally upright is more important than doing pooja of God. It is more important to be a good human being first than be a devotee of God. I have come across people, who are atheists, but are very pure hearted, and I have come across people, who prays to God everyday, but doesn't hesitate one bit to hurt other people.
I have this online friend, who is very spiritual. We sometimes end up discussing spirituality, and one day I was telling him that I don't pray to God and am not spiritual, though I love reading spiritual books, and he said in reply something, which was really nice. He said, if you are a pure hearted person, God will be happy with you, even if you don't pray to Him. Sometimes, in our ordinary conversations, he ends up saying something so special that I really feel lucky, to know him and get to talk to him.
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Basab
Sudarshang ji,
You have written: "Instead of being careful about money and lust, it is better to focus all attention on the supreme Lord and his great qualities like grace, kindness, valour." Don't you think that by saying this you are undermining the path of jnana and dhyana, in both of which one has to be careful to avoid money and lust, and showing that the path of Bhakti is better? I felt that way. If that is not what you meant, then I am sorry.
You have written: "Instead of being careful about money and lust, it is better to focus all attention on the supreme Lord and his great qualities like grace, kindness, valour." Don't you think that by saying this you are undermining the path of jnana and dhyana, in both of which one has to be careful to avoid money and lust, and showing that the path of Bhakti is better? I felt that way. If that is not what you meant, then I am sorry.
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Basab
Sudarshang ji,
Thank you for sharing information on the various paths to moksha. I was not aware that there was more than 4 paths. It was nice to know about them.
Thank you for sharing information on the various paths to moksha. I was not aware that there was more than 4 paths. It was nice to know about them.
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Sudarshang
Basab-ji
My statement, in my opnion, yes is very strongly stated in favor of Bhakti. But I did not mean other paths are ineffective. in fact, you are right. there are so many paths, people can follow what suits them. I was only sharing my experience, and thoughts. At the end of the day, its a free world, and people anyway to do what they want to only.
My statement, in my opnion, yes is very strongly stated in favor of Bhakti. But I did not mean other paths are ineffective. in fact, you are right. there are so many paths, people can follow what suits them. I was only sharing my experience, and thoughts. At the end of the day, its a free world, and people anyway to do what they want to only.
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Basab
Sudharshang ji,
Yes, people do what they want to, irrespective of what they are told. That is very true indeed. And you have shared your own experience and beliefs, so it is okay, that way.
Yes, people do what they want to, irrespective of what they are told. That is very true indeed. And you have shared your own experience and beliefs, so it is okay, that way.
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Sudarshang
Basab ji
There is one more aspect that needs to be clarified about other paths - whatever the path, the final criteria for moksha is to have Zero Karma Balance - no positive karma, no negative karma. However, life after life, we only keep fattening our Sanchita karma (total balance) and dont seem to reduce it! While karma marga is straight forward - assuming you know the knack of reducing the sanchita karma as opposed to increasing - one can easily say that you are on the path of Karma yoga. Do you know how Jnana or Bhakti marga works to reduce the Sanchita karma?
There is one more aspect that needs to be clarified about other paths - whatever the path, the final criteria for moksha is to have Zero Karma Balance - no positive karma, no negative karma. However, life after life, we only keep fattening our Sanchita karma (total balance) and dont seem to reduce it! While karma marga is straight forward - assuming you know the knack of reducing the sanchita karma as opposed to increasing - one can easily say that you are on the path of Karma yoga. Do you know how Jnana or Bhakti marga works to reduce the Sanchita karma?
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Basab
Sudarshang ji,
Honestly speaking, I feel, everything happens as per the will of God. I don't believe in free will, at all. But if for a moment I keep my belief aside and believe free will exists, what I have read and understood is that when you are on the path of Bhakti, God burns your previous karmas as a reward for your surrendering to Him completely, and you don't create new karmas as you are doing nothing, but devotional service of God in the present. About the path of jnana, it is the path of discrimination, that is, keeping yourself away from the maya of the world and searching for the truth. When you are doing that, you are staying safe from new karmas, but the old karmas you have to suffer, and when they are exhausted, you are free of karmic debt.
Honestly speaking, I feel, everything happens as per the will of God. I don't believe in free will, at all. But if for a moment I keep my belief aside and believe free will exists, what I have read and understood is that when you are on the path of Bhakti, God burns your previous karmas as a reward for your surrendering to Him completely, and you don't create new karmas as you are doing nothing, but devotional service of God in the present. About the path of jnana, it is the path of discrimination, that is, keeping yourself away from the maya of the world and searching for the truth. When you are doing that, you are staying safe from new karmas, but the old karmas you have to suffer, and when they are exhausted, you are free of karmic debt.
Basab,
Yes, u are absolutely right.
But u said several people are hypocrites and need to be morally right first and it does not matter even if they are atheists.
I would say even if they are not morally right, they should not pretend to be incarnate of Lord Rama and so on, pretending to be too honest. I have seen such people in my neighbourhood, workplace and relatives too. I dont mind if a person is morally bad and says that he is bad. He is atleast better than the one pretending to be perfect and doing dirty things.
Being morally right is good but I doubt if we can find even a handful of such people since this is kaliyuga and external influence has a strong role to play in bringing dishormony.
Dev
Yes, u are absolutely right.
But u said several people are hypocrites and need to be morally right first and it does not matter even if they are atheists.
I would say even if they are not morally right, they should not pretend to be incarnate of Lord Rama and so on, pretending to be too honest. I have seen such people in my neighbourhood, workplace and relatives too. I dont mind if a person is morally bad and says that he is bad. He is atleast better than the one pretending to be perfect and doing dirty things.
Being morally right is good but I doubt if we can find even a handful of such people since this is kaliyuga and external influence has a strong role to play in bringing dishormony.
Dev
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Hi Bassu,Basab wrote:Hi Sita,
Would you be kind enough to explain what this 'New Age Spirituality' is all about.
According to me:-
Whatever makes you feel peaceful, joyful and content is spirituality
I m not angry with u....I could not reply to ur pms as I was busy....btw u have my no u could have talked to me dierctly...bye c u later
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Sudarshang
Basab-ji:Basab wrote:Sudarshang ji,
Honestly speaking, I feel, everything happens as per the will of God. I don't believe in free will, at all. But if for a moment I keep my belief aside and believe free will exists, what I have read and understood is that when you are on the path of Bhakti, God burns your previous karmas as a reward for your surrendering to Him completely, and you don't create new karmas as you are doing nothing, but devotional service of God in the present. About the path of jnana, it is the path of discrimination, that is, keeping yourself away from the maya of the world and searching for the truth. When you are doing that, you are staying safe from new karmas, but the old karmas you have to suffer, and when they are exhausted, you are free of karmic debt.
some questions and observations:
1. Do you agree that each Jeevatma is carrying the burden of its past karma - life after life?
2. If everything happens as per the will of God, and there is no free-will, the resulting Karma from the action should to attributed to HIM and not the Jeevatma. Then why is the Karma being assigned to each Jeevatma? Afterall the Jeevatma is only the messenger carrying out the God's will isn't it?
3. You are right about Bhakti Yoga and Jnana Yoga as to how Karma is slowly exhausted - however it might be better to remember that the karma we are trying to exhaust has accrued from millions of past lives! One could well imagine how long it would take through either paths to exhaust all of that sanchita karma!
Another observation that might help: you said, " God burns your previous karmas as a reward for your surrendering to Him completely" - this is very true. Then, isn't "surrendering to Him completely" - the easier way to exhaust the Karma? I have heard that at the time of surrendering he simply annihilates the entire "sanchita karma" accumulated from those millions of past lives.
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Basab
Sudarshang ji,
The person who is in the first stage will take the path of karma: that is doing rituals and sacrifices and surrendering the fruits of labour to God. This will bring in him a love for God, and he will turn to the path of Bhakti, and after surrendering to God, he will become more evolved and realize the truth that there is no personal God, and so, he will take to the path of Jnana, of discriminating between maya and reality, and then, he will grow more evolved and detach himself from everything and turn to the raja yoga path, which is about meditating on Brahman, and get God-realization. These stages he will go through in quite a long span of maybe a hundred lifetimes or even more. So when he has reached the stage of Jnana, he will not in anyway have much karma to burn because he has burned that in the Bhakti stage, and then, one can reach that high level of understanding that Jnana talks about, that God is not personal, but impersonal, only when most of the karma has been burned out, otherwise not.
Yes, I agree that every jeevatma is carrying the burden of its previous lives on itself, life after life.Sudarshang wrote:Do you agree that each Jeevatma is carrying the burden of its past karma - life after life?
What you are saying is the belief of a dvaita, that a soul is separate from God, but I am a believer of advaita, and the philosophy of a that is, each and every soul is God; he is just yet to realize it as he is blinded by maya.Sudarshang wrote:If everything happens as per the will of God, and there is no free-will, the resulting Karma from the action should to attributed to HIM and not the Jeevatma. Then why is the Karma being assigned to each Jeevatma? Afterall the Jeevatma is only the messenger carrying out the God's will isn't it?
Yes, I can understand that. Such is God’s will.Sudarshang wrote:You are right about Bhakti Yoga and Jnana Yoga as to how Karma is slowly exhausted - however it might be better to remember that the karma we are trying to exhaust has accrued from millions of past lives! One could well imagine how long it would take through either paths to exhaust all of that sanchita karma!
Yes, it is definitely the easier way to exhaust karma, but then, where will it take us? Do you think that will directly give us salvation? No, that won’t happen. The path of Bhakti cannot give you salvation because the philosophy it preaches of praying to God, surrendering to God is not the Truth: it’s because there is no personal God. As because ordinary people find it difficult to accept it, that there is no personal God, the path of Bhakti has been created, so that it helps a person take the path of spirituality, with ease. It definitely has its advantages, no doubt. The point is, everyone has to go through all the four paths, to attain Moksha. It’s not just Bhakti, or not just Karma. We all are in different stages of evolution, and that’s why we choose different paths. A person who is in the initial stage, will prefer the path of Bhakti, while a person who is in an advanced stage, will prefer the path of Jnana, but the latter has undergone the path of Bhakti in one of his previous lives, and the former will take the path of Jnana in one of his future lives.Sudarshang wrote:Another observation that might help: you said, " God burns your previous karmas as a reward for your surrendering to Him completely" - this is very true. Then, isn't "surrendering to Him completely" - the easier way to exhaust the Karma?
The person who is in the first stage will take the path of karma: that is doing rituals and sacrifices and surrendering the fruits of labour to God. This will bring in him a love for God, and he will turn to the path of Bhakti, and after surrendering to God, he will become more evolved and realize the truth that there is no personal God, and so, he will take to the path of Jnana, of discriminating between maya and reality, and then, he will grow more evolved and detach himself from everything and turn to the raja yoga path, which is about meditating on Brahman, and get God-realization. These stages he will go through in quite a long span of maybe a hundred lifetimes or even more. So when he has reached the stage of Jnana, he will not in anyway have much karma to burn because he has burned that in the Bhakti stage, and then, one can reach that high level of understanding that Jnana talks about, that God is not personal, but impersonal, only when most of the karma has been burned out, otherwise not.
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Basab
(Cont. of previous post)
The Vedas also have been divided into two portions. The first portion talks about rituals and personal God, but in the second portion it neither talks about rituals, nor about personal God, but about impersonal God that is Brahman. So it shows that it is a stage-by-stage process. Can a person following the path of Bhakti follow that path if he believes that God is inside him? No, he can't: he has to believe in a personal God to follow the path of Bhakti. So it is the initial stage in the path of spirituality, and the more he evolves, the more he will turn to Jnana, and at that time the karmic burden will also be much less as the path of Bhakti, which he had followed in some previous life time will have sweeped off most of the past karmas by then. That is why it is said there are different path for different people as per the stage of evolution they are in, but no one can take a short-cut in the spiritual journey: everyone has to walk on all the four paths one-by-one, each path leading to the other, finally leading him to salvation.
One more thing: like Bhakti yoga, Raja yoga is also very effective because there is a method there called Kriya yoga, which helps one to attain salvation super-fast. I read about it in the book, 'Autobiography of a Yogi'.
The Vedas also have been divided into two portions. The first portion talks about rituals and personal God, but in the second portion it neither talks about rituals, nor about personal God, but about impersonal God that is Brahman. So it shows that it is a stage-by-stage process. Can a person following the path of Bhakti follow that path if he believes that God is inside him? No, he can't: he has to believe in a personal God to follow the path of Bhakti. So it is the initial stage in the path of spirituality, and the more he evolves, the more he will turn to Jnana, and at that time the karmic burden will also be much less as the path of Bhakti, which he had followed in some previous life time will have sweeped off most of the past karmas by then. That is why it is said there are different path for different people as per the stage of evolution they are in, but no one can take a short-cut in the spiritual journey: everyone has to walk on all the four paths one-by-one, each path leading to the other, finally leading him to salvation.
One more thing: like Bhakti yoga, Raja yoga is also very effective because there is a method there called Kriya yoga, which helps one to attain salvation super-fast. I read about it in the book, 'Autobiography of a Yogi'.
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Basab
Sita,
I will get peace only when all my material desires are fulfilled--will you still call this spirituality? I think it is being materialistic to the core.
I am very glad to know that you are not angry with me Sita. I almost had a nervous breakdown seeing no reply to my pm's.
No, I don't have your number. You had sent it to me by pm, but I accidentally deleted that pm sometime back, and I don't have your number saved in my cellphone. Otherwise, I would have definitely called you, to talk to you.
I will get peace only when all my material desires are fulfilled--will you still call this spirituality? I think it is being materialistic to the core.
I am very glad to know that you are not angry with me Sita. I almost had a nervous breakdown seeing no reply to my pm's.
No, I don't have your number. You had sent it to me by pm, but I accidentally deleted that pm sometime back, and I don't have your number saved in my cellphone. Otherwise, I would have definitely called you, to talk to you. sita wrote:Hi Bassu,Basab wrote:Hi Sita,
Would you be kind enough to explain what this 'New Age Spirituality' is all about.
According to me:-
Whatever makes you feel peaceful, joyful and content is spirituality
I m not angry with u....I could not reply to ur pms as I was busy....btw u have my no u could have talked to me dierctly...bye c u later
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krishnagopal1968
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Basab ji,
your post on various paths is excellent. Is there Anupam ji behind you?
thanks for this fine insight.
your post on various paths is excellent. Is there Anupam ji behind you?
thanks for this fine insight.
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Basab
Krishnaji,
I am glad you liked my post--thank you so much. Anupamji has always been there with me, helping me in my spiritual understanding.
I am glad you liked my post--thank you so much. Anupamji has always been there with me, helping me in my spiritual understanding.
krishnagopal1968 wrote:Basab ji,
your post on various paths is excellent. Is there Anupam ji behind you?
thanks for this fine insight.
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Basab
Anupamji,
Thank you so much for appreciating my post. It means a lot to me. About myself, I don't know whether I am going deep, I just shared what I have read in spiritual books. I guess, I am understanding spirituality now to some extent.
Yes, it's not just about one path. Swami Vivekananda, I think, mentions in one of his lectures that it's not about dvaita being wrong and advaita being right--they both are truth in different stages--the former being a stepping stone to the latter.
While I was reading the 'Bhagavad Gita', I understood that Karma yoga was nothing but a stepping stone towards Bhakti yoga because in the former one is surrendering his fruits to God out of love.
Yeah, truth is definitely a pathless land because once you reach the destination, the paths you have walked on to reach it becomes meaningless for you.
Thank you so much for appreciating my post. It means a lot to me. About myself, I don't know whether I am going deep, I just shared what I have read in spiritual books. I guess, I am understanding spirituality now to some extent.
Yes, it's not just about one path. Swami Vivekananda, I think, mentions in one of his lectures that it's not about dvaita being wrong and advaita being right--they both are truth in different stages--the former being a stepping stone to the latter.
While I was reading the 'Bhagavad Gita', I understood that Karma yoga was nothing but a stepping stone towards Bhakti yoga because in the former one is surrendering his fruits to God out of love.
Yeah, truth is definitely a pathless land because once you reach the destination, the paths you have walked on to reach it becomes meaningless for you.
anupam1968 wrote:Dear Basab,The point is, everyone has to go through all the four paths, to attain Moksha. It’s not just Bhakti, or not just Karma
You have started going deep
Krishna Ji,
I am neither ahead nor behind
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Basab wrote:Sita,
I will get peace only when all my material desires are fulfilled--will you still call this spirituality? I think it is being materialistic to the core.
I am very glad to know that you are not angry with me Sita. I almost had a nervous breakdown seeing no reply to my pm's.
hahahaha
.....my funny bro 
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Basab
sita wrote:Basab wrote:Sita,
I will get peace only when all my material desires are fulfilled--will you still call this spirituality? I think it is being materialistic to the core.
I am very glad to know that you are not angry with me Sita. I almost had a nervous breakdown seeing no reply to my pm's.
hahahaha
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Basab
Aseem,
Fulfillment of desires will not make the desires come to an end, but it will make one realize that desires never end. It is difficult to believe what you learn, unless you experience it, too, and to experience the meaninglesness of material life, one has to enjoy the materialistic life for sometime. That is why fulfillment of desires is important.
Fulfillment of desires will not make the desires come to an end, but it will make one realize that desires never end. It is difficult to believe what you learn, unless you experience it, too, and to experience the meaninglesness of material life, one has to enjoy the materialistic life for sometime. That is why fulfillment of desires is important.
aseem82 wrote:Dear Basabji,
Are you sure that after you fulfill your desires, they will come to an end?
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Sudarshang
Basab-jiBasab wrote:Sudarshang ji,
What you are saying is the belief of a dvaita, that a soul is separate from God, but I am a believer of advaita, and the philosophy of a that is, each and every soul is God; he is just yet to realize it as he is blinded by maya.Sudarshang wrote:If everything happens as per the will of God, and there is no free-will, the resulting Karma from the action should to attributed to HIM and not the Jeevatma. Then why is the Karma being assigned to each Jeevatma? Afterall the Jeevatma is only the messenger carrying out the God's will isn't it?
I am not a dualist. I still agree that the Brahman is "Ekameva Advitiyam!" However, according to the school I follow, the Brahmam is a "chetanaachetana visishta brahmam" and it is "saguna brahmam." However, I appreciate you being a monist - and leave it there since I disagree with number of core teachings of Adi Shankara, Bhaskara, Yadava Prakasa, and Bhatta (the 4 main advaitic schools).
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Basab
Sudarshang ji,
I have not gone deep into spirituality, like you. I have read a few spiritual books only and have read about dualism and monism and qualified monism there, and it is the philosophy of monism, which has appealed to me, but that doesn't mean that I don't talk to God. I definitely do. I am an ordinary man and happy with my simple beliefs of destiny and God. I read spiritual books and am discussing on it here, too, but that's where it ends. I am not trying to understand life from that perspective. Spirituality to me, right now, is nothing more than a theory. But it is true that it has helped me accept life better.
I have not gone deep into spirituality, like you. I have read a few spiritual books only and have read about dualism and monism and qualified monism there, and it is the philosophy of monism, which has appealed to me, but that doesn't mean that I don't talk to God. I definitely do. I am an ordinary man and happy with my simple beliefs of destiny and God. I read spiritual books and am discussing on it here, too, but that's where it ends. I am not trying to understand life from that perspective. Spirituality to me, right now, is nothing more than a theory. But it is true that it has helped me accept life better.
