Talib Ji , I dont want to put my legs into political Craap , But there must be a compelling reason why a man of his stature was shot dead . . Let me tell you , I do not deny that he was a great man . His one statement is enough to convince me that he was indeed great . the statement was " you can measure the progress of a society and a country by the way it treats its animals . "
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
I read your post about the Ashlesha and the other Nakshatras. I don't necessarily agree with all being said about the nakshatras in general. For example: Given that I'm born in the Ashlesha nakshatra.....not trying here to defend my character...but I don't think i fit into the norms of the aslesha nakshatras as described in the post. Infact, i find myself on the opposite end. Not sure, if there are any exceptions or other facts to be factored into, but I'm not sure how so many attributes related to some nakshatras can all fit into a person's character. There has to be some thing more to this. Apart from this, I've known people who are born in this nakshatras, and I don't think they are either deceitful or think of their own benefits first. I haven't paid too close observations to other nakshatras posts and tried to relate those to people I've known, but I'm sure that there will be some huge differences.
Pocean
Dear Pocean,
"All other factors being equal."
see in forest mummy duck is going to water pond for swimming means - daddy duck and baby ducks is going in the backside of mummy duck and jumping in water. Not looking this side not looking that side. Simply jumping.
Pocean . I have very clearely stated on the onset of this thread that I am talking only about a afflicted Nakshatra . In your case , you need not worry too much of the negative traits of nakshatra because 1. Guru is exalted in Pushya 2. Chandra is not aspected by any Malefic 3. Guru is conjunct with Chandra 4. Budha is aspected by Guru .
Ladies and gentlemen , Please See the saving grace in a horoscope before deciding if the negative traits have to be applied or not . Do not panic and tell me that , the traits I have mentioned are wrong . Just because the traits I have mentioned do not apply to your life does not mean that these traits do not exist in the others . If there were only good traits for every nakhshatra , there would be no violence , crime, murder, deceit , agony, and strife in this world at all . Remember that .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Kunal , beautifully said . See the positive aspects in her horoscope . Exalted Guru is conjunct with the Moon for god sakes . What more can you ask for ??? .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Nothing Political The best way i can define his assassination is " A Mahatma got awarded by a patriot". hope u understand my feelings for both of them. As far as my personnel views for Mahtma Gandhi is concerned he was indeed a "mahan atma", not just one statement but his whole life is a proof of it. A Mahtma can not be understand by many. We have to wider our scope to understand them.
Bhai, wt abt the details i want to send to you. Believe me it wld be best for research.
One point I want to make clear. We all think that we smell of roses 24 hours a day , and Our mouth smells fresh with cinnamon and cardamom flavors , and we are so good that when we die , God will take us up to heaven , body and soul . But sadly this is not how people perceive us. You have to understand that the perception we have of our selves is vastly different from what the others think of you. For example, I think that I am a man who is always unselfish, and that I extend a helping hand to anyone who wants it. But my father thinks that I am a first rate rascal who always follows the " I me and my self " policy. It is difficult to judge ourselves because the ego gets in the way.
Having said that, it is also very difficult to analyze and form an opinion of other people. This is why you will find in lots of true cases, that the guy next door, who has always been a quiet, decent neighbor, is actually a rapist serial killer. Ted Bundy was a classic example. You really cannot make out what a person is below the surface.
Take Hitler. He actually convinced himself that what he was doing was the absolute right thing to do, and he regarded everyone who did not support his plans as traitors.
So every time we think that we are good humans , Take it with a pinch of salt .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Pushya means something that can nourish. The position of this nakshatra in the nakshatra mandala after Punarvasu suggests something which can sustain the creation that happened in the previous nakshatra. While Punarvasu is known for the creative potencies, this nakshatra is known for sustenance and growth. This is ruled by Brihaspati, the preceptor of the adityas (the virtuous and spiritual ones) and is also known as Jiva or the life force (or pranic energies). The sum-total of all the energies for this nakshatra is to live a fulfilling life.
Unlike creation, which requires creation of new things, sustenance requires establishment of what is created. Sustenance also implies establishing standards and processes and requires that the beings of the creation follow them, without which the nature will be chaotic and lack sustainability. The potencies to follow established laws and governance make the natives of the nakshatra obedient to the law of the land.
Like Brihaspati, these natives are also driven by a sense of sharing their knowledge and teaching others. Needless to say this need to teach makes them learn and master varied disciplines. They are thus multifaceted and are eloquent speakers of multiple disciplines. They make good teachers as they have a strong sense of the need of his students and what needs to be taught to fulfill their needs. What makes them unique however is their capacity to draw knowledge from multiple disciplines to make their point and enriching what they teach. Although this is generally a positive trait of these natives, it can also negatively manifest as arrogance and snobbishness. They often have a sense of superiority of their knowledge over others and at time they become condescending. They often fall prey to a teacher student relationship in placed where it is not warranted such as marital relationship and friendship etc. Needless to say that they are inclined towards profession which involves teaching such as teachers, professors, preachers etc.
Nevertheless, they are respected for their knowledge and understanding and often take the role of advisors to influential people. Their understanding of vision and strategy can also make them seek professions such as strategy consulting or advisory services. It is good to have natives of this nakshatra in key planning and policy making positions of a state. Due to their allegiance to the state law, they are extremely intolerant towards any violations and if they become judge, they are utterly ruthless in giving punishments. They do not judge if certain laws are in favor of the people of the land and often go by what is established. While this is good in places where the laws are rightful, however, in places where it is not these natives become the ruthless executioners of the law without question.
The abundance of spiritual energy of Brihaspati makes them spiritual and philosophers like the natives of Punarvasu. However, unlike the natives of Punarvasu, who try to understand the philosophies related to creation, these natives try to understand how to enrich people's life. This makes them good in understanding the underlying philosophies of economics and politics. As a spiritual teacher they are known for their ability to understand complex doctrines and more than that their ability to explain that to lay man. Since they like to stick to the established practices, they are dogmatic and would praise their culture, tradition and religion over others. This also makes them lesser adaptive to newer thoughts and ideas and they are not inclined towards any breakthrough innovations. They can however, be interested in incremental innovation to make established things better. Their dogmatism and strong allegiance to their own culture and religion can also manifest in terms of fundamentalism and victimization of minorities.
Their hard work, patience and intellect can take them quite far in their career and they can easily rise to the top management. However, due to their affiliations to established rules and regulations, they are lesser adaptive to the fast changing socio-political, environmental and market conditions. They need to learn to be more receptive and adaptive to new thoughts and ideas. Although, that is quite unsettling to these natives, they can eventually adapt to that. Due to the influences of Jupiter such natives are charitable and get engaged in various humanitarian activities. They are deeply empathetic towards the underprivileged and try to uplift their life through various means. They are emotional and sensitive and hence are moved by the misery and sorrow in the world.
Although they are spiritual and philosophical they are still attracted by wealth and opulence. Thus they are engaged in various material pursuits and eventually succeed to attain that due to their hard work, intelligence and their ability to influence people. However due to their charitable attitude they share their wealth for various social causes. As the nakshatra suggests, they like to nourish and feed the society not only with thoughts by also with other material means such as food programs for orphanages etc.
They have strong need of social affiliation and they thrive in company of others. Due to this need, they are overly concerned about their public image and are ever engaged in the pursuit of developing a positive image. In a way, their self image and self confidence is directly linked to their public image. Thus if their image is hurt, they can be shattered. Their sensitivity towards their public image makes them vulnerable which can be exploited by people.
As the nakshatra name suggests they love to eat to the extent of becoming overweight and obese. They can suffer with diseased which happens due to abundance such as cholesterol and heart troubles, diabetes and at times hormonal deficiencies. They have a strong digestive system which makes them hungry quite often. They should however be mindful of what they are eating and should exercise caution while eating junk and high calorie foods.
Generally it is said that if a person is born in Ashlesha Nakshatra 4th Pada , it will bring misery to the father . if its the 3rd , it causes misery to the Mother in Law . But before deciding this , it is always better to see the Naraakaara Chakra Phala .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
As per my understanding of Mool Nakshatras. Theoretically, only the last 3'20 degree of 4th pada of mercury nakshtras and first 3'20 degree of 1st pada of ketu nakshatra is considered, what we call, gandmool nakshatra. And person born at this particular time of transit gets the effect of it.
Request the learned members of the group to correct me if I am wrong.
I have taken the liberty to post your last post on the Nakshatras to here for my further comments.
[quote]hi Astroboy
I think it's very good of you to take on the task of explaining the nakshatras. I love them myself and I can never get enough about them. This is because each & every author seems to have very different things to say about them. But I feel your analysis is somewhat on the pessimistic side. So I wanted to say something of what some of those nakshatras made me think about.
Ashwini - is the healer. This is a sattvic nakshatra. It blends in the qualities of Mars like swiftness and physical abilities with Ketu's healing and all-knowing side. Ketu brings its past-life knowledge to better those around him in this nakshatra. This nakshatra represents beginnings and regeneration. Much creativity lies there. It is a lively and happy-go-lucky nakshatra.
Ardra - the giver of life. It is ike being inside a storm. It is hard to see through and confusion is all around. That is the difficulty of this nakshatra. But storms are also part of how the world goes around, and so it can give release. Rahu can help one shed many skins in one's lifetime and not grow too attached to them. This is why the diamond is part of the imagery of this nakshatra. A diamond is very sharp and very pure and takes much effort to be produced. We all think of Rahu as very harsh but in fact this nakshatra is also sattvic. If some changes look like violent storms they trigger new opportunities & new growth. This has to be under Rahu, since Rahu is futuristic. And this is what best this nakshtra has to give. [unquote]
How true Nina of what you said. That's why in my post when I talk about the different eras of the Nakshatras, I said that the Pluto in Ardra generation were very good. They know how to handle difficulties and forge ahead. They are the salt of the Earth! They do not mind rolling up their sleeves and tackling the hard work and they are successful! The generation with Pluto in Ardra were those born around (before and after) 1914, the start of World War I. They also have the unbeatable combination of having Pluto in Gemini - K N Rao on the other hand has Pluto in Gemini but his Pluto is in Puna so that makes him a softer person.
Pluto in Ashwini generation like I mentioned in my post were inventors in the 19th century.
I like your jingle which you gave to yourself.
"Faith is the Lark that Sings in the Dark".
You give hope and optimism in whatever posts you write. As an astrologer, sometimes it not so much the technical excellence (although you are excellent). It is in the spirit and soul of how one give comfort to others with what you write. Everytime I read your post I feel uplifted.
by nina » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:23 am
hi Astroboy
I think it's very good of you to take on the task of explaining the nakshatras. I love them myself and I can never get enough about them. This is because each & every author seems to have very different things to say about them. But I feel your analysis is somewhat on the pessimistic side. So I wanted to say something of what some of those nakshatras made me think about.
Nina ji , Good day to you ,
I wrote this on the 8th of april 2011 before i started the nakshatras thread . Please read it carefully .
by astroboy » Fri Apr 08, 2011 8:55 am
As you all know by now, I tend to think in a extremely negative fashion . Misery is the key word to be used here . out of the 7 billion creatures on earth , 6.9 billion plus are on a emotional, or financial Shiit street . Misery is everywhere , just like polluted air . I have there fore decided to focus more on what troubles a Nakshatra can create , rather than focus on the positive aspects . A note of Caution . Please do not try to apply every thing to a chart verbatim . There can be many modifications to these dictums . For example Please remember that a Shani Shukra combination , Can make one Gay , or induce superb renunciatory tendencies . We have to assess in which plane the planet is acting .
I request one and all , Not to write anything in the "Nakshatras"thread until I have completed all the 27 nakshatras . I want it to be a smooth flow without any other post interrupting me . Please bear with me. In the mean time , If anyone has inputs , I will open another thread , where a discussion can start regarding the Nakshatras . It will be named " The Nakshatras - Discussion . Please feel free to write there . Inputs while I build this data base are most welcome on that thread .
Best regard's
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
by nirmala » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:53 pm
Dear astroboy ji,
When is the next post on the nakshatra thread coming?
Its not fair to keep us waiting this long
Regards,
Nirmala
so true.regards
see in forest mummy duck is going to water pond for swimming means - daddy duck and baby ducks is going in the backside of mummy duck and jumping in water. Not looking this side not looking that side. Simply jumping.
by nirmala » Fri Apr 29, 2011 11:53 pm
Dear astroboy ji,
When is the next post on the nakshatra thread coming?
Its not fair to keep us waiting this long
Moved from Nakshatras
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Re: The Nakshatras
by nina » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:23 am
hi Astroboy
I think it's very good of you to take on the task of explaining the nakshatras. I love them myself and I can never get enough about them. This is because each & every author seems to have very different things to say about them. But I feel your analysis is somewhat on the pessimistic side. So I wanted to say something of what some of those nakshatras made me think about.
Ashwini - is the healer. This is a sattvic nakshatra. It blends in the qualities of Mars like swiftness and physical abilities with Ketu's healing and all-knowing side. Ketu brings its past-life knowledge to better those around him in this nakshatra. This nakshatra represents beginnings and regeneration. Much creativity lies there. It is a lively and happy-go-lucky nakshatra.
Ardra - the giver of life. It is ike being inside a storm. It is hard to see through and confusion is all around. That is the difficulty of this nakshatra. But storms are also part of how the world goes around, and so it can give release. Rahu can help one shed many skins in one's lifetime and not grow too attached to them. This is why the diamond is part of the imagery of this nakshatra. A diamond is very sharp and very pure and takes much effort to be produced. We all think of Rahu as very harsh but in fact this nakshatra is also sattvic. If some changes look like violent storms they trigger new opportunities & new growth. This has to be under Rahu, since Rahu is futuristic. And this is what best this nakshtra has to give.
Since Artha or wealth is the primary motivation Magha people become motivated to material prosperity. Magha people can sometimes win the kingdom, but lose the soul.
Dear Astroboy ji,
Thanks for updating the nakshatra thread.. that was one long wait!!
I have a question about the magha nakshatra.. I apologize in advance if you find the question silly but I am sort of confused about this.
From most of the literature I have read, Ketu is all about detachment from material posessions and moving on towards spiritual growth. Then why should people born in a ketu ruled nakshatra be so overly attached to material wealth. Should it not be the other way round??
Good question Nirmala . This is what I like . Questions like this .
every source of energy has two polarities . Negative and Positive . In Music we have the higher octave and Lower octave . The planets are where they are because they have a opposite counteracting force acting on them . Similarly we have Dr Jekyl and Hyde inside us . We all have two planes on which we function That is why the first thing we have to learn in Jyotish is how to understand on which plane the planet or Nakshatra is functioning . And believe me . That is a very tough task . The planets seldom reveal , or rather , want to reveal what they are up too . .
For example , In western Astrology , The Sun is deemed to be a Benefic , while in Vedic astrology , Its deemed "Cruel" and "Ugra" . There is a good reason why this is so . Many parts of Europe crave for the Sun , while in India , one summer in the plains of India is enough to make you understand what the Sun can do . Same planet , same Earth . But two sides to the story .
The same Nakshatra and its lord can give one the powers to leave the body . Spiritual liberation is possible here . But that is provided Ketu is placed well , Ravi is unafflicted, and all the other factors are equal .
All other factors being equal , the same nakshatra produced Swami Yogananda , And when Magha acted malefically , It also gave rise to Ted Bundy , the serial killer and Rapist . Please note , I am writing only about the negative effects of the Nakshatras . Not the positive .
Best regard's
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Dear astroboy ji,
Thanks for the clear and precise explanation. I think i understand now.
When you say, "negative traits of the nakshatra" I think you mean "when the nakshatra is afflicted in some way"
An unaffliced nakshatra would probably not have so many negative traits...
Is correct . Take Ted Bundy . He has a exalted Ketu in Scorpio , which was tainted by the House lord Kuja . Lagna is in Magha Nakshatra . . This Nakshatra is anyways related to fierce and cruel activities . This man had a great interest in Sexual allurements . Ted Bundy sometimes revisited his secondary crime scenes to lie next to the dead women and have sex with the corpses, until they had reached an advanced state of decomposition. He decapitated a number of victims with a hacksaw and kept some of the heads in his apartment as mementos for a period of time before discarding them.
Biographer Ann Rule described Bundy as "...a sadistic sociopath who took pleasure from another human's pain and the control he had over his victims, to the point of death, and even after."He once called himself "...the most cold-blooded son of a bitch you'll ever meet." FBI profiler Robert K. Ressler agreed. "This guy was an animal," he wrote, "and it amazed me that the media seemed unable to understand that.
This is why I say . Look at the condition of the Moon before you even see the Lagna . Then look at Budha . His Moon is in Jeyshta . I have written before , All other factors being equal , when afflicted - Budha + Chandra = Pisacha Yoga . Now mix that with Magha's traits . You have a ready mix maniac ready to create Havoc .
Through hard work and spiritual practices, a person gets honor and dignity. The lazy one who puts in no efforts is like a fool who allows salt to be spilled on the wounds of his misfortunes. The idler depending only on fate, achieves nothing. - K.N.Rao ji
Astroboy ji,
Then to me it seems that the condition moon is probably a little more imp than the lagna, lagna nakshatra or anything else.
The lagna nakshatra afflictions take you towards the wrong path, but its the affliction to the moon that make you walk that path.
afflicted moon = afflicted mind.
, I dont want to put my legs into political Craap , But there must be a compelling reason why a man of his stature was shot dead . 
. Let me tell you , I do not deny that he was a great man . His one statement is enough to convince me that he was indeed great . the statement was " you can measure the progress of a society and a country by the way it treats its animals . "
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