9th and 10th Lords-critical to success& wealth from Career

[shilpa]

Thanks for reply, Madam my interest in related to Readymade Garments & Sarees. (Men, Women, Kids).
As per my chart Jupiter Mahadasha starting in August'2011, Madam, What Jupiter Mahadasha produce me good result of money wise or wealth wise ?

regard/ Ranjan

Hi Shilpa
Madam, In future Can I start business if yes then it will be beneficial for me and which line of business will suit to me.

Presently I am doing job in export house an accountant I have no experience in any kind of business & not big money for doing business, kindly suggust me more suitable & beneficial field which kind produce me base after that I can achieve success in business line.

I will thankfull to you for your reply.

My date of Birth 16-09-1975
Time ; 02.15 am
Place, Devprayag, Tehri Garhwal, uttranchal, India (30N09 78E36)

regard / Ranjan.

dear ranjan,

--Jup sits in it's own house in the 9th Bhagyasthan in the Rasi charts and Lords the 10th house in Dasamsa chart.

--Jup is the Karak of wealth and very strong in yuor higher divisonal charts.

--Jup will be the dasanath of the mahadasa starting Aug 2011 for a period of 18 years. This should be a very good period for you.

--if you do decide to start business, there will be hurdles ( as Jup rules 6th house also), but you will be able to overcome all.

agriculture, land/ housing/ properties related may be areas suited to you as your own business areas......there will be struggles, but you should succeed.
I do not know about your own inclinations......if you have other areas of business also in your mind, let me know and I can see if there are secondary planets influencing / aspecting your career that could help in other areas also

regards

Dear Ranjan,

Yoir 10th Lord Mars sits in the 11th house and in it's own Nakshatra.
and Jupiter is the Lord of 9th in his own house.
You will be successful in most things especially under the upcmoing Jup Dasa..
So in Sarees/ Garments you should see success but work will be harder and upside moderate...still you will be successful.
In areas relating to Mars...such as land/ agriculture/ properties....you could see much higher upsides.

Regards

[shilpa]

Tauras ascdent - 9th and 10th lord saturn placed in 5th house. Moon is in ascendent.
From 9th house - 9th lord mercury placed in 6th house (libra), 10 lord venus placed in saggitarious sign.
From 10th house - 10th lord mars placed in 4th house (Leo)

Dasmasa chart : pisces ascendent. Jupiter and moon being vargottama (navmansha and dasmasa) Jupiter in 9th house(scorpio) Moon in 5th house(cancer), saturn in 10th house.

Is there any success and wealth from career for this lady?

Regards
Nilesh

hello anilesh.......having the date/time/ place of birth will be more helpful

[ferrari]

Shilpa Ji,

How will be my Ketu Mahadasa on career front. In general how will by career?
Earlier i was working in service sector, i quit my job in Aug 09 then tried as consultant not successful though.
Trying service sector jobs nearly 6 months no response.

Thanks for your analysis on my chart.

Thanks
Ferrari

Shilpa Ji,

DOB:19/08/1980(19th Aug)
TOB:1:29 PM
POB:Madras, Tamilnadu

ASC & Moon in Scorpio

Thanks
ferrar

from the lagna:

--9th lord is Moon is debilitated in 1st house of Scorpio

--10th lord is Su in it's own house....very strong position for Sun and makes that a very strong 10th house,

--Sun and Moon are in mutual kendra....so DKAY is indeed satisfied. Although debilitated lord of dharmsthan, conjunct with ascendant, weak in dasa-varga chart taints the yoga.

But Sun is extremely strong in Das-Varga chart and should on it's own take you quite high in your career....as a business leader, department head, executive circles.
By th age of 57 you will rise to great heights....on hitting the sun mahadasa
Until then the sun anatardasas will give you spurts of growth.

Wear a moonstone....and pray on Mondays...will relax the menatl turbulense that you often face

[/quote]

[shilpa]

Shilpa Ji,

How will be my Ketu Mahadasa on career front. In general how will by career?
Earlier i was working in service sector, i quit my job in Aug 09 then tried as consultant not successful though.
Trying service sector jobs nearly 6 months no response.

Thanks for your analysis on my chart.

Thanks
Ferrari

Shilpa Ji,

DOB:19/08/1980(19th Aug)
TOB:1:29 PM
POB:Madras, Tamilnadu

ASC & Moon in Scorpio

Thanks
ferrar

from the lagna:

--9th lord is Moon is debilitated in 1st house of Scorpio

--10th lord is Su in it's own house....very strong position for Sun and makes that a very strong 10th house,

--Sun and Moon are in mutual kendra....so DKAY is indeed satisfied. Although debilitated lord of dharmsthan, conjunct with ascendant, weak in dasa-varga chart taints the yoga.

But Sun is extremely strong in Das-Varga chart and should on it's own take you quite high in your career....as a business leader, department head, executive circles.
By th age of 57 you will rise to great heights....on hitting the sun mahadasa
Until then the sun anatardasas will give you spurts of growth.

Wear a moonstone....and pray on Mondays...will relax the menatl turbulense that you often face

[/quote]



hello ferari,

Ke is never a very good period....detachment, disenchantment, hopelessness, relationship probelms all charcterize Ket dasa.....especially the start part i.e Ke-Ke

In your case Ket dasa will invoke, spiritualism, interests in reading / writing / communications/ exepnses/ religious inclinations....as many side activities.

It is the time to build on any spiritual/ religious inclinations that one has.

Around the Mid 2012 during Ke-Sun dasha is when your career should pick up strength.

regards

[anilesh47]

Hello Shilpaji,

Thanks for ur reply. Following is details.

13th November 1981
18:11
Jaipur, Rajasthan

Regards
Nilesh

[R V RAMANAN]

Dear Rishi Rahul

I agree fully with the fact that the dharma in kaliyuga may not be the same as in some previous yugas. The ancient sages meant that dharma for the individual according to the varna he is born.

In simple terms dharma means what you are supposed to do and karma means what you do.

In the dharmakarmadhi pathi yoga if what you are supposed to do merges with what you do then technically speaking you dissolve a lot of karma rather than accumulating it.

the same dharmakarmadhi pathi yoga helps in spiritual evolution if the 9th and the 10th lords are friends for eg., for taurus, virgo, scorpio, capricorn, pisces, cancer. For these ascendants the 9th and 10th lord association is more effective and helps the person to evolve faster.

If you look at it a bit deeply that this combo is god's blessing for the earthy and watery lagna people to evolve.

But for the other 6 lagnas there may be fortune, good career etc though not much negation of karma

Trust this helps

Regards
Ramanan

[Sunds]

Dear Rishi Rahul



the same dharmakarmadhi pathi yoga helps in spiritual evolution if the 9th and the 10th lords are friends for eg., for taurus, virgo, scorpio, capricorn, pisces, cancer. For these ascendants the 9th and 10th lord association is more effective and helps the person to evolve faster.

If you look at it a bit deeply that this combo is god's blessing for the earthy and watery lagna people to evolve.

Regards
Ramanan

Ramanan Sir,
My ninth and tenth lord is not conjuct in the rasi chart but they are conjunct in the Bhava-Chalit chart in the second bhava....Does that help in any way...
DOB:3/Sept./1968
Time:3.40AM
Place:Chennai
Regards,
Sunder.

[surya]

Hello Shilpa ji,

Great discussion.

I have 9th. lord (Sa) in 8th.
and 10th. lord (Ju) in 9th.

My details: date - oct. 1st 1962
time: 22:27
place: goregaon

Can you see any good progress on the career front. My career has come to a full stop, for past 2yrs. I would like to know, if I would be back in service soon ?? Please advise.

Respectfully,
Surya

[R V RAMANAN]

Dear Sundar

I am afraid not much.

Here below I give the quote from a reputed astrologer

The Bhava Chakras rest on the foundation of the Rasi Chakra, so they can add detail to what is indicated by the Rasi Chakra, but they can in no way alter what the Rasi Chakra indicates. I have found that a planet will manifest the indications as seen in the Rasi Chakra, through the house it falls in the Bhava Chakra.

you can deduce yourself.

Regards
Ramanan

[shilpa]

Hello Shilpa ji,

Great discussion.

I have 9th. lord (Sa) in 8th.
and 10th. lord (Ju) in 9th.

My details: date - oct. 1st 1962
time: 22:27
place: goregaon

Can you see any good progress on the career front. My career has come to a full stop, for past 2yrs. I would like to know, if I would be back in service soon ?? Please advise.

Respectfully,
Surya

i see your ascendant Tarus and 9th and 10th lord both are Sat
I don;t see Jup is your 10th lord?
Goregaon is Mumbai isn't it?

[shilpa]

Dear Rishi Rahul

I agree fully with the fact that the dharma in kaliyuga may not be the same as in some previous yugas. The ancient sages meant that dharma for the individual according to the varna he is born.

In simple terms dharma means what you are supposed to do and karma means what you do.

Ramanan

Dear Ramanan and all,

The definition of Dharma is an interesting subject and raises many questions:

--what was considered Dharma in Vedic times ( 2000 to 4000 BC) has evolved throuhg ages and Yugas and is diffret now?
--Did the sages not know that the definitons of dharma will evolve?
--If yes did they leave any indicators in any of the scriptures?
--Dharma literally translated means religion.......but broadly it is social+ moral values ( in my view)
--social and moral values differ in cultures/ countries and religions?
--Did the sages know that from Hinduism as the center of the universe and a few other minor similar polyathestic religions THEN
--the world will evolve into monoathestic and hence vastly diffrent religions like Islam and Christianity...whose social/ value principle if anywhere between siginificantly to vastly different?
--Do our vedic principles apply to human beings outside hindusim also ??? Partially wholly or not at alll....I feel partially?
--The more I look at it...the more I feel that the concept of " There is One god a huge fallacy". The god of hindus is diffrent from those of cristians and muslims.

[R V RAMANAN]

Dear Shilpa

Though the definition of dharma may vary and in Hindi the word Dharam may mean even religion, in this context I feel the word dharma means a life in a dharmic way that is not to go against your conscience at any cost.

Regards
Ramanan

[shilpa]

Dear Shilpa

Though the definition of dharma may vary and in Hindi the word Dharam may mean even religion, in this context I feel the word dharma means a life in a dharmic way that is not to go against your conscience at any cost.

Regards
Ramanan

I agree

[rishirahul]

Dear Rishi Rahul

I agree fully with the fact that the dharma in kaliyuga may not be the same as in some previous yugas. The ancient sages meant that dharma for the individual according to the varna he is born.
RishiRahul= Varna is a CLASSIFICATION used to denote the type of dharma adopted by an individual/ is natural in an individual.
Dharmakarmakidhari yoga is an YOGA.
Please understand the difference between an yoga and a classification. The have different senses/meaning/uses.

In simple terms dharma means what you are supposed to do and karma means what you do.
RishiRahul= No. Please do not get confused with dharma & karma. There can be good or bad karma; also good or bad dharma.
Good karma, less; and dhrma morely is dependant on 'desh kaal and patro'.

In the dharmakarmadhi pathi yoga if what you are supposed to do merges with what you do then technically speaking you dissolve a lot of karma rather than accumulating it.
RishiRahul= If Dharmakarmadhikari yoga has happened in chart... IT has happened. The rest that we can try to change is through the limited action of free will.

the same dharmakarmadhi pathi yoga helps in spiritual evolution if the 9th and the 10th lords are friends for eg., for taurus, virgo, scorpio, capricorn, pisces, cancer. For these ascendants the 9th and 10th lord association is more effective and helps the person to evolve faster.

If you look at it a bit deeply that this combo is god's blessing for the earthy and watery lagna people to evolve.

But for the other 6 lagnas there may be fortune, good career etc though not much negation of karma

Trust this helps

Regards
Ramanan

I was talking of the yoga as a whole and not its post mortem. But first, one has to get the sense to its proper place. Also my reply underlined in bold within the 'quoted'.


RishiRahul

[rishirahul]

Dear Rishi Rahul

I agree fully with the fact that the dharma in kaliyuga may not be the same as in some previous yugas. The ancient sages meant that dharma for the individual according to the varna he is born.

In simple terms dharma means what you are supposed to do and karma means what you do.

Ramanan

Dear Ramanan and all,

The definition of Dharma is an interesting subject and raises many questions:

--what was considered Dharma in Vedic times ( 2000 to 4000 BC) has evolved throuhg ages and Yugas and is diffret now?
--Did the sages not know that the definitons of dharma will evolve?
--If yes did they leave any indicators in any of the scriptures?
--Dharma literally translated means religion.......but broadly it is social+ moral values ( in my view)
--social and moral values differ in cultures/ countries and religions?
--Did the sages know that from Hinduism as the center of the universe and a few other minor similar polyathestic religions THEN
--the world will evolve into monoathestic and hence vastly diffrent religions like Islam and Christianity...whose social/ value principle if anywhere between siginificantly to vastly different?
--Do our vedic principles apply to human beings outside hindusim also ??? Partially wholly or not at alll....I feel partially?
--The more I look at it...the more I feel that the concept of " There is One god a huge fallacy". The god of hindus is diffrent from those of cristians and muslims.

Hi,

In the usage of Jyotish and other we should not neglect/ take into consideration..'DESH, KAAL & PATRO. Shouldnt we?

RishiRahul

[R V RAMANAN]

Dear Rishi rahul

The sages say that the varna in which you are born is a direct resultant of your previous karma. The action, attitude both good and bad are involved in this. The net resultant is that you are born in a particular varna so that you practise a particular dharma. The matrix of Desh, Kaal and Patro may decide your actions but never the quality of your values and the way you uphold it. Dharma here means this. Here the quality of karma is not in question but the attitude behind it, meaning what prompted a man to do what he did. Why this yoga or combination is held in such high esteem is because that combination upholds dharma while performing a karma. This particular yoga apart from giving normal mundane benefits must be looked into higher realms.

Trust this helps

Regards
Ramanan

[shilpa]

Dear Ramanan and all,

The definition of Dharma is an interesting subject and raises many questions:

--what was considered Dharma in Vedic times ( 2000 to 4000 BC) has evolved throuhg ages and Yugas and is diffret now?
--Did the sages not know that the definitons of dharma will evolve?
--If yes did they leave any indicators in any of the scriptures?
--Dharma literally translated means religion.......but broadly it is social+ moral values ( in my view)
--social and moral values differ in cultures/ countries and religions?
--Did the sages know that from Hinduism as the center of the universe and a few other minor similar polyathestic religions THEN
--the world will evolve into monoathestic and hence vastly diffrent religions like Islam and Christianity...whose social/ value principle if anywhere between siginificantly to vastly different?
--Do our vedic principles apply to human beings outside hindusim also ??? Partially wholly or not at alll....I feel partially?
--The more I look at it...the more I feel that the concept of " There is One god a huge fallacy". The god of hindus is diffrent from those of cristians and muslims.

Hi,

In the usage of Jyotish and other we should not neglect/ take into consideration..'DESH, KAAL & PATRO. Shouldnt we?

RishiRahul[/quote]

HelloRishiRahul,

That's covered in what I have aaid.
howvever there are wider issues....such as non hindu relgion and their owning gods

[surya]

Hello Shilpa ji,

Great discussion.

I have 9th. lord (Sa) in 8th.
and 10th. lord (Ju) in 9th.

My details: date - oct. 1st 1962
time: 22:27
place: goregaon

Can you see any good progress on the career front. My career has come to a full stop, for past 2yrs. I would like to know, if I would be back in service soon ?? Please advise.

Respectfully,
Surya

Hello Shilpa ji,

In JHora, place shows up as Goregaon, India (80 E 13' 00", 12 N 22' 00").
Lagna of Gemini
Ra, Ma in 2nd.
Me(r), Su in 4rth.
Mo, Ve in 5th.
Sa(r), Ke in 8th.
Ju (r) in 9th.

Respectfully,
S

[rishirahul]

Dear Rishi rahul

The sages say that the varna in which you are born is a direct resultant of your previous karma. The action, attitude both good and bad are involved in this. The net resultant is that you are born in a particular varna so that you practise a particular dharma. The matrix of Desh, Kaal and Patro may decide your actions but never the quality of your values and the way you uphold it. Dharma here means this. Here the quality of karma is not in question but the attitude behind it, meaning what prompted a man to do what he did. Why this yoga or combination is held in such high esteem is because that combination upholds dharma while performing a karma. This particular yoga apart from giving normal mundane benefits must be looked into higher realms.

Trust this helps

Regards
Ramanan

Dear RAMANAN,

Please go through the link below which explains the varna sense well=
http://www.venoastrology.com/varnas.htm which goes to say=
Jyotish is a brahminical science and belongs to the Brahmin varna. According to the Vedas there are four varnas, these varnas are based on guna and karma. The four varnas are brahmins (priests, teachers, scholars), kshatriyas (kings, rulers, warriors), vaishyas (merchants,farmers) and shudras (artisans, labourers, servants).

This caste system is different to the caste system of classifying types of members in society based on one's bloodline and lineage. There is also another group not mentioned in the varna categories, i.e. mlecchas/untouchables, These are persons who do not conform to any of the four castes i.e. brahmins, kshatriyas, vaishyas, shudras and who stand outside of society. These outcastes could belong to a particular varna however, a lowly wandering beggar might belong to the shudra or brahma varna, a business minded criminal to the vaishya varna, a rebellious hero like Robin Hood to the kshatriya varna or an eccentric mystic hermit to the brahma varna. All castes in more evolved times could be classed as having brahminical qualities because everyone would be spiritually awakened and possessing knowledge.

By following one's varna (inherent potential,karma and dharma) all beings can move towards enlightenment in a harmonious manner, in agreement with divine will, thus moving harmoniously in the world/society, performing the most appropriate service.


An important usage of varna matching is in marriage matching, and it shows the spiritual class of his chart.. or his broad self. It is not TYPICAL to the person.

A person of Brahmin varna may have his qualities vitiated... heightened etc. depending upon his personal planetary positions.

Dharma karmadhkary yoga is about the typical planetary positions.

In other words, VARNA is a BROAD CLASSIFICATION; while dharmakarmadhikay is not.
Varna refers to caste VARNA refers to caste .it is very important in Astrology . There are 4 Varnas 1) BRAHMIN 2) KSHATRIYA 3) VAISHYA 4) SHUDRA. It is determined from his or her Janam Rashi, and is primarily used for marriage matching.

Everything has its place and usages and their senses should not get mixed up.

RishiRahul

[rishirahul]

Dear Ramanan and all,

The definition of Dharma is an interesting subject and raises many questions:

--what was considered Dharma in Vedic times ( 2000 to 4000 BC) has evolved throuhg ages and Yugas and is diffret now?
--Did the sages not know that the definitons of dharma will evolve?
--If yes did they leave any indicators in any of the scriptures?
--Dharma literally translated means religion.......but broadly it is social+ moral values ( in my view)
--social and moral values differ in cultures/ countries and religions?
--Did the sages know that from Hinduism as the center of the universe and a few other minor similar polyathestic religions THEN
--the world will evolve into monoathestic and hence vastly diffrent religions like Islam and Christianity...whose social/ value principle if anywhere between siginificantly to vastly different?
--Do our vedic principles apply to human beings outside hindusim also ??? Partially wholly or not at alll....I feel partially?
--The more I look at it...the more I feel that the concept of " There is One god a huge fallacy". The god of hindus is diffrent from those of cristians and muslims.

Hi,

In the usage of Jyotish and other we should not neglect/ take into consideration..'DESH, KAAL & PATRO. Shouldnt we?


Hi Shilpa,

Yes, its covered in what you said very much.. but I also mentioned the words, as its a essential part of Jyotish and or general truth of life.

We have to account for changing circumstances, different beliefs and their belief systems (desh for countries, kaal for time/samay and patro for 'vartman'/material present).

Arent the rest of the factors you just mentioned included their too?

RishiRahul

RishiRahul

HelloRishiRahul,

That's covered in what I have aaid.
howvever there are wider issues....such as non hindu relgion and their owning gods[/quote]

[shilpa]

Hello Shilpa ji,

Great discussion.

I have 9th. lord (Sa) in 8th.
and 10th. lord (Ju) in 9th.

My details: date - oct. 1st 1962
time: 22:27
place: goregaon

Can you see any good progress on the career front. My career has come to a full stop, for past 2yrs. I would like to know, if I would be back in service soon ?? Please advise.

Respectfully,
Surya

Hello Shilpa ji,

In JHora, place shows up as Goregaon, India (80 E 13' 00", 12 N 22' 00").
Lagna of Gemini
Ra, Ma in 2nd.
Me(r), Su in 4rth.
Mo, Ve in 5th.
Sa(r), Ke in 8th.
Ju (r) in 9th.

Respectfully,
S

I get the same chart now with the coordinates you have ......but those are not the coordinates for Goregaon?
Is it Goregaon in Maharashtra......the coordinates are 80'13" and 21'22"
I think we should confirm the location and lat/ long before investing time in chart review

[surya]

Hello Shilpa ji,

Great discussion.

I have 9th. lord (Sa) in 8th.
and 10th. lord (Ju) in 9th.

My details: date - oct. 1st 1962
time: 22:27
place: goregaon

Can you see any good progress on the career front. My career has come to a full stop, for past 2yrs. I would like to know, if I would be back in service soon ?? Please advise.

Respectfully,
Surya

Hello Shilpa ji,

In JHora, place shows up as Goregaon, India (80 E 13' 00", 12 N 22' 00").
Lagna of Gemini
Ra, Ma in 2nd.
Me(r), Su in 4rth.
Mo, Ve in 5th.
Sa(r), Ke in 8th.
Ju (r) in 9th.

Respectfully,
S

I get the same chart now with the coordinates you have ......but those are not the coordinates for Goregaon?
Is it Goregaon in Maharashtra......the coordinates are 80'13" and 21'22"
I think we should confirm the location and lat/ long before investing time in chart review

Yes, Shilpa ji. It is Goregaon in Mumbai (Maharashtra) with the coordinates which you mentioned.

Respectfully,
S

[surya]

Hello Shilpa ji,

Hello Shilpa ji,

In JHora, place shows up as Goregaon, India (80 E 13' 00", 12 N 22' 00").
Lagna of Gemini
Ra, Ma in 2nd.
Me(r), Su in 4rth.
Mo, Ve in 5th.
Sa(r), Ke in 8th.
Ju (r) in 9th.

Respectfully,
S

I get the same chart now with the coordinates you have ......but those are not the coordinates for Goregaon?
Is it Goregaon in Maharashtra......the coordinates are 80'13" and 21'22"
I think we should confirm the location and lat/ long before investing time in chart review

Yes, Shilpa ji. It is Goregaon in Mumbai (Maharashtra) with the coordinates which you mentioned.

Respectfully,
S

I googled, found this coordinates of Goregaon, Maharashtra (18.17N , 73.3E). This gives me lagna of Taurus like you have mentioned above. I think, there might be a problem with my JHora which shows Goregaon with 80'13" and 21'22" and lagna of Gemini.

Respectfully,
S

[shilpa]

I googled, found this coordinates of Goregaon, Maharashtra (18.17N , 73.3E). This gives me lagna of Taurus like you have mentioned above. I think, there might be a problem with my JHora which shows Goregaon with 80'13" and 21'22" and lagna of Gemini.

Respectfully,
S

good we've got the city figured....these are coords for mumbai.
i still wonder how you found goregaon in Jhora.....there is no city by that name.
if you type goregaon...it shows you guntur.

i will get back tomorrwo

[shilpa]

Dear Surya

You are currently running Me-Mo period.
Your dasa Lord Me is combust ( not badly) and Moon is innimically placed in the 6th house of enemies and hurdles at work place.

after May 2011....Me-Mars period starts...which should be better....as Mars is in friendly houses of Moon in the Rasi and also placed in the Nakshatra of Jupiter and Jupiter sits in a friendly house in the 10th in your dasamasa.