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dear shubra ji

u have not missed anything. have faith and keep doing these things.

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Shubhra ji , relax karo na . You concentrate on tiding over this year . You have a lot of work to do, just focus on that , Dont go into the nitty gritty of my analysis. That sentence "As of now, divorce is not seen " is a general statement made by me :) . I am not God to guarantee anything . You do not worry too much. Focus .

Best of luck .
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we did enagagement on 17th auguast and a court mariage on 20th septemeber...and he went to UK.
just the marriage between friends and family was left in jan but we had a fight on oct 29th,2010.
we had marriage on 24th janbut he didnt came back to india.
but since enagement we are having problems in our relationship..
regarding he misunderstanding me always.
please guide me whether i should marry him or not



Dreamz ji , Can you please explain this bit again . I think some thing is out of alignment . Correct me if I am wrong .

1. you got engaged on 17 Aug 2010
2. Court Marriage on 20th september 2010
3. then on October 29th 2010 you had a fight
4. Then in Jan 2011 you had a public marriage
5. He got married and left and has not returned since . Am I right ??
6. In spite of getting married to him , You faced problems with him since you got engaged . Is that Correct ? . But you still went on with the wedding ???

7. Now you ask this forum if you should marry him or not ??? . You say that you are already married to him . Where is the question of getting married again /???
Please clarify these points to me . I am totally confused .


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:shock: :shock: :shock: :? :? :?
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just the marriage between friends and family was left on 24th jan but we had a fight..so he got misunderstandings about me and he dint came.
i tried a lot to manaofy him but he remained adamant.
he is not ready to get married between family and friends which is left..
he is not even asking for divorce..i dont know what does he wants..
i have asked the question to you of marrying him or not because if he is not the perfect one i will get divorce and will move on.!!
what else i can do if he is not ready to accept me in his life.
the thing is i am still safe as i am not living with him so far..and nobody knows about this court marriage.
we did a registered marriage for my visa..
which was made by fake invitation card and my engagement pics.
Dreamz 86 , Good day to you .

Let me enlighten you on the laws of divorce in India . It is not about anybody knowing about the court marriage . Once you get married under the Hindu mariage act or rather in local terms a court / registered marriage , It is deemed for all practical purposes that you are married . The law does not care for "friends" and "family" . Once you have registered a marriage in the Marriage register, The only way you can say that you are "not married" is to file for a divorce in a court of law . There is no other way . Even if you file a case , it would require his signature, and he will have to come to a court and stand before a judge and say that he does not want to remain married . There is no other way .

To get a divorce you have to wait for at least 2 years to show that you have been living separated or that he has abandoned you . There is no provision in the law to grant you a divorce prior to the two years . Even after you file for divorce , there is a mandatory 6 months waiting period for reconciliation .

Suppose he comes and gives you a divorce , Your title will always remain as "Divorced" in the eyes of the law . There is no way around that . Family and friends dont count . The law counts . Suppose you got married before family and friends first and had not got the marriage registered , That would have not held good in the eyes of the law .
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FOR nadi dosh this are my inputs:
Your Rasi Lord : Saniswara (Saturn)
# Your Nakshatra : Thiruvonam (in Tamil), Sravana (in Sanskrit)
78.12% elapsed, 21.88% remaining.
This is the 22nd of the 27 nakshatras.
# Your Nakshatra Pada (quarter) : 4th pada (quarter)
12.48% elapsed, 87.52% remaining.
# Moon is at : 20° 25' in Makara (Capricorn)

and these are his.
Your Rasi : Meena (Pisces)
* Your Rasi Lord : Guru (Jupiter)
* Your Nakshatra : Revathi (in Tamil), Revathi (in Sanskrit)
75.16% elapsed, 24.84% remaining.
This is the 27th of the 27 nakshatras.
* Your Nakshatra Pada (quarter) : 4th pada (quarter)
0.64% elapsed, 99.36% remaining.
* Moon is at : 26° 41' in Meena (Pisces)


What is the TOB and DOB for this data ???
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Shubhraji,

Everyone on this thread has given a fabulous response to your query. Swamycool was EXCEPTIONAL. That analysis was something.

Ramanan as usual a great great remedial detail on Saturn. This must be truly followed by Shubra.

However, I fail to understand the practical part of the lady's horoscope.


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- Capricon Lagna - 7th Lord Moon exalted in NAvamsa Lagna, aspected by Jupiter from 9th. 7th Navamsa Mars in kendra in 10th. Moon in a kendra in the Rasi aspected by Jupiter. How do we justify there is something wrong with the 7th house and 7th Lord for this lady. ? vimsopaka for 7th lord moon is staggering 14.4 and Shadbala 415. Both higher than Saturn that is aspecting moon. This is beyond my understanding to be honest.

I turned myself to SSS.

7th Lord Moon is placed favourably in Rasi but meets deb Sat in navamsa. There is no jup aspect. Moons Strength goes down in Shadbala and Saturn scores high. Saturn scores higher than Jup and aspects it and DK Sun by 10th aspect in navamsa. Saturn rules. 6th Lord Mercury MD/AD running (Savana year preference in Vimshottari). Merc conjunct Rahu in navamsa without a protection from a benefic.

Narayana dasha is of 6th sign Leo from AL explaining the situation for D1.

That tells me the story.

Ok now lets narrow down on the remedy.

Leo hosts Lagna Lord Saturn, 5th lord Venus and 9th lord Mercury. All the luck factors are in the control of SUN that is placed in 9th in Rasi. But Sun is conjunct Rahu. Too bad.

In Navamsa Leo contains Merc+Rahu. Sun is in kendra conjunct Jupiter. What a relief.

So, if Sun is appeased, it will host Sat+Venus+Merc in Rasi very well. Sun is also Darakaraka. Appeasing it is a must. So, Shubra must recite Surya Stotras everyday early morning before Sunrise and offer Water to Surya Devata with water coming to the Tulasi plant (Mercury).

Sade Sati is on and Sat is Debiliated. Discipline is a must. Shubra must discipline herself in all possible ways and visit Shanidev temple everyday and offer oil and black til.

For Rahu she must visit Durgadevi temple and offer Chunri, prasad and offerings that Devi likes. She must not forget to pray Shri Parashuram along with Durgadevi.

These remedies will give her immense peace and I feel that the situation will come under control gradually.

-- The all in one remedy would be Shri Vishnu Panjar stotra. It has worked wonders for anyone and everyone that I have given. the caveat to recite this stotra is that it is for a person who leads satvik life. People on consumption of alcohol, nonveg etc must not recite this.

Shubhraji please email me on jyotish.sonu@[No Personal Contact Details on Public Forum].com and I will give you the PDFs. Lets do our best and leave the rest on God.

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Bhai , Good day to you ,

excellent job done . SSS does explain things very well . I was on Drik , The navamsha lagna shifted to Taurus 52 seconds back . I am sure that there was a error in recording of Birth time . 52 seconds is nothing in my opinion as far as errors go . I shifted the lagna back to Aries in D9 , and it all starts to make sense .

As far as the 7th lord moon in D1 goes, Moon is in Vishaka rules by Guru . Guru is in the 6th . Note that Guru is debilitated in the Navamsha . Chandra recieves the aspect of Shani from the 8th . I am sure that Chandra's state would not be good after this . The fact that Chandra is exalted, gave her marriage , made it last for 10 years , and makes her want him back . This exaltation of the moon is just a eye wash actually . Shukra the dispositor of Chandra in D9 is in the 12th house from Chandra and with a debilitated Shani . Not good in the least .


Now , having said all this , I am sure that it is the Sade sati which is playing havoc with her life . Nothing and nobody else can induce such pain and anxiety like Shani can . I have always asked myself this question "why Now ??" 10 years and only child later , why now ?? What is the trigger . That trigger is Shani's play . Simple .

The first thing I would reccomend is that she stop eating non vegitarian food as much as posible . This is a absolute must . I assume she does not drink :) ,So i will keep that advice for my self . :D .

the rest of the remedies , you have outlined beautifully . I am sure , That this storm will blow over in time .


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Bhai - Moon in Kendra will remove all blemishes of the horoscope, if aspected by Guru. In this horo in drik, it is aspected by Guru in navamsha also. Guru is guru whereever it is posited, its karaka based aspects will always save the native. Even from 6th house, Guru's aspects are always good, although Guru itself may not give as much phala of itself. A Guru even when debiliated, combust, powerless still acts like Sachin tendulkar at the age of 39. Still goes on to score a century in IPL and a double century in an ODI which he did not score when he was at his mightiest best when young.

Bhai Guru is Guru. Although deb, but in trine in navamsa aspecting exalted moon should protect the marriage, the marriage partner and all. Moon exalted alone would have been a diferent thing. But when it is aspected by Guru, it gives ulterior protection. Look at my horo bhai. Deb rahu in 10th. what karma should i have been gone with ??? Where should have been my mind as moon is in deb Rahu's nakshatra ?? But Guru , THE DEEP COMBUST guru, although does not give me money and job, still holds the sight on deb Rahu and gives it direction. the net result, I am jobless, i am short of finances. But it does not allow me to get into deb Rahu karma anyhow.

You have a debiliated Guru in lagna. aspects 5,7,9. Whatever negative you experienced in dasha's prior to Guru, it all is coming to an end in Guru dasha. Given you bhakti (aspects 5), relieved you of 7th house miseries (aspects 7), gave you a guru like Rao sir (aspects 9). So, bhai Guru never underestimate its power even when debiliated or in 6th.

Sadhe Saati will give her troubled times sure... Deb Sat in navamsa is a killer :( . Shanidev we all know. No one can do anything about it. You got to appease the Lord himself to come out of that. If Vikramditya was not spared, who are we .

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Bhai,

super . excellent analysis . No doubt Guru is doing his job well . 10 years is a long time in a $%^&*( up marriage . she has not seen one day of happiness , yet wants to cling on to this marriage . I am amazed . You have provided a answer for my question, "Why is this woman still after this worthless man" ? .

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Bhai,

If only Guru aspected Moon in NAvamsa also (as i use SSS), this day would not have come. :). If it was drik, we would have never heard from Shubhra is what i believe. She has hung on because of Guru in Rasi. When it comes to reaping the results, moon gets isolated with deb sat in lagna :( . It is as if Guru said "Look I took you this far with your Karma, now you are on your own" :) . I cant do anything for you in reaping the result. :(

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Dear Sonu,

I am happy we are reconciled with Guru now :D . I had to fight tooth and nail with you on another thread regarding Guru being benefic however weak. May Guru give you happiness and peace of mind always.
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chaks wrote:Dear Sonu,

I am happy we are reconciled with Guru now :D . I had to fight tooth and nail with you on another thread regarding Guru being benefic however weak. May Guru give you happiness and peace of mind always.
Dear Chaks,

There is no doubt on Guru. However, it has to be introspected with regards to the bhava and karaka involved. If the same guru you say it is weak but strong and should give me millions.. then NO it has not given me that..:) So i stand my ground on that. With every planet there are multiple energies involved. Some of its own, some of its aspects, some of it being in navamsa and d60 etc. Each has to be studied with regards to individual problem.

For e.g. In Shubra's chart, Guru in 6th with mars makes her husband irritable. It's all there my friend..:)

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shubhrarawlins wrote:Astrosonu:

Thanks for taking time out to read my charts. As Astroboy said, he had made some correction to the birth time.
I will start the remedies ASAP but i wanted to know what can i expect at the end of it all!!

Will I survive this storm and will my marriage survive this. Its IMP for me and my child and for our future together. I dont want her to ever feel that her mother did not give her best to save her family.

My daughter is a very very sensitive child and I wouldnt want her to ever feel deprived of love because her father is not around.

Marriage or no marriage, will I come out of this with stronger ....to look after my child!!

Shubhra

Shubhra give me your time before correction. the original one please.

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Agreed. A strong Guru and a weak Guru are two completely different things. However, I liked what you said about his aspects and that's what I have been homing in on always. Even if he is placed in a dusthana and debilitated, his aspects are beneficial and can bail you out when needed. Guess we agree on that :D
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Yes chaks. We agree on the aspect part.
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Sir ji ,

her time is 15 : 56 . I just moved it by 1 minute , and made it 15 : 55 . :oops: :oops: . Not BTR . Just moved it for my convinience . :oops:

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astroboy wrote:Sir ji ,

her time is 15 : 56 . I just moved it by 1 minute , and made it 15 : 55 . :oops: :oops: . Not BTR . Just moved it for my convinience . :oops:

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No issues bhai. Thanks for the info.
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I am new to astrology and would appreciate if you could explain to me what does Chandra's state would not be good after this mean? Does it mean, I might undergo severe depression and will not come out of it. I am sure I am already feeling lost and lonely. I have a 3 year old baby and for her sake its IMP that i maintain my sanity and live life as normally as possible. Do you think, I will be capable of this ......as per my horoscope.
Shubhra ji ,

let me tell you , in clear and simple terms , that you do not have a weak mind at all . In fact you are a tough nut to crack . What you are feeling is just the stress of the Sade Sati . Be rest assured , things will be fine .


Guru has always protected you in times of crisis . His aspect on the moon is most welcome . Guru is the most benefic planet in the entire Zodiac . The fact that you used the line " Its my dharma to make this marriage work for the sake of my child. She needs a family to grow up " . Only Guru can induce such noble thoughts . be cool and calm . Follow the remedies given to you . Believe me, you will be fine in time .


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Chaks ji & Sonu ji,
Agreed. A strong Guru and a weak Guru are two completely different things. However, I liked what you said about his aspects and that's what I have been homing in on always. Even if he is placed in a dusthana and debilitated, his aspects are beneficial and can bail you out when needed. Guess we agree on that
IMHO this is a wrong assumption. If Guru is the lord of any of the trik bhavas (6,8,12) he will still wreak havoc by his position and aspect. Here Guru's trik lordship is more important than his benefic nature.

In the case of Jaimini System, if Guru is the Gnati karak, Guru will destroy the Houses it aspects by rashi drishti. Here the position of Gnatikarak is more important than the benefic nature of Guru.

But does the super benefic nature of Guru has no function at all? Sure it does, Guru will do it nicely rather than harshly. Like a relationship or marriage will break amicably rather than with acrimony or fisticuffs. But it will still break.

There is no pure benefic and no pure malefic. Every planet gives mixed results as per lordship and its own nature. Shani can act as a huge benefic, but its bounty is delivered through hard toil, never easily. That's Shani's nature. There's the difference Guru is a happy old man and Shani is a grumpy old man.

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