I want to break Free

[Dev]

Hi Mahesh:
Hindu philosophy is soft target for everyone including for political leaders.
Is it that our philosophy of karma had made people too individualistic and
self-centered that made lack of unity and soft target to everyone
including our leaders nowdays?
I know your post is addressed to Astroboy who would very likely answer to u but to the above I just give my answer.
Wherever there is liberty given, we take liberty.
It is like we tease kids since they dont give back.
We sometimes or more often show anger to our parents since they dont punish us or give it back.
There is liberty that we can take with kids, with our parents and also with some friends who are real friends. So here there are no hard and fast rules. Same thing cannot be applied outside. At work, if u shout at your bass, u know what will happen eventually.
Similarly there are strict rules to be followed in many religions but in Hinduism, one is given freedom to pray to any God or God in any form. He is also allowed to be an atheist. This freedom gives everyone liberty to make comments easily. Whenever liberty is given, others can cross the limits and of course, even in a girl allowing her boy friend to cross the limits, she gives the liberty to him, if she were strict, he would not cross the limits.

Dev

[kunalbhardwaj27]

even in a girl allowing her boy friend to cross the limits, she gives the liberty to him, if she were strict, he would not cross the limits.

Dev

...SO TRUE

[Dev]

Thanks Kunal, So it is probably your personal experience

Dev

[kunalbhardwaj27]

by Dev » Mon Jan 31, 2011 5:56 am

Thanks Kunal, So it is probably your personal experience

Dev

I agree

[Dev]

Thank Kunal for being open, now u have turned green and it means peace which is good .
Dev

[lovacrs]

Mahesh ji,

Lastly, does it matter in which place/country one resides and practice spirituality?
It is like, if someone discovers a bulb at some place, it is useful to everyone.
Does the place of invention makes any difference?

Yes it does not matter. But it is important to judge whether it is easier to discover the bulb living in India or elsewhere. While a determined person can persevere, swim against the current and reach his goal, many can make it only along the current.If we look at literature of various countries, we can certainly see evidence of profound spirituality in each. Some times this leads to me to think that if we were to chart progress of spirituality against progress of civilization (assuming both can be measured) there will be a positive correlation till a certain point and negative correlation thereafter. Perhaps the West is in the negative part

[swamykool]

Arise! Let us go into the forest
Where pure roots and fruits will be our food,
Pure water our only drink,
Pure leaves our bed,
And where the little-minded, the thoughtless,
And those whose hearts are cramped with wealth
Do not exist.

Dear nidi83,

That was a lovely verse you put up. Could you pl let me know where english translations of Bhartrihari are available on the net.

regards
swamykool

[nidi83]

Yes Swamykool, they are all beautiful. Swamy vivekananda's translation, here goes:

http://www.ramakrishnavivekananda.info/ ... _frame.htm

Enjoy.

Thanking you,
Nidi

[swamykool]

Dear nidi83,

Thank you very much for the link.

regards
swamykool

[Zarna]

Something about vedanta & Hinduism...
Hinduism cannot be described as an organized religion. It is not founded by any individual. Hinduism is God centred and therefore one can call Hinduism as founded by God, because the answer to the question ‘Who is behind the eternal principles and who makes them work?’ will have to be ‘Cosmic power, Divine power, God’
Swami Vivekananda wrote:
There are these eternal principles, which stand upon their own foundations without depending on any reasoning, even much less on the authority of sages however great, of Incarnations however brilliant they may have been. We may remark that as this is the unique position in India, our claim is that the Vedanta only can be the universal religion, that it is already the existing universal religion in the world, because it teaches principles and not persons.
[The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, III,
Topic 'The Sages of India']
Swami Vivekananda wrote:
If you want to be religious, enter not the gate of any organised religion. They do a hundred times more evil than good, because they stop the growth of each one's individual development.... Religion is only between you and your God, and no third person must come between you. Think what these organised religions have done! What Nepoleon was more terrible than those religious persecutions? If you and I organise, we begin to hate every person . It is better not to love, if loving only means hating others. That is no love. That is hell! If loving your own people means hating everybody else, it is the quintessence of selfishness and brutality, and the effect is that it will make you brutes.
-The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, Volume I,
Topic 'The Gita III']
Swami Vivekananda wrote:
Truth is of two kinds: (1) that which is cognisable by the five ordinary senses of man, and by reasonings based thereon; (2) that which is cognisable by the subtle, super-sensuous power of Yoga.
Knowledge acquired by the first means is called science; and knowledge acquired by the second is called the Vedas.
The whole body of super sensuous truths, having no beginning or end, and called by the name of Vedas, is ever existent. The Creator Himself is creating, preserving and destroying the universe with the help of these truths.
The person in whom this super-sensuous power is manifested is called a Rishi, and the super-sensuous truths, which he realises by this power, are called the Vedas.
This Rishihood, this power of super-sensuous perception of the Vedas, is real religion. And so long as this does not develop in the life of an initiate, so long is religion a mere empty word to him, and it is to be understood that he has not taken yet the first step in religion.
The authority of the Vedas extends to all ages, climes and persons; that is to say, their application is not confined to any particular place, time and persons.
The Vedas are the only exponent of the universal religion.
Hinduism is based upon Eternal Principles. Eternal principles apply to all human beings everywhere. The laws of physics exist and work all the time. The healing principle will get to work immediately the moment a little cut is sustained on a finger. No one can tell when this healing principle began or when it will end. It is there existing eternally, all pervading (available everywhere), omniscient (aware all the time and therefore healing principle gets to work when injury is sustained). (These simplified examples serve to understand God’s power: omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent).
Hinduism is based upon Eternal Principles. If a great scientist like Einstein, discovered or realized laws of physics, Hinduism would call him a great Rishi (Maharshi or seer of truth.) Such seers of truth are not confined to any one age or country. Self realized persons like Jesus Christ would be called Rishis (seers) and their teachings would be readily acceptable to those who properly understand the principles of ‘Hinduism’. From the ancient times, many great Rishis achieved self-realisation through such practices as meditation and austerities and they realised knowledge concerning Eternal Principles. Their knowledge, taught to disciples, and eventually made available in written form, is known as the Vedas (Ved = knowledge), the scriptures upon which Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism) is based. Sanatan means eternal and Dharma means religion.
The word 'Hinduism ‘ does not appear anywhere in Hindu scriptures, The proper name for Hinduism is ‘Sanatan Dharma’ Sanatan = eternal Dharma = religion.
Hinduism is God centred. For this reason the whole of mankind has to abide by (or is affected by) the eternal principles. The question of acceptance or rejection of Hinduism by any individual simply does not arise, or is irrelevant. It is illogical to talk of conversion to Hinduism. It is like saying that the laws of physics (e.g.gravity) will apply to you only if you belong to an organization or organized religion.
[The ceremonies and rituals connected with Hinduism (and other religions) are designed to cultivate increased spirituality. At advanced level of spirituality, rituals and ceremonies are dispensed with]
Sri Madhusudana Sarasvati Wrote:
(Commentary Gita Ch.3, Shloka 16)
But he who has realised the Spreme Entity and does not derive pleasure from the senses, he on account of being self-fulfilled, does not incur sin even by not performing the rites which are thus the cause of the movement of the Wheel of the World.
From Brahadaranyaka Upanishad 1.4.10:
Even the gods cannot prevail against him (he who has realised the Spreme Entity). There need be no performance of any action even in the form of worship of gods for averting obstacles
Gita Ch. 3 Shloka 17:
The Blessed Lord said: But that man who rejoices only in the Self and is satisfied (only) with the Self, and is contended only in the Self - for him there is no duty to perform
Swami Vivekananda wrote:
[The Complete Works of Swami Vivekananda, III,
Topic 'The Sages of India']
The very fountain-head of our religion is in the Vedas (Srutis) which are perfectly impersonal; the persons all come in the Smritis and Puranas- the great Avataras, Incarnations of God, Prophets, and so forth.
[Note: Srutis means revealed knowledge; Smriti means memory, history]
And this ought also to be observed that except our religion (Sanatan Dharma; Hinduism) Hinduism is not based upon persons but on principles. That you obey your religion is not because it came through the authority of a sage, no, not even of an Incarnation. Krishna is not the authority of the Vedas, but the Vedas are the authority of Krishna himself. His glory is that he is the greatest preacher of the Vedas that ever existed.
So with the other Incarnations; so with all our sages. Our first principle is that all that is necessary for the perfection of man and for attaining unto freedom is there in the Vedas. You cannot find anything new. You cannot go beyond a perfect unity, which is the goal of all knowledge; this has been already reached there, and it is impossible to go beyond the unity. Religious knowledge became complete when Tat Twam Asi (Thou art That) was discovered, and that was in the Vedas.
What remained was the guidance of people from time to time according to different times and places, according to different circumstances and environments. People had to be guided along the old, old path and for this these great teachers came, these great sages. Nothing can bear out more clearly this position than the celebrated saying of Sri Krishna in the Gita : "Whenever virtue subsides and irreligion prevails, I create Myself for the protection of the good; for the destruction of all immorality I am coming from time to time."
What follows? That on the one hand, there are these eternal principles, which stand upon their own foundations without depending on any reasoning, even much less on the authority of sages however great, of Incarnations however brilliant they may have been. We may remark that as this is the unique position in India, the Vedanta can be the universal religion that it is already the existing universal religion in the world, because it teaches principles and not persons.
The Vedantic religion does not require any personal authority. Its sanction is the eternal nature of man, its ethics are based upon the eternal solidarity of man, already existing, already attained and not to be attained.
The Hindu can worship any sage and any saint from any country whatsoever, and as a fact we know that we go and worship many times in the churches of the Christians, and many times in the Mohammedan mosques and that is good. Why not? Ours, as I have said, is the universal religion. It is inclusive enough, it is broad enough to include all the ideals. All the ideals of religion that already exist in the world can be immediately included, and we can patiently wait for all the ideals that are to come in the future to be taken in the same fashion, embraced in the infinite arms of the religion of the Vedanta.

I hve edited it rather than directly copy-paste all things coz some lines I found may hurt ppl or lead this thread to somewhere else.My motive for putting this here is only to convey the vedanta as principle not as religion.The original thing is in this link..http://www.hinduism.co.za/founder.htmI like this to read abt dwaita,adwaita etc things, so shared with you.
Thanks & regards,
Jay shree krishna,
Zarna

[Dev]

Mahesh

I agree that our philosophy has nothing to do with a person being more self-centric.
He is only asked to concentrate and not dissipate his energy but then he is told to help others by deeds or preaching or whatever.
Paropakarartham idam shareeram
Yes, many take long queueus in the temple and ask favors from Gods. But, noone comes to God's rescue but why does God need rescue, he is the protector. Also if a person says God does not exist we can never convince him but if he insults again the same, if he throws stones, we can try advicing but then he has to calm down on his own, no advice will help.
In other religions, there is no possibility of insulting because harsh action may be taken if they insult them.
Dev

[astroboy]

Good day to you P Mahesh Ji ,


I wrote

"Now as far as spirituality goes, Let me tell you this .....without a doubt , the best place in the world to practice spirituality is India . There is no two ways about it . Lucky are we , that we are born here ."

You wrote ,

by p.mahesh » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:28 pm
Yes, India was good for spirituality. But,

1) Why do you think such a country from which great philosophy had originated landed up in such a mess?
(present day) like serving self-interest, corruption, greediness etc. See our scams?

Sir , In my humble opinion , I feel its got to do with the Horoscope of India . What can you do when you have Rahu in the lagna , Guru in the 6th and Moon with Shani ???

Is it that people invented spirituality but do not practice or misunderstood it?

Same as above sir ,

Or is it that because of spirituality people became over-secured and lack of fear-complex?

God has never scared any one over several generations . Its the individual soul that has to realise that God is real and is present at all times . Temples are packed to capacity , people pour money on God. God is feared no doubt , But God is feared only because people think that he can take away wealth, health and happiness . People go to him only to gain , not to thank . That is what Rahu in the lagna of a nation can do .


is India a good place to live at present times?

Good for Spirituality , bad for a decent life .


Hindu philosophy is soft target for everyone including for political leaders. Is it that our philosophy of karma had made people too individualistic and self-centered that made lack of unity and soft target to everyone including our leaders nowdays ?

Sir, people who are extremist , fanatic , and sadistic, using religion for their own ends never last . History is strewn with garbage like Hitler, Saddam, Osama bin Laden , etc . Ever since Catholicism was brought to power, those in authority have sought to expand and control the church, often through the fanatical use of force. "Jesus is best known as a preacher of nonviolence. Yet Christians, in persecutions of other religions, in wars about religion, and in wars of conquest, have perhaps been more violent than members of any other religion. And now its time to pay . They are facing islam as a fanatical force . What goes around comes around. Hindu culture can be misused , But people who misuse it will have to pay a price .

Lastly, does it matter in which place/country one resides and practice spirituality? It is like, if someone discovers a bulb at some place, it is useful to everyone. Does the place of invention makes any difference?

Sir , Religion is all about discovery . India is steeped in tradition and has places which can redeem the soul . We have temples that can wipe away our bad karma , provided we approch them with a clean heart . India gives us the opportunity to perform remedial measures that cannot be performed any where else in the world . What more can I say about this land ?? . Having said that , Hinduism is a religion and a way of life that has slowly spread towards the west , Its a matter of time ....... and just like we have bulbs in every house across the world , the "Law of Karma " and "Dharma" will spread its light all over the world . We have not been discovered yet . Its just a matter of time .....................

Best regard's

[astroboy]

Thank You Mahesh Ji ,

First of all Shani is combust with Ravi , However Shani in the 3rd aspecting 9th is fantastic . That gives me a lot of hope . And to be honest , I am still waiting for that Vipareeta Raja Yoga to click . I feel it does some times . No matter how #$%^&$ up the situation is ....... we still manage to float along . Its simply amazing . Looking at some other countries , Its a sheer Miracle that we can float along . 1.4 Billion people , God alone should save us .

Best regard's

[Dev]

Hi Astroboy:
people who are extremist , fanatic , and sadistic, using religion for their own ends never last . History is strewn with garbage like Hitler, Saddam, Osama bin Laden , etc .

You talk of famous people who were bad but u can find many common people being extremist, fanatic, sadistic and even lunatic(with may be a mixture of all these). They do things like backstabbing, involve in underground dealings
and so on. Anyway they are the ones defining the kali yuga, exemplifying by their inherent natures.

Dev

[Zarna]

Devji,

Is it not that our philosophy makes a person more self-centric. It talks about a person’s goals, his aspirations, ultimately own enlightenment. It uses the words like swadharma etc.

This is good for individual personality development. But collectively, the system fails.

Also, this individuality does not permit a person to think outside the boundary of his ‘self’. This has other consequences on negative side like selfishness, greediness, and work only for my (or at most my people’s) self even at the cost of others….

Have you noticed one point many people of our country takes long quees near temples to ask favors from Gods. But, same God
is insulted by someone publicly, how many have at least a feel about that? Is it not self-centeredness? This does not happen with other religions.

Mahesh

Mahesh ji,
I would like to tell my own views abt those lines for swadharma,self-centredness,system fails etc.
First of all if we are talking about our philosophy based on sanatan dharma then there self-centric makes a different sense.In both the way to succeed you hve to be self-centered either materialistic or spiritual.Now if we go with vedanta system we hve two strong things which never going to fail a system.i.e.Varnashram (not by birth by karma)& vedic ashram system(brahmcharyashram,grihasthashram,vanprasthasram,sanyasram)The overall system failed coz we are not following this & nowadays we dont hve paths balanced between Dharma,Artha,Kam,Moksha.We are leading a materialistic life.There are examples from most developed countries,even after running too hard behind money,status etc some celebrities are impressed with this vedic knowledge & come to India for learning as they get inner most peace & happiness in tht. As soon as(perhaps at the end of kaliyuga)this stage come to almost all Jeeva,satyuga will start.Moreover I dont take Swadharma as religion,rather I take it as my duty,my dharma as a son/daughter,husband/wife,mother/father,sister/brother. human being,as an employee,as a citizen of a country..& so ons.Just imagine if we all try to follow tht way swadharma,most of the social,economical,..etc problems of village,city,state,country,world will be automatically solved...If this eternal vedic dharma is followed...which we call sanatan dharma..I know it seems like a day dream..Though it's my own opinion,I dont have any shastra's proof.
Sorry if i interrupted between talks & said something which is out of date,time or mind!!:)
Anyways I jst said coz the situation of our country is such tht sometimes feel very bad due to lack of own activity..
Regards
Jay shree krishna,
Zarna.

[lovacrs]

Mahesh ji,

Is it not that our philosophy makes a person more self-centric. It talks about a person’s goals, his aspirations, ultimately own enlightenment. It uses the words like swadharma etc

I think our philosophy is self centric but not selfish. For e.g if each person using the road is self-disciplined and adheres to road rules, the overall traffic scenario improves benefiting all. Other approach is to accept a scenario where those who are disciplined also try to discipline others. The first obviously is a superior option to aim for.

[Zarna]

Zarnaji,

No, it is not an interuption. You are welcome for expressing your points.

Your points are interesting....

One question.. what is paradharma which creates bhaya (fear)? is it interfering with others duty?

Thanks & Regards,
Mahesh

Namaskar Maheshji,
Thanks for appreciating that way.As a opposite word to Swadharma,the par-dharma is obviously the thing when you do something that is not your part of duty.Consciously or unconsciously that creates a fear either in a form of result or karma itself.It depends how awaken/conscious you are from inside.Again helping someone is a different a thing & taking credit of it or unconsciously/consciously asking for it's result or expecting the same is another topic to discover. This I will say keeping in mind all of as as a physical human being.But if you are once in consciousness of soul you only have swadhrama & paradharma in that case,para-dharma will be all you duty/ devotion toward supreme God/Paramatma.Though a very thick & mysterious layer between two is what needs higher spiritual practice to discover and then break.Please it's all my own views,It dont have any connection with books/literatures/shastras.It's all what my inner journey tells about.Rest is up to individual's thinking/perception. I think this inner journey,it's concept,knowledge,experience is different for different different person.So gave answer what it came naturally from inside & whatever I read till date & after reading what thoughts came in my mind & also from my day to day practice with it.That's it....
Regards,
Jay shree krishna,
Zarna

[nidi83]

Dear astroboy,

Do you think marriage is an impediment to spirituality?

Thanking you,
Nidi

[Zarna]

Zarnaji,

I have to understand your view on Paradharma and why it is fearful...

Thanks & Regards,
Mahesh

MaheshJi,
I will say in today's life we dont have par-dharma(other's duty),instead we only have Swadharma & Adharma.Let me try to explain the thing through a simple example of a father/son case.
Case1:Father have some disabilities to run the home(as it's father's duty to feed family & protect them)now in that case initially when a son takes responsibility,he will have a fear(psychological,generated from mind) to that coz it's for the first time thinking whether he will be proved in responsibility or not?But as father has problem,tht his dharma we cant consider as par-dharma instead it's swadharma itself as a son.And that fear I will say comes from physical thing which is Nashpray thing.But again in this pure case,son also does his dharma as son,he obeys his father & gives respect.
case2:In the same above case if son does resposibility but disobeys father,doesnt respect father as whole.It may be coz he seems himself doing better than his father.Here with initial fear,after doin karma a KU-bhav is created inside the sun.So he is performing good like a father but forget to be son.In this case we can consider that after sometime soon or later if a son is going to realize,he may save himself from doing adharma.
case:3:More in above case may be like,once if ku-bhav is created in deep inside it can take numerous swarupa of emotions like anger,hatred etc.He may take his duty as father as power to home.Instead serving his father he can through him out of house.A person can even murder his father for the property coz father has disability to go against.In this case his journey is from swadharma to par-dharma to Adharma & which is something even if u realize cant survive.
I will say whenever you do adharma(Paradharma for me is only my duty toward God as a soul),in deep inside a fear is generated(always)automatically.And that fear(generated by antaratma) is due to a feel deep inside of doing something wrong.Now it's a different thing whether you are able to look/feel at tht point of time or not.Coz we have much more layers above our Antaratma.That fear can take any swarupa like abhiman,irsha,ninda,nafarat,krodh..any emotion that is generated by mind(Mann) as we have our "I"against that pure fear.The "I"always survives using logic/emotions/ideas etc.So now until & unless u fulfill all your swadhrma,that I is never going to dissolve & due to what you are not able to succeed in paradharma(spirituality).So Now here I will only take Swadharma(self duty),adharma(for what vedic/religeous scriptures are there to guide) & paradharma as duty toward God/Parmatma/supreme soul.
Hope I have made my points clear.I do also have confusions some time in my own belief system of swadharma but it's only when two swadharma collides each other & you have a very thin hair line to deside & make decision which swadharma to give priority.The most problem with all of us is we lost "vivek budhhi".That's the only thing for which I dont have answers sometime.I used to follow Ramayana when it's a case of personal/family life other wise Geeta,mostly for professional life.& above all Justice base on absolute truth is what I follow most of the time.
I tried my best to explain my views due to some language problem I sometimes create a confusion...sorry if i did something like that.& at last ultimately it's all about your belief system & thought process where you need a checking.
Regards,
Jay shree krishna,
Zarna

[Dev]

Hi Nidhi:

I hope Astroboy wont mind, I have just answered the same question u have asked him in the thread under spirituality to Aseem. If interested, u may read that.

Dev

[nidi83]

Oh I missed that Dev. Will surely go back and read. I would also like to know Astroboy's view on this.

Thanking you,
Nidi

[Dev]

Nidi:

Yes, thanks. Definitely, there may be others who may give more elaborate answers for sure. Anyway I wrote since I wanted to quote an example from my own family and so I did that. Otherwise I dont consider myself worthy of advicing others on spirituality. I may express my views and it is left to them to take it or leave it.

Dev

[astroboy]

[astroboy]

by nidi83 » Fri Feb 04, 2011 9:21 am
Dear astroboy,
Do you think marriage is an impediment to spirituality?

Nidi ji , I have told you before , I have a soft corner for 83 borns so I shall try to be nice as possible to you .


I am a firm believer that for pure spirituality and renunciation, marriage is like a ball and chain . Let me get one point clear . I am not against marriage , Nor am I against people who flirt with Spirituality while being married . What I say is that for pure spirituality and any kind of renunciation marriage is definitely a impediment . You are not doing justice to your marriage , Nor are you doing justice to God . Its like keeping your legs in two boats at the end you end up getting your $%^&8 crushed .

Look at history . History is filled with stories of how women have started wars , evoked hate between men , and destroyed the Tapasya of many a rishi . For example , take the city of Troy . Helen the queen of Sparta and the wife of king Menelaus seduces the young prince of troy , Paris . Paris smitten with love and lust convinces Helen, to leave her husband Menelaus, and sail with him back to Troy. After Menelaus finds out that his wife was taken by the Trojans, he asks his brother Agamemnom to help him get her back. So they set off with 1,000 ships holding 50,000 Greeks to Troy. With the help of Achilles, the Greeks are able to fight the never before defeated Trojans. To cut the long story short , a hundred thousand soldiers lost their life just for the sake of one woman's insanity and seduction . Troy , such a great city and civilisation was destroyed for one womans sake . People lost a great land to their enemy because of one mans love and lust for a woman . He lost his kingdom because of his lust for 3 inches of land, tringular in shape on which nothing grows . Can you sense the stupidity and the sheer idiocy of Paris ??

Look at Rishi Vishwamitra and Menaka , Bhasmasura and Mohini . Rambha , urvashi and Menaka have given enough examples to show that women and Renunciation do not go hand in hand .


I quote a interesting fact from the Law of Karma 3 By Dr Robert Svoboda .

" There was a Sadhu who once cured a Marwari woman of Tuberculosis from the ash of his fire . The woman begged and pleaded with the Sadhu to visit her home in Mumbai . A year passed , after much pleading , the Sadhu decided to visit the lady . After a sumptuous lunch , the sadhu to return the favour of having eating at the womans house , told her husband , a cotton merchant to buy all the cotton in the market and thus corner the market . In a few days time , the merchant made millions on this tip from the Sadhu . The Merchant , happy with the Sadhu , begged of him to stay in his house . The sadhu was feed with the best food available , and provided with all the luxuaries a man would possibly want . In time the rich food and the pure ghee took its toll on the Sadhu , the food had a aphrodisiacal effect on the man , after all the sadhu got his powers after years of Tapasya and living on roots and shoots in the forest . the heavy food and the rich ghee got to his mind , he fell for the business man's wife and started banging her . The woman in turn found a new life and renewed lust because the sadhu unleashed years of bottled up lust . The sadhu was a better banger that the husband . Before long , the merchant got to know of these sessions , but could do nothing . The merchent by then , intoxicated with the money , was wanking off seeing bundles of notes , and had developed a crush on Gandhi who he touched every day .

When the banging started getting louder , the merchant could take no more of it . He was in a quandry , if he threw the Sadhu out , he would not get advice on the market condition , and thus would lose out on the money . One the other hand , his wife was spending day and night with the sadhu , right under the merchants nose . So the merchant got a brilliant idea , he got a good looking woman to the house and made her stay there . But our Sadhu had so much loving to give , he started banging both , some time at the same time . After all the sadhu hads lots in reserve and the sadhu was fit because he used to watch TV in the morning and do yogasanas watching Baba Ramdev .

One day the Sadhu came home late to find that his wife was not in bed . There was a huge din in the house . The merchant went up to the sadhu's bedroom to find the Sadhu blind folded and was playing nude catch me if you can with the two women . The sadhu invited the Merchant to join the fun , This was too much for the merchant , he lost his temper and asked the sadhu to get out . The sadhu lost his temper and cursed the merchant saying " You became a crorepathi because of me " now become a begger . Over night the merchant lost every thing . The sadhu took the two women with him and started the ( " Art of living on other people's money foundation " TM / Registered ) . The sadhu was back to 0 . All his sadhana went down the drain , and he became like just another person in Kali Yuga .

( The story is not true to the original , But largy true to the original . The language is a little colourful . Please excuse . )


More later ,

[kunalbhardwaj27]

by astroboy » Fri Feb 04, 2011 1:03 am
The woman in turn found a new life and renewed lust because the sadhu unleashed years of bottled up lust . The sadhu was a better banger that the husband . Before long , the merchant got to know of these sessions , but could do nothing . The merchent by then , intoxicated with the money , was wanking off seeing bundles of notes , and had developed a crush on Gandhi who he touched every day .