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Everyone can't laugh freely: I mean, those who make appointment with the dentist. :lol:
Abhijit Muhurta !!! wrote:Laughter's the best medicine !!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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rajubhai ka youtube link rakha bhai apun pahle..uske baadij ye aayaa..... Bhai log ke liye is cheej ka COPY karna RIGHT hai bhai ;) .... Exiting from thin street bhai.. ;)
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comming back to Shri Ramana Maharshi's horoscope , please note that the time of Birth ranges from 00.58 - 1.15 AM . P.V.R.N. ji , has taken the T.O.B. to be 1.00 AM , while David Frawley takes it to be 1.15 AM . The moot point is that L.M.T. was on in the late 18th century . Though most astrologers have taken the lagna to be in Virgo , when LMT. is used , I get Libra as the Lagna . I have run this on all softwares including Jyotish Studio, Parsahara light and SJS and arrived at Libra Lagna .

Therefore I suggest that for people using J Hora , you will find a LMT tab which needs to be activated . Use 1.10 as the birth time and ignore the navamsha because of the inaccuracy of the birth time . One thing is for sure , Libra lagna makes sense as I shall explain below .

As usual , All this is a post mortem , we can explain 100 things in 200 different ways , But look at the exchange between guru and Shani . Guru casts his aspect sitting from the 5th house to the 9th house .

The whole point is the role of Ketu here . Ketu is in 9th along with the moon within 4 degrees of each other in the Nakshatra of Guru . Lagna lord it's self is in Guru's nakshatra . Guru aspectsa lagna . Note , Guru is unafflicted and sits alone unhindered enabling him to do his best spiritually .

A out standing Saraswati Yoga (Produced by: Ascendant, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus (Mercury, Jupiter and Venus in kendra/angle or kona (5, 9) or in the 2 nd with Jupiter in friend's, own or exalted sign ( Guru becomes a great friend with Shani in the panchada friendship chart )
Will make the individual highly intelligent. He will be very competent in composing prose, drama, and poetry and will be learned in Alankar Shastra and Mathematics. He will be skilled in poetry, in narrative composition and in the exposition of sacred texts. His fame will spread over the three worlds. He will be fortunate and will be revered by the greatest of the kings.

Now let us take the moon lagna . Guru is in the 9th house . a excellent Dhramakarmadipathi yoga has sealed the deal for RamanaMaharshi. That he say literally nude and went into meditation was because of Ketu's influence on the moon . Not all people with Ketu Moon combinations go into deep meditation , but here the aspect of Guru on the Moon and Ketu from the 9th has made it possible . Note both are in Guru's nakshatra .

THis horoscope once again goes to show that Guru, Chandra , Ketu , 5th house and the 9th house can make people renounce the world .
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and last but not the least , how could we forget lord Shani :?: the aspect of the 4th and 5th lord on the 12th house is enough to drive a man to seek renunciation .
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suniti

Thank you for that astroboyji
i appreciate it.
it's interesting to see some of the things there :D
is it out of line of i ask you to do kurt cobains now? (im just kidding)
again thanks
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After reading thread first come to my mind...
As Ma Saraswati is considered godess of Knowledge, Intelligence, Oration and Art.
Students (Vidyarthi - People desirous of aquiring knowledge) worship her to help them in their quest.

Ya kundendutusharhardhawala ya shubhravastra vruta
ya veena varadandamanditkara ya shwetpadmasana |
Ya brahmachyutshankara prabhutibhi daive sada vandita
sa ma patu saraswati bhagawati nishesh jadya paha ||

Translation:
The godess who is as fair as the flower of kund (?), like moon and like a necklace of dew and wears bright white clothes.
Who holds a *veena, and is seated on a white lotus.
To whom gods like Brahma, Vishnu and Shankar always bow,
and who dispells all darkness from the mind without a trace,
such godess Saraswati, please protect me.
Regards,
JAy shree krishna
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Kurt Kobain
20 February 1967 at 19:20 (= 7:20 PM )
Place Aberdeen WA, USA, 46N58, 123N48
Timezone PST h8w (is standard time)
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suniti

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay :D :D
i beleive he was extremely spiritual
but would like to see
(tying up the threads here on suicide and all )

"come as you are, as you were, as i want you to be
as a friend as a friend as a known enemy""
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by suniti » Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:51 pm

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
i beleive he was extremely spiritual
:roll: :roll: :shock:
see in forest mummy duck is going to water pond for swimming means - daddy duck and baby ducks is going in the backside of mummy duck and jumping in water. Not looking this side not looking that side. Simply jumping.

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First things first , Shani + Shukra in the house of Cold Sexuality = Bisexual or Gay . All other factors being equal . Please note .



Cobain befriended a homosexual student at school, and suffered bullying from heterosexual students who concluded that Cobain was gay. In an interview he said that he liked having the identity of being gay because he didn't like people and when they thought he was gay they left him alone. Kurt stated, "I started being really proud of the fact that I was gay even though I wasn't". His friend tried to kiss him and Kurt backed away and told his friend he was not gay but would still be friends with him. In a 1993 interview with The Advocate, Cobain claimed that he was "gay in spirit" and "probably could be bisexual." He also stated that he used to spray paint "God Is Gay" on pickup trucks in the Aberdeen area. However, Aberdeen police records show that the phrase for which he was arrested was actually "Ain't got no how watchamacallit". One of his personal journals states, "I am not gay, although I wish I were, just to piss off homophobes

Now note the aspect of Guru on Shani and Shukra . All the Gay , Gone away .........or did it... :?:
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suniti

so he wasn't?
i know other people with shukra+shani who aren't
never mind
i see the "all other factors being equal now"
regards
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If you die you're completely happy and your soul somewhere lives on. I'm not afraid of dying. Total peace after death, becoming someone else is the best hope I've got.
Kurt Cobain


Note Cobain's chandra. Its in the Nakshatra of Ardra . The presiding diety is the storm god Rudra. Rudra is the fierce form of Shiva who also represents thunder. Issues with pain, death , agony , misery and suffering's are common themes. If the moon is placed in Ardra the individual is also born in the stormy seas of Rahu dasha.

Ardra means "moist one" and is depicted as a tear drop. these tears are tears of sorrow.People born in this nakshatra will shed many a tear's in their life time, and will have a unending obsession with death . please see a similar case of wanting to end their life http://lightonvedicastrology.com/phpBB3 ... tra#p38871

here Chandra is not aspected by any other planet and is completely dependent on the Nakshatra's significations . No wonder he killed himself at the age of 27 in the dasha of Shani (Maraka lord ) and the AD of the Moon (12th lord ) .


Here you have to understand the following ,

To whom you are born,
when you are born
where you are born

Drug use was rampant from the seventies in the USA . Guns are freely available in the USA , his parents were divorced , and he saw violence being inflicted on his mother on many a occasion. I have always being saying this , Ardra Nakshatra is a tough Nakshatra to be in . God save you if there is no other aspect on the Moon .
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suniti

yes. i have also seen people of ardra nakshatra,
so what your saying is that it was a lot of pain,
if born in a different time it couldve been different
that pain as far as i see was constructive musically
and also introspective
but theres no question then of tyaaga.
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Now as far as spirituality goes, Let me tell you this .....without a doubt , the best place in the world to practice spirituality is India . There is no two ways about it . Lucky are we , that we are born here . If we have the yogas for spirituality , but land up in Ibiza dont expect your task to be made easy . India can give you that extra push even though you have weak yogas for spirituality . Take my word for it . Another important point , Guru should never be retrograde , combust , debilitated, afflicted with other malefics , all other factors being equal . It give a wierd twist to a man spiritual path .

Now look at Kurts song ,

Jesus don't want me for a sunbeam. 'Cause sunbeams are not made like me.
Don't expect me to cry for all the reasons you had to die. Don't ever ask your
love of me.

Don't expect me to cry.
Don't expect me to lie.
Don't expect me to die for thee.



death was always center stage in his life :) .
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suniti

dear astroboyji
i see what you are saying about death
so another philosopher basically
and maybe if there was some other influence it couldve become tyaaga.
not just smashaana vairagya
also

booooooooooo i wasn't born in india :( :( :(
suniti

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What else should I be? All apologies
In the sun, in the sun I feel as one
In the sun, in the sun
Married, buried
all in all is all we are"
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I can do one better , I always think of the quartet , Shani , Kuja , Rahu , and Ketu when I listen to this track . they will make you do things that you would not do even in a state of Insanity, and they will put you in situations where even God will not be able to extract you .

The 4 playing a lullaby to the moon (On the lead vocals , and Rhythm guitar Lord Shani , On the lead guitar , Ketu , On the drums Kuja , on the Bass Rahu ) 8)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq2OXVuAvQw

Hey
I'm your life
I'm the one who takes you there
Hey
I'm your life
I'm the one who cares (sarcastic comment )
They
They betray ( The benefics :wink: )
we are your only true friends now
They
They'll betray
I'm forever there (Shani :wink: )

I'm your dream, make you real
I'm your eyes when you must steal
I'm your pain when you can't feel
Sad but true

I'm your dream, mind astray
I'm your eyes while you're away
I'm your pain while you repay
You know it's sad but true

You
You're my mask
You're my cover, my shelter
You
You're my mask
You're the one who's blamed
Do
Do my work
Do my dirty work, scapegoat
Do
Do my deeds
For you're the one who's shamed

I'm your dream, make you real
I'm your eyes when you must steal
I'm your pain when you can't feel
Sad but true

I'm your dream, mind astray
I'm your eyes while you're away
I'm your pain while you repay
You know it's sad but true

I'm your dream
I'm your eyes
I'm your pain
I'm your dream
I'm your eyes
I'm your pain
You know it's sad but true

Hate
I'm your hate
I'm your hate when you want love
Pay
Pay the price
Pay for nothing's fair

Hey
I'm your life
I'm the one who took you there
Hey
I'm your life
And I no longer care

I'm your dream, make you real
I'm your eyes when you must steal
I'm your pain when you can't feel
Sad but true

I'm your truth, telling lies
I'm your reasoned alibis
I'm inside, open your eyes
I'm you

Sad but true
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suniti

hey that was amazing imagery and true!
i think i need a margabandhu strotram + a bunch of navagraha pidahara stotrams after that (if kurt had it things may have been different)
thank you so much for sharing t


and for this and i cannot resist (i swear im not trying to turn this into guitar hero)


"exit light, enter night
take my hand.....off to never never land"
i'll add that on margabandhu stotram but say to Shambhu
"exit night enter light"

was thinking about the soul born in the west,
i guess as long as im in india now its ok
maybe thats what trent reznor is whining about


"Hey God why are you doing this to me?
Am i not living up to what i'm supposed to be?
Why am i seething with this animosity?
Hey God i think you owe me a great big apology

Hey God i really don't know what you mean.
Seems like salvation comes only in our dreams.
I feel my hatred grow all the more extreme.
Hey God can this world really be as sad as it seems
Terrible lie "
nine inch nails

More lyrics: http://www.lyricsfreak.com/n/nine+inch+nails/#share
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Amen saisreshtaji


"By all means marry, if you get a good wife, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher." :D
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saishreshta9 wrote:Dear enlightened souls-
We are supposed to embrace life as it comes, enjoy the happy moments, feel bad during the sad moments but be righteous all the time, finish our responsbilities with love, never forget GOD and go back to him when HE calls us. I personally dont believe there are any shortcuts to this. I am sorry to say this, but astroboy, I definitely do not think that marriage becomes an obstruction to spiritual path. I actually think marriage teaches a person about his or her responsbilities and without understanding and fulfilling the responsibilities, one can never really break free as you are not totally out of rinaaanubandhas. Let us not drag this pessimistic and negative thread. it is pulling us away from spirituality and as your well-wisher, I feel I can advise you this. Agreed that I may choose not to read this but I feel sad that youngsters like you with so much potential are looking at glass half-full. As you yourself said in one of your old threads, the nine planets are sort of guys to whom the job is outsourced by GOD. We need to understand what these guys are teaching us, learn it while praying to GOD to teach it to us in a soft manner and help others while we can (which you are doing in a great way). Sincere apologies if I hurt you.
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Namaskar saishreshta Ji,
Though very unknown to you but want to tell u something about this thread.No one here is running away from their duties.As you need to feed your body,mind,brain & heart,You also hve to feed your soul.Sometimes in life,whether you get wht you wish or not,you realize for a moment tht worldly things are no more of importance(Not coz you are not able to get it,dont want to work hard or cant struggle more so putting all weapons in front of god n say "survive" or you are pessimistic n negative!),you feel tht your inner most thing to which we call soul needs something else,something more to discover yet & is the only reason this thread is going on.
Look at my query when I asked Astroboyji for the same.He told me to concentrate on my son's upbringing & suggested not to leave sansara.This is only what I want to convey is, as simple as tht this is not a negative/pessimistic thread at all.Rest is up to individual's thinking.Being adhyatmik/spiritual can be another way to lead a very happy n peaceful life!
Sorry if I told anything tht I should not.
Jay shree krishna,
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Date of Birth 11/12/1931
Time of Birth 17:47:03
Place of Birth KUSHWARA
Latitude 023.09.N
Longitude 078.21.E



These are the Birth Details of Osho Rajneesh . Data derived from Shree S.P. Khullar's book "True Horoscopes " .


Note . Lagna will be Mithuna . But the lagna is in 0Deg9 which makes me wonder if this data is accurate . However Khullar ji has rectified the horoscope using the K.P. System , and I can assure you that he is a genius at it . So lets go with the same lagna .( Kushwara is in district Raisen in Madhya pradesh India .
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Deepakji, T.O.B is 17-13 and P.O.B is Gadarwara[M.P]. Five planets in 8H and only Mars is com bust. Karkamsh lagna is Meena. KL is aspected by all the planets except Jupiter and Sun. Regards
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The question that comes to my mind is this - Can Osho qualify to be in this thread where the topic is about renouncing. Osho gave a different meaning to renunciation. Osho’s understanding of ‘Sannyas’ is a radical departure from the traditional Eastern viewpoint.

"For Him it is not the material world that needs to be renounced but our past and the conditionings and belief systems that each generation imposes on the next".

Before we proceed on the analysis, one needs to be clear on Osho's definition of renunciation. His teachings were revolutionary. I read about the definition of Sanyasi in the earlier posts. He does not fit the same. What planets gave this twist? My two bits.

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Anuradha ji ,

You could be right . There is a huge arguement on what the correct time of Osho is . In My opinion S.P.Khullar Ji's opinion on the T.O.B. is too close for comfort . He is basically into K.P. astrology and might have rectified the time as per K.P. . Let us take the time You have mentioned and analyse the horoscope .

Best regard's
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